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iamloco
post Nov 12 2012, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 11 2012, 11:45 AM)
Reservoir engineer are one of the most sought after skill set in the industry. With 5-7 years experience in reservoir engineering, you will be very valuable in the industry.
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Is it true that RE are paid higher than other engineers in petronas?

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post Nov 12 2012, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(iamloco @ Nov 12 2012, 01:34 AM)
Is it true that RE are paid higher than other engineers in petronas?
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It's been a long time since I left the company and things must have changed but previously, yes, RE are given speciall skill allowance but I am told that allowance has been absorbed into the base pay (so technically existing technical staff do have a higher salary than other personnel in Petronas, but I'm not sure if this is true for incoming new staff).
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post Nov 13 2012, 07:38 AM

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Bro Azraeil,

It is true that Saudi Aramco hire people on 2 years contract and they want new hire to teach Saudi people. Until their people become competent enough to replace the expat then they will not renew the employment contract.
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post Nov 13 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(iamloco @ Nov 12 2012, 06:34 AM)
Is it true that RE are paid higher than other engineers in petronas?
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the skill group post that is petroleum engineering based (re, drilling, p tech) is classified as SKG10 while G&G related post (petrophysicist, geologist, geophysicist, sedimentologist, etc) is classified as SKG9. and both these classes are located on the top of the skill group pyramid level, tier 1. position such as mech eng, ee eng, structural eng is classified as SKG16 and they are located in tier 2 in the pyramid. iinm, they are 4 tier total in petronas. i couldnt remember all to discuss here unfortunately.

having said this, yes, being in tier 1 in petronas would be paid higher compared to other skill group in the organization.
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post Nov 13 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 13 2012, 02:38 AM)
Bro Azraeil,

It is true that Saudi Aramco hire people on 2 years contract and they want new hire to teach Saudi people. Until their people become competent enough to replace the expat then they will not renew the employment contract.
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No. Aramco almost always (there are exceptions) people on Indefinite Term basis (permanent). Yes there are Saudization process but at minimum you'll get to stay in the company for 10 years if you want.

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post Nov 13 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 12 2012, 01:10 PM)
It's been a long time since I left the company and things must have changed but previously, yes, RE are given speciall skill allowance but I am told that allowance has been absorbed into the base pay (so technically existing technical staff do have a higher salary than other personnel in Petronas, but I'm not sure if this is true for incoming new staff).
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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Nov 13 2012, 11:12 AM)
the skill group post that is petroleum engineering based (re, drilling, p tech) is classified as SKG10 while G&G related post (petrophysicist, geologist, geophysicist, sedimentologist, etc) is classified as SKG9. and both these classes are located on the top of the skill group pyramid level, tier 1. position such as mech eng, ee eng, structural eng is classified as SKG16 and they are located in tier 2 in the pyramid. iinm, they are 4 tier total in petronas. i couldnt remember all to discuss here unfortunately.

having said this, yes, being in tier 1 in petronas would be paid higher compared to other skill group in the organization.
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post Nov 14 2012, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(hj.pet @ Nov 13 2012, 11:12 AM)
the skill group post that is petroleum engineering based (re, drilling, p tech) is classified as SKG10 while G&G related post (petrophysicist, geologist, geophysicist, sedimentologist, etc) is classified as SKG9. and both these classes are located on the top of the skill group pyramid level, tier 1. position such as mech eng, ee eng, structural eng is classified as SKG16 and they are located in tier 2 in the pyramid. iinm, they are 4 tier total in petronas. i couldnt remember all to discuss here unfortunately.

having said this, yes, being in tier 1 in petronas would be paid higher compared to other skill group in the organization.
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There are only 3 tiers. smile.gif

QUOTE(iamloco @ Nov 13 2012, 10:56 PM)
Tq for the info!  thumbup.gif
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To be honest with you, Tier 1 will get RM1000 tech allowance which will be absorbed into your basic salary. Tier 2 will get RM800. Tier 3 none. So in short, you are only RM200 more than other discipline engineers. smile.gif

Edit: You only receive that tech allowance after 1 year of service. Hehe. icon_idea.gif

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post Nov 14 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Nov 14 2012, 02:46 AM)
There are only 3 tiers. smile.gif
To be honest with you, Tier 1 will get RM1000 tech allowance which will be absorbed into your basic salary. Tier 2 will get RM800. Tier 3 none. So in short, you are only RM200 more than other discipline engineers. smile.gif

Edit: You only receive that tech allowance after 1 year of service. Hehe. icon_idea.gif
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That is something new to me.

