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post Mar 7 2018, 04:32 PM, updated 6y ago

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post Mar 7 2018, 04:33 PM

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post Mar 7 2018, 05:00 PM

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hahaha... this must be one of those "legend says..." shit... XD
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.. i believe it's a very convincing good-read, backed by good facts haha

on a side note, with keywords, 'long-lasting lubricant' for google, they lead you to 'safer sex'. use 'long lasting plastic-safe silicone pfpe ptfe lubricant' to start lube research biggrin.gif

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post Mar 7 2018, 06:30 PM

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sunyi sepi ... [This club like silent hill]

Must revive this club! ranting.gif
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shhhh, all happy with their mkb so nothing happens here..
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post Mar 7 2018, 06:50 PM

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enlighten me, what kibod is this?
doesnt look kastam.
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post Mar 7 2018, 08:44 PM

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enlighten me, what kibod is this?
doesnt look kastam.
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PLUM 75 RGB Wireless (Capacitance 35g)

This board is during last November. It's very hard for me to source this board to Malaysia.
Because RGB Wireless model actually no longer produced by PLUM. So, it's rare limited, but, PLUM no announce it out.
Reason actually due to high costing, and niche market. They continue produce the RGB with wired.

Because it's no longer produced, most store don't actually able to sell it because no more in the market.
I have to find the PLUM representative, and tarik cable.
PLUM rep introduced me his close friend store that still keep 1 unit that still in the factory. Only 1 unit in the China at that time. dry.gif

It's an amazing keyboard. rclxm9.gif

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post Mar 8 2018, 03:34 AM

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we still have many submarines here at lyn lol!

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PLUM 84 RGB Wireless (Capacitance 35g)

This board is during last November. It's very hard for me to source this board to Malaysia.
Because RGB Wireless model actually no longer produced by PLUM. So, it's rare limited, but, PLUM no announce it out.
Reason actually due to high costing, and niche market. They continue produce the RGB with wired.

Because it's no longer produced, most store don't actually able to sell it because no more in the market.
I have to find the PLUM representative, and tarik cable.
PLUM rep introduced me his close friend store that still keep 1 unit that still in the factory. Only 1 unit in the China at that time.  dry.gif

It's an amazing keyboard.  rclxm9.gif
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as always, appreciate your continuous efforts to bring in good stuff to local users smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 7 2018, 08:44 PM)
PLUM 84 RGB Wireless (Capacitance 35g)

This board is during last November. It's very hard for me to source this board to Malaysia.
Because RGB Wireless model actually no longer produced by PLUM. So, it's rare limited, but, PLUM no announce it out.
Reason actually due to high costing, and niche market. They continue produce the RGB with wired.

Because it's no longer produced, most store don't actually able to sell it because no more in the market.
I have to find the PLUM representative, and tarik cable.
PLUM rep introduced me his close friend store that still keep 1 unit that still in the factory. Only 1 unit in the China at that time.  dry.gif

It's an amazing keyboard.  rclxm9.gif
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how does it types compare to the THOCK-THOCKs btw? hmm.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 8 2018, 10:16 AM)
how does it types compare to the THOCK-THOCKs btw?  hmm.gif
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thock wins for typing feel.

But, if layout matters, then 84 will have their own advantages. rclxm9.gif

If we promote the same keyboard, everyone having same thing. The community will be dull. laugh.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 12:30 PM

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post Mar 8 2018, 03:03 PM

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bought the keyboard together with the 9 color keycaps from china but not really like the combination.
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so change my varmilo stock white keycaps to this.. and really love the color. I know leopord keyboard has this color layout too.
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about tai-hao keycaps, anyone has any experience with this brand keycap? my comment of these abs double shot keycaps is feel really cheap and thin, plus there are marks on top side from manufacturing process.
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for this keyboard I find that I prefer it without LED on...

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post Mar 8 2018, 03:06 PM

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really sunyi dah, very very satisfied with the tecware phantom that i got nothing else to complain XD
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post Mar 8 2018, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 8 2018, 03:03 PM)
bought the keyboard together with the 9 color keycaps from china but not really like the combination.
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so change my varmilo stock white keycaps to this.. and really love the color. I know leopord keyboard has this color layout too.
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about tai-hao keycaps, anyone has any experience with this brand keycap? my comment of these abs double shot keycaps is feel really cheap and thin, plus there are marks on top side from manufacturing process.
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for this keyboard I find that I prefer it without LED on...
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Tai Hao.. Taiwan brand keycaps, which they put alot of efforts in copy colorway of other supreme brand keycaps colorway.

Quality wise, is just thin paper quality. However, they provide good color for your keyboard.
Not too bad, just similar to stock quality. smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 8 2018, 03:03 PM)
bought the keyboard together with the 9 color keycaps from china but not really like the combination.
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so change my varmilo stock white keycaps to this.. and really love the color. I know leopord keyboard has this color layout too.
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about tai-hao keycaps, anyone has any experience with this brand keycap? my comment of these abs double shot keycaps is feel really cheap and thin, plus there are marks on top side from manufacturing process.
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for this keyboard I find that I prefer it without LED on...
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nice-looking smile.gif stock caps for varmilo's base va87m are not attractive.

tai-hao's caps are relatively thin. the marks from manufacturing process are common. their coloways look nice, however their caps can be much better.

QUOTE(Senpai onegai @ Mar 8 2018, 03:06 PM)
really sunyi dah, very very satisfied with the tecware phantom that i got nothing else to complain XD
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good for you haha

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 8 2018, 03:26 PM)
nice-looking smile.gif stock caps for varmilo's base va87m are not attractive.

tai-hao's caps are relatively thin. the marks from manufacturing process are common. their coloways look nice, however their caps can be much better.
good for you haha
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despite using it everyday, ive had it for 4-5 months now, lets see how it holds up.
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post Mar 8 2018, 03:29 PM

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SP SA Carbon Round 1 on my Novatouch.

Currently funding for some lube vials (for the sliders) and BKE Redux light domes. and probably some silencing rings.
Not keen on buying Norbauer's aluminum body casing for an EOL product because if it dies, most likely no replacement laugh.gif

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 8 2018, 03:29 PM)
SP SA Carbon Round 1 on my Novatouch.

Currently funding for some lube vials (for the sliders) and BKE Redux light domes. and probably some silencing rings.
Not keen on buying Norbauer's aluminum body casing for an EOL product because if it dies, most likely no replacement laugh.gif
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They look soooo good. How much did you have to fork out for the SA keycaps?
I'm wondering if there's any KB Enthusiasts living in Kota Kinabalu... Really wanted to feel dem SA keycaps before buying a set.

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Planning to buy this MaxKeys for my Pok3r from KBDfans. I'm wondering if they will ship it to Malaysia or not though. USD99.00.....God Bless Me

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anyone know where to get switches beside taobao?
thinking to start my first ergoclear project. mxclear cost quite a bit. its about RM200 for 70 switches inclusive of shipping. so wonder if i can source it cheaper.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 8 2018, 05:01 PM)
anyone know where to get switches beside taobao?
thinking to start my first ergoclear project. mxclear cost quite a bit. its about RM200 for 70 switches inclusive of shipping. so wonder if i can source it cheaper.
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ergo clear best drool.gif
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QUOTE(locksng12 @ Mar 8 2018, 04:44 PM)
They look soooo good. How much did you have to fork out for the SA keycaps?
I'm wondering if there's any KB Enthusiasts living in Kota Kinabalu... Really wanted to feel dem SA keycaps before buying a set.

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Planning to buy this MaxKeys for my Pok3r from KBDfans. I'm wondering if they will ship it to Malaysia or not though. USD99.00.....God Bless Me
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I paid Rm900 for TKL kit + Novelty keys, bought them off from a fellow forumer here. Yes it is expensive, but the asking price for these used SP SA keycaps these days are higher than that laugh.gif This is because these keycaps are typically purchased via group buys with more than 1 year of waiting time laugh.gif

i think u can get maxkeys cheaper thru taobao. just make sure that u are not too OCD with the fonts alignment. Shif t , back space laugh.gif
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about tai-hao keycaps, anyone has any experience with this brand keycap? my comment of these abs double shot keycaps is feel really cheap and thin, plus there are marks on top side from manufacturing process.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 8 2018, 03:10 PM)
Tai Hao.. Taiwan brand keycaps, which they put alot of efforts in copy colorway of other supreme brand keycaps colorway.

Quality wise, is just thin paper quality. However, they provide good color for your keyboard.
Not too bad, just similar to stock quality.  smile.gif
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agree on this.

been using it for quite awhile on my DK2108 mxblues. i like the click sound from thin abs compare to PBT.
but im not much expose to high quality/thick keycaps so not much comparison i can make.

but coz of the vast colourway, u have cheap option to make ur kibod nicer. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(locksng12 @ Mar 8 2018, 04:44 PM)
Planning to buy this MaxKeys for my Pok3r from KBDfans. I'm wondering if they will ship it to Malaysia or not though. USD99.00.....God Bless Me
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They do ship to MY. I had already bought a few items from them. No issues what so ever. Another place is kprepublic.
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post Mar 8 2018, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Senpai onegai @ Mar 8 2018, 03:29 PM)
despite using it everyday, ive had it for 4-5 months now, lets see how it holds up.
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hehe nice smile.gif

when you're ready, try to use its switch hot-swapping feature to test other outemu switch types. get to know more about different switches, and you might be able to find the ones that suit you more beside the current one.

QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 8 2018, 03:29 PM)
SP SA Carbon Round 1 on my Novatouch.

Currently funding for some lube vials (for the sliders) and BKE Redux light domes. and probably some silencing rings.
Not keen on buying Norbauer's aluminum body casing for an EOL product because if it dies, most likely no replacement laugh.gif
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this is a a nice-looking novatouch hehe maybe i will start with lubing sliders on mine first
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post Mar 9 2018, 08:03 AM

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thats hot, what keyboard is that
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post Mar 9 2018, 09:34 AM

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thats hot, what keyboard is that
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Cooler Master MasterKeys MK750 RGB
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post Mar 9 2018, 09:39 AM

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Cooler Master MasterKeys MK750 RGB
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:07 AM

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Very nice poison rclxms.gif
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ho ho ho nice man! so this is how a sa profile looks on a gk64. is this profile good for typing? it's the tallest profile that i know of




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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 9 2018, 11:56 AM)
ho ho ho nice man! so this is how a sa profile looks on a gk64. is this profile good for typing? it's the tallest profile that i know of
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Needed some adjustments to the different profile. I still think Cherry profile is the best for typing experience but maybe it's just me. This is definitely for the looks and sound. hehehe... #shallow tongue.gif
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Needed some adjustments to the different profile. I still think Cherry profile is the best for typing experience but maybe it's just me. This is definitely for the looks and sound. hehehe... #shallow tongue.gif
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thanks a lot for this. almost everyone is telling me the same thing lol well, they're still good as collections. (very nice-looking tbh)

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 9 2018, 01:36 PM)
thanks a lot for this. almost everyone is telling me the same thing lol well, they're still good as collections. (very nice-looking tbh)

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that vb87m?
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that vb87m?
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no, it's a va87m with cherry mx silent red.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 10 2018, 11:13 AM)
no, it's a va87m with cherry mx silent red.
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Lol. After rejoining this club. So much toxic.
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Lol. After rejoining this club. So much toxic.
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even though i have built up strong immunity over time, certain poisons are not meant to resist so i just embrace them lol


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 9 2018, 01:36 PM)
thanks a lot for this. almost everyone is telling me the same thing lol well, they're still good as collections. (very nice-looking tbh)

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This color way I seen before. It's the 10 years anniversary topre realforce for China model. Nice color
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This color way I seen before. It's the 10 years anniversary topre realforce for China model. Nice color
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lol you got it, and it's in reversed order, https://www.storeuni.com/collections/mechan...ce-104-pro-10th

one of the things that i like about varmilo boards is their collection of pbt key cap sets. (good quality with adequate thickness; step-sculpture 2 profile; low-profile plain colors) there is one more thing in the details: for each of their limited editions, varmilo actually make changes here and there, so that key caps on these limited editions are unique. you cannot get the same set unless you get that particular limited edition.




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Yo guys. I saw this keycaps for sale in shopee and I am wondering why is it so cheap? Do you think it's a scam or could it be that the quality is atrocious? They do look good though. icon_question.gif
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Yo guys. I saw this keycaps for sale in shopee and I am wondering why is it so cheap? Do you think it's a scam or could it be that the quality is atrocious? They do look good though.  icon_question.gif
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usually the price is related to printing/labeling technologies, profiles, thickness, and materials used for making caps. e.g. basic ideas of common printing methods can be found here, http://www.keysourcechina.com/seven-techno...p-printing.html

by the look of its legends, it's likely laser-printing type. (looks blurry to me)

usually i just pick:
1. printing types - dye sublimation or double-shot (nicer and sharper legends);
2. profiles - cherry, step-sculpture 2; oem sometimes;
3. thick pbt (about 1.3mm or more).


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Would it be possible to put cherry mx into outemus? Thinking of changing the switch in my tecware
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 10 2018, 05:42 PM)
usually the price is related to printing/labeling technologies, profiles, thickness, and materials used for making caps. e.g. basic ideas of common printing methods can be found here, http://www.keysourcechina.com/seven-techno...p-printing.html

by the look of its legends, it's likely laser-printing type. (looks blurry to me)

usually i just pick:
1. printing types - dye sublimation or double-shot (nicer and sharper legends);
2. profiles - cherry, step-sculpture 2; oem sometimes;
3. thick pbt (about 1.3mm or more).
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Good priority factor you have there mate. I'll make sure to keep that in mind.

Btw, is there anyway to get this RGB software into my Poker? I know it's a longshot question but who knows there might be an electronic wizard out there.
I could buy an Anne Pro and swapped the switches and plastic case to an aluminium one but that is a very expensive method just to get that light effect. cry.gif


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Is there any better deal than RM449?

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Anyone used this before? Any comment?
Ducky One - PBT Dye-Sub Non Backlit - Black Case Frame - Blue & Grey Keycaps (Red Switch) DKON1508-RUSPHZAB1
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http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/page-en/Duc...ne-non-backlit/

Is there any better deal than RM449?
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i never use, but i heard of problems with the keycaps.
but its the kikap, i cant comment on the kibod.

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Anyone used this before? Any comment?
Ducky One - PBT Dye-Sub Non Backlit - Black Case Frame - Blue & Grey Keycaps (Red Switch) DKON1508-RUSPHZAB1
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Is there any better deal than RM449?
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Malaysia still got this ? EOL long time ah..
Ducky One all same, Taiwan made with good PCB.
This model keycaps really have many problems, because previous in Malaysia have many users have this model, at the end claim the warranty.

The keycaps font is like painted not dye-sub etch. So, font will fading or dispersed. If you get it just for the PBT, then it's not worth.

What's your requirement for keyboard?
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CM Masterkeys L + EnjoyPBT

It's way over my expectation for a board at RM300+

Stock keycaps are really nice despite it has pad-printed legends.
But I just prefer Cherry Profile. rclxms.gif

After using blue switches for around 2-3 days. I'm starting to like it but hate the clicky noise.
Really should make an Ergoclear board for myself.


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Is there any better deal than RM449?
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I refund the ducky one 2 skyline and make a complain to ducky Taiwan.. They apologise and send me replacement keycap for the longer key like shift enter and space.
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I refund the ducky one 2 skyline and make a complain to ducky Taiwan.. They apologise and send me replacement keycap for the longer key like shift enter and space.
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What was the issue with the Ducky one 2 skyline as I am interested in getting the keyboard.

Or is there any other brand that the sifu here can recommend as this is my first time getting a mechanical keyboard with around RM300 - 400 budget.
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QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 12 2018, 07:09 PM)
What was the issue with the Ducky one 2 skyline as I am interested in getting the keyboard.

Or is there any other brand that the sifu here can recommend as this is my first time getting a mechanical keyboard with around RM300 - 400 budget.
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Many brands, since Ducky not the only 1 reputable. You can get Cooler Master, Filco, Vortex, iKBC.
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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 12 2018, 06:57 PM)
I refund the ducky one 2 skyline and make a complain to ducky Taiwan.. They apologise and send me replacement keycap for the longer key like shift enter and space.
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You refund from local Malaysia Ducky and complain to Ducky Taiwan ? What is the issue?
Warped long keys?


On side note, just accidentally splashed water to my mechanical keyboard, few keys sot.. Need wait it dry..lol
Using another mkb.
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You refund from local Malaysia Ducky and complain to Ducky Taiwan ? What is the issue?
Warped long keys?
On side note, just accidentally splashed water to my mechanical keyboard, few keys sot.. Need wait it dry..lol
Using another mkb.
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I spilled water on my Ducky One TKL RGB before. Unplugged it right away and let it dry. Was damn tension.
I sold the board anyway. hope it's still working fine somewhere.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 13 2018, 10:10 AM)
I spilled water on my Ducky One TKL RGB before. Unplugged it right away and let it dry. Was damn tension.
I sold the board anyway. hope it's still working fine somewhere.
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lol.. You so bad.. But, it will be fine if just normal water.. If you shoot something sticky on it, then better don't sell, later UV out those things, ppl will viral you.

I just unplug and plug other boards.. Later I try again, whether the keyboard self recover.. laugh.gif
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This is the problem I have with ducky one 2. At the end i got varmilo va87m and very happy with it.

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This is the problem I have with ducky one 2. At the end i got varmilo va87m and very happy with it.
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This is the keycaps problem.. Well, the left and right of long keys too tight, so, each side will dominance and shift to the side you press it on.
If you want solve this, just put a bit of tissue in it. It will balance it out.

The new Ducky keycaps is still is the trial and error products, from Hardcap. Hope they can improve it.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 13 2018, 02:08 PM)
This is the keycaps problem.. Well, the left and right of long keys too tight, so, each side will dominance and shift to the side you press it on.
If you want solve this, just put a bit of tissue in it. It will balance it out.

The new Ducky keycaps is still is the trial and error products, from Hardcap. Hope they can improve it.
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it was the same issue last time when i bought the CM Pro S.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 13 2018, 03:07 PM)
it was the same issue last time when i bought the CM Pro S.
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Yeah.. Even last time certain Filco have that. That's why many ppl come here and look for solutions. laugh.gif

I dunno why back then we looking for solution, instead of using our consumer power. confused.gif

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Is there any better deal than RM449?
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I still have this board. Board is typical Ducky One. Not bad but not amazing either. Some creaks here and there. Spacebar rattles when pressed making it really annoying.

The main issue is the keycap printing especially the light blue ones. The dye sub quality is not good as the ink bleeds. A bit of and eyesore really but I don't really care. Thinkness is good. Quite thick.

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QUOTE(artificialRAGE @ Mar 13 2018, 05:17 PM)
I still have this board. Board is typical Ducky One. Not bad but not amazing either. Some creaks here and there. Spacebar rattles when pressed making it really annoying.

The main issue is the keycap printing especially the light blue ones. The dye sub quality is not good as the ink bleeds. A bit of and eyesore really but I don't really care. Thinkness is good. Quite thick.
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Ink bleed is not dye-sub. laugh.gif
Heard they just printed it. Not to bash it, but I think they release too many models in a year. QC for boards still fine, just the keycaps, many models screwed us up.
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Would it be possible to put cherry mx into outemus? Thinking of changing the switch in my tecware
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it has been done by a guy at mymkb fb page. in short it should be good to go. you should read about his findings also.

QUOTE(locksng12 @ Mar 11 2018, 08:20 PM)
Good priority factor you have there mate. I'll make sure to keep that in mind.

Btw, is there anyway to get this RGB software into my Poker? I know it's a longshot question but who knows there might be an electronic wizard out there.
I could buy an Anne Pro and swapped the switches and plastic case to an aluminium one but that is a very expensive method just to get that light effect.  cry.gif


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maybe you should check out the similar led profile for pok3r first (maybe there is one) firmware replacement like this one might be possible, but it might not be an easy one. (i'm noob so i guess it's not that easy hehe)

QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 12 2018, 07:09 PM)
What was the issue with the Ducky one 2 skyline as I am interested in getting the keyboard.

Or is there any other brand that the sifu here can recommend as this is my first time getting a mechanical keyboard with around RM300 - 400 budget.
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budget is heallthy, so go for Cooler Master, Filco, Vortex, and iKBC. what's your preferred form factor? you might find something that you want at storeuni.com

QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 13 2018, 10:10 AM)
I spilled water on my Ducky One TKL RGB before. Unplugged it right away and let it dry. Was damn tension.
I sold the board anyway. hope it's still working fine somewhere.
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.. if it's plain water, it should be ok after it's dried up. it might take weeks to dry up if you don't disassemble the board.

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This is the problem I have with ducky one 2. At the end i got varmilo va87m and very happy with it.
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i believe it's warped large keys. i think i need to find time check this key cap set also.

varmilo is at a different level compared to ducky.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 13 2018, 07:55 PM)
i believe it's warped large keys. i think i need to find time check this key cap set also.

varmilo is at a different level compared to ducky.
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that kinda held me off of getting the Horizon set (made by Hardcap) and they're a little thin at 1.2mm.
maybe i should go for Varmilo first, too bad there's no more options for mixed colours on their Taobao store. Only the plain ones.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 13 2018, 07:55 PM)
i believe it's warped large keys. i think i need to find time check this key cap set also.

varmilo is at a different level compared to ducky.
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Hard to say, but, new manufacturer always like trial and error.
Now you see ducky mixed with those big god brands for ducky new models.
Their models now too fast already, I bet local distri will not last long if continue like that. No new things, just repetitively same stuff with different color.

QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 13 2018, 08:08 PM)
that kinda held me off of getting the Horizon set (made by Hardcap) and they're a little thin at 1.2mm.
maybe i should go for Varmilo first, too bad there's no more options for mixed colours on their Taobao store. Only the plain ones.
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Just wait Hardcap improve only can buy. I like stopped selling local Ducky after the MIYA sakura. Too much issue for both of seller and distri..
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 13 2018, 08:08 PM)
that kinda held me off of getting the Horizon set (made by Hardcap) and they're a little thin at 1.2mm.
maybe i should go for Varmilo first, too bad there's no more options for mixed colours on their Taobao store. Only the plain ones.
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hardcap is like tai-hao in some ways.

for prebuilts, varmilo is one of the finest. their caps are also decent. yes they are plain, but to me they are nicer than hardcap's. you can make do mix and match with those plain colors.
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edit: of course there are plenty of other options.

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Just another community sales for those really want to get a CM Wrist Rest at RM 25. For today only.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 13 2018, 10:00 PM)
hardcap is like tai-hao in some ways.

for prebuilts, varmilo is one of the finest. their caps are also decent. yes they are plain, but to me they are nicer than hardcap's. you can make do mix and match with those plain colors.
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hmm. looks like they stopped selling VB87M.
enough spending for the month. i'm broke.

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hmm. looks like they stopped selling VB87M.
enough spending for the month. i'm broke.

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like a wise man said, just take it slow for this hobby.

sometimes getting too many stuff at once is a problem too, especially when you do switch testing. i still have bags of switches and key cap sets untouched until today.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 14 2018, 04:58 PM)
like a wise man said, just take it slow for this hobby.

sometimes getting too many stuff at once is a problem too, especially when you do switch testing. i still have bags of switches and key cap sets untouched until today.
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have anyone tried ergoclears?
I wonder which spring should i go for.
ppl have been recommending 62g as it's the go-to weight for ergoclears
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have anyone tried ergoclears?
I wonder which spring should i go for.
ppl have been recommending 62g as it's the go-to weight for ergoclears
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No i haven’t tried ergoclears yet. It will take some time to make such switches afaik. About spring weights, i have read that the better option should be 65g to counter the ‘sticky’ slider issue perfectly. Also, lubing of switches is a must. I just did a very brief study on ergoclears only, so i might get things mixed up.

I’m not that into tactile switches yet. So far i’m still playing with my favorite switch type, linear. There are still some that I haven’t tried before.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 13 2018, 09:57 PM)
Hard to say, but, new manufacturer always like trial and error.
Now you see ducky mixed with those big god brands for ducky new models.
Their models now too fast already, I bet local distri will not last long if continue like that. No new things, just repetitively same stuff with different color.

Just wait Hardcap improve only can buy. I like stopped selling local Ducky after the MIYA sakura. Too much issue for both of seller and distri..
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Oh ok; hopefully they can improve more after this.

Yeah ducky released a lot of stuff recently, many of them are through collabs. I agree that if the trend continues, there is no innovation from them. For colors, it’s not actually an attraction, even if they are key cap sets. (I just realized that hardcap copied many colorways from big brands too; quite lazy lol)

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sometimes you just don't understand why they do this.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 14 2018, 10:28 PM)
No i haven’t tried ergoclears yet. It will take some time to make such switches afaik. About spring weights, i have read that the better option should be 65g to counter the ‘sticky’ slider issue perfectly. Also, lubing of switches is a must. I just did a very brief study on ergoclears only, so i might get things mixed up.

I’m not that into tactile switches yet. So far i’m still playing with my favorite switch type, linear. There are still some that I haven’t tried before.
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Tried a red board for a few months. Keys are too light for me. Get accidental presses while resting fingers on the keys.
Plan to try Gateron or Cherry Black switches instead down the road.

