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Garysydney
post Apr 13 2018, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 13 2018, 07:35 AM)
Remember that education wise, new reforms held by senate don't give PRs access to the same level of government support as citizens.

Also trust me education and pressure is better in Malaysia. Half of the cunts I work with can't even spell for shit. You guys have one language.....

SA's primary industries are defense (which you have no access to as a non-citizen due to NS1 vetting) and mining. If you don't have mining experience you're in for a world of hurt.
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Aust is a socialist country driven heavily on welfare mentality. Govt taxes corporations (30% company tax) and individuals heavily to help finance welfare recipients. This means that high-income earners pay a significant part of their pay in taxes so actually discourages workers to work harder.

Due to Aust being socialist, working in a heavily-unionised workforce is more rewarding and work like that is usually govt-related (public service in federal or state govt, local councils and universities). However, before getting into such positions, you normally need to be Aust citizens and not PRs with job applications very competitive and hard to get shortlisted esp if you are a new migrant. Conditions in these organisations are usually very attractive as they have been hard-fought for by their unions (which is very strong in these organisations). With job security hardly existing now, jobs with these organisations are highly-valued and treasured.

Aust is slowly left behind by more capitalist countries like US and UK where there is not such a strong emphasis on welfare and it would be interesting to see where Aust will be in 10 years time.
Garysydney
post Apr 13 2018, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 13 2018, 09:12 AM)
lol this year alone based on my last payslip I've paid 99654 dollars of income taxes. Probably by the time the financial year is done I'll be at the 130 mark. And that's with an ATO variation in place for a lower rate.

It is definitely painful.
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Wow! Your gross must be a few hundred thousand.
Garysydney
post Apr 13 2018, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(rg470 @ Apr 13 2018, 02:17 PM)
Grossing between $250k to $500k in O&G and you're good at it is pretty normal here.
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Wow - I didn't realise the wages are so high. You are talking A$, aren't you?
Garysydney
post Apr 13 2018, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(rg470 @ Apr 13 2018, 04:57 PM)
Yes of course. Usually with that kinda income stream, you'll have to have some sort of trust fund to reduce your taxable income.
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I didn't realise that O&G occupation were so high - it will probably be in the top 1% income earners.

I think trust funds is not as effective as they used to be. Nowadays there isn't as much tax shelters as before - probably only negative gearing and borrow like crazy.
Garysydney
post Apr 16 2018, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Apr 15 2018, 05:56 PM)
'You've got to get out from your comfort zone': how one family adjusted to a new life in Australia
BY SUE LANNIN
UPDATED SUN 1 APR 2018, 9:40 AM AEST
VIDEO 1:03 Tendean Kesuma decided to move his family to Australia for a new start.

Imagine relocating your life from the country you've always known to somewhere very different with a 7-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son.

The Kesuma family did just that.

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I live very near to a church in Sydney and after Sunday morning mass, there are so many Indonesian Christians outside the church chatting with each other and i have always wondered why there are so many more Indonesians in Sydney compared to Msians. I only found the answer after goggle-ing and reading about the 1998 race riots. I have been very ignorant about the history of Indonesia all the while.

Garysydney
post Apr 17 2018, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(nicregi @ Apr 17 2018, 11:32 AM)
O&G there is massive. My cousins are there and they are doing very well because the demand in the country.

Of course, competition is another. Just my 2 cents!
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Never heard much about O&G salaries - only heard about the mining jobs pay were like A$250-300k/yr in WA about 7-8 years ago which contributed to a huge property boom in Perth then but in the last 3-4 years that mining boom has faded off.
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post Apr 28 2018, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 27 2018, 01:00 PM)
Iianm, they don't blacklist you unless you have made a false declaration in the past....

That is why if your realise your eoi is incorrect and they invite you, it best to let the invite lapse and resubmit the eoi, than attempt to claim points without proof....

But this is common sense lah....

Didn't know got NZ backdoor....kiwi pr no right to stay in Oz....
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I know of a few ex-Malaysian who have taken up Kiwi citizenship more than 20 years ago and are now living and working in Aust while still using Kiwi citizenship. There was a bilateral Agreement which allows Aust and Kiwi to work in either country. I don't know whether that Agreement is still around. In Bondi, there were a lot of Kiwis there before but a lot of them have returned to NZ probably because it is easier to get a job in NZ nowadays. We get a lot of Torres Straits Islanders in Sydney who gets into trouble stealing cars and 'break and enter' and they are deported back to NZ. Nowadays if we see Torres Straits Islanders, we avoid them as they are commiting all kinds of crime and are people best to avoid. They look a bit like Aboriginals and usually huge in size with plenty of tatoos on their bodies.
Garysydney
post Apr 29 2018, 05:55 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 28 2018, 05:18 PM)
Oh, yes, kiwis including those who naturalised, can have right of abode in Oz....but will still need to apply for a pr if they want to be eligible for welfare benefits....a special 189 (NZ) visa....

