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azraeil
post Nov 16 2012, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 15 2012, 07:48 PM)
I wished...if that is possible. Getting hardship allowances (1600 monthly) and offshore allowance (85 per day).

Hmm..I am still wondering, what does drilling engineer do?

I see that most (if not all) of drilling works are done by services companies and drilling contractors. Starting from spudding a well, drilling, wireline, casing, cementing and completion are all done by services company. Even drilling monitoring is done by mudlogging company. Setting TD for a well is decided by geologists. Drilling fluid and solid control are maintained and monitored by mud engineer. Drilling (building, drop and maintain angle) a well technically done directional driller. All dirty and hard works like making up BHA, tripping in/out DP..by rig crews

I don't think fresh grad drilling engineer can be company/night man. They are not competent enough to manage a drilling rig. Becoming a company man requires many years of offshore experiences mainly on drilling operations.
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A drilling engineer needs to know all of the things you mentioned above. He needs to be responsible for the well and if anything were to go wrong, his ass is on the line. He is the one responsible in delivering the well.
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post Nov 16 2012, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 15 2012, 10:34 PM)
Getting promoted is not easy as many people think. But now, HR is going to revised promotion garde from 7 grades to 14 grades to ease people to be promoted. Last time you need to achieve 80% of ACD to be E2. With new scale, 50% you can move the next grade.

So, where is skg25? tier?
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Partially right. Now you have high and low for each grade. i.e. E1 has E1 high and E1 low, E2 has E2 high and E2 low, etc.
E1 low to E1 high, you need to achieve ACD 50%, achieved rating 2 before or achieve consecutive 2times rating 3 within 3 years and etc. The increment will be RM500. From E1 high to E2 low, you need to achieve ACD 80% and etc. Will roll out in Nov.


Added on November 16, 2012, 3:45 am
QUOTE(hj.pet @ Nov 15 2012, 09:05 PM)
How about in my case where i was offered around rm 5000++ starting salary in a skg10 group. Will I be entitled for the tech allowance after a year service with petronas?
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I believe you are an experienced staff so the HR offer you around RM5k salary and normally you might not be entitled to the tech allowance nemore in your basic salary. Best still, check with the HR and ensure you can the black and while. smile.gif


Added on November 16, 2012, 3:49 am
QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 16 2012, 12:48 AM)
I wished...if that is possible. Getting hardship allowances (1600 monthly) and offshore allowance (85 per day).

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Bro, you terbalik the allowance. Offshore allowance is RM1600 and RM85 is the hardship allowance. lol. Btw you will not be entitled to the offshore allowance of RM1600 unless you are working on the 2weeks shift (i.e. operations at offshore).


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post Nov 16 2012, 07:23 AM

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I think there are reasons on why drilling was moved to the all new skg25. They may not do the drilling at the platform themselves, but they must know all the details of the drilling. So they deserved the highest pay, IMO. Btw, you could change to be a drilling engineer after 3 years, provided your background is either petroleum/ mech engineering, and got approval from your current & future bosses.
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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 16 2012, 12:48 AM)
I wished...if that is possible. Getting hardship allowances (1600 monthly) and offshore allowance (85 per day).

Hmm..I am still wondering, what does drilling engineer do?

I see that most (if not all) of drilling works are done by services companies and drilling contractors. Starting from spudding a well, drilling, wireline, casing, cementing and completion are all done by services company. Even drilling monitoring is done by mudlogging company. Setting TD for a well is decided by geologists. Drilling fluid and solid control are maintained and monitored by mud engineer. Drilling (building, drop and maintain angle) a well technically done directional driller. All dirty and hard works like making up BHA, tripping in/out DP..by rig crews

I don't think fresh grad drilling engineer can be company/night man. They are not competent enough to manage a drilling rig. Becoming a company man requires many years of offshore experiences mainly on drilling operations.
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I know a few friends in Carigali went to a so called fast track program...Start going to the rig as a drilling/wellsite engineer and after a few years become a nightman...huhuhu...I also wondering whether PCSB still has this program....
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post Nov 16 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Nov 16 2012, 03:43 AM)
Partially right. Now you have high and low for each grade. i.e. E1 has E1 high and E1 low, E2 has E2 high and E2 low, etc.
E1 low to E1 high, you need to achieve ACD 50%, achieved rating 2 before or achieve consecutive 2times rating 3 within 3 years and etc. The increment will be RM500. From E1 high to E2 low, you need to achieve ACD 80% and etc. Will roll out in Nov.


