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hoonanoo
post Feb 27 2024, 08:40 AM

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Australia a lot of homelessness issue due to soaring rent

house price median 1.6m in sydney.

Migration is for the super rich. A couple of my dato and datin friends already migrated there. Some just send their children there to study n bought a home there but still stay here to run their biz.

Not for the newly weds.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/...ns-report-finds

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hoonanoo
post Mar 5 2024, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 5 2024, 06:55 AM)
I looked through one of my answers in this very same thread, and I'm surprised how relevant it still sounds, even after the passage of 4 or 5 years...
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Perhaps in the early 2000s, it was feasible to migrate.

But not anymore.

Its an issue of supply vs demand. You see, everyone wants to migrate there.

So no need to do the maths, I expect cost of living all to rise, because people are all competing for rent and purchase of property in the big 5 cities in Australia.

Australian govt also failed to diversity their economy out of the 5 major cities. So, no matter how much aeriable land Australia has does not make any difference, because the big 5 cities are already saturated.


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post Mar 5 2024, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 5 2024, 01:05 AM)
True bro, house prices are back on an upward trend again. I’m lucky we got in decades ago…
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I don't think they going to come down anytime soon, because:

1) The rich migrants are propping up the price
2) Not enough construction of new housing
3) Even want to do (2), many housing developers in Australia, faced bankruptcy after MCO.
4) Big 5 cities super saturated, no place
5) Australia too reliant on Service, banking, mining, education and farming.
6) Australia may be big country, but 2/3 is desert, still the 1/3 is the size of Ukraine.
7) Australia match migrant to skilled jobs needed, fail.
8) Not enough political view n steps to bring down price.
9) Not enough investments in term of building of factories, new businesses to Australia.
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post Mar 6 2024, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 6 2024, 07:24 AM)
Heh. As I mentioned earlier, there are 2 groups of migrants. Increasingly, Australia and other countries like Singapore are looking for migrants who are able to contribute financially.
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Australia is looking for workers who can fill their professional force that ordinary Australians gone upstream due to the mining boom prosperity.

Singapore is looking for workers to fuel their expansion.

The thing about Australia is, no matter how many skilled workers they want to accept for migration, they can never build upstream their industries. For example, Australia is Nikei, Iron, ALuminium ore rich. But why they could not build upstream, is something I can't fathom.

Thus Australia, is now attracting migrants that are skilled and migrants that are super rich that come in to buy properties, not invest in factories or business to fuel expansion.
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post Mar 7 2024, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 6 2024, 06:17 PM)
Perhaps, but that's not stopped dreamers from dreaming about migrating there.

Meanwhile, the doers have done it.
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true true doers have done it.

But the way Australia govt is running nowadays with lack of political will, they r destroying the dream.

For over 30-40 years they failed to diversity their economy. Rich in iron and nikel ore, they failed to upstream their industries and today they pay the price, because 70% of these exports rely on China which is now in downturn due to the property crisis.

Australia has so much potential to get out of the big 5 cities.


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post Mar 10 2024, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 10 2024, 05:09 AM)
For migrants like me, who come here to enjoy life post retirement and not fight with the locals or other migrants for the economic pie, it doesn’t really matter so much.

However, for someone hoping to earn a decent wage and uplift his standard of living, then to be honest, Singapore is a better place to do it than Australia.
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So Australia is only attracting something like a MM2H package.

Lots of my rich friends, bought townhouses, bungalows and condos there for purpose of "investment" and just as second home to send their kids to study there.


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post Mar 10 2024, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 10 2024, 09:29 AM)
No, I mean I treat Australia as a second home for me to enjoy and relax. Others may obviously feel differently.
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I think there are a lot more people like you who is well enough to buy second home for retirement.

What I am trying to say is that Australia is no longer the place for new migrant families that want to rely on their moderate skillsets and lack of funding to migrate. It still is, but much less than before, its going to get worse anyways.

Australia is the dream for those who have $$$ to build a new future. Unless you have trmendously good skillsets that the country values.

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post Mar 10 2024, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 10 2024, 08:55 PM)
They are still super keen on doctors and nurses…
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of course they are

any rich country will want to draw the best doctors to treat their citizens.


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post Mar 11 2024, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 11 2024, 04:58 AM)
Actually any country with an ageing population will want the same. Malaysia on the other hand has too many doctors….