Some said using springs from Blue/Brown/Red. I wonder what weight does these spring has.
As for lubes, do I need to get better lube? I've been using some generic lube (marketed as off taobao. working fine so far but should i invest more?
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 15 2018, 01:42 PM)
Tried a red board for a few months. Keys are too light for me. Get accidental presses while resting fingers on the keys.
Plan to try Gateron or Cherry Black switches instead down the road.

Some said using springs from Blue/Brown/Red. I wonder what weight does these spring has.
As for lubes, do I need to get better lube? I've been using some generic lube (marketed as  off taobao. working fine so far but should i invest more?
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black is better for you. (perhaps gateron yellow also) personally, in terms of linear switches, kailh box red/black is the nicest. they're pre-lubed; followed by lubed gateron red/yellow/black (affordable yet offers better smoothness compared to cherry mx switches at stock state); then finally lubed cherry mx red/black (and their silent versions)

for ergoclear, it's better to try different springs out by yourself. for weights of common cherry mx switches (actuation force), you can just look them up at https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:Cherry_MX

for lubes, imo it depends. if you can get better lubes, seriously by all means get them. i believe there are solid reasons why sifus recommend them. to me, it depends on builds. if you wanna do a permanent build with soldered switches, you should get better industrial-grade lubes because they should last longer, and re-applications might be troublesome and time-consuming. i just settle with cheap lubes like Super Lube (note that they are industrial grade also), because i can get it locally, and secondly, i use CIY boards, so re-application is very much quicker.

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oh. they're sincere. as manufacturer, this is a good attitude tbh

edit: somehow, i still feel skeptical about their space bar and modifier implementations. it's not easy to tame these large keys. only very few manufacturers can do it almost perfectly.

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Good service.. Ship from Taiwan not cheap.. notworthy.gif
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The thing is I refund my ducky ad.. Feel a little bit guilty haha

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The thing is I refund my ducky ad.. Feel a little bit guilty haha
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Refund locally? Keep the keycaps for collection.
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shhhh... you're not supposed to say that out. hehe... biggrin.gif
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The thing is I refund my ducky ad.. Feel a little bit guilty haha
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to make you feel better, let's say they should do a better qa/qc at factory next time, to prevent such customer disappointments lol

although the last-mile qc should be done by sellers before sending out goods, but it's a chicken-and-egg scenario, especially when customers wanna have the first-hand unboxing thrills. it's hard to please everyone smile.gif

(for certain items, like pcbs, i usually ask sellers to help test them out first before shipping out to me, e.g. using tweezers + http://www.keyboardtester.com/ i really don't like doa)
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Refund locally? Keep the keycaps for collection.
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Yea I send it back to local shop.

QUOTE(antaras @ Mar 15 2018, 03:07 PM)
shhhh... you're not supposed to say that out. hehe... biggrin.gif
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Too late lol..

At least they apologise sincerely.. Which is a good thing..
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 03:10 PM)
to make you feel better, let's say they should do a better qa/qc at factory next time, to prevent such customer disappointments lol

although the last-mile qc should be done by sellers before sending out goods, but it's a chicken-and-egg scenario, especially when customers wanna have the first-hand unboxing thrills. it's hard to please everyone smile.gif

(for certain items, like pcbs, i usually ask sellers to help test them out first before shipping out to me, e.g. using tweezers + http://www.keyboardtester.com/ i really don't like doa)
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If I buy from online seller that located far far away I will ask the seller to test first.. Since I get this from local shop plus ducky is quite a reputable brand, didn't think too much when I bought it...
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 13 2018, 07:52 PM)
budget is heallthy, so go for Cooler Master, Filco, Vortex, and iKBC. what's your preferred form factor? you might find something that you want at storeuni.com
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Looking for a full size form factor.
Currently eyeing MasterKeys L PBT and Ducky One 2 Skyline with blue switches
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QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 15 2018, 03:38 PM)
Looking for a full size form factor.
Currently eyeing MasterKeys L PBT and Ducky One 2 Skyline with blue switches
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Skip the skyline . The problem with their keycaps QC.

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Skip the skyline . The problem with their keycaps QC.

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Yea that why I was worried when @watermineral mention it.
So might stick to Cooler Master
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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 15 2018, 03:38 PM)
If I buy from online seller that located far far away I will ask the seller to test first.. Since I get this from local shop plus ducky is quite a reputable brand, didn't think too much when I bought it...
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well never mind. it's better to always do checks when possible. even though ducky is a reputable brand, shits do happen. this applies to all brands of anything that are mass-produced.

QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 15 2018, 03:38 PM)
Looking for a full size form factor.
Currently eyeing MasterKeys L PBT and Ducky One 2 Skyline with blue switches
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imo cm is the better option. in terms of warranty, it offers 2-year one-to-one exchange.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 04:09 PM)
well never mind. it's better to always do checks when possible. even though ducky is a reputable brand, shits do happen. this applies to all brands of anything that are mass-produced.
imo cm is the better option. in terms of warranty, it offers 2-year one-to-one exchange.
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Yes, 2 years 1-to-1 exchange without repair. Just give u another new board.
But, some ppl will tends to abuse. But I don't care, as long as it makes sense. laugh.gif
For keyboard, either is brand abuse the warranty period to make consumer feel cheated, or consumer make brand feel cheated only. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 04:09 PM)
imo cm is the better option. in terms of warranty, it offers 2-year one-to-one exchange.
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oh 2 years, nice will go ahead with that option then. thanks smile.gif

QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 15 2018, 04:44 PM)
Yes, 2 years 1-to-1 exchange without repair. Just give u another new board.
But, some ppl will tends to abuse. But I don't care, as long as it makes sense.  laugh.gif
For keyboard, either is brand abuse the warranty period to make consumer feel cheated, or consumer make brand feel cheated only.  rclxm9.gif
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When will Store Uni restock for MasterKeys L PBT for brown switch?

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QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 15 2018, 04:50 PM)
oh 2 years, nice will go ahead with that option then. thanks smile.gif
When will Store Uni restock for MasterKeys L PBT for brown switch?
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Malaysia don't have Brown switch for S and L. Not really about restock or don't restock since it never will have it.
And for the S and L Blue/Red, it's only 10 units during last time CM bring in.

That's why ppl disappoint, then go for red switch.

On side note, MK750 RGB Brown switch has the extra 20 units. I'm wondering if they shift it to MK750.. mega_shok.gif
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Malaysia don't have Brown switch for S and L. Not really about restock or don't restock since it never will have it.
And for the S and L Blue/Red, it's only 10 units during last time CM bring in.

That's why ppl disappoint, then go for red switch.

On side note, MK750 RGB Brown switch has the extra 20 units. I'm wondering if they shift it to MK750..  mega_shok.gif
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Sigh... this is kinda sad as i kinda like the feel of brown switch and MK750 the price is way out of my budget. So will probably try out red switch before making my mind. Thanks cry.gif
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 15 2018, 04:44 PM)
Yes, 2 years 1-to-1 exchange without repair. Just give u another new board.
But, some ppl will tends to abuse. But I don't care, as long as it makes sense.  laugh.gif
For keyboard, either is brand abuse the warranty period to make consumer feel cheated, or consumer make brand feel cheated only.  rclxm9.gif
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.. abuse is always a bad thing to both sides. i really hope this doesn't happen often. to me, sellers/distri just need to back their end of the deal, and share with us alternatives when we are not aware of options, if possible.

as for the longer warranty period, it's a good sign to show that a brand is ready to back their products. it doesn't mean that consumers should take advantage of it.

QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 15 2018, 04:50 PM)
oh 2 years, nice will go ahead with that option then. thanks smile.gif
When will Store Uni restock for MasterKeys L PBT for brown switch?
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hopefully you will enjoy it. (i thought you're looking for blue) don't worry about after-sale supports, and as one of his customers i think he's doing it right
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.. abuse is always a bad thing to both sides. i really hope this doesn't happen often. to me, sellers/distri just need to back their end of the deal, and share with us alternatives when we are not aware of options, if possible.

as for the longer warranty period, it's a good sign to show that a brand is ready to back their products. it doesn't mean that consumers should take advantage of it.
hopefully you will enjoy it. (i thought you're looking for blue) don't worry about after-sale supports, and as one of his customers i think he's doing it right
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The reason why warranty period is longer, because brand pressure the manufacturer. Warranty like switches will bear by Cherry etc.
It's true, if your switch so "lan" geng, then you provide better warranty to prove you are right. rclxms.gif
If 1 board warranty because of 1 switch, definitely Cherry pay for the fraction of the board cost.

So, because certain brand that "guarantee" their product is good, we buy it. But, the manufacturer "guarantee" their QC and production is good, then brand use them, and supply chain and so on.

This just extra knowledge how thing works in mkb business and other businesses.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 15 2018, 08:40 PM)
The reason why warranty period is longer, because brand pressure the manufacturer. Warranty like switches will bear by Cherry etc.
It's true, if your switch so "lan" geng, then you provide better warranty to prove you are right.  rclxms.gif
If 1 board warranty because of 1 switch, definitely Cherry pay for the fraction of the board cost.

So, because certain brand that "guarantee" their product is good, we buy it. But, the manufacturer "guarantee" their QC and production is good, then brand use them, and supply chain and so on.

This just extra knowledge how thing works in mkb business and other businesses.
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haha yes i think manufacturers should back their products with appropriate warranty offers. like samsung, they're the first one who offered 10-year warranty for one of their performance ssds, then others followed. only a few are actually capable of doing that.

well, as long as they don't cut corners and build things accordingly, things can be very good for everyone in the chain. shits do happen but still if everyone is doing their part, i really think issues can be dealt with fairly effectively.

this is not the same as custom mkbs, where warranty of each part is actually quite limited. (but luckily everything is kind of repairable or replaceable)
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 09:19 PM)
haha yes i think manufacturers should back their products with appropriate warranty offers. like samsung, they're the first one who offered 10-year warranty for one of their performance ssds, then others followed. only a few are actually capable of doing that.

well, as long as they don't cut corners and build things accordingly, things can be very good for everyone in the chain. shits do happen but still if everyone is doing their part, i really think issues can be dealt with fairly effectively.

this is not the same as custom mkbs, where warranty of each part is actually quite limited. (but luckily everything is kind of repairable or replaceable)
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Many can't follow that, you giant then manufacturer scared you go to find other sub-con. But, for smaller brands, bully you more than offer u better warranty.
Every side also don't want to make loss. I worked in manufacturing last time, we need to control the good yield, so our side can earn profit through the hardwork.
Any assembly failure will bear by both brands and manufacturer. You help me, I help you when there is profit.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 15 2018, 10:01 PM)
Many can't follow that, you giant then manufacturer scared you go to find other sub-con. But, for smaller brands, bully you more than offer u better warranty.
Every side also don't want to make loss. I worked in manufacturing last time, we need to control the good yield, so our side can earn profit through the hardwork.
Any assembly failure will bear by both brands and manufacturer. You help me, I help you when there is profit.
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true, the reality is not so nice. this is because there are humans with shallow minds involved in different levels of the chain. however, long-term collaborations can never be built just based on profits (e.g. you rise but the rest fall, so what kind of collaborations are you expecting to achieve? eventually there is no one there to collaborate with you; and that's when you start to fall). also, small brands now don't mean still small brands tomorrow.

the truth is, multi-win scenarios in business can always be achieved, as long as everyone is looking at the bigger picture. in that case, no one will lose. btw maximizing profits is the last thing that you should consider in business collaborations.

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now leaving business aside hehe if you wanna make personalized pbt dye-subbed space bars, you can try this one, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=37810649913

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it's not possible to desolder the switches without desoldering the LEDs right?
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it's not possible to desolder the switches without desoldering the LEDs right?
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Yes. You need desolder the LEDs 1st, only can desolder switches.
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Interesting. Logitech revealed new rgb mechanical keyboard with TACTILE romer G switches.
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Interesting. Logitech revealed new rgb mechanical keyboard with TACTILE romer G switches.
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uh? i always thought romer-g is tactile (like brown). the new one is linear i believe. the real question is still if romer-g have switched to cherry mx compatible stems.
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the tactile version was pretty meh. also, no support for mx keycaps.
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finally have some time to look at this CTRL tkl at md for some time, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-ctrl-...anical-keyboard

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edit: it's a no-brainer to me; has almost all i want in a board. joined.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 17 2018, 12:37 PM)
finally have some time to look at this CTRL tkl at md for some time, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-ctrl-...anical-keyboard

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edit: it's a no-brainer to me; has almost all i want in a board. joined.
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Looks really good how much it cost..?
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Looks really good how much it cost..?
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usd200 for a full kit. i got the serialized barebones option (no switches, no caps), which is usd50 less, because i wanna use kailh box red/black that i stocked up just few days ago. also, the stock oem profile double-shot pbt caps are kind of thin.

yes, low-profile, plain, and simple. its price is also not as high as i expected. i like it biggrin.gif

switch hot-swapping is a practical feature. it will eventually be adopted by the mkb community.
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this is a test: about a week ago, i purposely over-lubed the switch of esc key (gateron black). all contact points (housing and slider are painted painted with ridiculous thick layers of Super Lube; the spring has been replaced with a 67g, painted with dupont multi-use lubricating oil with teflon, found at acehardware; yes i mixed these two different lubricants).

at first, the result and effect was very bad: there was no scratchy feel, but it's very mushy and 'sticky'. however, after a week of usage, these lousy effects were gone today. (well, not entirely yet, but they have become unnoticeable, if you don't pay attention to it). now the side effects: lube mixtures spreading all over inside the switch, up to the switch stems. cherry mx style mechanical switches are susceptible to dust, which can result in key chattering. over-lubing increases the chance for dust to stick to your board and switches.

conclusions: like all sifus said, less is more, don't over-apply lubes on switches. doing so will create a lot of mess hehe

now i am waiting to see if there are bad side effects due to random lube mixtures. it will take some time.

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this is a test: about a week ago, i purposely over-lubed the switch of esc key (gateron black). all contact points (housing and slider are painted painted with ridiculous thick layers of Super Lube; the spring has been replaced with a 67g, painted with dupont multi-use lubricating oil with teflon, found at acehardware; yes i mixed these two different lubricants).

at first, the result and effect was very bad: there was no scratchy feel, but it's very mushy and 'sticky'. however, after a week of usage, these lousy effects were gone today. (well, not entirely yet, but they have become unnoticeable, if you don't pay attention to it). now the side effects: lube mixtures spreading all over inside the switch, up to the switch stems. cherry mx style mechanical switches are susceptible to dust, which can result in key chattering. over-lubing increases the chance for dust to stick to your board and switches.

conclusions: like all sifus said, less is more, don't over-apply lubes on switches. doing so will create a lot of mess hehe

now i am waiting to see if there are bad side effects due to random lube mixtures. it will take some time.
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nice info. thanks.
just bought a rapid-i from quavadis123, thinking to gateronized it (Black) and paint it beige and put on enjoypbt to make it look vintage (model m looks)
anyway, may i know what's your take on linear switches? what are the best heavy linear switch you'd recommend?
I have a few testers (kailh, cherry, gateron, outemu, greetech), will probably spend some time with'em tonight.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 18 2018, 03:13 PM)
nice info. thanks.
just bought a rapid-i from quavadis123, thinking to gateronized it (Black) and paint it beige and put on enjoypbt to make it look vintage (model m looks)
anyway, may i know what's your take on linear switches? what are the best heavy linear switch you'd recommend?
I have a few testers (kailh, cherry, gateron, outemu, greetech), will probably spend some time with'em tonight.
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These rapid-i at RM 100, I learnt that experienced enthusiasts made decision very fast.
And new players take long time decisions, and many tends to become kaki airplane.
This kind of symptom is always there in the community, experienced players always have big advantage because they understand what they are buying.

Still, the current mkb community, i can see is much lower amount of knowledge, they join the group for the sake of having many groups in their profile.
Can conclude, the community is running the reverse gear compared to nearby countries community.

The passion, attitude, culture. purchasing power are the downfall of our current group. doh.gif
It's super sad, people telling you last time mkb club is much more better because less toxic and less sohai and cb kia. lol.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 18 2018, 03:13 PM)
nice info. thanks.

just bought a rapid-i from quavadis123, thinking to gateronized it (Black) and paint it beige and put on enjoypbt to make it look vintage (model m looks)
anyway, may i know what's your take on linear switches? what are the best heavy linear switch you'd recommend?
I have a few testers (kailh, cherry, gateron, outemu, greetech), will probably spend some time with'em tonight.
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oh nice smile.gif for those who like creative work there are always extra miles for you guys to make the boards look even better.

i like linear switches, and lubed red is my favorite. heavier switches give us stiffer and solid feels, which is very nice. however if they're too stiff, your fingers will feel tired after typing on them for a while. to me gateron yellow is just nice; i don't feel tired when i type on them for long hours.

the 'best heavy' switches really depends on personal experience. it's for you to find out. you should try out gateron yellow/black first, which are 50g; cherry mx black is 60g; kailh box heavy yellow is 70g; and cherry mx linear grey is 80g (a rare switch; it's for space bar for boards that come with cherry mx black).

for cherry mx style switches, you can also swap springs to get what you want. (meaning you get springs of different weights and try them out) note that this might not be the case of kailh box, because springs in kailh box was reported to be narrower. it might not work well if you used springs from cherry mx style switches.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 18 2018, 04:33 PM)
These rapid-i at RM 100, I learnt that experienced enthusiasts made decision very fast.
And new players take long time decisions, and many tends to become kaki airplane.
This kind of symptom is always there in the community, experienced players always have big advantage because they understand what they are buying.

Still, the current mkb community, i can see is much lower amount of knowledge, they join the group for the sake of having many groups in their profile.
Can conclude, the community is running the reverse gear compared to nearby countries community.

The passion, attitude, culture. purchasing power are the downfall of our current group.  doh.gif
It's super sad, people telling you last time mkb club is much more better because less toxic and less sohai and cb kia. lol.
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experienced users always have advantages.

uh? joining groups just for the sake of having many groups in a profile? is it a new trend of measuring e-penis? in this case, i have a puny one haha!

relax bro. it's a community, people come and go. those who like the hobby will stay.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 18 2018, 04:33 PM)
These rapid-i at RM 100, I learnt that experienced enthusiasts made decision very fast.
And new players take long time decisions, and many tends to become kaki airplane.
This kind of symptom is always there in the community, experienced players always have big advantage because they understand what they are buying.

Still, the current mkb community, i can see is much lower amount of knowledge, they join the group for the sake of having many groups in their profile.
Can conclude, the community is running the reverse gear compared to nearby countries community.

The passion, attitude, culture. purchasing power are the downfall of our current group.  doh.gif
It's super sad, people telling you last time mkb club is much more better because less toxic and less sohai and cb kia. lol.
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Chill bro. Ppl come and go in any community. I can understand how some ppl wander around the gaming peripheral space and suddenly stumble across the MKB community.
You can't really label them as "enthusiast". They just want a nice gamer-y looking keyboard with blings( which they think it's nice) and bugger off. This is where the affordable chinese boards come in. Aula ada LED at RM150, Filco x da. Bodo la. *beli Aula*
They don't have the passion to study more and venture deeper. Altering switches, solder/desolder, spending huge bucks on caps (c'mon, to normal ppl, RM500 for a set of plastic caps? They laugh).
Afterall, MKB is still a really niche passion. Not everyone willing to spend so much on something they deem valueless. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Buying power can be one of the largest showstopper for some ppl but I think it's more of value proposition. Looking at these rapid-i for Rm100 for example, to some ppl, these are "fishy" stuff. "Why so cheap ah? Spoilt ah? Cannot use ah? Condition how ah? Need repair ah? LED how ah? I will consider bro." then FFK. Like you said, ppl like us will know what to do with it the moment we see it on sale. Desolder and selling the switches alone worth almost the price paid. At least, to me, I get 87 Cherry housing rclxms.gif I still have the PCB and the casing (gonna repaint it).

I'm pretty sure the ones who bought them will mostly revamp the entire board instead of using it as it is.

But still, I wouldn't call myself an experienced enthusiast. I'm just loving what I'm doing. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(horns @ Mar 18 2018, 05:08 PM)
oh nice smile.gif for those who like creative work there are always extra miles for you guys to make the boards look even better.

i like linear switches, and lubed red is my favorite. heavier switches give us stiffer and solid feels, which is very nice. however if they're too stiff, your fingers will feel tired after typing on them for a while. to me gateron yellow is just nice; i don't feel tired when i type on them for long hours.

the 'best heavy' switches really depends on personal experience. it's for you to find out. you should try out gateron yellow/black first, which are 50g; cherry mx black is 60g; kailh box heavy yellow is 70g; and cherry mx linear grey is 80g (a rare switch; it's for space bar for boards that come with cherry mx black).

for cherry mx style switches, you can also swap springs to get what you want. (meaning you get springs of different weights and try them out) note that this might not be the case of kailh box, because springs in kailh box was reported to be narrower. it might not work well if you used springs from cherry mx style switches.
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Just spent some time around the linear ones within my tester collection. Gats yellow are nice. And like the others have said, Gats are a little wobbly but smoother than Cherry. I'm not sure the wobbliness will affect much at typing/gaming as I've not tried a fully gateronized board myself.
Reds are too light for me. Accidental presses by resting fingers on it sweat.gif
To me Cherry Black are scratchy but not as wobbly.
I'm experimenting putting Gat black/yellow slider into Cherry house and see if I can achieve the best of both world.
Probably some lube will help hmm.gif

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Chill bro. Ppl come and go in any community. I can understand how some ppl wander around the gaming peripheral space and suddenly stumble across the MKB community.
You can't really label them as "enthusiast". They just want a nice gamer-y looking keyboard with blings( which they think it's nice) and bugger off. This is where the affordable chinese boards come in. Aula ada LED at RM150, Filco x da. Bodo la. *beli Aula*
They don't have the passion to study more and venture deeper. Altering switches, solder/desolder, spending huge bucks on caps (c'mon, to normal ppl, RM500 for a set of plastic caps? They laugh).
Afterall, MKB is still a really niche passion. Not everyone willing to spend so much on something they deem valueless. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Buying power can be one of the largest showstopper for some ppl but I think it's more of value proposition. Looking at these rapid-i for Rm100 for example, to some ppl, these are "fishy" stuff. "Why so cheap ah? Spoilt ah? Cannot use ah? Condition how ah? Need repair ah? LED how ah? I will consider bro." then FFK. Like you said, ppl like us will know what to do with it the moment we see it on sale. Desolder and selling the switches alone worth almost the price paid. At least, to me, I get 87 Cherry housing rclxms.gif I still have the PCB and the casing (gonna repaint it).

I'm pretty sure the ones who bought them will mostly revamp the entire board instead of using it as it is.

But still, I wouldn't call myself an experienced enthusiast. I'm just loving what I'm doing.  biggrin.gif

Just spent some time around the linear ones within my tester collection. Gats yellow are nice. And like the others have said, Gats are a little wobbly but smoother than Cherry. I'm not sure the wobbliness will affect much at typing/gaming as I've not tried a fully gateronized board myself.
Reds are too light for me. Accidental presses by resting fingers on it  sweat.gif
To me Cherry Black are scratchy but not as wobbly.
I'm experimenting putting Gat black/yellow slider into Cherry house and see if I can achieve the best of both world.
Probably some lube will help hmm.gif
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true, the obvious weakness of gateron normal switches is its wobbly stems. however, i'm fine with them when i type. i have a board with gateron red and one with yellow. currently kailh box switches have the least wobble stems, and they're pre-lubed.

do spend time lubing switches. it brings significant improvements on typing experience. scratchy effects will be gone after it's done.

please share with us the results of your experiments. it will be useful for all of us who wanna do the similar smile.gif

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your points are spot-on about our current mkb community.

mkb is a general and over-simplified marketing term now, nothing related to what a true mkb community is after. hence, most users have a very shallow knowledge of mkbs, established based on marketing, and over-glorified yet crappy prebuilts. (.. and most of them thought they're very good already) however, some of these users will eventually realize the obvious differences, and start to appreciate true values of the actual mkb community.

still, i'm pretty optimistic about our mkb community smile.gif

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... painted with dupont multi-use lubricating oil with teflon, found at acehardware...
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Bro, this dupont oil, is it the aerosol spray can or the blue bottle with red cap? I had been looking for the Super Lube 51004(oil) in a few Ace Hardware stores and apparently they don't carry them anymore. Trying to look for alternatives but not sure which one to get. Krytox is kinda too pricy and hassle since have to get oversea.
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Bro, this dupont oil, is it the aerosol spray can or the blue bottle with red cap? I had been looking for the Super Lube 51004(oil)  in a few Ace Hardware stores and apparently they don't carry them anymore. Trying to look for alternatives but not sure which one to get. Krytox is kinda too pricy and hassle since have to get oversea.
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it's the one with blue bottle with red cap, http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/pr...e-lubricant.php note that this blue-bottle oil is not really plastic-safe; i use it for other purposes. i just tested it with one switch only, just for fun.

the plastic-safe one comes with silicon, but i haven't found it in oil form yet, http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/pr...e-lubricant.php

i couldn't find Super Lube 51004 oil also. (what a turn-off :/) however i think there should be other affordable alternatives that we can use. (i usually refer to product sheets for clues)

.. and krytox is ridiculously expensive in Malaysia. yes it's available here, but they're not cheap.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 20 2018, 01:55 PM)
it's the one with blue bottle with red cap, http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/pr...e-lubricant.php note that this blue-bottle oil is not really plastic-safe; i use it for other purposes. i just tested it with one switch only, just for fun.

the plastic-safe one comes with silicon, but i haven't found it in oil form yet, http://www.performancelubricantsusa.com/pr...e-lubricant.php

i couldn't find Super Lube 51004 oil also. (what a turn-off :/) however i think there should be other affordable alternatives that we can use. (i usually refer to product sheets for clues)
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Thanks for the update!

