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Migration to Australia
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May 28 2020, 07:56 AM
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May 30 2020, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(thedarktraveller @ May 29 2020, 11:58 PM) Maybe once this post kena UP from our comments Depends on your profession, to be honest. Australia is also in a midst of a economic downturn.Btw does anyone know of one's chances of getting a job in Australia once having their PR application approved? There are essentially 2 groups of migrants - broadly speaking. The first are those awash with funds and are looking to migrate from a position of strength, on their terms, when they feel is best for themselves. A job is secondary. They are looking for things that their country of origin cannot provide: perhaps it's the weather, a different pace of life, the education system for their kids, the lifestyle. This group are immune to the economic cycles affecting their chosen country of arrival. As long as a visa is obtained, they'll go regardless whether there's a job waiting for them or not. The second group are those that the "/ktard know-it-all-although-they've-never-done-it-themselves" expert would call the Bangla migrant. Those who are going there to compete with the host country's population for what these keyboard warrior so-called experts term a shrinking economic pie. You'll see many such comments whenever a question arises about migrating/moving to Singapore (why would you want to work there? You'll end up like sardines in the MRT and living in pigeon coops, and you'll be a Bangla), or Australia (why would you want to move there? It's so racist and you'll face hurdles getting a job because you don't look Angmo, and you'll end up a Bangla). The only common themes are: (1) these self-proclaimed experts have never done it before themselves - and it's often anecdotes heard from a friend of a friend's neighbour's daughter's tuition teacher, and (2) this weird fascination about Banglas. Anyway, if you belong to this second group of economic migrants, then, it stands to reason that you do your sums more carefully before you pull the trigger. Compare what you're making and the cost of living, as well as your career progression and your financial returns in your home country, and then contrast that with the expected parameters in your target country. To do that, there are websites that list the median salaries of occupations in Australia (google's your best friend) - but bear in mind this: (a) it may not be possible to get a job that equates your last position (b) different cities have different cost of living (and you can find out more about that with Numbeo, from the web) and ( c) the taxes are going to be different and will need to be factored in. Good luck! This post has been edited by hksgmy: May 30 2020, 07:51 AM jojolicia liked this post
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Oct 19 2020, 09:20 AM
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Oct 19 2020, 03:43 PM
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Oct 20 2020, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Oct 20 2020, 10:42 AM) I have a business in Australia - it's a medical practice, which is shared between me and my Uni classmate. We employ about 8 doctors in total, so it counts towards providing jobs locally, and I pay taxes on all my properties in Sydney & Melbourne. I also have substantial cultural ties - my family members are there. |
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Oct 20 2020, 08:18 PM
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Feb 27 2024, 05:57 AM
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This is a blast from the past ... and I'm glad, nearly 4 years since my last answer, my RRV is still generously being renewed yearly... at least I feel my taxes paid to ATO are working for me haha.
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Mar 5 2024, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Feb 27 2024, 08:40 AM) Australia a lot of homelessness issue due to soaring rent True bro, house prices are back on an upward trend again. I’m lucky we got in decades ago…house price median 1.6m in sydney. Migration is for the super rich. A couple of my dato and datin friends already migrated there. Some just send their children there to study n bought a home there but still stay here to run their biz. Not for the newly weds. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/...ns-report-finds |
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Mar 5 2024, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Feb 27 2024, 08:40 AM) Australia a lot of homelessness issue due to soaring rent I looked through one of my answers in this very same thread, and I'm surprised how relevant it still sounds, even after the passage of 4 or 5 years...house price median 1.6m in sydney. Migration is for the super rich. A couple of my dato and datin friends already migrated there. Some just send their children there to study n bought a home there but still stay here to run their biz. Not for the newly weds. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/...ns-report-finds QUOTE Depends on your profession, to be honest. Australia is also in a midst of a economic downturn. There are essentially 2 groups of migrants - broadly speaking. The first are those awash with funds and are looking to migrate from a position of strength, on their terms, when they feel is best for themselves. A job is secondary. They are looking for things that their country of origin cannot provide: perhaps it's the weather, a different pace of life, the education system for their kids, the lifestyle. This group are immune to the economic cycles affecting their chosen country of arrival. As long as a visa is obtained, they'll go regardless whether there's a job waiting for them or not. The second group are those that the "/ktard know-it-all-although-they've-never-done-it-themselves" expert would call the Bangla migrant. Those who are going there to compete with the host country's population for what these keyboard warrior so-called experts term a shrinking economic pie. You'll see many such comments whenever a question arises about migrating/moving to Singapore (why would you want to work there? You'll end up like sardines in the MRT and living in pigeon coops, and you'll be a Bangla), or Australia (why would you want to move there? It's so racist and you'll face hurdles getting a job because you don't look Angmo, and you'll end up a Bangla). The only common themes are: (1) these self-proclaimed experts have never done it before themselves - and it's often anecdotes heard from a friend of a friend's neighbour's daughter's tuition teacher, and (2) this weird fascination about Banglas. Anyway, if you belong to this second group of economic migrants, then, it stands to reason that you do your sums more carefully before you pull the trigger. Compare what you're making and the cost of living, as well as your career progression and your financial returns in your home country, and then contrast that with the expected parameters in your target country. To do that, there are websites that list the median salaries of occupations in Australia (google's your best friend) - but bear in mind this: (a) it may not be possible to get a job that equates your last position (b) different cities have different cost of living (and you can find out more about that with Numbeo, from the web) and ( c) the taxes are going to be different and will need to be factored in. Good luck! |