But it means you will need to naturalise into a kiwi....which often means losing your Msian citizenship....
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In the 80/90s, Aust was a lot easier to land a job (with better promotion propects) so a lot of Msians in NZ took up NZ citizenship just so that they can work in Aust. However, I don't think there are many Msians in Aust who would take up citizenship just to work in NZ. Most Kiwis end up in Sydney because we are the nearest port to NZ.
On the subject on naturalisation, I notice that couples with children (from people i know in Sydney) would be more likely to take up Aust citizenship because they feel that their children is their future and they want to be closer to their kids when they get old and is highly unlikely to return to Msia to live.

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Garysydney
post Apr 30 2018, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 30 2018, 01:21 PM)
Kiwi prs have no right of abode in Oz ever, but can of course use other visa to live and work.... usually the now defunct (as of this month) 457....
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I know a bunch of ex-Chung Ling students who graduated from UNSW working in NZ in 1984 with NZ prs. We students who came in that era had to leave the country (Aust) for 2 years before we can apply for Aussie pr as there was an agreement between Aust and Msia to prevent the brain drain from Msia. Most of them applied for Aust pr after 2 years working in NZ (Auckland) and all were granted Aust pr. Some came back to Aust while a few others didn't want to come back as they were already in good positions. In those days, there were not many Uni graduates and you can easily land yourself a job with a Uni degree not like today where everyone seems to be a graduate.
Garysydney
post May 1 2018, 04:44 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 30 2018, 02:30 PM)
Australia's immigration rules keeps on changing...so what you do and what eventually happens depends on your era....

In the 70s and 80s, it was easy to stay on....then the rule changed from mid 80s...and people had to leave....but it was still relatively simple and easy to apply for pr....

By end of the millineum migration because a "business" and an active policy to take in "high quality immigrants" that brings in much money was in official place....the numbers just vary depending on the political climate....

I have relatives and friends who migrated in all the eras....the vast majority are happy with their decision....although some had it tough initially....

I don't know of any that failed and return....but I know one who gave up the pr without going at all...
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Among my group from Syd Uni, there was only one who failed and went back to KL. He was a mechanical enginner from Ipoh who was retrenched in 1992 (there was a mild recession in 1991-1993 in Aust). He had a wife and a young baby and he couldn't land himself another engineering job after being retrenched. I remembered vividly he was so down having to sell all his furniture and household stuff in Fairfield when he had to go back. He did quite well in KL after that helping his brother who was in the process of listing his construction company. Now that friend is a Datuk and lives in MK so sometimes if you can't make it in Aust, it may just be the start of something good.
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post May 4 2018, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 4 2018, 12:23 AM)
msian passports have no surname designation (double chevron), so technically the whole name is the surname...

demonic removed his "bin", and that works....indians can similarly remove the a/l a/p....

chinese can use Ah Kow Tan instead of Tan Ah Kow...the Tan will then correctly be the surname....or just add another first name eg David/Ken/Joy whatever...

married women can adopt the husband's surname as is usual in oz....
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Hey Limeuu, i must take my hat off to you. You are full of ideas!! And also very generous to share it around.
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Garysydney
post Oct 28 2018, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(FollowMeRogerThat @ Oct 26 2018, 02:39 PM)
Tumpang tered TS.

Anyone manage to get RRV without fulfilling the 2 years requirement?

I have only a year in out of the five and my PR is expiring soon.

Not too sure if can try to apply for RRV. If anyone has any personal experience in this matter, please drop me a PM or quote me here if you don't mind.

Mucha thanks.
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The Immigration Office will calculate how many days you have stayed (in Aust) in the 5 years - they know exactly when you would have come in and left (as everything is online). They will then determine how many days you are short and will give you a RRV for the balance that you are short (of the 2 years). They are unlikely to give you a multiple-entry RRV as they want you to stay the period you are short. The cost of the visa will be the same as a 5-year RRV so if you are give a single-entry RRV for 1 year, the cost of that RRV will be the same as for a 5-year RRV.
Garysydney
post Nov 7 2018, 04:12 AM

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QUOTE(rg470 @ Nov 6 2018, 04:32 PM)
There is currently a long wait for applicant who do not meet the RRV requirements. I got a fren who tried to apply RRV onshore, waited for almost 5 months before being approved for 1 year. Stuck there for 5 months sweat.gif

However, if you meet the requirements, the approval is almost instantaneous.
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I guess how the Immigration treats those who have not fulfilled the '2-year stay' condition will keep changing as they will become more common due to the number of migrants coming into Aust.

My advice was given based on my knowledge when my brother (who migrated as a business migrant) applied for his RRV without having stayed the 2-year term about 10-15 years ago. Nowadays the process may be very different as there will be a lot of people with this 'under-stay' problem.
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post Nov 13 2018, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(FollowMeRogerThat @ Nov 12 2018, 04:52 PM)
Thanks for the great info.

These info are actually pretty critical for people like me that have not fulfilled the requirement.

Your reply is almost as good as if not better than what I'd expect off a migration agent.  thumbup.gif
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Don't forget the fee for renewal is quite expensive (from memory it was A$370 when i last renewed last year). Expect this fee to keep increasing as this is a good source of income for the govt.

 

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