QUOTE(horns @ Mar 20 2018, 01:55 PM)
.. and krytox is ridiculously expensive in Malaysia. yes it's available here, but they're not cheap.
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Thanks for the update!
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it's like myr 300+ for 50g of GPL 205 (without gst and shipping). the order must meet moq. it's more expensive than a new ikbc c87 lol

edit: if you really need it, just get these from elsewhere. taobao, amazon, etc. have them also

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.. as usual, i am impatient. here are some shots about my spare gk64, with cherry mx red/silent red/silent black, in a black kbdfans 5-degree case. it's based on my previous notes here.
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even though the plate is only supported by switches only, without additional reinforcements from screws and soldering of switches apparently, it's surprisingly sturdy. screws are used to secure pcb into the case only, not the plate. this is the main difference from the stock/prebuilt gk64. you just start switch installation from all four sides and center to provide the base first, to make sure they sit flush, then only populate the rest.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 19 2018, 02:48 PM)
true, the obvious weakness of gateron normal switches is its wobbly stems. however, i'm fine with them when i type. i have a board with gateron red and one with yellow. currently kailh box switches have the least wobble stems, and they're pre-lubed.

do spend time lubing switches. it brings significant improvements on typing experience. scratchy effects will be gone after it's done.

please share with us the results of your experiments. it will be useful for all of us who wanna do the similar smile.gif

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your points are spot-on about our current mkb community.

mkb is a general and over-simplified marketing term now, nothing related to what a true mkb community is after. hence, most users have a very shallow knowledge of mkbs, established based on marketing, and over-glorified yet crappy prebuilts. (.. and most of them thought they're very good already) however, some of these users will eventually realize the obvious differences, and start to appreciate true values of the actual mkb community.

still, i'm pretty optimistic about our mkb community smile.gif

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my black 5-degree case just arrived. hopefully i can spend this weekend installing my spare gk64 pcb into it haha!
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Sure. probably will spend these few evenings fucking around with the switches and see what's the best that i can get.

Our current MKB community is more like adolescence stage, where it's current being flooded with less-informed users slowly progressing to the mature stage where information are much more widespread.
Still, it all depends how much passion that the person has.

QUOTE(horns @ Mar 20 2018, 03:12 PM)
it's like myr 300+ for 50g of GPL 205 (without gst and shipping). the order must meet moq. it's more expensive than a new ikbc c87 lol

edit: if you really need it, just get these from elsewhere. taobao, amazon, etc. have them also
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Sure. probably will spend these few evenings fucking around with the switches and see what's the best that i can get.

Our current MKB community is more like adolescence stage, where it's current being flooded with less-informed users slowly progressing to the mature stage where information are much more widespread.
Still, it all depends how much passion that the person has.

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yeah nice man biggrin.gif now i also feel gatal dy. restocking switches for testing also lol

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it's an official quote. i smiled after reading through the whole thing smile.gif

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 20 2018, 03:50 PM)
.. as usual, i am impatient. here are some shots about my spare gk64, with cherry mx red/silent red/silent black, in a black kbdfans 5-degree case. it's based on my previous notes here.
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even though the plate is only supported by switches only, without additional reinforcements from screws and soldering of switches apparently, it's surprisingly sturdy. screws are used to secure pcb into the case only, not the plate. this is the main difference from the stock/prebuilt gk64. you just start switch installation from all four sides and center to provide the base first, to make sure they sit flush, then only populate the rest.
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rclxms.gif Nice board..
Posting such photos increase our morale and passion towards MKB. thumbsup.gif
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rclxms.gif  Nice board..
Posting such photos increase our morale and passion towards MKB.  thumbsup.gif
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thanks hehe

i really hope i can help more. hopefully others will join and have fun too

for now, i like to do this with CIY boards. (it's more convenient to swap stuff in and out) there are still many rooms for improvements for custom mkb building with CIY pcb like gk64. (e.g. still very limited options in terms of pcb. however i think a 60% is a good starting point) i believe if it's done right, custom CIY boards can fill the gaps between prebuilts and customs with soldered switches, especially for beginners to start understanding basics of mkbs, and exploring the real fun of mkbs (without getting so many different prebuilts like me lol)

edit:

oh yes a note on case customization with gk64 pcb, especially if you're using metal cases - it's very important that you insulate the pcb from the metal bottom case; at least cover all standoffs of the bottom case with plastic tapes or use plastic insulation rings. previously i missed out one of the standoffs, few keys near that standoff always acted randomly. (key chattering-like) it's gone after i added an insulation ring on the standoff.

the chinese-made screw-in pcb-mount stabs are actually not bad. they are secured firmly on to pcb, and everything fits. i lubed them pretty heavily.

other than that, the whole installation process was a breeze.

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if i was reading correctly, there will be a gk64 with bluetooth module, and a gk84. i was hoping for a gk7x :/


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 19 2018, 02:48 PM)
your points are spot-on about our current mkb community.

mkb is a general and over-simplified marketing term now, nothing related to what a true mkb community is after. hence, most users have a very shallow knowledge of mkbs, established based on marketing, and over-glorified yet crappy prebuilts. (.. and most of them thought they're very good already) however, some of these users will eventually realize the obvious differences, and start to appreciate true values of the actual mkb community.

still, i'm pretty optimistic about our mkb community smile.gif
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don't stop just at keyboard icon_idea.gif there's much more than that

such as designing and building your own dope ass panic button brows.gif
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don't stop just at keyboard icon_idea.gif there's much more than that

such as designing and building your own dope ass panic button brows.gif
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hi james ooi..
the photo put spoiler..
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haha that's part of the fun that we can have by learning ee stuff in general
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yea, but IMO, most of the work is mainly on programming instead of electronic hardware design.
pretty tedious to write functional and non-chunky code for embedded devices laugh.gif

QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 22 2018, 01:42 PM)
hi james ooi..
the photo put spoiler..
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ah, my bad laugh.gif
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yea, but IMO, most of the work is mainly on programming instead of electronic hardware design.
pretty tedious to write functional and non-chunky code for embedded devices laugh.gif
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haha funny my friends who build their own smart watches with all those sensors told me the same thing

i don't know what they are doing, but i know i can get helps if i'm stuck with soldering issues on my boards haha
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haha funny my friends who build their own smart watches with all those sensors told me the same thing

i don't know what they are doing, but i know i can get helps if i'm stuck with soldering issues on my boards haha
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gigantic smart watch or they managed to miniaturized it? biggrin.gif well, first it runs off battery, means whatever it does, means the software has to be as efficient as possible

haha! I wished I had friends that I can trust soldering jobs laugh.gif
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gigantic smart watch or they managed to miniaturized it? biggrin.gif well, first it runs off battery, means whatever it does, means the software has to be as efficient as possible

haha! I wished I had friends that I can trust soldering jobs laugh.gif
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miniaturized versions i think; they wear them. battery is one issue. there are more but i didn't pay attention hehe

well, about soldering jobs, as long as they work, i'm ok lol (mine is bad, but it worked so it's good enough lol)

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Before i jump the gun and buy Logitech G613,

I would like to know, if the keyboard has any thin rubberized coating on any part of the keyboard itself, particular the palm/wrist rest. Which with ages, it will turn into nasty dust-magnet and sticky to touch which turn into unpleasant usage.
Q : Rubberized coating or Hard Plastic/textured plastic ?

and since it's paired with the Logitech G603 Wireless Mouse,
Q: does it have rubberized coating or just hard plastic?
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Before i jump the gun and buy Logitech G613,

I would like to know, if the keyboard has any thin rubberized coating on any part of the keyboard itself, particular the palm/wrist rest. Which with ages, it will turn into nasty dust-magnet and sticky to touch which turn into unpleasant usage.
Q : Rubberized coating or Hard Plastic/textured plastic ?

and since it's paired with the Logitech G603 Wireless Mouse,
Q: does it have rubberized coating or just hard plastic?
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Logitch G613 don't use rubberized coating, just only use smoother contrast light grey plastics on the keyboard and mouse.
Bottom of the case of mouse and keyboard, they do use darker color sand-blasted plastics though.

Indeed, rubber coating does provide dust-magnet, finger magnet, and hell of sticky melt after few years.

Note: Get info from the reviewer. Since, now rubberized coating pretty much the enemy of whole keyboard industry. smile.gif

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in general input devices with rubberized coatings (e.g. keyboards, especially mice) are bad after few years. the devices are still good, but sticky gum-like materials on their surfaces just don't feel nice to hold on to.

hopefully the current steelseries sensei 310 doesn't have that. (i also have logitech pro and g403 as backups)

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 11:04 AM)
in general input devices with rubberized coatings (e.g. keyboards, especially mice) are bad after few years. the devices are still good, but sticky gum-like materials on their surfaces just don't feel nice to hold on to.

hopefully the current steelseries sensei 310 doesn't have that. (i also have logitech pro and g403 as backups)
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rubber coat is good for short term, good grip, nice feeling.. Such coat promote you to BUY MORE. If a product can use like 10 years, then tutup kedai just like Filco in Malaysia. laugh.gif
I even have lots of pen using rubber coating.. Make me feel, the coating cost is cheap as dirt.
If no 1 buy from me, i also tutup. Reality. sad.gif

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 23 2018, 11:41 AM)
rubber coat is good for short term, good grip, nice feeling.. Such coat promote you to BUY MORE. If a product can use like 10 years, then tutup kedai just like Filco in Malaysia.  laugh.gif
I even have lots of pen using rubber coating.. Make me feel, the coating cost is cheap as dirt.
If no 1 buy from me, i also tutup. Reality. sad.gif
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it's true about the purpose of rubber coating. it really feels nice when it's new hehe

.. and i believe filco can last for 10 years or more, well, good stuff that last usually doesn't mean the end of a product. there will always be new comers, and customers that return for more

btw for mice, instead of rubber coatings, why not just make replaceable surfaces for users to play with? there are so many spin-offs that they can offer (.. and yet they just stopped at replacement feet)


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 12:47 PM)
it's true about the purpose of rubber coating. it really feels nice when it's new hehe

.. and i believe filco can last for 10 years or more, well, good stuff that last usually doesn't mean the end of a product. there will always be new comers, and customers that return for more

btw for mice, instead of rubber coatings, why not just make replaceable surfaces for users to play with? there are so many spin-offs that they can offer (.. and yet they just stopped at replacement feet)
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next 10 years only can earn you another board money. That's why now filco no more in Malaysia.. Need another 10 years.
My filco after 6 years still ok. another 4 years to go.. hope they still there once the time come.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 23 2018, 01:22 PM)
next 10 years only can earn you another board money. That's why now filco no more in Malaysia.. Need another 10 years.
My filco after 6 years still ok. another 4 years to go..  hope they still there once the time come.
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that's filco. if you only carried the keyboards of that brand alone, that might be the case.

however like varmilo, diatec also has a lot more to offer:
1. they have tenkeypads;
2. they have plenty of key cap sets;
3. they also offer case customization, e.g. http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/kobo/

there are more, http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/

globalized markets are now part of our lives. coupled with local online stores, impacts to local businesses are imminent. however there are still ways to make a business continue to strive.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 02:07 PM)
that's filco. if you only carried the keyboards of that brand alone, that might be the case.

however like varmilo, diatec also has a lot more to offer:
1. they have tenkeypads;
2. they have plenty of key cap sets;
3. they also offer case customization, e.g. http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/kobo/

there are more, http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/

globalized markets are now part of our lives. coupled with local online stores, impacts to local businesses are imminent. however there are still ways to make a business continue to strive.
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Malaysia did bring in kobo, but the cost is high. What you listed out, Malaysia offered before. So, end of story, is gg RIP. innocent.gif
Struggle to survive, but, losing the market. Nothing to sorry about, weak always phased out, only fittest survived.

They will coming back in the future when the buying power for filco is there. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 23 2018, 02:27 PM)
Malaysia did bring in kobo, but the cost is high. What you listed out, Malaysia offered before. So, end of story, is gg RIP.  innocent.gif
Struggle to survive, but, losing the market. Nothing to sorry about, weak always phased out, only fittest survived.

They will coming back in the future when the buying power for filco is there.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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first, sorry for my ignorance (i was editing the original post then i saw this). i am really not aware of the existence of kobo stuff in Malaysia.

it's always 'survival of the fittest', and the key question is always, 'what have you done to maintain fitness?'

consumers are from all walks of life. there will always be entry-level, mid-range and high-end buyers. if they're keen on having a share of local market, it's diatec that need to do something. (look at razer. still going strong despite bad parts, overpriced and all)
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 03:24 PM)
first, sorry for my ignorance (i was editing the original post then i saw this). i am really not aware of the existence of kobo stuff in Malaysia.

it's always 'survival of the fittest', and the key question is always, 'what have you done to maintain fitness?'

consumers are from all walks of life. there will always be entry-level, mid-range and high-end buyers. if they're keen on having a share of local market, it's diatec that need to do something. (look at razer. still going strong despite bad parts, overpriced and all)
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Only Razer surviving in Malaysia.
Other brands you can name is going down the slope. And brand like iKBC, Mistel, Vortex all no more in Malaysia distri. And more bigger brands will ceased soon.
I think Ducky will be the next victim, after see they desperate to struggle to survive in latest few weeks post. So much older stocks that people don't want to buy.

On the other hand, Sg sales for "certain big brand" overtake Malaysia. Small country, big spending power.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 23 2018, 04:16 PM)
Only Razer surviving in Malaysia.
Other brands you can name is going down the slope. And brand like iKBC, Mistel, Vortex all no more in Malaysia distri. And more bigger brands will ceased soon.
I think Ducky will be the next victim, after see they desperate to struggle to survive in latest few weeks post. So much older stocks that people don't want to buy.

On the other hand, Sg sales for "certain big brand" overtake Malaysia. Small country, big spending power.
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it's marketing done right for razer.

although it's sad to see this happening, there is not much we can do as consumer. however i believe if there are good demands, they will be back.

.. looks like in near future our users only know brands like corsair, cm, logitech, razer, tt esports, amargeddon, and tecware. wow.

edit: maybe it's a good thing. who knows smile.gif

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Hi all, does any one know where I can buy costar stabilizers?

I have some wierd looking stabilizers that don't fit with cherry style keycaps which I just got a set of.

I would buy from AliExpress or Taobao but the keycaps are coming this weekend and I would like the stabilizers soon smile.gif

Any advice is much appreciated.
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Hi all, does any one know where I can buy costar stabilizers?

I have some wierd looking stabilizers that don't fit with cherry style keycaps which I just got a set of.

I would buy from AliExpress or Taobao but the keycaps are coming this weekend and I would like the stabilizers soon smile.gif

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the chance is very small if you wanna get them locally. also, costar stabs are not common.

i found clones at taobao and aliexpress. not sure about original costar stabs.

edit: which board are you using btw?

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 24 2018, 02:35 PM)
the chance is very small if you wanna get them locally. also, costar stabs are not common.

i found clones at taobao and aliexpress. not sure about original costar stabs.

edit: which board are you using btw?
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Costar clones are fine, as long as they can fit cherry style keycaps.

I'm using a reachace board, but I cant seem to find any info about it online.
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Costar clones are fine, as long as they can fit cherry style keycaps.

I'm using a reachace board, but I cant seem to find any info about it online.
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haha ok since you have good confidence about costar clones

oh ok got it. you can find information about it (switches and all) with search engines.
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Just bought Logitech G613 and G603... Waiting to collect it ... Exciting!!

using Microsoft Keyboard and Mouse Wireless 2000, which the mouse is annoying to use, have to scrap off the Rubber coating and spray on spray paint on it. And the keyboard now have rattling and annoying noise when typing... like a bee buzzing, vibraition of the keycaps.

Will update here once recieved it! smile.gif
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sweet smile.gif

yes please share with us your personal experience. i like to play with key caps so i skip anything with romer-g switches hehe

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I like the way it is, although no fancy RGB ( not really matters to me ) ... I work in dark enviroment so, a plate of LED will distract me. Subtle is fine smile.gif

it's my first Mechanical Keyboard, and since i hate wires, i get Wireless one smile.gif
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Mar 24 2018, 11:47 PM)
I like the way it is, although no fancy RGB ( not really matters to me ) ... I work in dark enviroment so, a plate of LED will distract me. Subtle is fine smile.gif

it's my first Mechanical Keyboard, and since i hate wires, i get Wireless one smile.gif
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so.. you want a hefty case?

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 25 2018, 02:53 AM)
so..  you want a hefty case?

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.. and when i searched for prebuilt wooden boards to see if they exist, i found this, https://www.alexcious.com/products/detail124.html

almost usd1.5k. non-mechanical.

edit:

after going through http://www.hacoa.com/hacoa_eng/ it's about arts thingy, work of skilled folks in Japan.

well, it's like we don't have such skilled persons here :/


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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 28 2018, 05:10 PM)
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Just curious is that all we need to build a keyboard?
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QUOTE(antaras @ Mar 28 2018, 05:46 PM)
You are missing some stabilizers.
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Ok thanks lol. Not cheap to get a custom built keyboard
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Collected the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard and G603 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse.

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The Keyboard is very nice built with High-Quality and fine textured plastic. Typing on it feels very nice and crisp. Romer-G switch is really nice to type with.
There's no wire, so my desk stays cluster free as before ( Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000 ). There's no fancy RGB LED backligthning ,
it's fine for me as i don't fancy those leds, kind of distracting in my ambient room.

Logitwch G603 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse
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The Mouse is very nice built with High-Quality and fine textured plastic for comfort grip. This is my first mechanical Gaming mouse featuring both wireless and Omron Switches.
Clicking on it feels super awesome and crisp and clicky. The scroll wheel is one piece thick rubber and hopefully won't degrade like my old Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000. Also,
there's no fancy RGB lightning for this mouse too.

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 28 2018, 06:29 PM)
Ok thanks lol. Not cheap to get a custom built keyboard
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it is not cheap. but if u build with much loves and care(read=minor mods) the feels is much better than pre-built ones.
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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 28 2018, 06:29 PM)
Ok thanks lol. Not cheap to get a custom built keyboard
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price is the main advantage of mass-produced prebuilts.

custom built boards have their own advantages: it's much easier to build them with almost everything that you plan to have (switches, stabs, case, form factor, mods, etc.) you can also tweak as much as you want to make customs perfect for you. furthermore, the price actually depends on costs of each part, e.g. if you swapped the case with a generic plastic case, the costs will be lower.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Mar 28 2018, 07:44 PM)
Collected the Logitech G613 Lightspeed Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard  and G603  Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse.

Logitech G613  Lightspeed Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
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The Keyboard is very nice built with High-Quality and fine textured plastic. Typing on it feels very nice and crisp. Romer-G switch is really nice to type with.
There's no wire, so my desk stays cluster free as before ( Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000 ). There's no fancy RGB LED backligthning ,
it's fine for me as i don't fancy those leds, kind of distracting in my ambient room.

Logitwch G603  Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse
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The Mouse is very nice built with High-Quality and fine textured plastic for comfort grip. This is my first mechanical Gaming mouse featuring both wireless and Omron Switches.
Clicking on it feels super awesome and crisp and clicky. The scroll wheel is one piece thick rubber and hopefully won't degrade like my old Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000. Also,
there's no fancy RGB lightning for this mouse too.
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actually you can say the same for mkbs with decent cherry mx style switches.


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 28 2018, 08:27 PM)
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actually you can say the same for mkbs with decent cherry mx style switches.
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I never actually went to Low yat and other stores that display the keyboard and press all the keyboard since
Cherry Switch or Mechanical Keyboard introduced years ago.

This is my first time pressing it, and it feel totally awesome to type.
When i try my Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000.... a membrane type-keyboard, and i can say Mechanical Keyboard is the one i need now..
I won't ever go back to Membrane-keyboard anymore.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:34 PM)
I never actually went to Low yat and other stores that display the keyboard and press all the keyboard since
Cherry Switch or Mechanical Keyboard introduced years ago.

This is my first time pressing it, and it feel totally awesome to type.
When i try my Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000.... a membrane type-keyboard, and i can say Mechanical Keyboard is the one i need now..
I won't ever go back to Membrane-keyboard anymore.
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To be honest here, after adventure long time in mkb, you will go back to membrane (those cheap price keyboard).
Less generalise keyboard, you will be happier.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:34 PM)
I never actually went to Low yat and other stores that display the keyboard and press all the keyboard since
Cherry Switch or Mechanical Keyboard introduced years ago.

This is my first time pressing it, and it feel totally awesome to type.
When i try my Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000.... a membrane type-keyboard, and i can say Mechanical Keyboard is the one i need now..
I won't ever go back to Membrane-keyboard anymore.
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you should really do that first. usually it's important to find the switch type that you like the most.

however it's fine now because you like your new board haha that's all it matters.

about ditching membrane-like boards, hold that thought yet. maybe some days you will like capacitive switches, found in boards like topre and hhkb (springs + rubber dome sheets). they feel just like membrane boards, but the devils are in the details.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:53 PM)
To be honest here, after adventure long time in mkb, you will go back to membrane (those cheap price keyboard).
Less generalise keyboard, you will be happier.
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no. i will not go back. die die also wanna use mkbs now hehe
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 28 2018, 09:07 PM)
no. i will not go back. die die also wanna use mkbs now hehe
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:53 PM)
To be honest here, after adventure long time in mkb, you will go back to membrane (those cheap price keyboard).
Less generalise keyboard, you will be happier.
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Why ? 😅
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 28 2018, 09:13 PM)
Once reach enlightenment, then you will say differently like other old folks veterans.  laugh.gif
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enlighten me mastah !

coz same as above, i die die oso wont use cheap membrane.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 28 2018, 09:13 PM)
Once reach enlightenment, then you will say differently like other old folks veterans.  laugh.gif
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maybe this will happen. it's true that i will never know what i like at the much later stages of my mkb journey.

however, what i know for sure is this: for switches, i will stick to lubed red for a long time. i know it's cool to play with other switch types; and i like the vast varieties and choices. it's nice to play with different ones once in a while, but then i will go back to lubed red eventually.

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Thinking of getting Anne Pro, and see Lazada selling for RM200. Any problem buying from them/there?
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Guys, Logitech G610 for 300, is it worthwhile? Is it a good mkb?
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QUOTE(choongy @ Mar 28 2018, 11:58 PM)
Guys, Logitech G610 for 300, is it worthwhile? Is it a good mkb?
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Mar 28 2018, 11:08 PM)
Thinking of getting Anne Pro, and see Lazada selling for RM200. Any problem buying from them/there?
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not familiar with lazada. the last time i checked these anne pro don't come with warranty.

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there is a rgb version of varmilo tkl, va87rgb. i wonder when they will be available.

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 29 2018, 12:37 AM)
not familiar with lazada. the last time i checked these anne pro don't come with warranty.

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there is a rgb version of varmilo tkl, va87rgb. i wonder when they will be available.
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 29 2018, 01:38 AM)
u shud change ur mkb to 20++  whistling.gif
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.. damn yeah i will reach that number with up-coming ones. thanks to gk64, i don't need to get many prebuilts anymore.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 29 2018, 02:12 AM)
.. damn yeah i will reach that number with up-coming ones. thanks to gk64, i don't need to get many prebuilts anymore.
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as u and me know, not much prebuilts are good enuff for us except for some brands.

just need more CIY boards now.
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 29 2018, 02:18 AM)
as u and me know, not much prebuilts are good enuff for us except for some brands.

just need more CIY boards now.
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yes luckily there are only a few of them now haha

for CIY boards, especially decent-quality CIY kits, i really hope there will be more. in terms of typing experience, they are filling up gaps between most prebuilts and conventional custom boards that require switch soldering effectively. they are good because they help beginners to learn and experience more about essential components of a mkb (e.g. switches, cases, plates, stabs, pcb), before they decide to build permanent customs with whatever combos that they need.

for now CIY boards are still at the early stages of the development cycle. (still have plenty of rooms for improvements, e.g. structural reinforcements, firmware) a nice thing to see is that adoption and user acceptance level are getting better in mkb community.

good prebuilts will always have their places in the market. instead of going blindly for brands, and ending up with a crappy product, users are more aware of options that they can have. a good prebuilt will always win.
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key caps that i want are here now.

- pcb: gk64 pcb, firmware: 1.16;
- case: kbdfans 5-degree,black;
- plate: tina's plate, layout-a;
- switches: lubed cherry mx; numbers - silent red; alphas - red; modifiers and space bar - silent black;
- stabilizers: Chinese-made screw-in pcb-mount stabs;
- key caps: cherry profile dye-subbed pbt for gk64.
- mods applied: lubed switches; band-aid mod; lubed stabilizers.