Added on November 16, 2012, 3:45 am
I believe you are an experienced staff so the HR offer you around RM5k salary and normally you might not be entitled to the tech allowance nemore in your basic salary. Best still, check with the HR and ensure you can the black and while. smile.gif


Added on November 16, 2012, 3:49 am

Bro, you terbalik the allowance. Offshore allowance is RM1600 and RM85 is the hardship allowance. lol. Btw you will not be entitled to the offshore allowance of RM1600 unless you are working on the 2weeks shift (i.e. operations at offshore).
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Does the RM800 technical allowance entitled for those fresh grad where their basic are 4k? I am in process, skg 16.

I heard that January onwards fresh grad basic 5k, then existing staff get 20% increment, is it true?
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Nov 16 2012, 06:00 AM)
Does the RM800 technical allowance entitled for those fresh grad where their basic are 4k? I am in process, skg 16.

I heard that January onwards fresh grad basic 5k, then existing staff get 20% increment, is it true?
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:51 PM

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Added on November 16, 2012, 2:54 pm
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Does the RM800 technical allowance entitled for those fresh grad in technical (eg SKG16) where their basic are 4k?

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post Nov 16 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Nov 16 2012, 09:51 AM)

Added on November 16, 2012, 2:54 pm

Does the RM800 technical allowance entitled for those fresh grad in technical (eg SKG16) where their basic are 4k?
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mangoman has already mentioned that if your SKG is either in Tier 1 or Tier 2, then you will get a bump in basic salary after one year of service.
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post Nov 16 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 16 2012, 03:19 PM)
mangoman has already mentioned that if your SKG is either in Tier 1 or Tier 2, then you will get a bump in basic salary after one year of service.
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Thanks abang azraeil for ur patient in answering my question.
Would we get any increment in our basic salary after one year? If yes, normally how many percent? Is the increment based on ur ppa rating?
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post Nov 16 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Nov 16 2012, 10:47 AM)
Thanks abang azraeil for ur patient in answering my question.
Would we get any increment in our basic salary after one year? If yes, normally how many percent? Is the increment based on ur ppa rating?
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Yes, after one year, depending I when you join Petronas, you will get your normal annual increment. The quantum will be dependent on your performance based on the PPA rating.
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post Nov 16 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Nov 16 2012, 03:47 PM)
Thanks abang azraeil for ur patient in answering my question.
Would we get any increment in our basic salary after one year? If yes, normally how many percent? Is the increment based on ur ppa rating?
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Yes, based on PPA rating. For last year because it was not a full financial year (9 months only), so rating 3 get 8%, 2 get 9% whereas 1 get 10%.

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post Nov 16 2012, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ar_zaem @ Oct 29 2012, 10:01 PM)
i just ask someone from petronas. they say that each department gives different allowance based on their budget to the internship trainee. so, does anyone knows how much the allowance for degree in accountancy?
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I also just got offer from Petronas.but will at SCM department
When will you be starting at

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post Nov 16 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Nov 16 2012, 03:43 AM)
Partially right. Now you have high and low for each grade. i.e. E1 has E1 high and E1 low, E2 has E2 high and E2 low, etc.
E1 low to E1 high, you need to achieve ACD 50%, achieved rating 2 before or achieve consecutive 2times rating 3 within 3 years and etc. The increment will be RM500. From E1 high to E2 low, you need to achieve ACD 80% and etc. Will roll out in Nov.
When I go through my ACD TI&R Ruler (reservoir technology sub-discipline of RE), there is no E1, it starts with E2 (level 3) with an average rating 1. Can u explained, I am a bit confused here. Plus mine has base, key, pacing and emerging.

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Added on November 16, 2012, 9:24 pm
QUOTE(amely @ Nov 16 2012, 08:40 PM)
I also just got offer from Petronas.but will at SCM department
When will you be starting at
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AT prsb, intern get rm800

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post Nov 16 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 16 2012, 09:15 PM)
When I go through my ACD TI&R Ruler (reservoir technology sub-discipline of RE), there is no E1, it starts with E2 (level 3) with an average rating 1. Can u explained, I am a bit confused here. Plus mine has base, key, pacing and emerging.

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Added on November 16, 2012, 9:24 pm

Coz you already at E1 so that's why no E1 column. In order for you to go to E2, you need to refer to the E2 column.
P/S: In other words, you need to achieve 50%/80% in base and key for you to move to E1 high/E2 low.

