erm, slightly different from me...I was invited to Technical Assessment week earlier...one week after that, been invited to SI..during that SI, i'm doing Case Study and followed up with CBI afterward...no role play for me, as they mention experience candidate can skip that part...

Some of my good friends are in the Facilities side of things but the exact nature of their job I am not so sure since I'm a subsurface guy.

I think that is probably because you have working experience so they go for Technical Interview first and once they decided to possibly offer you a permanent position, then they asked for the SI.

Hi bro azraeil.. I was seconded to maintenance department (mechanical engineering) as well.. may I know how your friends (those in the facilities) have been doing?

I am a bit concerned with my prospects, worrying that dealing with plant maintenance can be a "dead-end" job, hence it is hard to move up the ladder..

This post has been edited by Kitteh: Nov 27 2012, 09:06 PM

The friends I have in the Facilities side are those involved in the platform design, compressors specs and usually the FEED aspect (Front End Engineering Design). Most of them are now GMs and SMs in their respective area.

To those who have been to PIPE, do we need to bring our own iron or it will be provided at the hostel?

I see. Thanks for your reply.

I would suspect though is that if you start on the Maintenance side of things, you will have an advantage in the future once you move to the design/specs of things as you will have hands on experience.

I hope so. I would love to have more options or opportunities once I am more experienced.

At the mean time, I just can't wait to join and start absorbing as much knowledge I can. Other than having the right attitudes - willing to learn and ask the right questions & attend as much courses, training as I can & network, any other advices from you to a fresh graduate?

i have one for you; do not complain so much of not being able to move up the ladder when you do not even started working yet. just be thankful you got the job when thousands others don't. open up your mind and do not be like those typical fresh grads. i sure hope that you don't end up at my opu though.

Well I beg to differ. For me personally its totally the oposite, SapuraCrest (before the merger) is hell lot more biased when giving ratings to staff (which will affect your bonus, obviously). At least in Petronas they go to the PDC sitting committee of which all the bosses shall discuss, scrutinize their staffs performance and get agreement (except the unpopular force ranking, M3 which comes later after that, process-wise). For Sapura your boss will have the ultimatum and this method will work best only with fair & honest bosses. Not to mention without any buttkissing staffs (which is a lot, btw).

Snap back to reality today, I believe Petronas is paying lot more for fresh grad than so called "not local company". Not to mention the increment after 1 year (for Tier 1 or 2 execs). I know its lot more than what SapuraKencana is paying for their freshies.

This is all from my humble experience.

P/s: Btw did u get the offer? How much are they offering you, personally?

Maintenance dept is the most challenging dept especially if you are handling brown field. You are dealing with equipment breakdown on frequent basis, that is how you get your knowledge/experience which are totally priceless and very valuable, you are also handling different type of service providers which will enhance your people managing skill as every service provider has different working attitude, so you have to be very persuasive and flexible to deal with them. You also have knowledge on the operation side, contract management, cost control/management and etc.
Maintenance is a all rounder job. If you have maintenance background, you can always move to facilities design position later since you know all the constraints, operation, problems for the equipment. However, if you are from facilities design position but want to move into maintenance dept, you will find it very hard due to lack of hands on experience.
The only bad side is, you will have to be standby 24/7 and be very proactive. It can literally drain your energy as time goes by.

Based on your logic, no one shall question, complain or compare about their job because thousands of people out there are unemployed. IMHO, it is only natural to ponder about the future prospects even before I've started working. I am merely voicing out my concerns while seeking for others' opinions. Anyway, thanks for your advice. I will keep that in mind.

I am forever thankful for being given a chance to develop my skills under Petronas, especially when I am a non-scholar. I am not recruited because of any bond.

Lastly, don't worry, I am not seconded to PMO.

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Added on November 29, 2012, 12:14 amThank you for the detailed descriptions of the job. I now know what to expect and look forward to. It is reassuring to know that I get to deal and work with different service providers as I enjoy interaction with people.

Thanks again.

This post has been edited by Kitteh: Nov 29 2012, 12:14 AM

do you think my chance to get the job at petronas is bigger if i have my industrial training there?

yeah. i'm wondering this too.

Bro are you with Petronas? I fully understand Petronas rating since I came from its subsidiaries 5-6 years back ago, yes am totally agree to survive in SapuraKencana you need have good relationship with boss. They not rating because of performance work but its buttkissing culture. Ops is not all of the bosses are doing but it almost.

During the interview I already reject the offer due to;

1- Not satisfy the job scope...I'm looking and apply the Verification Engineer... during interview as me to do Mechanical Engineer
2- Low salary which at the time looking for RM 8k also cannot get.

Now, I decided to follow the EPCC contractor again and will strengthen up my experience first before join client side.

conclusion???

Just wondering, From PETH can join the PCSB or not? The benefit,bonus,entitlement same for both OPU or not?

I don't think they will release you to PCSB easy. It is the same case for me where I was recruited for PRSB and I wanted to go to PCSB and there is people in PCSB who want me but I can't go unless PRSB is willing to release me.

It is difficult for OPU who request you to release since they are also short of people. Unless they recruite you for suka2.

They will tell you in Petronas there is mobility between OPUs. But for my case there is no such thing. Welcome to Petronas.

Still thinking want to go or not bro, I have done my TA long time ago, now they email ask to come to their office for chit chat session.
As for now, not decided yet and assure I'm more interested in PCSB to doing project. Furthermore I also dont know they can gives wages which I request it before. E2 or E3 for maximum is how much?

how long have u been working bro and how much are you requesting? just give some rough numbers