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this concludes everything: my first ever custom gk64 built from a spare pcb, and it's very easy to assemble. for those who already have generic 60% cases, pcb-mount stabs, and switches, all you need are just gk64 pcb, and compatible top plate.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 29 2018, 12:37 AM)
not familiar with lazada. the last time i checked these anne pro don't come with warranty.
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Yeah, quite risky because if one of the switches broke, it's considered DOA.
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Mar 29 2018, 12:48 PM)
Yeah, quite risky because if one of the switches broke, it's considered DOA.
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maybe you should check with the seller first before purchase. if basics like DOA is not even taken care of, it's an issue.

if it's just bad switches, that's easy to fix. but if the problem is from things like pcb then it's another story already.
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for those who are interested, here's the list of custom keyboards that support switch hot-swapping that i know of.

1. Kira Mechanical Keyboard, form factor: compact full-size, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekash...ard/description
2. Massdrop CTRL, form factor: tkl, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-ctrl-...anical-keyboard
3. Massdrop x Tokyo Keyboard Tokyo60 Keyboard Kit, form factor: 60%, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tok...60-keyboard-kit
4. Rama Works M60-A, form factor: HHKB-style, https://ramaworks.store/products/m60-a
5. XD002, form factor: 2% (2-key), https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94867.0

edit: the last one, well, supports macros programming biggrin.gif

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Can anyone recommend any RGB mechanical keyboard around RM300 with Blue or Brown Cherry switch? Preferably with numpad...
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Can anyone recommend any RGB mechanical keyboard around RM300 with Blue or Brown Cherry switch? Preferably with numpad...
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sorry but your budget is slightly off for new boards with cherry mx rgb. you can top up a bit to get non-led ikbc c104.

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hi im trying to decide a new keyboard.. i'm having a hard time deciding between vortex pok3r, anne pro, ducky one tkl or filco majestouch 2 tkl.. which one would be better suited for both gaming and lots of typing for a novel.. noob here
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 30 2018, 10:21 AM)
hi im trying to decide a new keyboard.. i'm having a hard time deciding between vortex pok3r, anne pro, ducky one tkl or filco majestouch 2 tkl.. which one would be better suited for both gaming and lots of typing for a novel.. noob here
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have you tried any of them at a shop or something? it's better for you to do that first.

personally i suggest filco tkl among the four.
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 30 2018, 10:21 AM)
hi im trying to decide a new keyboard.. i'm having a hard time deciding between vortex pok3r, anne pro, ducky one tkl or filco majestouch 2 tkl.. which one would be better suited for both gaming and lots of typing for a novel.. noob here
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I believe from a usability stand point, both of those TKL boards will be a better choice. You should give them a try first as Horns mentioned. Anyway, my first board was a brown switch if I'm not mistaken. I thought it's like a middle ground between the reds and blues. hehehe... tongue.gif
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New caps just came in. First time trying DSA profile. It's easier than SA profile, at least for me.
Caps is obviously not perfect (from a price point perspective, I guess it's okay?). Some obvious misaligned keys is killing me. My OCD is off the chart whenever I look at it. hahaha...
If you are interested: DSA Laser Etched

*yes, it's laser etched legends on PBT. Not the thickest PBT as well.
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QUOTE(antaras @ Mar 30 2018, 02:07 PM)
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New caps just came in. First time trying DSA profile. It's easier than SA profile, at least for me.
Caps is obviously not perfect (from a price point perspective, I guess it's okay?). Some obvious misaligned keys is killing me. My OCD is off the chart whenever I look at it. hahaha...
If you are interested: DSA Laser Etched

*yes, it's laser etched legends on PBT. Not the thickest PBT as well.
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sweet smile.gif

dsa profile, like sa profile, is nice looking. wait what do you mean by 'easier'?

edit:

trying mix-and-match with different sets. i suck lol

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 30 2018, 02:22 PM)
sweet smile.gif

dsa profile, like sa profile, is nice looking. wait what do you mean by 'easier'?
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Easier to type on compared to SA. Perhaps I'm used to lower profile compared to high profile.
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QUOTE(antaras @ Mar 30 2018, 02:36 PM)
Easier to type on compared to SA. Perhaps I'm used to lower profile compared to high profile.
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got it. that's what i suspected for a long time.

unfortunately i have bought a set with sa profile and it's on its way. well, i will just keep it as reference if it's not working out for me lol


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 30 2018, 03:11 PM)
got it. that's what i suspected for a long time.

unfortunately i have bought a set with sa profile and it's on its way. well, i will just keep it as reference if it's not working out for me lol
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Maybe if you use it along with a wrist rest then it's not as much of an issue. I tried with wrist rest but I don't like to rest my wrist on something. So, I really think it's just personal preference. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 30 2018, 11:59 AM)
have you tried any of them at a shop or something? it's better for you to do that first.

personally i suggest filco tkl among the four.
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gotcha biggrin.gif .. you know any shop around KL that has these brands for me to test?
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QUOTE(antaras @ Mar 30 2018, 03:20 PM)
Maybe if you use it along with a wrist rest then it's not as much of an issue. I tried with wrist rest but I don't like to rest my wrist on something. So, I really think it's just personal preference.  rclxub.gif
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well i will know when it's here. yes of course it's an individual preference smile.gif
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hi guys

just bought my first mechanical keyboard from Wayne yesterday laugh.gif

just need some info

normally where is the best place to buy keycaps?

or its better to just order online? if its online, what are the keywords to search specifically for keycaps only?

as i tried to search online but most results offer a full keyboard with high price sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 30 2018, 04:50 PM)
gotcha biggrin.gif .. you know any shop around KL that has these brands for me to test?
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you can try out lowyat plaza. there are some shops, hence a better collection of demo units. i think you should check out switch types first.
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ Mar 30 2018, 04:50 PM)
gotcha biggrin.gif .. you know any shop around KL that has these brands for me to test?
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i dont know where there are coz last i heard they oledy moved. but they have the most kibod koleksyen i ever saw(for a physical shop).

find for Ultimate Zone

QUOTE(mafioso @ Mar 30 2018, 05:28 PM)
hi guys

just bought my first mechanical keyboard from Wayne yesterday laugh.gif

just need some info

normally where is the best place to buy keycaps?

or its better to just order online? if its online, what are the keywords to search specifically for keycaps only?


as i tried to search online but most results offer a full keyboard with high price sweat.gif
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fuh, legend is here.

anyway, onlinetaobao is the way to go.
there are others like,
Kaya Shop
Not so kaya shop

ull find more as u browse thru.
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 30 2018, 06:27 PM)
i dont know where there are coz last i heard they oledy moved. but they have the most kibod koleksyen i ever saw(for a physical shop).

find for Ultimate Zone
fuh, legend is here.

anyway, onlinetaobao is the way to go.
there are others like,
Kaya Shop
Not so kaya shop

ull find more as u browse thru.
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What legend.. not legend

I kuli only laugh.gif

Anyway I'll check it out

They solely sell keycaps right? Haha
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Mar 30 2018, 06:43 PM)
What legend.. not legend

I kuli only laugh.gif

Anyway I'll check it out

They solely sell keycaps right? Haha
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https://m.facebook.com/UltimatedotZone/phot...ype=3&source=48
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Mar 30 2018, 06:43 PM)
What legend.. not legend

I kuli only laugh.gif

Anyway I'll check it out

They solely sell keycaps right? Haha
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they sell a lot of stuff.
they have shops in taobao, but the one i link is english version of their website so easier.
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Mar 30 2018, 06:45 PM)
thanks bro! i'll go check it out

QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Mar 30 2018, 06:54 PM)
they sell a lot of stuff.
they have shops in taobao, but the one i link is english version of their website so easier.
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ok yea just saw!

dunno if they got sell clone hyperx keycaps or not laugh.gif
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dunno if they got sell clone hyperx keycaps or not laugh.gif
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there are plenty of better options, with different configurations (profiles, materials, printing types, etc.) just take your time to browse through first. there must be something better than clone hyperx key caps.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 30 2018, 08:18 PM)
there are plenty of better options, with different configurations (profiles, materials, printing types, etc.) just take your time to browse through first. there must be something better than clone hyperx key caps.
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haha well i just casually browse through

seems like they only sell 5 pages worth of keycaps?

but all seemed like plain ones

unless im wrong? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Mar 30 2018, 06:43 PM)
What legend.. not legend

I kuli only laugh.gif

Anyway I'll check it out

They solely sell keycaps right? Haha
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hnnnghhh legend brows.gif brows.gif just got into mech keyboard hobby? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 29 2018, 06:06 PM)
for those who are interested, here's the list of custom keyboards that support switch hot-swapping that i know of.

1. Kira Mechanical Keyboard, form factor: compact full-size, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekash...ard/description
2. Massdrop CTRL, form factor: tkl, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-ctrl-...anical-keyboard
3. Massdrop x Tokyo Keyboard Tokyo60 Keyboard Kit, form factor: 60%, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tok...60-keyboard-kit
4. Rama Works M60-A, form factor: HHKB-style, https://ramaworks.store/products/m60-a
5. XD002, form factor: 2% (2-key), https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94867.0

edit: the last one, well, supports macros programming biggrin.gif
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hnnnghhh legend brows.gif  brows.gif just got into mech keyboard hobby? laugh.gif
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ya bro

still looking for keycaps seller that has a wide range of variety

the few ones suggested here

macam very little choice sad.gif

if only they can be like royale sporting house, many shoes to choose from
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Mar 30 2018, 10:11 PM)
ya bro

still looking for keycaps seller that has a wide range of variety

the few ones suggested here

macam very little choice sad.gif

if only they can be like royale sporting house, many shoes to choose from
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just get them from Taobao, plenty of choices icon_idea.gif personal fav are PBT keycaps from EnjoyPBT. p/s: the keycaps might cost more than your keyboard

well, its a pretty niche hobby

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just get them from Taobao, plenty of choices icon_idea.gif personal fav are PBT keycaps from EnjoyPBT. p/s: the keycaps might cost more than your keyboard

well, its a pretty niche hobby
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any keywords to type?

so far i only try keywords like mechanical keyboard keycaps LOL

but the results bring me more of a full keyboards than just keycaps alone
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any keywords to type?

so far i only try keywords like mechanical keyboard keycaps LOL

but the results bring me more of a full keyboards than just keycaps alone
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I attached a list below. use Chinese to search for relevant results such as "ABS 键帽" "PBT 键帽" "EnjoyPBT 键帽", etc
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I attached a list below. use Chinese to search for relevant results such as "ABS 键帽" "PBT 键帽" "EnjoyPBT 键帽", etc
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nice one bro

if outemu switches?

compatible with cherry mx right
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nice one bro

if outemu switches?

compatible with cherry mx right
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yea, they have the same stem, shouldn't be a problem. if your keyboard layout is the standard one, then you can change your keycaps without worrying much about some weird layout where the keycaps are almost non-existent laugh.gif
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yea, they have the same stem, shouldn't be a problem. if your keyboard layout is the standard one, then you can change your keycaps without worrying much about some weird layout where the keycaps are almost non-existent  laugh.gif
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ya mine is all standard

anyway i tried.. but difficult to search in taobao since i dont know how to write or read mandarin LOL
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haha well i just casually browse through

seems like they only sell 5 pages worth of keycaps?

but all seemed like plain ones

unless im wrong? hmm.gif
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use taobao's main search; with keywords supplied by our friends above. alternatively use aliexpress.com

kprepublic's official website for non-chinese speakers is at https://kprepublic.com/ for kbdfans it's https://kbdfans.cn/

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use taobao's main search; with keywords supplied by our friends above. alternatively use aliexpress.com

kprepublic's official website for non-chinese speakers is at https://kprepublic.com/ for kbdfans it's https://kbdfans.cn/
yes it's very nice looking smile.gif
.. this is another level of obsession hehe
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when you're bored with taobao's choices, you can also explore https://en.zfrontier.com/ it's more about group buys so for most items, they might take many many months to reach you.

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when you're bored with taobao's choices, you can also explore https://en.zfrontier.com/ it's more about group buys so for most items, they might take many many months to reach you.
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finally tested sa profile caps. now i understand why keyboard tests with sa profile caps sounded so nice.

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however, for me, sa profile is so tall it's seriously tiring to type on, even with a wrist rest.
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 2 2018, 06:27 PM)
finally tested sa profile caps. now i understand why keyboard tests with sa profile caps sounded so nice.

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however, for me, sa profile is so tall it's seriously tiring to type on, even with a wrist rest.
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nice nice... the thick high profile SA caps gives out a nice solid *tock* especially if you are using linear switches and have a solid case. As you also noticed now, it's really not the best in terms of typing experience. I also can't get used to the high profile. Anyway, it's really just getting use to them or not only. Maybe the non-sculpted (R3 only) SA profile might be easier to adjust to. Just like the Vortex Vibe Massdrop is currently running: Vortex Vibe

I kinda like the minimalist approach of the Vibe. Very clean and simple design. How I wish it's with Kailh removable sockets built in. hahah... smile.gif
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 3 2018, 11:07 AM)
nice nice... the thick high profile SA caps gives out a nice solid *tock* especially if you are using linear switches and have a solid case. As you also noticed now, it's really not the best in terms of typing experience. I also can't get used to the high profile. Anyway, it's really just getting use to them or not only. Maybe the non-sculpted (R3 only) SA profile might be easier to adjust to. Just like the Vortex Vibe Massdrop is currently running: Vortex Vibe

I kinda like the minimalist approach of the Vibe. Very clean and simple design. How I wish it's with Kailh removable sockets built in. hahah... smile.gif
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yeah i like the key sound a lot. i think you're right about adaptation. let's see i can adapt after a while.

vortex vibe is not my cup of tea. the better form factor for me is 75%, yes, must come with kailh switch sockets lol

edit:

notes - tested krytox gpl 105 for switches (gateron normal red). the application is easier (oil, much easier to spread). it's good for the convenience of lubing switches.

however, essentially, compared to super lube grease, they're the same to me. it's just that for thick lubes you need to control the amount when applied (just very thin layers; always, less is more for switches)

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yeah i like the key sound a lot. i think you're right about adaptation. let's see i can adapt after a while.

vortex vibe is not my cup of tea. the better form factor for me is 75%, yes, must come with kailh switch sockets lol

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notes - tested krytox gpl 105 for switches (gateron normal red). the application is easier (oil, much easier to spread). it's good for the convenience of lubing switches.

however, essentially, compared to super lube grease, they're the same to me. it's just that for thick lubes you need to control the amount when applied (just very thin layers; always, less is more for switches)
nice nice! Got any krytox gpl 105 leftovers willing to let go? I also wanna try try... Got a bunch of Gaterons silent blacks on the way from KBDfans. Will definitely replace the silent reds with them. Right now, only the modifiers are on silent blacks. The reds seems to be a little too light for my typing. Used to be okay but now backside itchy, wanna give the blacks another try. hehehe...

Also bought a wooden GH60 case, DZ60 s.steel plate and some screwed in stabs from KBDfans and YMDK. Spending too much money on this hobby... hahaha... bye.gif
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nice nice! Got any krytox gpl 105 leftovers willing to let go? I also wanna try try... Got a bunch of Gaterons silent blacks on the way from KBDfans. Will definitely replace the silent reds with them. Right now, only the modifiers are on silent blacks. The reds seems to be a little too light for my typing. Used to be okay but now backside itchy, wanna give the blacks another try. hehehe...

Also bought a wooden GH60 case, DZ60 s.steel plate and some screwed in stabs from KBDfans and YMDK. Spending too much money on this hobby... hahaha...  bye.gif
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sweet biggrin.gif

that's one of the board profiles that i wanna build later. still haven't had the time to source for compatible cases that i want.

well yeah it's a hobby so it's worth spending on hehe (especially when there are still so many unknowns in my mind)

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sweet biggrin.gif

that's one of the board profiles that i wanna build later. still haven't had the time to source for compatible cases that i want.

well yeah it's a hobby so it's worth spending on hehe (especially when there are still so many unknowns in my mind)
I don't even know if the GH60 wooden case will fit the DZ60 plate or not. Hopefully everything will workout fine. Else, further wait and parts sourcing again... sigh...
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I don't even know if the GH60 wooden case will fit the DZ60 plate or not. Hopefully everything will workout fine. Else, further wait and parts sourcing again... sigh...
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uh? i believe it will fit. i have checked the top plate layout before. it's actually for generic 60% cases.
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uh? i believe it will fit. i have checked the top plate layout before. it's actually for generic 60% cases.
Alrighty then. Now is the waiting game. In the mean time, I'll keep myself busy with more lubing work. hehe... smile.gif
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Alrighty then. Now is the waiting game. In the mean time, I'll keep myself busy with more lubing work. hehe... smile.gif
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yeah lubing is tedious, but it's worth the efforts for switches and stabs that are not pre-lubed. to me lubing alone is a significant improvement for mkbs, so i die die also must lube lol

i actually suspect varmilo does something to their switches also. all my prebuilts with cherry mx red do not have the same level of smoothness for switches in my varmilo with the same red
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For beginner who first time want to buy MK, which one is better choice? Tecware Phantom or Fuhlen SM680R? Prefer TKL and only this 2 within my budget...
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For beginner who first time want to buy MK, which one is better choice? Tecware Phantom or Fuhlen SM680R? Prefer TKL and only this 2 within my budget...
Without looking further and judging based on the key legends alone, Fuhlen is a BIG NO! haha...
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if possible you should try both out, especially different switch types first (the common ones are linear red, tactile brown, and clicky blue).

between the two i think tecware phantom because it can do switch hot-swapping. (meaning you can replace switches when they are at fault, or swap the whole set with different switch types)

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Without looking further and judging based on the key legends alone, Fuhlen is a BIG NO! haha...
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Was doing my Gateron silent blacks lubing chores last night and then got itchy and tried lubing the Kailh box switches. Really no idea where to lube them. They are really smooth out of the box if compared to Cherry MX or even Gaterons silents (then again, Gateron silents are famous for being scratchy). I tried lubing the side but there's really not much difference before and after. Not quite sure how to get this effect: Kailh box red lubed vs no lubed
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 4 2018, 11:56 AM)
Was doing my Gateron silent blacks lubing chores last night and then got itchy and tried lubing the Kailh box switches. Really no idea where to lube them. They are really smooth out of the box if compared to Cherry MX or even Gaterons silents (then again, Gateron silents are famous for being scratchy). I tried lubing the side but there's really not much difference before and after. Not quite sure how to get this effect: Kailh box red lubed vs no lubed
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Check and lube all contact points and springs. That’s what i did. For testing i even lubed the whole housing walls and all sides of stems.

The outcome: still no difference compared to stock hehe
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The outcome: still no difference compared to stock hehe
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dyammmnnnnnnnnnn... hahaha... Still waiting for someone to make Kailh box silent. hohoh... biggrin.gif
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yes pre-lubed, and have the least wobbles haha so they're all good even at stock. i think it makes sense since they have this ip56 standard to follow. with everything good at stock, users don't need to open them up for lubing, spoiling whatever that meets that standard.

what kailh has done for their box switches are not bad. i also hope kailh box silent come out soon hehe

.. and about spring customization in kailh box, some said you can use alps springs for custom weights.
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notes for gk64 (this applies to all compatible bottom cases): here are some information regarding replacement screws, in case you misplaced them.

1. screw size - for screws that secure top plate to the bottom cases, the stock size is m2*4. you can also use m2*5 and m2*6. (in fact, you should get at least m2*5; i use m2*6 because it fits nicely, and it has more screw threads to secure the parts)

2. screw types - for screws that secure top plate to the bottom cases, you can use either countersunk/flat head type (i.e. the same type as the stock screws), or the ones for securing pcb to the top plate (round headed type). as long as the size is the same as above, they will fit perfectly.

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edit: there are plenty of choices at taobao, and they are very affordable.

the same screws can be used for custom cases, but i guess it depends on the way top plate is mounted. for prebuilt gk64, screws are used to secure top plate + pcb + bottom case (pcb is sandwiched between top plate and bottom case); while for 5-degree case, screws are used to secure pcb + bottom case only. so you will need to use shorter screws (in my case i use m2*5, round headed type like the above)


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anyone know where can i buy vortex pok3r with mx speed silver?
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most probably not locally for relatively rare switches like cherry mx silver. you can always get it online. (try google)
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What's a decent mech keyboard available locally?
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ikbc c-series/f-series; coolermaster masterkeys s pbt
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ikbc c-series/f-series; coolermaster masterkeys s pbt
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The F-series is nice
Now searching for deals
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it's one of the better ones, with double-shot pbt key caps.

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it's one of the better ones, with double-shot pbt key caps.
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Using F108 at home. The keycaps are good thick PBT. However, it's somehow not as nice or solid as some other PBTs that I have. Perhaps it's the OEM profile compared to my others Cherry profile PBTs. The programming is not the easiest to use but it gets the job done. I always keep a copy of the manual in my Google Keep so I can access it anytime anywhere. haha... Built quality is very good. It's plastic but a sturdy and heavy thick plastic. The RGB blingness is on-point. So, no complain there as well. The only part I can complain on is the rattly stabilizers. No matter how much lube I place in there, it's no use. Unless you wanna go the distance and de-solder the board and fix that, else just have to accept it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 6 2018, 10:27 AM)
Using F108 at home. The keycaps are good thick PBT. However, it's somehow not as nice or solid as some other PBTs that I have. Perhaps it's the OEM profile compared to my others Cherry profile PBTs. The programming is not the easiest to use but it gets the job done. I always keep a copy of the manual in my Google Keep so I can access it anytime anywhere. haha... Built quality is very good. It's plastic but a sturdy and heavy thick plastic. The RGB blingness is on-point. So, no complain there as well. The only part I can complain on is the rattly stabilizers. No matter how much lube I place in there, it's no use. Unless you wanna go the distance and de-solder the board and fix that, else just have to accept it. smile.gif
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What other MK do you use?
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ummm... GK64 is my main driver now. F108 for home use. Then a few more retired in the cupboard. hahaha... >_<
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 6 2018, 10:27 AM)
Using F108 at home. The keycaps are good thick PBT. However, it's somehow not as nice or solid as some other PBTs that I have. Perhaps it's the OEM profile compared to my others Cherry profile PBTs. The programming is not the easiest to use but it gets the job done. I always keep a copy of the manual in my Google Keep so I can access it anytime anywhere. haha... Built quality is very good. It's plastic but a sturdy and heavy thick plastic. The RGB blingness is on-point. So, no complain there as well. The only part I can complain on is the rattly stabilizers. No matter how much lube I place in there, it's no use. Unless you wanna go the distance and de-solder the board and fix that, else just have to accept it. smile.gif
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a nice review smile.gif

the rattly space bar on my f87 (cherry mx red and black) is my only complaint. (my vortex pok3r have the same issue) however compared to my other prebuilts that have rattly stabs, ikbc's stabs and space bar are relatively less rattly.

about the caps, it's oem profile. it's not so nice when you're used to cherry profile caps.
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the rattly space bar on my f87 (cherry mx red and black) is my only complaint. (my vortex pok3r have the same issue) however compared to my other prebuilts that have rattly stabs, ikbc's stabs and space bar are relatively less rattly.
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ahhh... perhaps so. My previous Ducky Zero that I sold to my friend have a very rattly spacebar. Basically every keys with stabilizers are very rattly. Yes, it's worst than iKBC.
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 6 2018, 11:29 AM)
ahhh... perhaps so. My previous Ducky Zero that I sold to my friend have a very rattly spacebar. Basically every keys with stabilizers are very rattly. Yes, it's worst than iKBC.
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about ducky zero, i can confirm this because i have one too. it’s terrible. i blame that zero because i will not get another ducky anymore.

personally for prebuilts with overall build qualities, i will stick to varmilo. i will get a few variants for collections later (hopefully their rgb versions are really on the way)
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.. some how it's nicer to type with sa profile key caps with heavier switches than red. did a brief search and found similar suggestions.

really didn't see this coming actually.



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Hi sifus,

Any idea which wristrest fit IKBC F108? Is the Razor wristrest suitable? The razer is really comfortable imo.

Btw, thank you horns for the IKBC recommendation! biggrin.gif loving the keyboard but the rgb abit dim.
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QUOTE(charsiupau @ Apr 7 2018, 01:29 PM)
Hi sifus,

Any idea which wristrest fit IKBC F108? Is the Razor wristrest suitable? The razer is really comfortable imo.

Btw, thank you [email=horns]horns[/email] for the IKBC recommendation! biggrin.gif loving the keyboard but the rgb abit dim.
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no problem. it's a minor trade-off: due to the nature of pbt, the rgb lighting effects are relatively dimmer than abs. if you liked brighter lighting effects, you can replace the stock caps with double-shot abs.

any full-size wrist rest should be fine for ikbc f108. it's really up to your preference.
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ahhh... perhaps so. My previous Ducky Zero that I sold to my friend have a very rattly spacebar. Basically every keys with stabilizers are very rattly. Yes, it's worst than iKBC.
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iKBC is far best China board already.. They always provide something that very worth like 2 sets doubleshot PBT with keyboard, and cheaper price and good quality.
Expected from a growing brand that existed more than 10 years.