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Mar 6 2024, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 5 2024, 01:07 PM) I don't think they going to come down anytime soon, because: Heh. As I mentioned earlier, there are 2 groups of migrants. Increasingly, Australia and other countries like Singapore are looking for migrants who are able to contribute financially.1) The rich migrants are propping up the price 2) Not enough construction of new housing 3) Even want to do (2), many housing developers in Australia, faced bankruptcy after MCO. 4) Big 5 cities super saturated, no place 5) Australia too reliant on Service, banking, mining, education and farming. 6) Australia may be big country, but 2/3 is desert, still the 1/3 is the size of Ukraine. 7) Australia match migrant to skilled jobs needed, fail. 8) Not enough political view n steps to bring down price. 9) Not enough investments in term of building of factories, new businesses to Australia. |
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Mar 6 2024, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Mar 6 2024, 08:18 AM) Actually, the answer isn't as simple as a "yes" or "no".Yes, in the sense that fledging industries were easier to establish earlier and "first mover advantage" can be consolidated. No, in the sense that there are now more millionaires and multi-millionaires in Singapore, Malaysia, Australia etc than ever before Yes, in the sense that inflation & housing are now a lot more unaffordable than in the past No, in the sense that there's a lot of new wealth creation from industries that didn't exist in the past So, I think ultimately, it's a case of being in the right place & with the right skillset for the right time frame that matters more. That's my humble 2 cents worth. gashout liked this post
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Mar 6 2024, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 6 2024, 06:09 PM) Australia is looking for workers who can fill their professional force that ordinary Australians gone upstream due to the mining boom prosperity. Perhaps, but that's not stopped dreamers from dreaming about migrating there.Singapore is looking for workers to fuel their expansion. The thing about Australia is, no matter how many skilled workers they want to accept for migration, they can never build upstream their industries. For example, Australia is Nikei, Iron, ALuminium ore rich. But why they could not build upstream, is something I can't fathom. Thus Australia, is now attracting migrants that are skilled and migrants that are super rich that come in to buy properties, not invest in factories or business to fuel expansion. Meanwhile, the doers have done it. |
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Mar 10 2024, 05:09 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 7 2024, 08:43 AM) true true doers have done it. For migrants like me, who come here to enjoy life post retirement and not fight with the locals or other migrants for the economic pie, it doesn’t really matter so much. But the way Australia govt is running nowadays with lack of political will, they r destroying the dream. For over 30-40 years they failed to diversity their economy. Rich in iron and nikel ore, they failed to upstream their industries and today they pay the price, because 70% of these exports rely on China which is now in downturn due to the property crisis. Australia has so much potential to get out of the big 5 cities. However, for someone hoping to earn a decent wage and uplift his standard of living, then to be honest, Singapore is a better place to do it than Australia. |
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Mar 10 2024, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 10 2024, 09:16 AM) So Australia is only attracting something like a MM2H package. No, I mean I treat Australia as a second home for me to enjoy and relax. Others may obviously feel differently.Lots of my rich friends, bought townhouses, bungalows and condos there for purpose of "investment" and just as second home to send their kids to study there. |
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Mar 10 2024, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 10 2024, 07:40 PM) I think there are a lot more people like you who is well enough to buy second home for retirement. They are still super keen on doctors and nurses…What I am trying to say is that Australia is no longer the place for new migrant families that want to rely on their moderate skillsets and lack of funding to migrate. It still is, but much less than before, its going to get worse anyways. Australia is the dream for those who have $$$ to build a new future. Unless you have trmendously good skillsets that the country values. |
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Mar 11 2024, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 10 2024, 09:18 PM) Actually any country with an ageing population will want the same. Malaysia on the other hand has too many doctors….Maybe some of these doctors can come to Australia. But they’ll have to retake their AMC exams because medical schools from Indonesia, Ukraine or Russia and Egypt or India are not mutually recognised. kcal liked this post
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Mar 11 2024, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(kcal @ Mar 11 2024, 08:27 AM) Their training is not recognized as equivalent |
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Mar 11 2024, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 11 2024, 02:00 PM) I’m not surprised. As I have said it before and I’ll say it again: it takes a certain mentality to be successful - regardless of where a person finds himself. If that particular person has the correct mentality, the appropriate skills and qualifications and ambition, and to be honest, with a sprinkle of good fortune (eg a sympathetic superior or an understanding boss), he will succeed regardless of whether he’s stuck in Malaysia, moved to Singapore or is now residing in Australia. The degree of success may differ, ie the amount of money will be different for sure, but it will still be classified as success. Those dropouts will be dropouts when they return to Malaysia and end up likely selling MCs and cough syrups. |
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Mar 12 2024, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 12 2024, 10:25 AM) I heard that new doctors must be stationed at those isolated towns, is it true? Yes. 10 year moratorium. Cannot practice in city for 10 years after registration. Also a doctor friend of mine could not take the late night rotation at the emergency wards. Your doctor friend, sorry to say, is damn pandan. If night shift at casualty in Australia also cannot take, how the hell will he survive 96 hour shifts in Malaysia? |
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Mar 12 2024, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 12 2024, 11:48 AM) is a she. Ah, that makes sense. It also means that her training in Malaysia may not be recognized as equivalent so she’s slotted to do the shit shift again in AustraliaI think because she did her dues in Msia already, doesn't want to suffer another "housemanship" again. |
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