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fengcgf
post Apr 20 2018, 10:30 AM

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Job Title : Data Analyst
Job Desciption : Collect data
Age : 23
Years spent in company : 1 mnth
Company : LSEG Malaysia
Industry : Financial
Tenure : Probation
Employment Level : Entry
Experience before joining (years) : Fresh
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Sarawak
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 7

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 2500
Contractual Bonus (months): dont know yet
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : dont know yet

Benefits (where relevant) : myr600 spectacles
Health Benefits : myr 650 medical card
Transport Benefits : 0
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 0
Flexi Working Hours : no
Other Benefits : no
shadowzephyr
post Apr 20 2018, 11:53 AM

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Job Title : Sr Software Engineer
Job Description : system integration development life-cycle dealing with multiple agencies system at the same time (from requirement gathering to development & deployment, not to mention assisting support team on tech issue dry.gif )
Age : 29
Years spent in company : Nearly 6 years
Company : Local
Industry : Software house
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Cyberjaya
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hrs (9 hrs per day inc 1 hr lunch)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM4100 basic (increased 3 times after performance review, started at 2700) + RM500 professional allowance + RM300 transportation allowance
Contractual Bonus (months): none
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : got 1 month bonus twice last time, 2014 - 2015 IIRC. After that, none.

Benefits (where relevant)
Health Benefits : Medical card (single, not family)
Transport Benefits : Fixed transport allowance given as mentioned above
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : company laptop
Flexi Working Hours : none
Other Benefits : none

What do you think? For me, I believe that I'm underpaid & bit overloaded, and the company is not really stable right now (few issues with current projects that delay few salaries of all staffs, after no such records since I've joined). However, I kinda like the current job & having close team members, the company is quite near from my rented home, and I've been officially offered a manager position by mid of this year (with few hundreds increment only laugh.gif), so I honestly not sure should I jump to other company soon or stay for a while to see.

Furthermore if I quit, I'm sure there will be issue of getting replacement and knowledge transfer which further impact the current project that I'm focusing upon for past few years, mainly due to limited resources and specialized technology (hence the professional allowance).

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post Apr 20 2018, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(shadowzephyr @ Apr 20 2018, 11:53 AM)
Job Title : Sr Software Engineer
Job Description : system integration development life-cycle dealing with multiple agencies system at the same time (from requirement gathering to development & deployment, not to mention assisting support team on tech issue  dry.gif )
Age : 29
Years spent in company : Nearly 6 years
Company : Local
Industry : Software house
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Cyberjaya
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hrs (9 hrs per day inc 1 hr lunch)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM4100 basic (increased 3 times after performance review, started at 2700) + RM500 professional allowance + RM300 transportation allowance
Contractual Bonus (months): none
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : got 1 month bonus twice last time, 2014 - 2015 IIRC. After that, none.

Benefits (where relevant)
Health Benefits : Medical card (single, not family)
Transport Benefits : Fixed transport allowance given as mentioned above
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : company laptop
Flexi Working Hours : none
Other Benefits : none

What do you think? For me, I believe that I'm underpaid & bit overloaded, and the company is not really stable right now (few issues with current projects that delay few salaries of all staffs, after no such records since I've joined). However, I kinda like the current job & having close team members, the company is quite near from my rented home, and I've been officially offered a manager position by mid of this year (with few hundreds increment only laugh.gif), so I honestly not sure should I jump to other company soon or stay for a while to see.

Furthermore if I quit, I'm sure there will be issue of getting replacement and knowledge transfer which further impact the current project that I'm focusing upon for past few years, mainly due to limited resources and specialized technology (hence the professional allowance).
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First of all, I would like to congrats on your new role as manager and my hat's off to you for staying longer in the same company.

I think based on your experiences in handling end-to-end project, I think you are in demand on the market. Just make sure your skills in programming is relevant to the latest tech.

Yes you ARE underpaid, but the downsize of this is that you are not specialize in certain area that you can request for better salary and remuneration. If you DO specialize in certain area, that's fine.

You can change to different area such as becoming Business Analyst/System Analyst/Project Manager, or become support specialist. It's up to you.

You are also have difficulties to find opportunity elsewhere because you are comfortable with your current work and colleagues. But do know you are young and its better to challenge yourself and seek out of your comfort zone.

Good luck and all the best in your career.

This post has been edited by Dead4Life: Apr 20 2018, 02:57 PM
shadowzephyr
post Apr 20 2018, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Apr 20 2018, 12:09 PM)
First of all, I would like to congrats on your new role as manager and my hat's off to you for staying longer in the same company.

I think based on your experiences in handling end-to-end project, I think you are in demand on the market. Just make sure your skills in programming is relevant to the latest tech.