Lets say I fall under the category of other discipline engineers & I am based in East Malaysia, does that mean I will receive an additional of RM1200 after 1 year of service - RM800 of tech allowance and RM400 of EM allowance (10% of my basic) compared to those who are in Tier 3 and based in Peninsular?
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post Nov 14 2012, 02:39 PM

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Yup. It's a simple math.

After 1 year (let say there's no increment):

Tier 3 in peninsular: rm4000

Tier 2 in east msia: rm4000 + rm800 (tech allowance) + rm 400 (EM allowance)

Difference: rm1200.
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post Nov 14 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(pandikar @ Nov 14 2012, 02:39 PM)
Yup. It's a simple math.

After 1 year (let say there's no increment):

Tier 3 in peninsular: rm4000

Tier 2 in east msia: rm4000 + rm800 (tech allowance) + rm 400 (EM allowance)

Difference: rm1200.
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Is EM allowance also need to wait after 1 year only can get?
what else allowances are we entitled to?

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post Nov 14 2012, 03:39 PM

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EM allowance you will get it immediately.
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post Nov 14 2012, 06:29 PM

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The technical allowance is a bit tricky.
Some say you'll get it after confirmation, which is after 6 months. While some say after 1 year in service.


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post Nov 14 2012, 07:11 PM

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That's awesome. I came with no expectation at all (RM4k basic salary) and I was pleasantly surprised.

Now, I will think twice about switching to a commercial role just to work in the KLCC office. tongue.gif
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post Nov 14 2012, 07:52 PM

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For the technical allowance, u will get it after 1 year. I asked people around me who just confirmed 2 weeks ago and who just completed a year.
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post Nov 14 2012, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 14 2012, 07:52 PM)
For the technical allowance, u will get it after 1 year. I asked people around me who just confirmed 2 weeks ago and who just completed a year.
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after 1 year including probation period? anyway, doesn't the HR explain about this during PIPE or is it already mentioned in the Employee Handbook?

anyway a friend of mine is looking for a room starting this December at Petronas Penapisan Melaka, anyone with contacts please PM me.
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post Nov 14 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(AtMostFear @ Nov 14 2012, 09:09 PM)
after 1 year including probation period? anyway, doesn't the HR explain about this during PIPE or is it already mentioned in the Employee Handbook?

anyway a friend of mine is looking for a room starting this December at Petronas Penapisan Melaka, anyone with contacts please PM me.
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6 months probation period, it is explained in the offer letter
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post Nov 14 2012, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Nov 14 2012, 09:26 PM)
6 months probation period, it is explained in the offer letter
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I guess you misunderstood my question, is it 1 year after being confirmed or after 1 year of working.

technical allowance wasn't mentioned in the offer letter hence the reason some people get confused about it.
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post Nov 14 2012, 10:03 PM

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The technical allowance is fixed or will keep on increasing?

What's the difference between the allowance and salary increment?
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post Nov 14 2012, 11:22 PM

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i was once asked hr about salary scheme between non-technical and technical personnel, it is confidential. so i know very little about it.

today, there is no technical allowance, it is absorbed into the salary. So after 1st year, the technical people will get higher increment compare to non-technical.

I also know that there is salary increment based on PPA.
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post Nov 15 2012, 01:07 AM

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Hi All..I'm new here & been following this thread for quite sometime. Decided to create an acc to clear some of my concerns. shakehead.gif

1. What is exec maintenance core job?
2. Which skill group?
3. Is exec maintenance same with mechanical engineer or control engineer?
4. Is exec maintenance do a hands-on job?

Any sifus pls help to answer. I've been verbally offered for this position at 1 of the OPU.

TQ in advance.

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