Maybe some of these doctors can come to Australia. But they’ll have to retake their AMC exams because medical schools from Indonesia, Ukraine or Russia and Egypt or India are not mutually recognised.
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I know a couple of migrant doctors dropped out of Aust
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post Mar 12 2024, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 11 2024, 06:22 PM)
I’m not surprised. As I have said it before and I’ll say it again: it takes a certain mentality to be successful - regardless of where a person finds himself.

If that particular person has the correct mentality, the appropriate skills and qualifications and ambition, and to be honest, with a sprinkle of good fortune (eg a sympathetic superior or an understanding boss), he will succeed regardless of whether he’s stuck in Malaysia, moved to Singapore or is now residing in Australia. The degree of success may differ, ie the amount of money will be different for sure, but it will still be classified as success.

Those dropouts will be dropouts when they return to Malaysia and end up likely selling MCs and cough syrups.
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I heard that new doctors must be stationed at those isolated towns, is it true?

Also a doctor friend of mine could not take the late night rotation at the emergency wards.
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post Mar 12 2024, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 12 2024, 11:16 AM)
Yes. 10 year moratorium. Cannot practice in city for 10 years after registration.

Your doctor friend, sorry to say, is damn pandan. If night shift at casualty in Australia also cannot take, how the hell will he survive 96 hour shifts in Malaysia?
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is a she.

I think because she did her dues in Msia already, doesn't want to suffer another "housemanship" again.


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post Mar 12 2024, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 12 2024, 12:26 PM)
Ah, that makes sense. It also means that her training in Malaysia may not be recognized as equivalent so she’s slotted to do the shit shift again in Australia
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not sure.

but she was a GP in msia.

she and her husband married but no children.

I don't see why she can't slog it out since she just have work to concern with.
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post Mar 13 2024, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Mar 13 2024, 10:04 AM)
work long hours, no maid, junior salary, expensive housing...

better off be T5 in Malaysia
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T5 msians already got holiday home in australia lah.

they run their businesses here but their kids are studying in Aust
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post Mar 13 2024, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 12 2024, 07:02 PM)
Hmmm. That’s strange. Usually, most Malaysian GPs will take a conjoint exam with the RACGP and if they pass, they should be fully registrable as a GP in Australia.

I don’t know the specifics of your friend’s case so I can’t comment further.
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really?

I no idea, but that was 10 years ago. During time, Msian GP recognised ?


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post Mar 13 2024, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Mar 13 2024, 11:30 AM)
lol...

thanks for the fake story....
earlier says she and her husband married but no children
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what fake story?

I am talking about my other rich friend that own businesses here.

the doctor friend is defintely not T5. Doctors r T5???

u got fake story man
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post Mar 13 2024, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 13 2024, 11:35 AM)
But but… you also said:
Apa macam?
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doctor friend married with no kids = M40

friend that I told you last time, remember? that own house in australia and have business here = T5.

apa macam u talking?
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post Mar 13 2024, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 13 2024, 04:57 PM)
Aiyo. You confused me mah bro. One minute talking about GP friend next second you refer to your business friend hahaha. Ok. Misunderstanding resolved.
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i disagree to virolution dude that better off being T5 in Msia.

So I gave my rich friend T5 example that they no need to struggle in Aust.

mana tau he claim I am talking about my doctor friend. I be honest with you, you think GPs are T5 in Msia? This virolution gets his facts wrong lah.

I have many friends that migrated to Australia lah, some came back.

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post Mar 13 2024, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 13 2024, 05:08 PM)
Dunno answer to the GP T5 question bro, since I’m not a GP and I’m not practicing in Malaysia. But I can’t imagine that she’d be “poor” in Malaysia. Maybe not Tan Sri corrupt rich but confirm comfortable ba
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GPs won't qualify for T5 in Msia, that is for sure.


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post Mar 14 2024, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 13 2024, 06:51 PM)
Actually not true. I have a classmate who went back to Penang and now owns rows and rows of shophouses and at least 3 plots of land on Pearl Hill.

He’s a GP.
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GP that cari kerja with employer won't earn a lot of money

like those who open Mediviron, Klinik Kita, etc...these are the rich ones.
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post Mar 14 2024, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Mar 14 2024, 08:46 AM)
Married female doctor + husband cannot achieve get household income of RM20k?

most family nowadays get above RM10k house hold income. Thus consider T20 already....

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U talking about T5

whoah, I didn't know I am so rich, that makes me a T20

but everyday I struggling to pay the sky high expenses

My friend is a T5, he has range rovers, mercedes, ferrari, several houses, properties, high class condos in msia, spore, australia, canada.

RM20k won't be able to pay for this.

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