Yes you ARE underpaid, but the downsize of this is that you are not specialize in certain area that you can request for better salary and remuneration. If you DO specialize in certain area, that's fine.

You can change to different area such as becoming Business Analyst/System Analyst/Project Manager, or become support specialist. It's up to you.

You are also has difficulties to find opportunity elsewhere because you are comfortable with your current work and colleagues. But do know you are young and its better to challenge yourself and seek out of your comfort zone.

Good luck and all the best in your career.
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Thank you, that's a very encouraging answer that I'm looking for. biggrin.gif

I agree, while I think of myself that I'm in a focused job (as 'integration specialist' or something), at the same I do feels like I'm actually not, since I'm doing end-to-end task of it. I'll try to look into similar area if possible, if not, the one that you suggest really helpful to consider.

Indeed, that's the dilemma that I have right now (in a comfort zone), and what you're saying is basically confirms it. I'll do my best to improve my career. Though, I do feel bad to the company if I leave, even if I know that I'm not supposed to get too attached with them.


recca89
post Apr 20 2018, 05:37 PM

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Joined: Oct 2014
Job Title : Network Engineer
Job Desciption : Managing projects and incident tickets
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 0.5 years
Company : US
Industry :
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 7
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 55-60 hours per week

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM11K + ~500 OT
Contractual Bonus (months): NA
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : NA

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : RM100 per month
Transport Benefits : NA
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : NA
Other Benefits : NA

Got an offer for 15K with similar job scope(still thinking) but sometimes I'm just thinking of trying to apply to be cadet pilot lol. Since I'm not young.. thinking whether it's worth it to back to square 1.

This post has been edited by recca89: Apr 20 2018, 05:39 PM
chocoshaun93
post Apr 21 2018, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Apr 12 2018, 08:27 AM)
Actually for admin, the job is quite stagnant and there is limitation in career progression.
2.8k @ 24 y/o on admin job actually is quite high already leh.
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Yea you're right but really cannot because confirmed won't get promote anymore. Are you doing admin or studied business admin as well? Really no idea what job to go for.
chocoshaun93
post Apr 21 2018, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Apr 12 2018, 09:34 AM)
What's your interest like after doing admin job?

And why resign before get new offer
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I actually quite interested in doing sales after I did admin job, at least I get the chance to go outside instead of staying in the office although I finished my tasks.
any idea what kind of job business admin people can go for?

The reason I resign at the first because they hired an inexperience and don't know anything of supervisor to handle we the juniors instead of promotes one of us and increase our wages.
chocoshaun93
post Apr 21 2018, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(bunny65 @ Apr 12 2018, 11:43 AM)
From a hiring point of view, I would be wary of hiring you specifically because you seem to have spent little time in a single role before quitting. Experience is crucial for fresh grads as well as employees with less than 2 years of work experience. So when you mentioned quitting in less than a year merely because you didn't see any room for improvement/learning, it indicates lack of patience and loyalty hence you're probably only going to last 8-9 months with me.

Not saying job-hopping is bad, because it's the most efficient way to increase your income. However, the risk you are taking here is that recruiters/HR departments are looking at the dates in your resumes and thinking of the worst case scenario. To be successful in job-hopping, you need to have professional connections and network with recruiters and other HR personnel. Unless you can figure out a way to express the reasons you quit in a clear and concise way that will not jeopardize your chances in a new position, then you shouldn't have quit before securing another offer.

Please enlighten us as to what industry/field you are aspiring to be in. What is your long term career goal? Any interests at all?
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Thank you for the awesome reply from you sir. The reason why I quit is because i feeling like no more motivation / passion for me to work in the same tasks over again and again. I really really want to get a job that I passionate with. Therefore, I quit and focus look for another job.

I'm interested to do sales or online marketing after I did admin job, because I touch a bit with this industry during my admin job. Any job suggestion from you sir? I really would like to know what kind of job I can go for according to my working experience.
spoonudus
post Apr 22 2018, 01:53 PM

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Job Title : Scientist
Job Desciption : Head of section in a department
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 8-9 years
Company : MNC
Industry : O&G
Tenure : Permenant
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSC in USA
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours per week (standard malaysia working hour)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 17.6k
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-12mths, it does varies a lot throughout the years. only few can get the max bonus as usual, id say average bonus for the majority hovers around 2-4 month.

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Comprehensive medical insurance
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : none
Flexi Working Hours : yes, 7am-7pm
Other Benefits : Relocation, business travel, training, car and housing loans.