Ducky Zero really a budget keyboard, like hit or miss. Some you will encounter very nice 1.
Older Ducky Zero, are better build. For now, I no comments since the current price can be lower than iKBC. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Apr 9 2018, 07:50 AM)
iKBC is far best China board already.. They always provide something that very worth like 2 sets doubleshot PBT with keyboard, and cheaper price and good quality.
Expected from a growing brand that existed more than 10 years.

Ducky Zero really a budget keyboard, like hit or miss. Some you will encounter very nice 1.
Older Ducky Zero, are better build. For now, I no comments since the current price can be lower than iKBC.  rclxub.gif
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oh ducky zero is considered a budget board, no wonder smile.gif then i hope that it's the last one from ducky that sucks.

sometimes it's not really about price. i rather pay extra to get boards with good modifiers and space bar. (especially when the price gap is just like myr 50+)





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oh ducky zero is considered a budget board, no wonder smile.gif then i hope that it's the last one from ducky that sucks.

sometimes it's not really about price. i rather pay extra to get boards with good modifiers and space bar. (especially when the price gap is just like myr 50+)
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Ducky Zero = China
Ducky One = Taiwan
Ducky Shine (Flagship) = Taiwan
Year of the (Chinese Zodiac), Shine Variation = Taiwan

Every brand also have cheap to expensive boards.. Budget boards normally use cheaper material cost, and hand solder.
Expensive board, PCB they use machine solder and double layer PCB. Ducky Zero not that bad, after you compare other budget boards..

Imagine you buy a budget board, switch stem break, keycaps leg break.. keyboard like goyang here and there..
Then you get Ducky Zero, like "Wah, what a big upgrade with similar price".

But, if you always use expensive boards, of course you feel meh towards Ducky Zero.
Keyboards always bottom-to-top only enjoy. smile.gif
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Apr 9 2018, 11:58 AM)
Ducky Zero = China
Ducky One = Taiwan
Ducky Shine (Flagship) = Taiwan
Year of the (Chinese Zodiac), Shine Variation = Taiwan

Every brand also have cheap to expensive boards.. Budget boards normally use cheaper material cost, and hand solder.
Expensive board, PCB they use machine solder and double layer PCB. Ducky Zero not that bad, after you compare other budget boards..

Imagine you buy a budget board, switch stem break, keycaps leg break.. keyboard like goyang here and there..
Then you get Ducky Zero, like "Wah, what a big upgrade with similar price".

But, if you always use expensive boards, of course you feel meh towards Ducky Zero.
Keyboards always bottom-to-top only enjoy. smile.gif
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nice thanks a lot for the clarification about ducky's boards. yeah most brands have different models to cover different budgets.

i still keep ducky zero untouched as reference for now. it's a perfect example of crappy space bar.

tbh better prebuilts are not necessarily expensive at stock (e.g. filco, varmilo, ikbc). they get expensive only when you customize them haha

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Apr 9 2018, 11:58 AM)
Ducky Zero = China
Ducky One = Taiwan
Ducky Shine (Flagship) = Taiwan
Year of the (Chinese Zodiac), Shine Variation = Taiwan

Every brand also have cheap to expensive boards.. Budget boards normally use cheaper material cost, and hand solder.
Expensive board, PCB they use machine solder and double layer PCB. Ducky Zero not that bad, after you compare other budget boards..

Imagine you buy a budget board, switch stem break, keycaps leg break.. keyboard like goyang here and there..
Then you get Ducky Zero, like "Wah, what a big upgrade with similar price".

But, if you always use expensive boards, of course you feel meh towards Ducky Zero.
Keyboards always bottom-to-top only enjoy. smile.gif
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hahaha... true true... must got from bottom to top. Else really feel meh. hahah...
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does anybody ever buy a keyboard from winkeyless.kr? I went to the website n fell in love immediately with their design.. do the website offers a service where they build it for us or do we need to assemble the keyboard ourselves? really dun und anything from the website xD
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does anybody ever buy a keyboard from winkeyless.kr? I went to the website n fell in love immediately with their design.. do the website offers a service where they build it for us or do we need to assemble the keyboard ourselves? really dun und anything from the website xD
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afaik they offer such a build service, e.g. http://winkeyless.kr/forums/topic/assembly-service-b87-x2/

you can always contact them to confirm.
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does anybody ever buy a keyboard from winkeyless.kr? I went to the website n fell in love immediately with their design.. do the website offers a service where they build it for us or do we need to assemble the keyboard ourselves? really dun und anything from the website xD
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I'd like to promote my self. I can build it for you for cheaper price. biggrin.gif
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finally switch testers with varmilo's ec switches are out. there are current three types of ec switches, sakura - linear, rose - heavier linear and ivy - tactile and clicky. maybe boards with these switches are coming soon biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 9 2018, 05:58 PM)
afaik they offer such a build service, e.g. http://winkeyless.kr/forums/topic/assembly-service-b87-x2/

you can always contact them to confirm.
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oO.. how cheap?

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it's always nice to type on a filco.

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this was a used board when i bought it years ago. still rocking like nobody's business biggrin.gif
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Just got my first Topre today. Oh boy it felt so good to type on. Decided to go with the HHKB Pro 2 instead for budget and personal reasons.

Thanks Store Uni quovadis123 for making this happen. His swift and exceptional services had made this possible.
Would recommend anyone to purchase from there. Really fast delivery and good customer services.

Really enjoying the keyboard. It feels like MX Brown, but with a greater tactility, but in an acceptable amount, and the force is towards the top rather than middle of the keystroke, making you to feel and enjoy every key press. Now I can understand why people love them.

Well time to make up the keyboard then xD

Here's two pictures to share with all of you.

Thank again quovadis123!

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QUOTE(myd51rl21v @ Apr 10 2018, 04:26 PM)
Just got my first Topre today. Oh boy it felt so good to type on. Decided to go with the HHKB Pro 2 instead for budget and personal reasons.

Thanks Store Uni quovadis123 for making this happen. His swift and exceptional services had made this possible.
Would recommend anyone to purchase from there. Really fast delivery and good customer services.

Really enjoying the keyboard. It feels like MX Brown, but with a greater tactility, but in an acceptable amount, and the force is towards the top rather than middle of the keystroke, making you to feel and enjoy every key press. Now I can understand why people love them.

Well time to make up the keyboard then xD

Here's two pictures to share with all of you.

Thank again quovadis123!

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wooahhhhhhh... TMR... Topre Master Race! hahaha... Enjoy your new keyboard dude! smile.gif
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QUOTE(myd51rl21v @ Apr 10 2018, 04:26 PM)
Just got my first Topre today. Oh boy it felt so good to type on. Decided to go with the HHKB Pro 2 instead for budget and personal reasons.

Thanks Store Uni quovadis123 for making this happen. His swift and exceptional services had made this possible.
Would recommend anyone to purchase from there. Really fast delivery and good customer services.

Really enjoying the keyboard. It feels like MX Brown, but with a greater tactility, but in an acceptable amount, and the force is towards the top rather than middle of the keystroke, making you to feel and enjoy every key press. Now I can understand why people love them.

Well time to make up the keyboard then xD

Here's two pictures to share with all of you.

Thank again quovadis123!

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sweet smile.gif

storeuni.com is one of the better shops that i know of for offering great services. that's why i keep recommending it instead of others smile.gif (just bought something from there too lol)




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QUOTE(myd51rl21v @ Apr 10 2018, 04:26 PM)
Just got my first Topre today. Oh boy it felt so good to type on. Decided to go with the HHKB Pro 2 instead for budget and personal reasons.

Thanks Store Uni quovadis123 for making this happen. His swift and exceptional services had made this possible.
Would recommend anyone to purchase from there. Really fast delivery and good customer services.

Really enjoying the keyboard. It feels like MX Brown, but with a greater tactility, but in an acceptable amount, and the force is towards the top rather than middle of the keystroke, making you to feel and enjoy every key press. Now I can understand why people love them.

Well time to make up the keyboard then xD

Here's two pictures to share with all of you.

Thank again quovadis123!

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Thanks bro laugh.gif
Welcome to the master race Topre!
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Just a Norbatouch (Norbauer case + novatouch), with KBDfans Silence-X silencing rings + Enjoypbt Cyrillic Red keycaps. My current main keyboard setup while waiting for Exent (with lubed zealios) to arrive soon-ish.
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 10 2018, 10:31 PM)
Just a Norbatouch (Norbauer case + novatouch), with KBDfans Silence-X silencing rings + Enjoypbt Cyrillic Red keycaps. My current main keyboard setup while waiting for Exent (with lubed zealios) to arrive soon-ish.
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Legend board..

If this novatouch no stocks in malaysia last time, will you import the novatouch and norbauer ?
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 10 2018, 10:31 PM)
Just a Norbatouch (Norbauer case + novatouch), with KBDfans Silence-X silencing rings + Enjoypbt Cyrillic Red keycaps. My current main keyboard setup while waiting for Exent (with lubed zealios) to arrive soon-ish.
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as always, a very nice looking case smile.gif

.. if only i can appreciate topre boards like you guys do. they are really not my cup of tea for now

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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 10 2018, 04:47 PM)
wooahhhhhhh... TMR... Topre Master Race! hahaha... Enjoy your new keyboard dude! smile.gif
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Thank you bro.

QUOTE(horns @ Apr 10 2018, 06:15 PM)
sweet smile.gif

storeuni.com is one of the better shops that i know of for offering great services. that's why i keep recommending it instead of others smile.gif (just bought something from there too lol)
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Well I didn't knew about Store Uni until I posted here.
And luckily I did that.

Well if anyone need anything for a keyboard, I would recommend them Store Uni.
Most of the normal stuff that people need they have it.

Artisan or what not you will have to still buy from others lol

QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Apr 10 2018, 07:16 PM)
Thanks bro  laugh.gif
Welcome to the master race Topre!
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Thank you brotha for making this happen thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Well I didn't knew about Store Uni until I posted here.
And luckily I did that.

Well if anyone need anything for a keyboard, I would recommend them Store Uni.
Most of the normal stuff that people need they have it.

Artisan or what not you will have to still buy from others lol

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haha nice. one more thing: sometimes, they do give us customers surprises smile.gif

yeah for other custom stuff we can always get them from else where.

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Massdrop - Glorious Modular Keyboard (Gateron Browns)

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/glorious-modul...d-gateron-brown

another hot-swappable design; ends in 6 days.

edit: varmilo's panda is officially on the shelf also. usb-type c; cherry mx switches: red, black, brown, blue, silent red, silent black, silver and clears.

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My Massdrop order of GMK stabilizers (plate and pcb screw mount) are finally here. Right off the bat, I can notice the difference compared to the cheaper Chinese knock-offs. The metal shaft is almost surely thicker. The plastic bits are more solid and made with more precision. Hence less movement between the parts.

I removed my heavily lubed and clipped knock-offs and swapped in the non-lubed and non-clipped genuine stabs for a quick comparison. It's obvious now, no matter how cheap those Chinese variants are, IF you can get your hands on the genuine ones then please do that. Even without lubing, it's already out performing the knock-offs. Now I can't wait to lube these and give it a proper go. smile.gif
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Some nice stuffs in KBDfans.

PUBG fans rejoice.
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival

That EnjoyPBT 9009 set is tasty!
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/...009-keycaps-set
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 11 2018, 05:58 PM)
My Massdrop order of GMK stabilizers (plate and pcb screw mount) are finally here. Right off the bat, I can notice the difference compared to the cheaper Chinese knock-offs. The metal shaft is almost surely thicker. The plastic bits are more solid and made with more precision. Hence less movement between the parts.

I removed my heavily lubed and clipped knock-offs and swapped in the non-lubed and non-clipped genuine stabs for a quick comparison. It's obvious now, no matter how cheap those Chinese variants are, IF you can get your hands on the genuine ones then please do that. Even without lubing, it's already out performing the knock-offs. Now I can't wait to lube these and give it a proper go. smile.gif
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damn i missed that drop :/

yeah it's that bad for the stock stabs in gk64 haha luckily it's easy to replace.

QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 11 2018, 06:00 PM)
Some nice stuffs in KBDfans.

PUBG fans rejoice.
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival

That EnjoyPBT 9009 set is tasty!
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/...009-keycaps-set
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yeah i have ordered the epbt 9009 lol
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.. just found out one of the tiny white bumps at the stem side of gateron silent black was detached partially. no wonder that key always sounded a bit weird to me.

maybe it's a defective stem that i didn't notice when i lubed the switches.
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 11 2018, 05:58 PM)
My Massdrop order of GMK stabilizers (plate and pcb screw mount) are finally here. Right off the bat, I can notice the difference compared to the cheaper Chinese knock-offs. The metal shaft is almost surely thicker. The plastic bits are more solid and made with more precision. Hence less movement between the parts.

I removed my heavily lubed and clipped knock-offs and swapped in the non-lubed and non-clipped genuine stabs for a quick comparison. It's obvious now, no matter how cheap those Chinese variants are, IF you can get your hands on the genuine ones then please do that. Even without lubing, it's already out performing the knock-offs. Now I can't wait to lube these and give it a proper go. smile.gif
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just a curious question,

would u clip your GMK stab? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Apr 12 2018, 04:33 PM)
just a curious question,

would u clip your GMK stab?  hmm.gif
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I will be clipping them. Didn't managed to get them done last night. Hopefully tonight I can get them done. smile.gif

From the brief test previously, the rattling is definitely not there but the mushiness is. I did have band-aid on my PCB. Perhaps that did add to the mushiness.

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I will be clipping them. Didn't managed to get them done last night. Hopefully tonight I can get them done. smile.gif

From the brief test previously, the rattling is definitely not there but the mushiness is. I did have band-aid on my PCB. Perhaps that did add to the mushiness.
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all my gk64 are with band-aid. i also painted a thin layer of thick lube on the band-aids lol

screw-in pcb mount stabs are solid smile.gif

edit: please share with us notes about building a custom gk64 with wooden cases. still not sure which wooden case to get. i saw one with cover that can be used as wrist rest. would like to give it a go.

after va87m with cherry mx black, i will get another va87m with cherry mx silent black. that almost completes my collection of varmilo boards with cherry mx switches that i want most smile.gif

.. and by then i am officially mkb 20++ (very insignificant if compared to the guy who owns 600+ mkbs)

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Legend board..

If this novatouch no stocks in malaysia last time, will you import the novatouch and norbauer ?
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 12 2018, 05:12 PM)
I will be clipping them. Didn't managed to get them done last night. Hopefully tonight I can get them done. smile.gif

From the brief test previously, the rattling is definitely not there but the mushiness is. I did have band-aid on my PCB. Perhaps that did add to the mushiness.
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thanks for the input.
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this is final for this filco majestouch 2 yellow tkl; cherry mx red, lubed costar stabs, cherry-profile double-shot pbt thick caps, aluminum case, detachable cable mod.

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 13 2018, 02:00 PM)
this is final for this filco majestouch 2 yellow tkl; cherry mx red, lubed costar stabs, cherry-profile double-shot pbt thick caps, aluminum case, detachable cable mod.

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legendary board.. What case is this ? norbatouch?
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 13 2018, 02:00 PM)
this is final for this filco majestouch 2 yellow tkl; cherry mx red, lubed costar stabs, cherry-profile double-shot pbt thick caps, aluminum case, detachable cable mod.

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Very nice and clean! Great stuff bro! smile.gif
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legendary board.. What case is this ? norbatouch?
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.. and it's filco's finest to me.

no, the case is not norbauer anything. just a chinese-made generic cnc aluminum case.

i will give my novatouch a better case smile.gif i will slowly fix all the prebuilts that i have, and give them better looks (hopefully)

QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 13 2018, 02:06 PM)
Very nice and clean! Great stuff bro! smile.gif
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thanks hehe

this board is one of my favorites for typing, strictly for typing only

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this is super nice biggrin.gif

edit: i'm getting used to sa profile. so.. i will start with maxkey hehe

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whooahhhhh... tasty! Very clean!  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 13 2018, 05:59 PM)
this is super nice biggrin.gif

edit: i'm getting used to sa profile. so.. i will start with maxkey hehe

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Thanks.

For some reason, using SA keycaps on Novatouch produce more tactile feedback and feel heavier than using the stock abs/enjoypbt keycaps. Weird and ironic considering SP SA keycaps are noticeably heavier in weight n in theory should absorb the tactility and the weight of the topre domes.
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Thanks.

For some reason, using SA keycaps on Novatouch produce more tactile feedback and feel heavier than using the stock abs/enjoypbt keycaps. Weird and ironic considering SP SA keycaps are noticeably heavier in weight n in theory should absorb the tactility and the weight of the topre domes.
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thanks for this tip. right, that's like counter-physics. it's supposed to suppress tactile feedback more to me. i'm going to test this part later.

after using sa profile caps i found that it's better to use them for heavier switches. i'm now ok to type on black for long hours. (must use wrist rest; sa profile is damn tall)

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 14 2018, 03:43 PM)
thanks for this tip. right, that's like counter-physics. it's supposed to suppress tactile feedback more to me. i'm going to test this part later.

after using sa profile caps i found that it's better to use them for heavier switches. i'm now ok to type on black for long hours. (must use wrist rest; sa profile is damn tall)
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Yes. I have this feeling as well. Not sure if it's "placebo effect" or not but you can kinda feel the key press quite significantly. Maybe it's the sound of the heavy "thock" making this feeling. Sound wise it's really nice. I like the look and sound of SA caps. However, I don't rest my wrist when I am typing. Yup, can't say I have a proper way of typing as well. hahah... So, maybe because of that also, I really cannot stand typing on SA for long period. Wrist rest or not, it's just too tiring for me. rclxub.gif
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I really love how DSA keycaps look but I really could not get used to the typing with the shape like that on my Race 3.
So compromises had to be made bye.gif

This pic is my Vortex Pok3r's original keycaps and I decided to test fit on my Race 3 to see how does it feel.
So much more comfortable!!! Gonna find grey OEM profile keycaps on this one day.
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Okay, finally done with the lubing and clipping of my new stabs. They are really as you all said, SIGNIFICANTLY better than those knock offs. Can't compare. Visually you can see some difference with the plastic. It's slightly more "matte" finish compared to a more glossy finish on those knock offs. The more obvious difference is when you insert them on the board. It's a lot more tighter to insert them on my GK64. Previously, I can almost slide them in. Now, I need to use force to push them in. My space bar had never felt so good before. It's definitely not cheap but worth every penny spent! smile.gif
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 14 2018, 04:11 PM)
Yes. I have this feeling as well. Not sure if it's "placebo effect" or not but you can kinda feel the key press quite significantly. Maybe it's the sound of the heavy "thock" making this feeling. Sound wise it's really nice. I like the look and sound of SA caps. However, I don't rest my wrist when I am typing. Yup, can't say I have a proper way of typing as well. hahah... So, maybe because of that also, I really cannot stand typing on SA for long period. Wrist rest or not, it's just too tiring for me.  rclxub.gif
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oh. there must be something that amplify the effects i guess. actually until now i don't quite notice tactile feedback when i type on novatouch. maybe i didn't pay too much attention, or maybe it's because i'm not touch typing on them. personally i'm annoyed by spring noise in novatouch and fc660c. maybe i really need something like silencer-x first. i do feel the part that keys are like 'sticky'. (this is the same when i type on leopold fc660c) i will reapply krytox grease on fc660c later, to see if there are changes.

right the look and sound of sa caps are nice. i rest my wrists when typing (more comfortable). wrist rest is a must for sa profile caps for me lol

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I really love how DSA keycaps look but I really could not get used to the typing with the shape like that on my Race 3.
So compromises had to be made  bye.gif

This pic is my Vortex Pok3r's original keycaps and I decided to test fit on my Race 3 to see how does it feel.
So much more comfortable!!! Gonna find grey OEM profile keycaps on this one day.
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i guess it's just personal preference. i also find myself making adjustments when i use dsa caps.

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thanks for this tip. right, that's like counter-physics. it's supposed to suppress tactile feedback more to me. i'm going to test this part later.

after using sa profile caps i found that it's better to use them for heavier switches. i'm now ok to type on black for long hours. (must use wrist rest; sa profile is damn tall)
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Yea. I see a lot of people recommending SA keycaps for Box Navy

Anyway, im planning to buy BKE domes as the final upgrade for my Norbatouch. Inspiration from this video:


General consensus is that BKE dome is very different from normal topre domes and very tactile. Some compare it to Navy without the clicky noise. Some like them, some dont really like them due to the fact that they are very different from Topre feel. Im on the side that thinks topre domes r a bit overrated if you leave the keyboard at stock, and I desire more tactile feedback. Lubing + silencing is a must imo, especially on novatouch.

only then i'll move on to other/new keyboards. Next target most likely 5 degree frosted + DZ60 + Brass plate + linear switches (most likely box black) or good silent switches.

In the meantime, im currently waiting for my Exent to arrive (after multiple lengthy delays). Ordered the premium kit with brass plate and gmk keycaps. The gmk keycaps bundle is the one causing lengthy delay due to....reasons... The board itself is already soldered with lubed R8 Zealios 67g + 78g on arrow keys by a friend of mine who is close with the TGR guys (the ones that organized the group buy). Hopefully the keyboard can be sent by this monday.
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 14 2018, 04:36 PM)
Okay, finally done with the lubing and clipping of my new stabs. They are really as you all said, SIGNIFICANTLY better than those knock offs. Can't compare. Visually you can see some difference with the plastic. It's slightly more "matte" finish compared to a more glossy finish on those knock offs. The more obvious difference is when you insert them on the board. It's a lot more tighter to insert them on my GK64. Previously, I can almost slide them in. Now, I need to use force to push them in. My space bar had never felt so good before. It's definitely not cheap but worth every penny spent! smile.gif
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stock stabs for gk64 is really bad. another chinese-made stabs that i'm currently using is better than them.

thanks for this tip. i will look for gmk stabs for future builds.
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 14 2018, 09:27 PM)
Yea. I see a lot of people recommending SA keycaps for Box Navy

Anyway, im planning to buy BKE domes as the final upgrade for my Norbatouch. Inspiration from this video:


General consensus is that BKE dome is very different from normal topre domes and very tactile. Some compare it to Navy without the clicky noise. Some like them, some dont really like them due to the fact that they are very different from Topre feel. Im on the side that thinks topre domes r a bit overrated if you leave the keyboard at stock, and I desire more tactile feedback. Lubing + silencing is a must imo, especially on novatouch.

only then i'll move on to other/new keyboards. Next target most likely 5 degree frosted + DZ60 + Brass plate + linear switches (most likely box black) or good silent switches.

In the meantime, im currently waiting for my Exent to arrive (after multiple lengthy delays). Ordered the premium kit with brass plate and gmk keycaps. The gmk keycaps bundle is the one causing lengthy delay due to....reasons...  The board itself is already soldered with lubed R8 Zealios 67g + 78g on arrow keys by a friend of mine who is close with the TGR guys (the ones that organized the group buy). Hopefully the keyboard can be sent by this monday.
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ah by the look at the two rings in the video i know it's from nathan kim lol

well, i don't pay much attention on topre mods. i heard about bke domes before so thanks a lot of your insights. yeah i personally thought the same about novatouch at stock state (i still leave it at stock state for now)

i have lubed my fc660c. it's more quiet and smooth now, but i still think it can be further improved. to me, the one problem with topre boards is the 'sticky' keys. what i mean is the part when i press the keys down, it's like there is no push-up force, unless i actually lift my fingers up. maybe this is topre, and i'm too used to cherry mx style switches. (i feel the push-up force even with red)

the aluminum 5-degree is a nice case. i also plan to get a acrylic version. with acrylic and wooden cases, my tests on different case types should be completed hehe
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Saw these 2 bottles of WD-40 while shopping for some other stuff at the local hardware store. Was wondering if any of them are safe to be used as switch lube? unsure.gif


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Saw these 2 bottles of WD-40 while shopping for some other stuff at the local hardware store. Was wondering if any of them are safe to be used as switch lube? unsure.gif
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from the specs, the one with ptfe should be ok to use. however, these are spray cans. imo it might not be optimal, because you might not be able to control the amount you use in switches or stabs. it will spread everywhere, which you might not want.

in general the better method to lube is still brush + oil for switches. (much easier to control the amount to apply; you only need a thin layer at contact points only). for stabs, use thick lubes.

if you're in acehardware, you can look for Super Lube 21030 for stabs. Super Lube grease is less thicker than krytox 205, so it's relatively easier to spread with brush. (i used this for switches also; this is not recommended by many sifus so do it at your own risks)
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Saw these 2 bottles of WD-40 while shopping for some other stuff at the local hardware store. Was wondering if any of them are safe to be used as switch lube? unsure.gif
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not recommended.
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2018, 02:20 PM)
from the specs, the one with ptfe should be ok to use. however, these are spray cans. imo it might not be optimal, because you might not be able to control the amount you use in switches or stabs. it will spread everywhere, which you might not want.

in general the better method to lube is still brush + oil for switches. (much easier to control the amount to apply; you only need a thin layer at contact points only). for stabs, use thick lubes.

if you're in acehardware, you can look for Super Lube 21030 for stabs. Super Lube grease is less thicker than krytox 205, so it's relatively easier to spread with brush. (i used this for switches also; this is not recommended by many sifus so do it at your own risks)
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Thanks for your insights, finally something more usable compared to the FB group. I don't plan to spray the lubricants on, but more like, wondering if it's suitable. My technique, if they are suitable, would be something I learn from Spray Painting spray cans, that is, to spray them into a container, then use a brush or applicator to apply them onto the areas needed instead. Just worried that they ain't exactly plastic safe, coz they aren't cheap, around RM30/can.

