What is your current pay at the moment? Need to factor in the living cost and career progression/development/job security as well. Also the family factor if you are married/with kids.

current:
RM11k
13.5 month
annual and quarterly performance bonus total around 1month pa
stocks USD12k

single but plan to get married in 2-3yrs

If your spouse not coming with you, I guess you should stay in Malaysia.
Relationship, in the end, is much more important than SGD.

Totally agree. Money is not everything!

actually we alrdy had plans to move to SG..she can go anytime to visit me because she has close relatives there..her mum also often fly to SG for biz purpose..so is the offer good enough or should ask for more?

New job offer
Job Title : Application Developer
Job Desciption : To supp SAP Bw and Abap
Age : 29
Years spent in company : -
Industry : Traveling
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 4
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in computer science and sap abap associate certified
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours

Monetary Payout:
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : MYR8500 + performance bonus


Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Paid medical check-up, medical insurance
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : Staff price on travel package

Current job
Job Title : Senior Consultant
Job Desciption : SAP development
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 4
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : -
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in computer science and sap abap associate certified
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): Very flexible. Official time stated is 9-6.

Monetary Payout:
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : MYR 7100 + 13 month bonus


Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medical insurance, travel insurance
Transport Benefits : office parking claimable if client side MYR50 per diem ( no claimn for onsite )
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Other Benefits : Work from home most of the time and if work on weekend or holiday replacement leave given


I have recently come across this opportunity, do you think the offer is good to take? Or I should try to request for more?

This post has been edited by llthim: Aug 14 2018, 03:21 PM

Can't just look at the package in totality, there are a lot of factors to be considered. Yes you are getting 7k increment which is by itself a whopping 63% more. In any case i would have jumped straight in. However:

1. Since you are not a PR, no CPF for you but that would also mean your take home pay is higher. But you lose out on the 12-15% epf contribution by your Malaysian MNC employer
2. Effective Tax Rate is lower in Singapore so that is a plus.
3. What is your objective in going to Sg? Do you want to settle down in SG and your fiance will follow suit in the future? or are you just aiming to be there for a short period to earn SGD with the long term aim to be back in Malaysia to settle down? These are very important question that needs to be answered. (Having kids in SG is not a cheap affair if you dont plan to settle down in SG i.e getting a PR)
4. Prepare to fork out 600-1000sgd for a decent room depending on location. For co-habitation with your fiance, it is going to be more.
5. Long term Career progression. Are there still growth at where you are now? Or are you looking to go out of your comfort zone? Are you prepared to leave your professional network that you have built in your current company/country?

for the first 1-2years yes i won't b getting CPF but tat is inevitable..once i get PR then it won't matter much anymore

plan to migrate and settle down there but first need to gain the life experience to see if suitable for me..so will give myself couple of years..yes we have plans alrdy..well i can see my career growth in SG will b better..i change jobs every 2-3years so leaving here not an issue..

This post has been edited by yamasce: Aug 15 2018, 12:01 PM

I guess you have made up your mind then. Good luck and all the best to you.

Very nice title you got there haha

Perhaps work for another year then ask for a raise? You should be getting 4k already

Pay is actually quite good already for a fresh grad getting 3.5k basic. but no additional allowance other than phone
After 1.5 or 2 years ask for a raise? Else better jumpship if one can offer you 3.5-4k.

Bro. Rule of thumb should be dollar to dollar about 20 percent less. Ur current 11k now best scenario is should be about 9k. 6k in Sg not a lot particularly if u are already servicing a house loan now in Malaysia.
6k then u need 1k for rent. Then ur Malaysia home about 700 sgd? Assuming 500k house. Left 4.3, minus expenses maybe 1.5k. U 11k salary and single u cannot save 4.5k a month?

I did my calculations also coz I was hoping for an offer similar like urs. After calculate the little extra is not worth leaving my family and kid.

This post has been edited by chickenshit36: Aug 15 2018, 06:32 PM

Bro. The rule of thumb does not work as we move up the salary band.

Fresh grad SG and fresh grad MY both range similar, between 3-4K (in respective currency)
Once you reach higher level, the Malaysian salary slowly catches to SG level (after conversion)
Typical 5k SGD job, Malaysia pays RM8k (exec/snr exec)
Typical 8k SGD job, Malaysia pays RM14k (lead)
Typical 10k+ SGD job, Malaysia pays RM20k+ (manager/head)

ps. I’m talking about MNC companies, chinaman company in sg and my both have out of whack compensations

Not to mention Singapore effective tax is wayyy lower (especially compared to high income bracket Malaysian jobs)

rule of thumb or not..like wat @yunodie has mentioned..it also depends on other factors and future plans..some times in order to achieve something greater a little sacrifices are inevitable..of coz it will b much harder if u alrdy hv wife n kids..there is no right or wrong decisions..it all depends on tat person's perspectives n goals..

First post here but here we go:

Job Title : Cloud Telephony Platform Engineer
Job Description: Basically a Level 4 Voice Engineer dealing with Contact Center IP PBX system, but also handles dealing with other aspects of a "cloud" platform i.e. work with Infra/Platform, Networks, Storage, DB, Telco provider, Software Vendor etc to resolve issues for customer
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 1
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Exec
Experience before joining (years) : 5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSC Hons Comp Science
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): Should be 40 but end up doing a heck lot more, I can say worst has been 60-80 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM8500 + RM150 Internet + RM120 Mobile + RM400 On Call Shift Allowance = RM9170
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Depends if team meets KPI, but never seen any figure to what it actually is

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Standard Medical Insurance + RM75 gym claim
Transport Benefits : None
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Flexi Working Hours : Yes but KL bosses talk behind your back as they don't like it, but don't openly say it
Other Benefits : None

I feel underpaid & underappreciated for the amount of work I do for this company. Maybe its because I am too kind when it comes to helping others. I am honestly looking to move on but SIP/VOIP opportunities seem to be very scarce these days.

Was talking to some recruiters, there's a very large salary range one job title can have

I asked to look into a solutions architect position with 10+ years of experience. Dimension Data is paying RM12-15k per month, a few other companies in the middle around RM18-21k, Avanade was looking at RM22-28k

I shouldn't be surprised though, this falls exactly in the range of the current Robert Walters salary survey for KL 2018

wouldn't surprise me thou .. me n my friend break the 10k range before 30s with ccie cert. experienced senior IT guy is on demand right now. very difficult to find one in the market. thus the bargain power in on our hand.

CCIE SP or R&S?

I've got sp & dc. my friend with r&s, but he is now principle of a vendor. earning big bucks

Job Title : Mechanical Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Propose and design custom made machines, specifically for semiconductor automation and giant well-known customers.
Age : 25
Years spent in company : 1 year and 10 months
Company : Local Listed SME
Industry : Automation/Manufacturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : -
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): Officialy 47.5 hours, but expected lots of OT everyday

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 2900
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1k incentives (2-3times per annum)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : RM500 (Medical & Dental)
Transport Benefits :-
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :-
Flexi Working Hours :Allow to come later for half an hour.
Other Benefits :-

Am I underpaid? How is the market now? Seeking for honest advice, thanks in advance to all senpai here...