SamChua
post Apr 23 2018, 10:38 AM

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Hello guys.I am considering with information system engineering at degree^^.Is system analyst/system engineer/database admin job good in the future?How much can I get with fresh graduate?Under rm 2500?thanks^^

This post has been edited by SamChua: Apr 23 2018, 10:40 AM
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post Apr 23 2018, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(recca89 @ Apr 20 2018, 05:37 PM)
Job Title : Network Engineer
Job Desciption : Managing projects and incident tickets
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 0.5 years
Company : US
Industry :
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 7
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 55-60 hours per week

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM11K + ~500 OT
Contractual Bonus (months): NA
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : NA

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : RM100 per month
Transport Benefits : NA
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : NA
Other Benefits : NA

Got an offer for 15K with similar job scope(still thinking) but sometimes I'm just thinking of trying to apply to be cadet pilot lol. Since I'm not young.. thinking whether it's worth it to back to square 1.
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Wow. My title currently is Network Engineer also. More to network security. Really can got that high? rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
g2761154
post Apr 23 2018, 01:49 PM

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Job Title : IT System Engineer
Job Desciption : Software Support & Development
Age : 24 When Joining. Now 28
Years spent in company : 4
Industry : IT Software
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Junior when joining. Senior after 3 years
Experience before joining (years) : 2
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSc Computer Science
Location : Melaka
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 3150 when starting. Now RM3800
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : mths 2.5

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : claimable but limited. (Very little coverage or none)
Transport Benefits : claimable if outstation
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Claimable monthly line
Flexi Working Hours : No. but can ask to work from home.
Other Benefits :
Good Boss
Claimable RM1000 Annual flexy benefit.

Got another job offer where I'll be starting June this year.

Job Title : IT Support Engineer
Job Desciption : Software Support & Development
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 0
Industry : IT Software
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSc Computer Science
Location : Kuala Lumpur
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary: RM 5700
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : not yet. But the lowest average is 2mnths.


Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Me & Family
Transport Benefits : claimable if outstation
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : No
Flexi Working Hours : No. but can ask to work from home.
Other Benefits : Can claim OT

This post has been edited by g2761154: Apr 23 2018, 02:01 PM
SamChua
post Apr 23 2018, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(g2761154 @ Apr 23 2018, 01:49 PM)
Job Title : IT System Engineer
Job Desciption : Software  Support & Development
Age : 24 When Joining. Now 28
Years spent in company : 4
Industry : IT Software
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Junior when joining. Senior after 3 years
Experience before joining (years) : 2
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSc Computer Science
Location : Melaka
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 3150  when starting. Now RM3800
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) :  mths 2.5

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : claimable but limited. (Very little coverage or none)
Transport Benefits : claimable if outstation
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Claimable monthly line
Flexi Working Hours : No. but can ask to work from home.
Other Benefits :
Good Boss
Claimable RM1000 Annual flexy benefit.

Got another job offer where I'll be starting June this year.

Job Title : IT Support Engineer
Job Desciption : Software  Support & Development
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 0
Industry : IT Software
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSc Computer Science
Location : Kuala Lumpur
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary: RM 5700
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : not yet. But the lowest average is 2mnths.
Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Me & Family
Transport Benefits : claimable if outstation
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : No
Flexi Working Hours : No. but can ask to work from home.
Other Benefits : Can claim OT
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I think u're underpaid

This post has been edited by SamChua: Apr 23 2018, 03:46 PM
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post Apr 23 2018, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(SamChua @ Apr 23 2018, 03:46 PM)
I think u're underpaid
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But he may prefer the work life balance
Darrel1991
post Apr 23 2018, 05:57 PM

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Job Title : .NET Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Software Development
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 3 years
Industry : IT Software
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Mid Tier
Experience before joining (years) : 3 year
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma in IT
Location : Kuala Lumpur
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): no punch card

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary: RM 4000
Bonus : Mostly 2 months.

Am i underpaid ???


g2761154
post Apr 23 2018, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(SamChua @ Apr 23 2018, 03:46 PM)
I think u're underpaid
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I thought so too. But haven't got any better offer. So need to stick to what I currently have.
SamChua
post Apr 24 2018, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(g2761154 @ Apr 23 2018, 07:49 PM)
I thought so too. But haven't got any better offer. So need to stick to what I currently have.
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Degree in information system engineering?
SamChua
post Apr 24 2018, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Darrel1991 @ Apr 23 2018, 05:57 PM)
Job Title : .NET Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Software Development
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 3 years
Industry : IT Software
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Mid Tier
Experience before joining (years) : 3 year
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma in IT
Location : Kuala Lumpur
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): no punch card

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary: RM 4000
Bonus : Mostly 2 months.

Am i underpaid ???
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Emm i think it's okey already for diploma

SamChua
post Apr 24 2018, 01:30 AM

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So,anybody degree in information system engineering here?
nufan
post Apr 24 2018, 02:13 PM

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anyone from O&G industry here? just wondering how much are you earning in the current market condition?

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