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not recommended.
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How so? Just because of the name "WD40"? It's NOT the regular Mineral Oil ones, the thing that raised my curiosity was the "PTFE"
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Apr 15 2018, 05:40 PM)
Thanks for your insights, finally something more usable compared to the FB group. I don't plan to spray the lubricants on, but more like, wondering if it's suitable. My technique, if they are suitable, would be something I learn from Spray Painting spray cans, that is, to spray them into a container, then use a brush or applicator to apply them onto the areas needed instead. Just worried that they ain't exactly plastic safe, coz they aren't cheap, around RM30/can.
How so? Just because of the name "WD40"? It's NOT the regular Mineral Oil ones, the thing that raised my curiosity was the "PTFE"
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the sprays dry quite quickly (in seconds), and it's said to be plastic-safe, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yatZaMrjzkQ

it's relatively cheaper tbh, compared to those recommended lubes like krytox mixtures.


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QUOTE(GRexer @ Apr 15 2018, 05:40 PM)
Thanks for your insights, finally something more usable compared to the FB group. I don't plan to spray the lubricants on, but more like, wondering if it's suitable. My technique, if they are suitable, would be something I learn from Spray Painting spray cans, that is, to spray them into a container, then use a brush or applicator to apply them onto the areas needed instead. Just worried that they ain't exactly plastic safe, coz they aren't cheap, around RM30/can.
How so? Just because of the name "WD40"? It's NOT the regular Mineral Oil ones, the thing that raised my curiosity was the "PTFE"
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https://imgur.com/a/lhLqo

you can go thru this album. Might be useful.

I'd rather go for something a bit more expensive like Krytox mix or one of those prepackaged mech keyboard switches lubes rather than putting something that can potentially damage expensive switches. Some dry up quicker, some leaves unwanted residue, some damages the plastic housing/metal leafs/springs.

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 15 2018, 06:15 PM)
https://imgur.com/a/lhLqo

you can go thru this album. Might be useful.

I'd rather go for something a bit more expensive like Krytox mix or one of those prepackaged mech keyboard switches lubes rather than putting something that can potentially damage expensive switches. Some dry up quicker, some leaves unwanted residue, some damages the plastic housing/metal leafs/springs.
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agreed. for permanent builds, it's better to use better lubes, oil or grease, that have much better service life, and are safe for expensive switches and parts.

practically, cheap lubes do work. however they are usually considered as less optimal. i already have krytox oil and grease (105 and 205)


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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 15 2018, 05:52 PM)
the sprays dry quite quickly (in seconds), and it's said to be plastic-safe, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yatZaMrjzkQ

it's relatively cheaper tbh, compared to those recommended lubes like krytox mixtures.
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It is supposed to dry quickly, and leave behind a film of PTFE. Yes, it's cheaper than the Krytox, but more importantly, easily obtainable, if it works, that is.


QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 15 2018, 06:15 PM)
https://imgur.com/a/lhLqo

you can go thru this album. Might be useful.

I'd rather go for something a bit more expensive like Krytox mix or one of those prepackaged mech keyboard switches lubes rather than putting something that can potentially damage expensive switches. Some dry up quicker, some leaves unwanted residue, some damages the plastic housing/metal leafs/springs.
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Thanks for the link. Had gone thru the album, but just feel that none of the items are any easily obtained in Malaysia, which is why I'm searching for alternatives as I can't really wait for the lub to arrive before assembling my set. Which is why the search for alternatives.

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agreed. for permanent builds, it's better to use better lubes, oil or grease, that have much better service life, and are safe for expensive switches and parts.

practically, cheap lubes do work. however they are usually considered as less optimal. i already have krytox oil and grease (105 and 205)
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Mind if I ask where did you get the Krytox 105 from? Online order I suppose? I agree the part where you said "cheap lubes do work, but less optimal (and might need re-application)"

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It is supposed to dry quickly, and leave behind a film of PTFE. Yes, it's cheaper than the Krytox, but more importantly, easily obtainable, if it works, that is.

Thanks for the link. Had gone thru the album, but just feel that none of the items are any easily obtained in Malaysia, which is why I'm searching for alternatives as I can't really wait for the lub to arrive before assembling my set. Which is why the search for alternatives.

Mind if I ask where did you get the Krytox 105 from? Online order I suppose? I agree the part where you said "cheap lubes do work, but less optimal (and might need re-application)"
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it does leave a film. however it's really not easy to apply because it really dry up quickly. i have spoiled switches so just now i went to acehardware, got a can of wd-ptfe spray for simple experiments. (i use it for other purposes also)

i got my krytox lubes from taobao. yes, re-application if and when necessary.

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it does leave a film. however it's really not easy to apply because it really dry up quickly. i have spoiled switches so just now i went to acehardware, got a can of wd-ptfe spray for simple experiments. (i use it for other purposes also)

i got my krytox lubes from taobao. yes, re-application if and when necessary.
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Oh.. So you went to try it out at Ace Hardware just now? Thanks for letting me know. It seems that further reading does indicate that dry lube does wear out over time and hence needing to re-applying.

Care to link me on those Taobao Krytox? Gonna get some stuff anything, might as well ship it along.
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Oh.. So you went to try it out at Ace Hardware just now? Thanks for letting me know. It seems that further reading does indicate that dry lube does wear out over time and hence needing to re-applying.

Care to link me on those Taobao Krytox? Gonna get some stuff anything, might as well ship it along.
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yes they will eventually wear out. i think it's the same for krytox, but it just take longer time to wear them out.
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https://www.ikbckeyboard.com/downloads

just updated my ikbc f87 rgb to the latest 1.1.18.

not sure what's changed, because there are no release notes. use it at your own risks. if you're unsure, DO NOT attempt it, as it might brick your board (and i'm not sure how to recover from bricked boards)


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Anybody knows where i can get some plate mounted cherry stabs?

Just ordered a GMMK and heard that the stabs are pretty rattly.
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Anybody knows where i can get some plate mounted cherry stabs?

Just ordered a GMMK and heard that the stabs are pretty rattly.
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you can find genuine plate-mount cherry stabs at ebay.

edit: forgot to mention this - for genuine cherry stabs, imo it's better to source from ebay (relatively cheaper; from sellers like doyu studio; i got few sets from them too)

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After using OEM keycaps onto my Vortex Race 3 in hopes that I type better, even I find something was wrong with my typing after a week of typing.
Mind you, I type a lot on my Ducky One, and Pok3r. So it really felt off to me.

I decided to put back my original DSA caps on them and started reevaluating and I found out that the keyboard height was too low for me.
Then it hit me! I decided to put raise the board by wedging a phone casing at the back at the board to increase the angle and I found out I was right.

So my question is.

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Where on earth can I find a higher screw-able feet for this?
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After using OEM keycaps onto my Vortex Race 3 in hopes that I type better, even I find something was wrong with my typing after a week of typing.
Mind you, I type a lot on my Ducky One, and Pok3r. So it really felt off to me.

I decided to put back my original DSA caps on them and started reevaluating and I found out that the keyboard height was too low for me.
Then it hit me! I decided to put raise the board by wedging a phone casing at the back at the board to increase the angle and I found out I was right.

So my question is.

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Where on earth can I find a higher screw-able feet for this?
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afaik the cone feet at taobao are of standard height, and the way they're secured is different.


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* i do use others' posts for better illustrations. all credits to the original content owners.

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this is the brief walk-through on how to build your own 60% custom CIY/modular boards with arrow keys from scratch, based on a gk64 pcb. the final build of mine is like this:

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in general, the main advantages of a CIY/modular board are that it makes custom board building very convenient to anyone (i.e. you can enhance the board further with switches and stabs of your choice, applying mods, etc., with minimal efforts). it provides on-the-fly switch hot swapping, so it's very convenient to replace faulty switches, or try out lubed and mixed switches, or swap all switches with other sets.

60% is a custom option that has the most diversified choices of parts, including switches, cases, plates, and stabilizers, compared to other form factors. here is the best part: one of the more common and affordable pcbs for 60% customs is the dz60 pcb. with this pcb, you can basically build a permanently soldered custom, with gk64 layout. however there are things that are available on gk64 pcb, but not on dz60, e.g. dz60 has no per-key smd leds (you can install led on each switch), while it has smd leds at the bottom side (for under-glow effects).

note that i'm not comparing this to custom boards with soldered switches. imo soldered builds are still the best option for custom boards, because soldered switches provides additionally solid reinforcement of physical structure to a board in the long run. however, i think a modular board is much better than key switch testers, so as to give a better idea to individuals on the actual typing experience (with a functional board), before you decided to use the combos in permanent builds, with higher-end and more expensive parts.

for assembly of this custom build with gk64 pcb, you just need three tools:
1. keycap puller
2. switch puller, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=542535561635
3. a philips-head screw driver (a cheap box set found in computer shops will also do the jobs fine)

base parts that you need (sources: taobao, kbdfans, kprepublic; you should source for possible cheaper parts from elsewhere also)
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just like any other soldered custom builds, you can get these parts at your own pace. once the parts are complete, you can go ahead and complete the assembly.

the assembly process is simple, and very straight forward (with some basic mods to make it relatively better)
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that's about it actually. usually you can complete all the above in under 15 minutes, or less. (if you minus time-consuming tasks like switch lubing and mods. you can always apply them later, if you want)

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Anybody knows where i can get some plate mounted cherry stabs?

Just ordered a GMMK and heard that the stabs are pretty rattly.
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sennin32 on ebay (doyustudio) sells genuine cherry stabs, ive gotten a couple from him and he's super friendly, free intl shipping is a huge plus as well smile.gif
and yeah GMMK is notorious for the rattly stabs, but tbh get some thick lube and lube the stabs properly and you will enjoy a world of difference, I personally use Permatex Dielectric Grease over Super Lube but you can find Super Lube at Ace Hardware

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Apr 18 2018, 11:26 PM)
sennin32 on ebay (doyustudio) sells genuine cherry stabs, ive gotten a couple from him and he's super friendly, free intl shipping is a huge plus as well smile.gif
and yeah GMMK is notorious for the rattly stabs, but tbh get some thick lube and lube the stabs properly and you will enjoy a world of difference, I personally use Permatex Dielectric Grease over Super Lube but you can find Super Lube at Ace Hardware

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This is very good information! Thanks again for this write up! smile.gif
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This is very good information! Thanks again for this write up! smile.gif
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haha you're very welcome bro. i have found out some other stuff during my tests; will add them in whenever i can recall the findings.

all this while parts that i used are readily available, and are relatively affordable. however, the outcomes are relatively solid to me.

some parts are costly because those are what i want. e.g. 5-degree case (you can use generic cases), switches (you can use gateron), and key caps (you can use other caps). the case is the most expensive among the essential parts.

as a bonus, you can learn most basics about mkbs in one-go. this one money cannot buy smile.gif

edit: varmilo with cherry mx black is here.

as i suspected, black in varmilo va87m is also smooth af; better than my ikbc f87 with the same switches. the best thing is still the space bar and modifiers. zero rattles, as always biggrin.gif (four boards obtained from different time frames, different switch types, but with same level of great qc)

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btw antaras your videos are getting popular if we searched for gk64 at youtube lol! one of the replies have a nice tip: spraying plastidip into the space bar cap. (taping off all the holes first) i have plastidip, so.. later i will test lol

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btw antaras your videos are getting popular if we searched for gk64 at youtube lol! one of the replies have a nice tip: spraying plastidip into the space bar cap. (taping off all the holes first) i have plastidip, so.. later i will test lol
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hahaha... that is before I change the stabs to original Cherry stabs. Now it's even better. hahaha... need to upload an updated video. XD
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hahaha... that is before I change the stabs to original Cherry stabs. Now it's even better. hahaha... need to upload an updated video. XD
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that means most of us have the same issues with gk64's stock stabilizers hehe

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haha you're very welcome bro. i have found out some other stuff during my tests; will add them in whenever i can recall the findings.

all this while parts that i used are readily available, and are relatively affordable. however, the outcomes are relatively solid to me.

some parts are costly because those are what i want. e.g. 5-degree case (you can use generic cases), switches (you can use gateron), and key caps (you can use other caps). the case is the most expensive among the essential parts.

as a bonus, you can learn most basics about mkbs in one-go. this one money cannot buy smile.gif

edit: varmilo with cherry mx black is here.

as i suspected, black in varmilo va87m is also smooth af; better than my ikbc f87 with the same switches. the best thing is still the space bar and modifiers. zero rattles, as always biggrin.gif (four boards obtained from different time frames, different switch types, but with same level of great qc)

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btw antaras your videos are getting popular if we searched for gk64 at youtube lol! one of the replies have a nice tip: spraying plastidip into the space bar cap. (taping off all the holes first) i have plastidip, so.. later i will test lol
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mind asking what is the 1st and 2nd keycap ? looks nice
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mind asking what is the 1st and 2nd keycap ? looks nice
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here you go:

1st keycap set, double-shot pbt, cherry profile: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=564533027723
2nd keycap set is varmilo stock key caps, side printed, pbt, step sculpture 2 profile: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=543521822182

edit:

.. damn. when i typed metallica and mkb at youtube i got this lol



slayer also have a mkb:



megadeth doesn't have whyyyyyyyyy?

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A couple of before and after videos.

Stock GK64 stabs


GK64 with GMK stabs

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A couple of before and after videos.
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very nice! this is similar to screw-in pcb-mount stabs. no rattle at all smile.gif

edit: wait which type of gmk stabilizers are you using? if possible please share a bit more details so i can get some in future hehe

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Replacing the old Dell full sized keyboard with this.

Typing articles in the office is a bliss now.
Oh, and not a single employee bat an eye that this is no ordinary kb cool2.gif

Ducky One TKL RGB (turned off the RGB) in MX Browns w/ Vortex keycaps for maximum stealth.
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 20 2018, 12:53 AM)
very nice! this is similar to screw-in pcb-mount stabs. no rattle at all smile.gif

edit: wait which type of gmk stabilizers are you using? if possible please share a bit more details so i can get some in future hehe
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I got them from Massdrop
This is how I got them from mail. Exactly the same plastic bags. image

QUOTE(locksng12 @ Apr 20 2018, 05:11 PM)
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Replacing the old Dell full sized keyboard with this.

Typing articles in the office is a bliss now.
Oh, and not a single employee bat an eye that this is no ordinary kb  cool2.gif

Ducky One TKL RGB (turned off the RGB) in MX Browns w/ Vortex keycaps for maximum stealth.
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Very nice keycaps! I got them as well. I used them on my iKBC F108 and also my previous Ducky. Really prefer nice thick PBT over ABS. smile.gif
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soldered with lubed R8 Zealios 67g + 78g on arrow keys. Zeal stabs. Kinda disappointed with zealios tbh. i think i like my MOD-M more.
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I got them from Massdrop
This is how I got them from mail. Exactly the same plastic bags. image

Very nice keycaps! I got them as well. I used them on my iKBC F108 and also my previous Ducky. Really prefer nice thick PBT over ABS. smile.gif
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nice thanks for the link! (this was the drop that i missed out)

QUOTE(G_KeN @ Apr 20 2018, 06:12 PM)
soldered with lubed R8 Zealios 67g + 78g on arrow keys. Zeal stabs. Kinda disappointed with zealios tbh. i think i like my MOD-M more.
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uh? i thought tactile users like zealios. heard so many praises from sifus. just curious which part is the disappointment for you? (in comparison with mod m switches)


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nice thanks for the link! (this was the drop that i missed out)
uh? i thought tactile users like zealios. heard so many praises from sifus. just curious which part is the disappointment for you? (in comparison with mod m switches)
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lack of tactile bump LOL. mod-m is noticeably more tactile. zealios is smoother (mod-m is quite scratchy) and thats about it. Even my topre 45g has more satisfying tactile feedback than zealios.

nah, zealios is just all hype.
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lack of tactile bump LOL. mod-m is noticeably more tactile. zealios is smoother (mod-m is quite scratchy) and thats about it. Even my topre 45g has more satisfying tactile feedback than zealios.

nah, zealios is just all hype.
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.. thanks a lot for sharing this.

i for one cannot feel tactile bumps for topre, brown and clear. so be it maybe i am really not a tactile switch user haha

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finally the total number of buyers that get the enjoypbt 9009 set has reached 200+

r1 and r2 all have 178 keys + free planck set.

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Hey... not bad at all. The colours came out quite good in the end.
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Hey... not bad at all. The colours came out quite good in the end.
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Finally able to try out a wooden case.
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This is just a generic 60% wooden case mainly for GH60. Although the size fits perfectly for GK64 but there are a few areas that need some work. The PCB standoff/mount on the case are too thick and it's blocking the hot swap sockets on the rear of the GK64 PCB. The sides of the case were also in the way of the screw-in stabs. So, this transplant from the original case to this wooden case took way longer and way too much work. In the end I'm also satisfied with the out come.

I'm using a steel plate with a layer of anti slip mat in the case now. The sound is a bit hollow compared to the aluminum case but it's definitely something different. Will need to test this longer.
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Finally able to try out a wooden case.
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This is just a generic 60% wooden case mainly for GH60. Although the size fits perfectly for GK64 but there are a few areas that need some work. The PCB standoff/mount on the case are too thick and it's blocking the hot swap sockets on the rear of the GK64 PCB. The sides of the case were also in the way of the screw-in stabs. So, this transplant from the original case to this wooden case took way longer and way too much work. In the end I'm also satisfied with the out come.

I'm using a steel plate with a layer of anti slip mat in the case now. The sound is a bit hollow compared to the aluminum case but it's definitely something different. Will need to test this longer.
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wow this looks very nice to me +99!

this is a walnut case? hollow? i thought wooden cases absorb more noise. i think i like this a lot despite the work needed. how did you manage to solve the issue of blocking pcb standoff and sides of the case?

edit: thanks a lot to you now we have a reference about wooden cases smile.gif i will try one of the cheapest cases: plastic, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=562283240178 (just ordered because it has 50% discount now lol) this is not the ordinary generic 60% plastic case. it doesn't have ribs to provide stiffness of the case. (the ribs are in the way of switch sockets) according to this photo found at the user comment section, it's very likely to work with gk64 pcb:

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i think it will look nice when all the rgb leds are turned on. also, with it we can bring down the total costs for a base build with gk64 pcb by a significant margin.



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notes on leopold fc660c: .. ok with lubing of sliders, rails, and stabs, and adding a layer of anti-slip mat, this fc660c is quieter; typing is smoother also. somehow i think i feel slight tactile bumps at the top of keys now. (45g; ok checked it's indeed at the top of keys, not midway through in cherry mx switches)

typing on this reminds me of things that i like about topre switches: the nice 'thock' sound, typing consistency of each key, stems with relatively less wobbles, and the implementation of modifiers and space bar. next, i will try 10g springs to see if they can make typing feels better.
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this is a walnut case? hollow? i thought wooden cases absorb more noise. i think i like this a lot despite the work needed. how did you manage to solve the issue of blocking pcb standoff and sides of the case?
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Okay, here's what I did. It's not the prettiest and it's painful to do it as well. Luckily it's all hidden after you mount the plate and PCB.

The red circles are the areas that need work. The 2 standoffs in the middle have issue clearing the hot swap sockets. The one on the bottom middle have issue with the sockets and the screws. Bottom right corner is the sockets as well. Bottom left and top right are stabs screws.
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I filed the wood part of the standoffs. Just enough for the sockets to pass and the PCB to sit flush on top of the standoffs.
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The screws and the washer is slightly protruding from the PCB. Just that tiny little bit but enough the screw up the fitment.
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I had to file/remove part of the sides so that the screws can pass and the PCB can sit flush on that "ridge" (if that's how you call it hahah).
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After all that, i placed the anti slip mat in. The cheap mats you can find in Daiso/Mr.DIY. I got these from Daiso. Don't get those very thick ones thinking that it's going to be better. If it's too thick, then you can't fasten your PCB on the case. (I would think this only applies to GK64 or any board with hot swap sockets on the bottom).
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Lastly a short video of me typing with it. Please pardon the noob typing speed/style. My One Plus 3 camera is not helping as well. sigh... blush.gif
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anyone own a whitefox keyboard o.o?
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 23 2018, 12:05 AM)
Okay, here's what I did. It's not the prettiest and it's painful to do it as well. Luckily it's all hidden after you mount the plate and PCB.

The red circles are the areas that need work. The 2 standoffs in the middle have issue clearing the hot swap sockets. The one on the bottom middle have issue with the sockets and the screws. Bottom right corner is the sockets as well. Bottom left and top right are stabs screws.
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I filed the wood part of the standoffs. Just enough for the sockets to pass and the PCB to sit flush on top of the standoffs.
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The screws and the washer is slightly protruding from the PCB. Just that tiny little bit but enough the screw up the fitment.
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I had to file/remove part of the sides so that the screws can pass and the PCB can sit flush on that "ridge" (if that's how you call it hahah).
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After all that, i placed the anti slip mat in. The cheap mats you can find in Daiso/Mr.DIY. I got these from Daiso. Don't get those very thick ones thinking that it's going to be better. If it's too thick, then you can't fasten your PCB on the case. (I would think this only applies to GK64 or any board with hot swap sockets on the bottom).
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Lastly a short video of me typing with it. Please pardon the noob typing speed/style. My One Plus 3 camera is not helping as well. sigh...  blush.gif
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wow nice!

.. that looked like some work must be done in order to use wooden cases. based on the shape of switch sockets, your gk64 pcb is the newer revision with thicker switch sockets; and you use screw-in stabs.

i don't know, but i think you should try these first before filing:
- use nylon insulation rings on all standoffs to create space for switch sockets and screw-in stabs
- use longer screws (m2*6 or longer; there are m2*8, *10 and *12 also) to secure the pcb
- use flat-head screws for screw-in stabs, or just use the normal pcb-mount stabs

all in all, well done! the typing sound is actually nicer than i thought smile.gif

QUOTE(kietto @ Apr 23 2018, 08:02 AM)
anyone own a whitefox keyboard o.o?
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maybe sifus at mymkb fb group has it.

edit: for gmk screw-in stabs we can now get them from kbdfans, limited quantity, https://kbdfans.cn/collections/keyboard-sta...-in-stabilizers

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i don't know, but i think you should try these first before filing:
- use nylon insulation rings on all standoffs to create space for switch sockets and screw-in stabs
- use longer screws (m2*6 or longer; there are m2*8, *10 and *12 also) to secure the pcb
- use flat-head screws for screw-in stabs, or just use the normal pcb-mount stabs
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hahaha... yeah, on second thought, maybe I should had hold back a lil bit back then. I got the case a while back and I was waiting for the plate from kbdfans for agesssss... Once I got the shipment from Kbdfans, really can't hold back anymore. LOL
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hahaha... yeah, on second thought, maybe I should had hold back a lil bit back then. I got the case a while back and I was waiting for the plate from kbdfans for agesssss... Once I got the shipment from Kbdfans, really can't hold back anymore. LOL
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.. we all have the same feelings and urge haha

however it's actually a good hack. what matters most is its functionality. i will do the same if the above assumptions failed.
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I'm going even further down the rabbit hole...
God what have I become?

HKP Deadhead - Fatso artisan.

Now awaiting HKP Skull Bones - Moster Green
And a PBT spacebar...

O lord help me.

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I'm going even further down the rabbit hole...
God what have I become?

HKP Deadhead - Fatso artisan.

Now awaiting HKP Skull Bones - Moster Green
And a PBT spacebar...

O lord help me.
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hehe nice smile.gif

artisan caps.. not a fan yet lol
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this is the video that i am waiting for so long. finally he shared the way he modded stabs for his custom mkb builds biggrin.gif

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edit: the outcomes are nice typing sound and feels on modifiers and space bar; definitely worth it.


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Nice nice... finally a clear enough guide.
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Nice nice... finally a clear enough guide.
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right very simple, very straight to the points haha

.. and these combined little mods make a world of difference.

edit:

the white-on-black set from maxkey, with 2x lime caps

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Sweet! Now I'm rocking my SA caps again after seeing your post. Then I found out my space bar kept on popping out from 1 side. sigh...

*okay, I added a small piece of square plastic on top of the stabs stem. Now it's staying in place and not popping out. smile.gif

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You guys enjoy your mech keyboard while I rock on with my new purchase flex.gif

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Ultra sexy beige in spoiler below.
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In reality, the feeling is damn awesome. brows.gif

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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 25 2018, 03:15 PM)
Sweet! Now I'm rocking my SA caps again after seeing your post. Then I found out my space bar kept on popping out from 1 side. sigh...