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post Nov 17 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 16 2012, 02:08 PM)
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Bro, I need your advice on this.

I am a process engineer with nearly 2 years exp in oil and gas consultancy industry. I nee you to advise me based on your experience which one is best for me... i really need to have clear picture on my situation right now. I've got an offer letter from petronas and another company in KL... can you help me on the following issues:

1) with petronas i will work as a process engineer at one of its plant with basic salary of it freshie ( i think i shud not explain anymore about petronas to you, they are already well known). with the another company, a new company in Malaysia which has just open its office in Malaysia doing consultancy in upstream engineering and project management for project around the world. they are expert in FPSO, Cost reduction analysis, Process simplification and other engineering dicipline. they only have 30-50 staffs which spread through out the world with its based in houston, london and newest (KL). most (about 90%) of its staff have 25 years exp and above. my position there is process engineer and will be under the supervision of one principal process engineer with 33 years exp. ok... comparing these two...which one do you think will benefit me in term of career development and my future as a engineer.

2) to be honest, i love to stay in KL and like to do fundamental engineering analysis compare to operating existing facilities. in case of i choose to work with petronas, do i have any chance to return back to design engineering field which I love most. is there any opportunity for me to return to KL after develop my career at Plant environment.


This third question is open for all... it is true that petronas will increase the basik salary to 5k...because during the interview one of its hr tell me that i will get 5k basic slary...but in the offer letter it turns to be 4k...wahhh...maybe in january or what the 5k salary will be implement??? rclxub.gif
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post Nov 17 2012, 02:55 PM

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Unfortunately, your basic pay will be rm4k as stated in your offer letter.
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post Nov 17 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Nov 16 2012, 11:54 PM)
Coz you already at E1 so that's why no E1 column. In order for you to go to E2, you need to refer to the E2 column.
P/S: In other words, you need to achieve 50%/80% in base and key for you to move to E1 high/E2 low.
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Thanks bro...
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post Nov 17 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Sun Nan @ Nov 17 2012, 07:46 AM)
Bro, I need your advice on this.

I am a process engineer with nearly 2 years exp in oil and gas consultancy industry. I nee you to advise me based on your experience which one is best for me... i really need to have clear picture on my situation right now. I've got an offer letter from petronas and another company in KL... can you help me on the following issues:

1) with petronas i will work as a process engineer at one of its plant with basic salary of it freshie ( i think i shud not explain anymore about petronas to you, they are already well known). with the another company, a new company in Malaysia which has just open its office in Malaysia doing consultancy in upstream engineering and project management for project around the world. they are expert in FPSO, Cost reduction analysis, Process simplification and other engineering dicipline. they only have 30-50 staffs which spread through out the world with its based in houston, london and newest (KL). most (about 90%) of its staff have 25 years exp and above. my position there is process engineer and will be under the supervision of one principal process engineer with 33 years exp. ok... comparing these two...which one do you think will benefit me in term of career development and my future as a engineer.

2) to be honest, i love to stay in KL and like to do fundamental engineering analysis compare to operating existing facilities. in case of i choose to work with petronas, do i have any chance to return back to design engineering field which I love most. is there any opportunity for me to return to KL after develop my career at Plant environment.
This third question is open for all... it is true that petronas will increase the basik salary to 5k...because during the interview one of its hr tell me that i will get 5k basic slary...but in the offer letter it turns to be 4k...wahhh...maybe in january or what the 5k salary will be implement???  rclxub.gif
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I'm from the Upstream side of the business so my advice will always be tinged with some Upstream bias. The fact that I'm not that familiar to the downstream side of the business will also render my advice one sided so take it with a pinch of salt.

Listen to your heart. If your love is in design engineering then I would say go with the small company which sounds to me like a dream job.

If you stick with Petronas working in a Plant where the assign you to Kerteh/Gurun/Melaka then you will be there for a minimum of 3-4 years. I'm sure that you can request for a transfer back to KL but then again, you will need to prove to headquarters that the experience you gained in the plant can be used in other OPUs.

Good Luck.
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post Nov 17 2012, 05:48 PM

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Yay... Petronas marriage policy has been revoked

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That was one of the stupidest policy by the previous VP of HR (Now one of EVP). Some say that he cannot even go to his office because he felt so "panas". The main people affected by that policy was the non-exec so you can imagine how pissed off they were. I don't know where he got his advice from nut obviously it was a boneheaded idea.

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