*okay, I added a small piece of square plastic on top of the stabs stem. Now it's staying in place and not popping out. smile.gif
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lol yeah now i appreciate abs a bit more too

oh. my two sets are fine for some reasons. yes a small piece of plastic will help. i do that also when i have loosy space bars hehehe

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You guys enjoy your mech keyboard while I rock on with my new purchase  flex.gif

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In reality, the feeling is damn awesome.  brows.gif
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.. wtf

we like mkb modding, but we are not really that hardcore yet, overusing these boards to the extent that we need to seek medical help hahaha

edit:

.. and now i'm starting to like the typing feels of thick double-shot abs caps. well, forget about key shines lol it's really nice to type on them.


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Can any pro here advice what is audio visualizer and EQ mode in steel series ? Aren't these 2 the same thing? I saw some video on youtube both of this function is some how the same.
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plastic cases for custom gk64 arrived. 6 screws later:

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note that this is a custom plastic case, not the generic 60% plastic case that have supporting ribs. i got this because supporting ribs are in the way of switch sockets. the top plate for tina layout-a / dz60 compatible top plate works well. everything fits nicely, except for one standoff on the left top side. it's a little off. (i just simply moved everything into the case without doing any fine tuning)

- this plastic case is very light compared to aluminum cases. without the rubber feet it slides very easily.
- if you're already used to aluminum cases, you need adjustments. the typing sound is hollow. i didn't put anti-slip mat below the pcb.
- since it doesn't have supporting ribs, it flexes if you purposely go and twist the case by brute force.
- it needs some work to make it better.

however, it looks nice biggrin.gif

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Can any pro here advice what is audio visualizer and EQ mode in steel series ? Aren't these 2 the same thing? I saw some video on youtube both of this function is some how the same.
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they're supposed to be the same thing.
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SteelSeries Apex M650, Razer, Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2, Corsair K70 which will you guys recommend ? why? thanks for the opinion share.
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QUOTE(im_engineer @ Apr 27 2018, 07:28 PM)
SteelSeries Apex M650, Razer, Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2, Corsair K70 which will you guys recommend ? why? thanks for the opinion share.
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out of that 3, Corsair just because Corsair. but the kikaps, they break.
but i have no experience on those 3.

on a side note, i would spend that RM500 and buy iKBC if i want RGB.




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SteelSeries Apex M650, Razer, Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2, Corsair K70 which will you guys recommend ? why? thanks for the opinion share.
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it's actually just a personal preference to pick one of these up. i have a corsair k70 rgb (cherry mx red) just because i like it more. grab whatever you want, as long as you're satisfied with their features.

that being said, there are few downsides of gaming boards in general: hard to find desired key cap sets for replacement, and they're kind of overpriced compared to better mkb options in terms of typing experience.


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a group buy for various kailh box switches by quovadis123 is currently live at mymkb fb page, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMechanicalKeyboard/

.. just swapped to kailh box white. sometimes using these clicky switches are fine also lol


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where can I look for full kb assembling service like winkeyless o.o ?
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where can I look for full kb assembling service like winkeyless o.o ?
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there should be users at mymkb fb page who can help you with that for a fee. you can ask there.
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.. just swapped to kailh box white. sometimes using these clicky switches are fine also lol
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If you are looking to try clicky switches, then I think you should try the Box Navy. I don't have experience with that but it's really hot right now. It's also very heavy and the click bar sound is bitch loud. LOL.
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QUOTE(antaras @ Apr 28 2018, 09:21 PM)
If you are looking to try clicky switches, then I think you should try the Box Navy. I don't have experience with that but it's really hot right now. It's also very heavy and the click bar sound is bitch loud. LOL.
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.. actually i'm not into clicky switches; if not i have gotten pale blue, jade, and also navy when they were available hehe however, it's really refreshing to use these once in a long while lol

what i'm waiting for are silent versions from kailh box. i really hope they come out with something like that in future.

i usually get 40 units of switches, because i replace switches for alphas and numbers only. (36 switches in use, 4 as backup; the rest of the keys are usually linear black)
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if hako true is similar to cherry mx brown in terms of tactile bumps, it's really a disappointment to tactile users.

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edit: besides hana, there is one more set from jtk coming up, jtk yolch

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these days there are many sets using purple.


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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 28 2018, 10:48 PM)
edit: besides hana, there is one more set from jtk coming up, jtk yolch

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these days there are many sets using purple.
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Sad la... no love for 2u shift. T_T
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Sad la... no love for 2u shift. T_T
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yes the 1- and 2u-shift are not mainstream (not many need them)

i have some jtk modifier caps. they are good-quality double-shot thick abs caps (1.5mm. don't bother about key shines; they will shine but are still good looking and are nice to type on. just like maxkey, but with cherry profile) beside their weird alignment issues with legends, they are not bad in terms of typing feels.

edit:

gk64 firmware (1.18) and software updates (5.0.0.22) are now available. both tested ok here. (for gk64 pcb rev. 1 and 2)

the software can work with firmware 1.16 also.

note that the following are the simple steps to update the firmware using the offline firmware updater. DO NOT DISCONNECT THE KEYBOARD FROM YOUR COMPUTER WHEN YOU DO THIS!
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sold my corsair strafe coz want to get tkl. Should i get ikbc c87 or the ducky one 2 tkl? Ikbc priced at rm229 while ducky rm359. Both seems to have similar features
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 1 2018, 07:39 PM)
sold my corsair strafe coz want to get tkl. Should i get ikbc c87 or the ducky one 2 tkl? Ikbc priced at rm229 while ducky rm359. Both seems to have similar features
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you should go for ikbc c87. however it's even better if you can get varmilo va87m. (since you used corsair strafe before, you will notice the obvious differences)

my main choices will always be filco and varmilo. (unless there are options that are not overpriced or better are available) these boards may not be good looking, but functionally they're the top tier prebuilts in terms of overall build qualities.

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QUOTE(horns @ May 1 2018, 09:07 PM)
you should go for ikbc c87. however it's even better if you can get varmilo va87m. (since you used corsair strafe before, you will notice the obvious differences)

my main choices will always be filco and varmilo. (unless there are options that are not overpriced or better are available) these boards may not be good looking, but functionally they're the top tier prebuilts in terms of overall build qualities.
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any particular reasons why you preferred the ikbc c87 compared to the ducky one? What obvious differences you meant by the way?
seems like malaysian stores such as storeuni or ultimate zone doesn't sells that varmilo va87

*storeuni haves varmilo. but..thats way overbudget . sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 1 2018, 09:50 PM)
any particular reasons why you preferred the ikbc c87 compared to the ducky one? What obvious differences you meant by the way?
seems like malaysian stores such as storeuni or ultimate zone doesn't sells that varmilo va87

*storeuni haves varmilo. but..thats way overbudget . sweat.gif
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i have 2x ikbc f87, and i have tested ikbc c104 before. they are all ok. as for ducky, my bad impression since ducky zero still sticks. however, things might have changed, so you should try them out physically first if possible.

the most obvious difference is the smoothness when typing, with very good stabilizer implementations for large keys (modifiers and space bars; no rattles at all)

edit: ok since varmilo tkl is way beyond your budget, i think you should just try out the two and then decide.

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QUOTE(horns @ May 1 2018, 10:11 PM)
i have 2x ikbc f87, and i have tested ikbc c104 before. they are all ok. as for ducky, my bad impression since ducky zero still sticks. however, things might have changed, so you should try them out physically first if possible.

the most obvious difference is the smoothness when typing, with very good stabilizer implementations for large keys (modifiers and space bars; no rattles at all)

edit: ok since varmilo tkl is way beyond your budget, i think you should just try out the two and then decide.
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difference between ikbc f87 and c87 is fb7 has rgb lighting and the keycaps are doubleshot pbt right? C87 seems like non-doubleshot.
You mean good stabilizer implementations for large keys is ikbc>corsair or vice versa?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 1 2018, 10:23 PM)
difference between ikbc f87 and c87 is fb7 has rgb lighting and the keycaps are doubleshot pbt right? C87 seems like non-doubleshot.
You mean good stabilizer implementations for large keys is ikbc>corsair or vice versa?
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c87 is a basic non-led mkb. well, you get what you pay for.

no. for good stabilizer implementation, it's varmilo >> ikbc, corsair.
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QUOTE(horns @ May 1 2018, 10:34 PM)
c87 is a basic non-led mkb. well, you get what you pay for.

no. for good stabilizer implementation, it's varmilo >> ikbc, corsair.
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c87 and f87 same doubleshot pbt keycaps?
what about ikbc and corsair comparison for the stabilizer?
too bad varmilo all over rm500 cry.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 1 2018, 11:40 PM)
c87 and f87 same doubleshot pbt keycaps?
what about ikbc and corsair comparison for the stabilizer?
too bad varmilo all over rm500 cry.gif
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no, only f87 has double-shot pbt caps. c87's pbt is of a different printing method.

to me they're similar. ikbc is slightly better, but with thick lube, corsair's is ok.


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iKBC C87's keycaps are not double-shot. They are laser-etched, but, considering the price of RM229(TKL) and RM249(Full 104 keys), I think it's pretty difficult to find anything else that gives equal value if you don't mind the lack of lighting.

As for Ducky, stay away from the "Zero" series. At the very least get the "One".
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QUOTE(GRexer @ May 2 2018, 01:23 AM)
iKBC C87's keycaps are not double-shot. They are laser-etched, but, considering the price of RM229(TKL) and RM249(Full 104 keys), I think it's pretty difficult to find anything else that gives equal value if you don't mind the lack of lighting.

As for Ducky, stay away from the "Zero" series. At the very least get the "One".
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Thanks. Decided to get the ikbc c87 since it is cheaper but same with ducky kne tkl might as well, splurge on better pbt keycaps.
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18 Aug 2018 will have mkb gathering in KL. Just come out for yamcha.
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qmx silencing clips arrived. fit nicely for my filco tkl. well, it does reduce typing noise, but not really much.

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use lubed silent versions of cherry mx switches for best results.

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 2 2018, 02:08 PM)
Just to make announcement here.

18 Aug 2018 will have mkb gathering in KL. Just come out for yamcha.
Anyone interested please set your own schedule.
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QUOTE(horns @ May 2 2018, 02:11 PM)
qmx silencing clips arrived. fit nicely for my filco tkl. well, it does reduce typing noise, but not really much.

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This is from the mass drop? How long do you wait this to arrive?
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have fun guys.

wish me luck for my wedding. lul
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This is from the mass drop? How long do you wait this to arrive?
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yes from massdrop. it took like 7 to 10 days to reach (from announced ship date)

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have fun guys.

wish me luck for my wedding. lul
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finally lol all the very best bro haha
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also where to get them in lowyat?
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QUOTE(_gmsk @ May 2 2018, 11:09 PM)
been searching for a budget under RM 200ish brown switch mechanical keyboard, so far found AJAZZ AK33I , tecware phantom, ajazz robocop & Marvo KG922. Anyone know anything about these? quality,issue etc?

also where to get them in lowyat?
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finally lol all the very best bro haha
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Last night had a real scare when doing my switch lube and exchange. I actually snapped one of the hot swap sockets when I was pushing in the switch. Luckily, the important part of the socket is still intact. The connector pins and sockets all still functioning. Just black plastic housing broke.

Moral of the story, when you are sleepy AF, do not continue with your keyboard chores. hahaha... XD
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 4 2018, 10:58 AM)
Last night had a real scare when doing my switch lube and exchange. I actually snapped one of the hot swap sockets when I was pushing in the switch. Luckily, the important part of the socket is still intact. The connector pins and sockets all still functioning. Just black plastic housing broke.

Moral of the story, when you are sleepy AF, do not continue with your keyboard chores. hahaha... XD
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uh? how did yo do that? pushing in switches should not cause the black housing to be broken.

however it's an easy fix so it should be fine hehe

edit: yes, it's my habit to do the same when i was really sleepy too lol i think i should stop doing that already

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The GK64 pcb does have the 2 mounting holes for PCB mounted switches. However, if you look closely, 1 of the hole is partly covered by the hot-swap sockets. Now, if you push it hard enough, the switch (5 legs PCB mounted version) will snap in place. That is after one of the leg pushes out the hot swap socket. T_T
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Just got my ikbc c87 . Thebuilt is so much better comapred to corsair although the price is nearly half cheaper. Each ptap on the keycaps also feels more solid. haha
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 4 2018, 11:51 AM)
The GK64 pcb does have the 2 mounting holes for PCB mounted switches. However, if you look closely, 1 of the hole is partly covered by the hot-swap sockets. Now, if you push it hard enough, the switch (5 legs PCB mounted version) will snap in place. That is after one of the leg pushes out the hot swap socket. T_T
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oh no wonder

i usually use 3-leg plate-mount switches so far maybe that's why i didn't have this

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 4 2018, 01:24 PM)
Just got my ikbc c87 . Thebuilt is so much better comapred to corsair although the price is nearly half cheaper. Each ptap on the keycaps also feels more solid. haha
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you are one of the very few that truly understand why we don't recommend gaming boards here. yes, you can always save a lot to get a nice board, with much better qualities.

i don't have corsair strafe to compare to, but older generations of corsair boards, like k70 rgb, were built relatively better imo (compared to other brands, at that time period)


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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 4 2018, 01:24 PM)
Just got my ikbc c87 . Thebuilt is so much better comapred to corsair although the price is nearly half cheaper. Each ptap on the keycaps also feels more solid. haha
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QUOTE(horns @ May 4 2018, 01:39 PM)
you are one of the very few that truly understand why we don't recommend gaming boards here. yes, you can always save a lot to get a nice board, with much better qualities.

i don't have corsair strafe to compare to, but older generations of corsair boards, like k70 rgb, were built relatively better imo (compared to other brands, at that time period)
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The plastic used is also better. Corsair's bit flimsy where can hear sounds like click clak when pressed hard against the board. doh.gif
will definitely get varmilo of i have extra $$ to spulrge. hahaha
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i saw some of u said that the cherry stabs from ebay is the authentic one, i tried searching for it and come across this seller.. is this the one that sells the genuine cherry stabs?

cherry stabs

bought a dz60 board from kbdfans and uses his assembly service.. too bad the stabs that comes with the board is a china knock off and they rattle.. read in reddit that the stabs is a lost cause n even lubing it will not remove the rattling.. was thinking to change it

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 4 2018, 01:24 PM)
Just got my ikbc c87 . Thebuilt is so much better comapred to corsair although the price is nearly half cheaper. Each ptap on the keycaps also feels more solid. haha
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Well, that's probably partly because the Strafe is a cheaper built on. I started out with a K70, which is quite decently built, other than the cheap "laser-etched" keycaps that just don't look good without backlight on. That was what made me moved on. I ended up favouring unlit keyboards.
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 4 2018, 02:59 PM)
i saw some of u said that the cherry stabs from ebay is the authentic one, i tried searching for it and come across this seller.. is this the one that sells the genuine cherry stabs?

cherry stabs

bought a dz60 board from kbdfans and uses his assembly service.. too bad the stabs that comes with the board is a china knock off and they rattle.. read in reddit that the stabs is a lost cause n even lubing it will not remove the rattling.. was thinking to change it
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Can't really 100% tell if those are genuine or knock offs but judging by his seller feedback, he should be okay. Anyway, how are you going to change the stabs since it's already assembled? I assume you will be re-soldering the whole board if you need to change the stabs. Unless I am mistaken.
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 4 2018, 02:17 PM)
The plastic used is also better. Corsair's bit flimsy where can hear sounds like click clak when pressed hard against the board.  doh.gif
will definitely get varmilo of i have extra $$ to spulrge. hahaha
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no wonder.

if you had the chance, try varmilo. you will find your ikbc board is still missing something.

QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 4 2018, 02:59 PM)
i saw some of u said that the cherry stabs from ebay is the authentic one, i tried searching for it and come across this seller.. is this the one that sells the genuine cherry stabs?

cherry stabs

bought a dz60 board from kbdfans and uses his assembly service.. too bad the stabs that comes with the board is a china knock off and they rattle.. read in reddit that the stabs is a lost cause n even lubing it will not remove the rattling.. was thinking to change it
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yes i got some from this same seller.

however if you are using pcb-mount stabs, you should try out screw-in pcb-mount stabs. they're secured firmly to the pcb via screws.

QUOTE(GMart @ May 4 2018, 03:03 PM)
Well, that's probably partly because the Strafe is a cheaper built on. I started out with a K70, which is quite decently built, other than the cheap "laser-etched" keycaps that just don't look good without backlight on. That was what made me moved on. I ended up favouring unlit keyboards.
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ok now i got it; not all from corsair's are using aluminum plate

yeah those caps :/
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Can't really 100% tell if those are genuine or knock offs but judging by his seller feedback, he should be okay. Anyway, how are you going to change the stabs since it's already assembled? I assume you will be re-soldering the whole board if you need to change the stabs. Unless I am mistaken.
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yea..i'm planning to desolder it.. well by desolder it i mean hire someone since i dun have the equipment to desolder it xD

QUOTE(horns @ May 4 2018, 04:16 PM)
no wonder.

if you had the chance, try varmilo. you will find your ikbc board is still missing something.
yes i got some from this same seller.

however if you are using pcb-mount stabs, you should try out screw-in pcb-mount stabs. they're secured firmly to the pcb via screws.
ok now i got it; not all from corsair's are using aluminum plate

yeah those caps :/
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oO..yea i think mine is the mount stabs.. maybe i need to recheck

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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 4 2018, 04:32 PM)
yea..i'm planning to desolder it.. well by desolder it i mean hire someone since i dun have the equipment to desolder it xD
oO..yea i think mine is the mount stabs.. maybe i need to recheck
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So, if you are getting the screw in stabs, then you can just buy from kbdfans as well. GMK screw-in stabilizers They are the real deal and I am using them right now. Rattle be gone... hehehe... smile.gif
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 4 2018, 04:35 PM)
So, if you are getting the screw in stabs, then you can just buy from kbdfans as well. GMK screw-in stabilizers They are the real deal and I am using them right now. Rattle be gone... hehehe... smile.gif
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oO.. i might check them out.. because when I bought my board from kbdfans i asked him if he had a different stabs in stock n he said he ran out.. so my choice was left with the oem knock off stabs.. whats the difference between the screw in stabs n pcb mount stabs?

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oO..yea i think mine is the mount stabs.. maybe i need to recheck
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yes better confirm first. i guess it's pcb-mount because of cutouts of dz60 plates imo should be meant for pcb-mount stabs.
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yes better confirm first. i guess it's pcb-mount because of cutouts of dz60 plates imo should be meant for pcb-mount stabs.
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does that mean the dz60 cant use the screw in stabs?
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does that mean the dz60 cant use the screw in stabs?
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no, i mean screw-in pcb-mount stabs should be supported.

edit: this gk64 is used to test mixed kailh box red (wasd keys) /black (modifiers) / white (alphas and numbers)

cherry mx silent red stem with gateron black's spring and housing is used for space bar (replaced with jtk space bar cap, because my thick pbt space bar came warped lol)

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Hay gais. What’s the most economical way to buy a unit of brand new FC660MS/EWPD?
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you should ask this at mymkb fb page instead. they might be able to give you better answers.
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I deleted my Facebook account. So that's not an option.

Anyway, I'm currently eyeing two keyboards for my next—it's either VA68Mg or FC660MS/EWDP, both with Silent Red.

I talked with Cynthia regarding the Varmilo so that's good but Leopold, man I have no idea how to get one. Talked with widebasket but it's out of stock with no plan of re-stoking.
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if that's the case, try ask other mkb communities. good luck.


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Hey guys, I own a Corsair Vengence K70 (non-RGB) which lasted me 2 years before it suddenly died on me. Keyboard completely not detected with any computer. Corsair support has given up on support but i still wanna try and fix this keyboard if i can. Anyone knows anywhere that does keyboard repairs? Thanks a alot.
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QUOTE(Longicollis @ May 4 2018, 08:48 PM)
I deleted my Facebook account. So that's not an option.

Anyway, I'm currently eyeing two keyboards for my next—it's either VA68Mg or FC660MS/EWDP, both with Silent Red.

I talked with Cynthia regarding the Varmilo so that's good but Leopold, man I have no idea how to get one. Talked with widebasket but it's out of stock with no plan of re-stoking.
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this is purely suggestion since me myself never bought that kibod.

but iinm, ultimate zone brought in leopold b4, maybe u can ask them to source for u. who knows.
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Hey guys, I own a Corsair Vengence K70 (non-RGB) which lasted me 2 years before it suddenly died on me. Keyboard completely not detected with any computer. Corsair support has given up on support but i still wanna try and fix this keyboard if i can. Anyone knows anywhere that does keyboard repairs? Thanks a alot.
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suddenly? that's a bad sign.

maybe some one in the mymkb fb page can help. the chance might be higher if you tried to ask there.
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suddenly? that's a bad sign.

maybe some one in the mymkb fb page can help. the chance might be higher if you tried to ask there.
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thanks man. If not i'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and get another one. Any suggestions for a cheaper mechanical keyboard with cherry mx blues? I've been eyeing on the coolermaster masterkeys S.
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QUOTE(Windsilver @ May 5 2018, 09:22 AM)
thanks man. If not i'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and get another one. Any suggestions for a cheaper mechanical keyboard with cherry mx blues? I've been eyeing on the coolermaster masterkeys S.
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the space bar and modifiers on my cm masterkeys s pro rattle terribly (bad stabs). lubing helps but not really much so be sure to check them out first before you buy.

imo relatively better ones that i know are ikbc f87 rgb (led), or ikbc c87 (non-led).
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QUOTE(horns @ May 5 2018, 12:38 PM)
imo relatively better ones that i know are ikbc f87 rgb (led), or ikbc c87 (non-led).
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The iKBC C87 is super value buy at the moment at RM229. brows.gif
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The iKBC C87 is super value buy at the moment at RM229.  brows.gif
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yes, it's a very good deal. (cherry mx switches; laser-engraved pbt caps; relatively decent build quality compared to most prebuilts)

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https://shopee.com.my/104-keys-PBT-keycaps-...3361.1008904516
wonder is this really pbt material since its so cheap. Even cheaper than in taobao.
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QUOTE(GRexer @ May 5 2018, 03:05 PM)
The iKBC C87 is super value buy at the moment at RM229.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 5 2018, 09:32 PM)
https://shopee.com.my/104-keys-PBT-keycaps-...3361.1008904516
wonder is this really pbt material since its so cheap. Even cheaper than in taobao.
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.. because these are the thinnest backlit double-shot pbt key cap sets.

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QUOTE(horns @ May 5 2018, 11:00 PM)
.. because these are the thinnest backlit double-shot pbt key cap sets.
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just ordered one set , since it is cheap. Will see how is it. biggrin.gif
btw, how much does the cheapest kb to have the cable like this ? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater
Is it only custom made keyboards?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 5 2018, 11:32 PM)
just ordered one set , since it is cheap. Will see how  is it.  biggrin.gif
btw, how much does the cheapest kb to have the cable like this ? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater
Is it only  custom made keyboards?
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Thin PBT keycaps = worse than most stock oem abs keycaps imo.

Its a detachable cable. If ur keyboard supports detachable cable, then u can build literally anything as ur cable lol.

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QUOTE(Longicollis @ May 4 2018, 08:48 PM)
I deleted my Facebook account. So that's not an option.

Anyway, I'm currently eyeing two keyboards for my next—it's either VA68Mg or FC660MS/EWDP, both with Silent Red.

I talked with Cynthia regarding the Varmilo so that's good but Leopold, man I have no idea how to get one. Talked with widebasket but it's out of stock with no plan of re-stoking.
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You can just buy it in http://www.leopold.co.kr/
Just need forwarder to ship it back.

Else, ask any friend in Korea hand carry it back to you. <-- economic, and you can waive the taxes.
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 5 2018, 11:32 PM)
just ordered one set , since it is cheap. Will see how  is it.  biggrin.gif
btw, how much does the cheapest kb to have the cable like this ? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater
Is it only  custom made keyboards?
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ok haha

yeah like G_KeN said, it's a detachable cable. it's a mod that you can do for your

QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 6 2018, 12:00 AM)
Thin PBT keycaps = worse than most stock oem abs keycaps imo.

Its a detachable cable. If ur keyboard supports detachable cable, then u can build literally anything as ur cable lol.
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yes compared to thicker pbt, thin ones feel relatively bad for typing feels. on the other hand, it's a very affordable option if you just wanna replace your spoiled caps

QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 6 2018, 01:38 AM)
You can just buy it in http://www.leopold.co.kr/
Just need forwarder to ship it back.

Else, ask any friend in Korea hand carry it back to you. <-- economic, and you can waive the taxes.
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a nice tip biggrin.gif

edit: i bricked one of the gk64 pcb lol seriously do not touch the keyboard while the firmware upgrade is in progress. i went and adjust the cable for no reason.

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 6 2018, 01:38 AM)
You can just buy it in http://www.leopold.co.kr/
Just need forwarder to ship it back.

Else, ask any friend in Korea hand carry it back to you. <-- economic, and you can waive the taxes.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
1. I can't read a single word from that website; Google Translate can't really help when the wordings are in pictures instead of text.
2. Any idea of Korean forwarders? Something like Buyee or Tenso would be very nice.
3. Maybe... maybe you can sauce one unit for me?

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has anyone here ever sold/sent keyboard internationally? if yes, other than filling up the usual EMS slip with sender/receiver address, item description and price, do I need to produce any other documentation?
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has anyone here ever sold/sent keyboard internationally? if yes, other than filling up the usual EMS slip with sender/receiver address, item description and price, do I need to produce any other documentation?
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No other documentation. Only fill the Pos Laju EMS (Orange) form.
Please remember to take photo of your parcels, and the Consignment, in case the receiver need information from you again during the board stucked in their Custom.

Transit via EMS took around 5 business days. You can assume if monday send out, your receiver will receive on Sun or next Monday.
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No other documentation. Only fill the Pos Laju EMS (Orange) form.
Please remember to take photo of your parcels, and the Consignment, in case the receiver need information from you again during the board stucked in their Custom.

Transit via EMS took around 5 business days. You can assume if monday send out, your receiver will receive on Sun or next Monday.
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ah i see. based on ur experience, how much is the average cost to send a keyboard via EMS?

I assume EMS is the cheapest option with tracking right?
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ah i see. based on ur experience, how much is the average cost to send a keyboard via EMS?

I assume EMS is the cheapest option with tracking right?
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EMS (Merchandise) in fact the most expensive shipping with tracking; EMS is available in most countries, and fastest.
If you want to save some shipping, use Pos Malaysia Air Parcel. It only weigh your parcel and won't volumetric charge you.

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EMS:
Depends on your destination location, you can check in the poslaju website. And you don't have to pay any GST as it's outbound shipping to oversea.
https://www.pos.com.my/postal-services/quic...lculate-postage
Go to international rates to see the shipping cost. Most expensive is ship to United States. The cost depends on the "Zones", the further away from M'sia, then the price will very expensive.
Ship to USA, 1.5kg around RM 210. Ship to Vietnam, 1.5kg around RM 107.50.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 6 2018, 07:49 PM)
EMS (Merchandise) in fact the most expensive shipping with tracking; EMS is available in most countries, and fastest.
If you want to save some shipping, use Pos Malaysia Air Parcel. It only weigh your parcel and won't volumetric charge you.

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EMS:
Depends on your destination location, you can check in the poslaju website. And you don't have to pay any GST as it's outbound shipping to oversea.
https://www.pos.com.my/postal-services/quic...lculate-postage
Go to international rates to see the shipping cost. Most expensive is ship to United States. The cost depends on the "Zones", the further away from M'sia, then the price will very expensive.
Ship to USA, 1.5kg around RM 210. Ship to Vietnam, 1.5kg around RM 107.50.
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based on ur experience, if u use Pos Malaysia Air Parcel (with tracking), how long does it normally take to arrive to destination?

im planning to sell my friend's keycaps and keyboard separately on reddit mechmarket, so u would recommend normal international parcel service instead of EMS right?
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 6 2018, 09:16 PM)
based on ur experience, if u use Pos Malaysia Air Parcel (with tracking), how long does it normally take to arrive to destination?

im planning to sell my friend's keycaps and keyboard separately on reddit mechmarket, so u would recommend normal international parcel service instead of EMS right?
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At least 2 weeks for Air Parcel, and the tracking is not that up to date (live track). But it save alot. EMS great service, but price premium.

If keycaps, you can use Flexiprepaid, it will save you alot of money. It's like poslaju prepaid plastics parcel. <-- only for keycaps (lightweight and small size)
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Any cheap recommendation for mkb with 68% layout?
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tada68 and poker in storeuni is quite tempting. But i never used them before, can ask the sifus here
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you guys have any link where you buy the lubricant for lubing stabs and switches?
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You can try Ace Hardware for Super Lube 21030. It's the grease type. This will be suitable for stabs. You can also use this for your switches but most veterans will advice against this. For proper switch lubrication, you can try Taobao. You can use a forwarder for Krytox GPL105. It's not cheap though. Good luck!
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Anyone have any idea where can I get nylon M2 washer? Both black or white/transparent colour. Did a few round of searching online and most sellers also from foreign countries.
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 7 2018, 02:08 PM)
You can try Ace Hardware for Super Lube 21030. It's the grease type. This will be suitable for stabs. You can also use this for your switches but most veterans will advice against this. For proper switch lubrication, you can try Taobao. You can use a forwarder for Krytox GPL105. It's not cheap though. Good luck!
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thx.. geez the price.. haha.. if i buy the 50g.. how many bottles do I need to get for a whole switches for 60 keyboard
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 7 2018, 02:12 PM)
thx.. geez the price.. haha.. if i buy the 50g.. how many bottles do I need to get for a whole switches for 60 keyboard
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A single 50g bottle is more than enough for a 60 board. I tried both Krytox and also Super Lube on my linear switches, in truth, it's not that much different from both of them. However, I can definitely say it's much easier applying Krytox compared to the grease type Super Lube. Anyway, I only tried on linear switches and nothing else.
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 7 2018, 02:19 PM)
A single 50g bottle is more than enough for a 60 board. I tried both Krytox and also Super Lube on my linear switches, in truth, it's not that much different from both of them. However, I can definitely say it's much easier applying Krytox compared to the grease type Super Lube. Anyway, I only tried on linear switches and nothing else.
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got cha.. i'm using gateron red currently
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Anyone have any idea where can I get nylon M2 washer? Both black or white/transparent colour. Did a few round of searching online and most sellers also from foreign countries.
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for these, just source from taobao. they are much cheaper.
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thx.. geez the price.. haha.. if i buy the 50g.. how many bottles do I need to get for a whole switches for 60 keyboard
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i have 11ml Krytox vpf 1514 thin oil (similar to 103/104) for rm80 = can lube around 380 switches
and 3ml Tribosys 3204 thick lube (grade 0) for rm40 = can lube maybe 1 and a half full size keyboard

i only have 1 vial each for sale, selling at a lower price i paid for including shipping from usa. selling coz decided to stick with just (lubed) topre keyboards
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 9 2018, 01:11 AM)
i have 11ml Krytox vpf 1514 thin oil (similar to 103/104) for rm80 = can lube around 380 switches
and 3ml Tribosys 3204 thick lube (grade 0) for rm40 = can lube maybe 1 and a half full size keyboard

i only have 1 vial each for sale, selling at a lower price i paid for including shipping from usa. selling coz decided to stick with just (lubed) topre keyboards
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.. good stuff, and a good deal too smile.gif

edit: after a week of daily use, imo mixed switch types (e.g. clicky + linear) are really not ideal for typing. variable weights of the same switch type are fine, however.


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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 9 2018, 01:11 AM)
i have 11ml Krytox vpf 1514 thin oil (similar to 103/104) for rm80 = can lube around 380 switches
and 3ml Tribosys 3204 thick lube (grade 0) for rm40 = can lube maybe 1 and a half full size keyboard

i only have 1 vial each for sale, selling at a lower price i paid for including shipping from usa. selling coz decided to stick with just (lubed) topre keyboards
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nice..if you have it still next month maybe i can buy it.. i already spend lots of money on battlepass in dota..damn u gaben!

also i decided to learn soldering and desoldering by myself.. you guys have any recommendation of a good one? I saw in lazada got they sell set around 40-60+.. are those good?
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 11 2018, 11:04 AM)
also i decided to learn soldering and desoldering by myself.. you guys have any recommendation of a good one? I saw in lazada got they sell set around 40-60+.. are those good?
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.. i guess we have to find out this one ourselves.

my friends are using cheap tools to solder/desolder stuff. they told me to practice more to know what your tools can do, then adjust timings accordingly. good tools do help, but practice makes perfect.

edit:

.. this is the gk64 that i use the most. lubed gateron red/black combo is nice if you like linear switches.

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.. i guess we have to find out this one ourselves.

my friends are using cheap tools to solder/desolder stuff. they told me to practice more to know what your tools can do, then adjust timings accordingly. good tools do help, but practice makes perfect.

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set 1

set 2

this r some of the soldering iron sets i found in lazada.. will these do the works or i should find others?
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set 1

set 2

this r some of the soldering iron sets i found in lazada.. will these do the works or i should find others?
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er i just borrowed my friends' chinese-made soldering stations and stuff for few times only. it's better to wait for experienced users' suggestions

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Anyone here tried other switches in a Tecware Phantom? I really want to try Box Switches but I'm not sure if it will fit.
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Anyone here tried other switches in a Tecware Phantom? I really want to try Box Switches but I'm not sure if it will fit.
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you should get kailh box switches and just try them out.

according to our friend at mymkb fb page, it's better to make custom switches with outemu housings (e.g. gateron stems + gateron springs + outemu top cover + outemu housings) to reduce the issue of bent pins. however since the design for kailh and outemu might not be the same, you might not be able to do this.
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 12 2018, 11:19 PM)
set 1

set 2

this r some of the soldering iron sets i found in lazada.. will these do the works or i should find others?
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Should work fine. Even if the iron doesn’t perform to your expectation, just get a 35W Hakko soldering iron from Jln Pasar.

My priority would be something like this: top quality soldering lead > high quality soldering flux > variety of soldering iron tip (Ori Hakko or better, with different pitch and shape) > soldering iron itself (doesn’t really matter,just switch out the heating element if any element)
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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 13 2018, 04:11 PM)
Should work fine. Even if the iron doesn’t perform to your expectation, just get a 35W Hakko soldering iron from Jln Pasar.

My priority would be something like this: top quality soldering lead > high quality soldering flux > variety of soldering iron tip (Ori Hakko or better, with different pitch and shape) > soldering iron itself (doesn’t really matter,just switch out the heating element if any element)
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what does soldering flux do?
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Used to clear the oxides and helps “wet” the solder better. Basically, solder lead do have flux inside their core, but usually I prefer more flux for certain applications
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QUOTE(Macnair @ May 13 2018, 07:59 AM)
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Tecware Phantom's "Hot Swappable" design is only meant for Outemu switches if you're looking for a direct fit. Outemu switches have thinner pins and those "hot swap" sockets do not fit the slightly larger pin diameter shared by Cherry, Kailh, and Gateron. If you plan to use other brands' stem and spring, you'll have to re-use the Outemu switch housings.

Only those recent "hot swap" keyboards that uses the Kailh hot-swap PCB mount sockets can fit all range of switches as those come with spring-clamp sockets.
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Used to clear the oxides and helps “wet” the solder better. Basically, solder lead do have flux inside their core, but usually I prefer more flux for certain applications
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i see.. any suggestion of a high quality soldering lead and soldering flux?
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i see.. any suggestion of a high quality soldering lead and soldering flux?
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soldering lead = prokit
soldering flux/paste = burnley
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.. and it's time for me to get a more proper set also.

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another question.. the soldering kit on lazada I provided above, will the solder sucker comes with the set would do its job desoldering switches without any problem?
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 14 2018, 10:02 AM)
another question.. the soldering kit on lazada I provided above, will the solder sucker comes with the set would do its job desoldering switches without any problem?
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Shouldn't be an issue, but I would recommend getting some old broken electronics to practice on first if this is the first time you're actually doing any soldering.

For the price, I'm not sure if you can get a similar kit from Jalan Pasar(if you live around KL and surrounding areas) instead of ordering online.
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QUOTE(GRexer @ May 14 2018, 03:04 PM)
Shouldn't be an issue, but I would recommend getting some old broken electronics to practice on first if this is the first time you're actually doing any soldering.

For the price, I'm not sure if you can get a similar kit from Jalan Pasar(if you live around KL and surrounding areas) instead of ordering online.
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how much are the kits sell in jalan pasar? i live in kepong.. might go there to look if i'm free
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has anyone bought this o.o?
this latest ver released recently

https://item.mi.com/1181300020.html

the rounded corner body, switch and usb c port are really attractive to me
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QUOTE(kietto @ May 14 2018, 03:53 PM)
has anyone bought this o.o?
this latest ver released recently

https://item.mi.com/1181300020.html

the rounded corner body, switch and usb c port are really attractive to me
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looks nice.
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QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 14 2018, 03:17 PM)
how much are the kits sell in jalan pasar? i live in kepong.. might go there to look if i'm free
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Been a while since I've been there. While I won't spend much on a soldering iron, I still believe that a decent one with a lasting heater core and replaceable tips is a good one to go. Personally am using Hakko for the normal soldering irons but I've since upgraded to a TS-100 microchip controlled one.

Really depends on what your want out of the set. As for desoldering pump, try to get one with a flexible tip (soft yet doesn't get burnt) and also big sized yet still manageable single handedly. Unless you get something like the Engineer SS-02 which costs around RM100+, most basic desoldering pump has the concept of "bigger size, bigger suction volume", the flexible tip also helps in making sure the suction on the desoldering area is good and manages to suck it all out in one go.

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QUOTE(horns @ May 13 2018, 10:44 PM)
thanks a lot for the tips and suggestions smile.gif

.. and it's time for me to get a more proper set also.
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sure no probs. don't apply too much solder flux though, because you would have to clean it up with IPA solution.

QUOTE(kraziekd @ May 14 2018, 10:02 AM)
thx for the info smile.gif
another question.. the soldering kit on lazada I provided above, will the solder sucker comes with the set would do its job desoldering switches without any problem?
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can't really comment much on desoldering sucker. I generally don't use them, I only need a fine pitch tweezer and a soldering iron, even for desoldering laugh.gif

however, try not to buy/use those "high power" sucker. if you are inexperienced with it, you might even suck out the whole pad, which might render your PCB useless laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 14 2018, 11:25 PM)
sure no probs. don't apply too much solder flux though, because you would have to clean it up with IPA solution.

can't really comment much on desoldering sucker. I generally don't use them, I only need a fine pitch tweezer and a soldering iron, even for desoldering laugh.gif

however, try not to buy/use those "high power" sucker. if you are inexperienced with it, you might even suck out the whole pad, which might render your PCB useless laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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yes although flux is useful, i was also told that it's not good to abuse it.

there are a lot more that i need to learn about basic but proper soldering/desoldering/maintenance of tools etc. hopefully i can pick them up when time comes lol
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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 14 2018, 11:25 PM)
however, try not to buy/use those "high power" sucker. if you are inexperienced with it, you might even suck out the whole pad, which might render your PCB useless laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Oh yeah, kinda reminded me that with inexperience, overheating the area plus high power sucker will damage the pad. sweat.gif
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Oh yeah, kinda reminded me that with inexperience, overheating the area plus high power sucker will damage the pad.  sweat.gif
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ouch, that would probably need some manual routing to save the PCB sweat.gif but it's a pretty normal mistake during desoldering
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Nah.. I mean, I had forgotten about this point to take note off, granted, I'm now using a desoldering station to do all these desoldering work.
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hi all sifu2 masta2,
may i know which gaming tkl mech kb worth to get nowadays?..cheap2 for some esport gaming only..ohyaa with red or brown switch and some backlit maybe...
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hi all sifu2 masta2,
may i know which gaming tkl mech kb worth to get nowadays?..cheap2 for some esport gaming only..ohyaa with red or brown switch and some backlit maybe...
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define gaming TKL meck kb? hmm.gif
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worse keyboard ever? to the point there is a class action law suit.


https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/14/ap...claims_lawsuit/


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it more evenly distributes the pressure from tapping on the keys. However, the keys get easily stuck if any particle gets into the mechanism. And repair is costly. At least, that the assertion of a recall petition signed by almost 18,000 people in just over a week.

Their suit says “Thousands of consumers have experienced this defect. When the MacBook’s butterfly keyboard fails, the keys stick and no longer register keystrokes.”




or any other suggestions for keyboard deserving of this title hmm.gif xd



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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 15 2018, 10:06 PM)
worse keyboard ever? to the point there is a class action law suit.
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or any other suggestions for keyboard deserving of this title  hmm.gif  xd
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.. maybe they did the whole qc process in a clean room :/
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QUOTE(horns @ May 15 2018, 11:51 PM)
.. maybe they did the whole qc process in a clean room :/
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well this is what happens when they don't send me the hardware to beta test icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ May 15 2018, 04:52 PM)
define gaming TKL meck kb?  hmm.gif
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idk bro..ahahaha just cheap2 can be mod or change keycaps
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idk bro..ahahaha just cheap2 can be mod or change keycaps
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Err. Maybe ajazz, tecware, fuhlen, redragon?
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Err. Maybe ajazz, tecware, fuhlen, redragon?
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last time bought kb poker2..is't still worth it this day to buy from china?...
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QUOTE(qaa7705d @ May 16 2018, 10:56 AM)
last time bought kb poker2..is't still worth it this day to buy from china?...
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Are you looking for full size, TKL or 60%? You have any budget? If you have budget, then the list can narrow down by ALOT.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 16 2018, 09:40 AM)
well this is what happens when they don't send me the hardware to beta test  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 16 2018, 11:52 AM)
Are you looking for full size, TKL or 60%? You have any budget? If you have budget, then the list can narrow down by ALOT.
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ohyaa budget maybe around rm250..prefer brown switch tkl with backlit...
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Anyone here ever bought a Hasu BT controller before?
How is your experience with the battery life for the keyboard?
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Ikbc c87. Rm229 from ultimatezone. Definitely worth it for the price.


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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 16 2018, 10:11 PM)
Ikbc c87. Rm229 from ultimatezone. Definitely worth it for the price.
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nice haha

yes it's really a good deal for that price smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 16 2018, 10:11 PM)
Ikbc c87. Rm229 from ultimatezone. Definitely worth it for the price.
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ohmy.gif got backlit?
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 16 2018, 10:11 PM)
Ikbc c87. Rm229 from ultimatezone. Definitely worth it for the price.
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Already swapping out the keycaps so soon? laugh.gif

QUOTE(qaa7705d @ May 17 2018, 05:32 AM)
ohmy.gif got backlit?
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Nope, non-backlit but comes with PBT keycaps.
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Already swapping out the keycaps so soon?  laugh.gif
Nope, non-backlit but comes with PBT keycaps.
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as long you are ok with it, it doesn't really matter if caps are cheap or not. the key point is about you, not really about others.

tbh in terms of improvements for typing feels in cherry mx style mkbs, there is a point beyond which you will feel nothing significant. at that point, you will know paying more for switches, cases, plates, stabs, caps, lubes, etc. have nothing to do with typing feels, but something else. (e.g. as collectibles, i.e. limited editions of the whole prebuilt or custom board, or parts like switches and key cap sets)

there is no need to take my words for it. slowly try them out as a hobby, and you will get what i mean, eventually. one thing is for sure: most prebuilts can be great if you spend more time fine-tuning it. (like other said, give it love and care biggrin.gif)
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My OCD is telling me I need to ditch them.

All Kailh box switches have this issues? They do not line up straight.

Number row = Kailh box brown
Alphas row = Aliaz silent
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 17 2018, 05:05 PM)
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My OCD is telling me I need to ditch them.

All Kailh box switches have this issues? They do not line up straight.

Number row = Kailh box brown
Alphas row = Aliaz silent
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i think you should take photos with caps on, then observes the alignment of each cap and case to make it more obvious.
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The latest hot-swap socket looks like this.
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i think you should take photos with caps on, then observes the alignment of each cap and case to make it more obvious.
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I already had the caps on. The whole numbers row are with the box switches and the rest in Aliaz. You can already see that the number caps ar elining up straight. Each caps on the numbers row have a slight "rotated/bent" to it. The bottom right corner will not match the bottom left of the cap on it's right. If you know what I mean. And it's very consistent throughout. So, it's definitely design issue.
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 17 2018, 07:16 PM)
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Hey, it's a lot cleaner than my GK64. The soldering work is a lot cleaner on the new board!

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 17 2018, 07:16 PM)
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yes this is the latest pcb.

QUOTE(antaras @ May 17 2018, 07:33 PM)
I already had the caps on. The whole numbers row are with the box switches and the rest in Aliaz. You can already see that the number caps ar elining up straight. Each caps on the numbers row have a slight "rotated/bent" to it. The bottom right corner will not match the bottom left of the cap on it's right. If you know what I mean. And it's very consistent throughout. So, it's definitely design issue.
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oh ok got it. yes it's consistent. i didn't realize about this at all hahaha

well as long as it's operating normally i'm ok

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Hey, it's a lot cleaner than my GK64. The soldering work is a lot cleaner on the new board!
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.. hm yours is a bit different from ours. i have both rev.1 and .2 pcbs. my rev.2 is the same as what quovadis123 has, i.e. the soldering work is clean.

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QUOTE(horns @ May 17 2018, 07:57 PM)
.. hm yours is a bit different from ours. i have both rev.1 and .2 pcbs. my rev.2 is the same as what quovadis123 has, i.e. the soldering work is clean.
The one I have:
25-16-K64BU-P01 K3V4
2017-11-04

The one on Kok Why:
25-16-K64BU-P01 K3V5
2017-12-05

I assume mine is 1 version and 1 month earlier.
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QUOTE(antaras @ May 18 2018, 11:02 AM)
The one I have:
25-16-K64BU-P01 K3V4
2017-11-04

The one on Kok Why:
25-16-K64BU-P01 K3V5
2017-12-05

I assume mine is 1 version and 1 month earlier.
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ok i have v3 and v5.

yours showed that we can actually do switch replacement with normal solder. if you needed to do a clean one then you might need a heat gun + solder paste.

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now my room has loud click-click-click sound when i type haha!

this is my varmilo va87m with jtk caps.

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QUOTE(horns @ May 18 2018, 12:59 PM)
ok i have v3 and v5.

yours showed that we can actually do switch replacement with normal solder. if you needed to do a clean one then you might need a heat gun + solder paste.

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now my room has loud click-click-click sound when i type haha!

this is my varmilo va87m with jtk caps.

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Is that gmk 9009, or kprepublic 9009? 🤔

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ May 18 2018, 02:08 PM)
Is that gmk 9009, or kprepublic 9009? 🤔
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it's not gmk, but kprepublic's 9009.
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it's not gmk, but kprepublic's 9009.
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Is the quality ok? Thick kikaps? U like using it?

Anyway i notice the price is diff buying straight from taobao n from its english website, kprepublic.com.

So its better to buy straight from taobao?
Taobao is cheaper by rm50 roughly. Big amount for cheapo.

Whats ur say masta?
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ May 18 2018, 02:35 PM)
Is the quality ok? Thick kikaps? U like using it?

Anyway i notice the price is diff buying straight from taobao n from its english website, kprepublic.com.

So its better to buy straight from taobao?
Taobao is cheaper by rm50 roughly. Big amount for cheapo.

Whats ur say masta?
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quality wise, yes i like it: thick pbt, dye-sub, and 170 keys for this set.

ok i didn't realize there are differences in price gaps between their taobao's shop and their website (the last time i checked they're almost the same) also, when i bought this one i stumbled upon their early bird program of some sort i guess.
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quality wise, yes i like it: thick pbt, dye-sub, and 170 keys for this set.

ok i didn't realize there are differences in price gaps between their taobao's shop and their website (the last time i checked they're almost the same) also, when i bought this one i stumbled upon their early bird program of some sort i guess.
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Yea, i got excited seeing its dye-sub.

Thank you for ur feedback smile.gif
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ May 18 2018, 03:41 PM)
Yea, i got excited seeing its dye-sub.

Thank you for ur feedback smile.gif
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no problem haha it's for easing my itch a bit temporarily, while i wait for enjoypbt sets to reach.

it's really take ages to reach if we joined this kind of group buys.

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Hi. Is it possible to replace the keys on razer blackwidow ultimate?
Where can i buy the replacement keys of it's possible
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sifu, is there a place to get dark grey PBT key caps o.o?

and then I plan to get keyboard from mi, and I'd like to change the TTC switches to cherry / razer

is it possible to get someone help to "uninstall" and "install"+"burn" the switch back to my kb ?

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Hi.  Is it possible to replace the keys on razer blackwidow ultimate?
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the options are usually pretty limited. you can find some at taobao/aliexpress.

QUOTE(kietto @ May 18 2018, 10:59 PM)
sifu, is there a place to get dark grey PBT key caps o.o?

and then I plan to get keyboard from mi, and I'd like to change the TTC switches to cherry / razer

is it possible to get someone help to "uninstall" and "install"+"burn" the switch back to my kb ?
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dark grey.. you can get varmilo's key caps at kbdfans (side printed, thick pbt, step sculpture 2 profile).

yes there are a few guys at mymkb fb page that can offer their helps with this, e.g. https://www.facebook.com/seu.evum

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hi guys

coming from cherry mx black, would there be a huge difference in typing and gaming feels if i were to switch to cherry mx red or mx speed?

im planning to switch from cm quickfire rapid mx black to either ducky shine 6 red or speed, or do you guys have any other mkb recommendation that has RGB at a lower price point but close enough build quality?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 21 2018, 12:30 AM)
hi guys

coming from cherry mx black, would there be a huge difference in typing and gaming feels if i were to switch to cherry mx red or mx speed?

im planning to switch from cm quickfire rapid mx black to either ducky shine 6 red or speed, or do you guys have any other mkb recommendation that has RGB at a lower price point but close enough build quality?
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the most obvious difference is the spring weights. the actuation force for red/speed is 45cN, while black is 60cN.

for red/speed users (me included), black is stiffer. this affects typing speed. (i touch type usually. the same force that i use on red sometimes doesn't actuate keys on black) in your case, you might misfire hehe (because red are relatively lighter to you) however it's not that obvious for gaming.

all in all, just give them a try at shops with demonstration units of red/speed.

as for the build quality, ducky users should give you better ideas.

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