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post May 19 2017, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(FollowMeRogerThat @ May 19 2017, 10:42 AM)
Asus FTW

Btw, why Z270F and not G or E? for F you'll still need a WiFI dongle if wireless required.

I'm building one too, but can't decide for the lightings of G and E  rclxub.gif
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which store in BJ that you went ?
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post May 19 2017, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ May 19 2017, 04:56 PM)
which store in BJ that you went ?
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almost all....lols...E-Tech don't even have most of the parts in my list and keep on throw me the expensive one...worst part..they don't even have any gtx 1080 in stock...said I don't mind if wait for restock but ask for price...also duno doh.gif
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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 19 2017, 04:58 PM)
almost all....lols...E-Tech don't even have most of the parts in my list and keep on throw me the expensive one...worst part..they don't even have any gtx 1080 in stock...said I don't mind if wait for restock but ask for price...also duno doh.gif
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Lowyat FTW?
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post May 19 2017, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 19 2017, 04:58 PM)
almost all....lols...E-Tech don't even have most of the parts in my list and keep on throw me the expensive one...worst part..they don't even have any gtx 1080 in stock...said I don't mind if wait for restock but ask for price...also duno doh.gif
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I see, then you've to try and go to G-Tech at Seberang Jaya. I think they have more choices sweat.gif
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post May 19 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ May 19 2017, 05:22 PM)
I see, then you've to try and go to G-Tech at Seberang Jaya. I think they have more choices  sweat.gif
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They told me they did not accept credit card anymore...Guess I will have to go to IdealTech from KL then...postage haha
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post May 19 2017, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2017, 04:11 PM)
Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 888
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - RM 419
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 275
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 AMP! Edition+ - RM 1379 (With improved 9Gbps memory)
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 474
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 359
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 4207 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

Not sure about Windows 10 price, you can try to search in Garage Sales for cheap key (beware of counterfeit key though) or get it from retail shop.

You may downgrade to GTX1050Ti 4GB/GTX1060 3GB/RX470 4GB to save cost since your monitor resolution is just 900p.

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Thanks for the quick reply! biggrin.gif

Edit: If i wanted to go down to a mini-itx, which changes should I make?

This post has been edited by Chances_: May 19 2017, 05:49 PM
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post May 19 2017, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 19 2017, 05:27 PM)
They told me they did not accept credit card anymore...Guess I will have to go to IdealTech from KL then...postage haha
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haha, no other choices then sweat.gif, too bad, I bought mine at E-Tech, some of my friends too
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post May 19 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 19 2017, 04:41 PM)
Lols they are going to OC for me during installation since I don't know anything about OC.. my build can ask them to OC to 5.0GHz without any high risk?
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Idealtech right? They know their stuff so 5.0GHz should be okay, they will test for stability and then send you the best configuration (subject to chipset lottery and temperature etc.), the difference between 4.7GHz and 5.0GHz isn't very significant if your workload doesn't require such a fast processor, so don't feel disappointed when they send you a rig with clock speed < 5.0GHz biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Chances_ @ May 19 2017, 05:35 PM)
Thanks for the quick reply!  biggrin.gif

Edit: If i wanted to go down to a mini-itx, which changes should I make?
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Swap the mobo and casing to ITX form factor (GPU too if you choose a very small ITX casing).

Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 888
Gigabyte H270N-WiFi - RM 615
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 275
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 AMP! Edition+ - RM 1379 (With improved 9Gbps memory)
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 474
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 359
Fractal Design Core 500 - RM 269

Total: RM 4478 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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post May 19 2017, 08:52 PM

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Theory-built yet another rig, any sifus can give comments/suggestions? 1080p gaming at at least 60fps for about RM4.5k. Going for amd gpu because freesync, and ryzen because I read good things about it. Other than that, 16GB ram, 240GB+1TB storage and tier 1 psu.

Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI B350M Gaming Pro - 435
MSI RX 580 8gb Gaming X - 1295
G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8gb 2400Mhz - 549 (viewnet)
Sandisk SSD Plus 240gb - 349 (jayacom)
WD 1TB - 210
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550w - 429
Corsair Carbide Spec-02 - 299

Total: 4605 (Compu-zone prices except for ram and ssd)

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post May 19 2017, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(boon213 @ May 19 2017, 08:52 PM)
Theory-built yet another rig, any sifus can give comments/suggestions? 1080p gaming at at least 60fps for about RM4.5k. Going for amd gpu because freesync, and ryzen because I read good things about it. Other than that, 16GB ram, 240GB+1TB storage and tier 1 psu.

Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI B350M Gaming Pro - 435
MSI RX 580 8gb Gaming X - 1295
G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8gb 2400Mhz - 549 (viewnet)
Sandisk SSD Plus 240gb - 349 (jayacom)
WD 1TB - 210
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550w - 429
Corsair Carbide Spec-02 - 299

Total: 4605 (Compu-zone prices except for ram and ssd)
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Looks good. There is a new Spec-04 case that you might want to consider, price is slightly cheaper too, black colour body with red, yellow and slight-grey strip to choose from.
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post May 22 2017, 01:07 AM

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Hello guys. I want to ask about the cheapest sli build for gtx 1070 but i want to use 1 gpu first and add another 1 next year or next 2 years. I dont have any budget because i want to collect money and buy it at the end of this years. Prefer full hd display (1080p), enough for me. Im lazy to build another pc, just want to add another 1 gpu and it is good to go haha.
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QUOTE(gengreengeng @ May 22 2017, 01:07 AM)
Hello guys. I want to ask about the cheapest sli build for gtx 1070 but i want to use 1 gpu first and add another 1 next year or next 2 years. I dont have any budget because i want to collect money and buy it at the end of this years. Prefer full hd display (1080p), enough for me. Im lazy to build another pc, just want to add another 1 gpu and it is good to go haha.
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lol its all down to ur initial budget, 2k? 4k? 6k? without a fix budget its impossible to recommend pc parts.

if u want sli, its easy, just get a sli rdy mobo and u r good to go thumbup.gif

gtx1070 is more than enough for 1080p gaming [for now], sli isnt a bad idea for future upgrade but u say its in 1~2 year, u might have a hard time to get a brand new/2nd hand same model 1070, different model might work but might have compatibility issues. and if u r getting a used gpu, the condition will be questionable.
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post May 22 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(gengreengeng @ May 22 2017, 01:07 AM)
Hello guys. I want to ask about the cheapest sli build for gtx 1070 but i want to use 1 gpu first and add another 1 next year or next 2 years. I dont have any budget because i want to collect money and buy it at the end of this years. Prefer full hd display (1080p), enough for me. Im lazy to build another pc, just want to add another 1 gpu and it is good to go haha.
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Is better upgrade to new GPU instead of buy another unit for SLI.
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post May 22 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ May 22 2017, 04:59 AM)
lol its all down to ur initial budget, 2k? 4k? 6k? without a fix budget its impossible to recommend pc parts.

if u want sli, its easy, just get a sli rdy mobo and u r good to go  thumbup.gif

gtx1070 is more than enough for 1080p gaming [for now], sli isnt a bad idea for future upgrade but u say its in 1~2 year, u might have a hard time to get a brand new/2nd hand same model 1070, different model might work but might have compatibility issues. and if u r getting a used gpu, the condition will be questionable.
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2k enough for sli build? Haha. Ok lets say, 4k. Just want to know what i need to prepare if i want to add another gpu. Such as cpu or power supply that will support the sli. Maybe im getting used one if new not available hehe

QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ May 22 2017, 08:51 AM)
Is better upgrade to new GPU instead of buy another unit for SLI.
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U are right, but I just want to try sli pc. Maybe if i add 1 more gpu it will perform better that next gen gpu haha

To save more money, ill consider to use rx 580 haha

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post May 22 2017, 11:23 AM

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guys, what is the lowest possible build for a rig than can support game like LOL,Dota2, and preferably Overwatch?
Feel like DIY build one for my bro.
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post May 22 2017, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(gengreengeng @ May 22 2017, 09:13 AM)
2k enough for sli build? Haha. Ok lets say, 4k. Just want to know what i need to prepare if i want to add another gpu. Such as cpu or power supply that will support the sli. Maybe im getting used one if new not available hehe
U are right, but I just want to try sli pc. Maybe if i add 1 more gpu it will perform better that next gen gpu haha

To save more money, ill consider to use rx 580 haha
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The price of one GTX1070 is already 2k, after adding the processor that doesn't bottleneck it, a SLI-ready mobo, RAM, HDD/SSD, SLI-ready PSU, casing, it could easily go up to 5k+.

Planning to buy at the end of the year? Then your choice might not be the GTX1070 anymore if Nvidia releases their Volta based GTX card by end of this year (or perhaps you might switch to red team for the Vega card too).

And nope, don't ever plan to do SLI and hope it will perform better than a faster single card, SLI support from developers is going downhill in these recent years, either they totally abandon it or just have poor scaling, making the second card heavy underutilized in the long run. In conclusion, stick with the strongest & most powerful single card instead of SLI-ing the weaker cards, you will benefit more from doing so and potentially save more cost as well since you don't have to fork out more for a SLI-ready mobo and PSU initially.

QUOTE(starz92 @ May 22 2017, 11:23 AM)
guys, what is the lowest possible build for a rig than can support game like LOL,Dota2, and preferably Overwatch?
Feel like DIY build one for my bro.
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1.5k might do the trick, but the settings that you can run in those games aren't always the highest and frame rates might not as stable as mid and high end rig.
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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 22 2017, 11:23 AM)
guys, what is the lowest possible build for a rig than can support game like LOL,Dota2, and preferably Overwatch?
Feel like DIY build one for my bro.
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This is currently the best budget gaming rig without breaking the bank.

Pentium G4560 - 249
Asrock H110M-DG3/D3 - 219
Apacer 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - 239
Leadtek GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 699
WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 219
Corsair VS 450W - 189
Tecware F3 case - 124 (estimated, can be found at C-Zone)

RM1938 total (Viewnet prices)

Don't get your hopes too high when the game demands more CPU power.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 22 2017, 12:37 PM)
This is currently the best budget gaming rig without breaking the bank.

Pentium G4560 - 249
Asrock H110M-DG3/D3 - 219
Apacer 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - 239
Leadtek GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 699
WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 219
Corsair VS 450W - 189
Tecware F3 case - 124 (estimated, can be found at C-Zone)

RM1938 total (Viewnet prices)

Don't get your hopes too high when the game demands more CPU power.
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can play overwatch right @ 27inch 1080 monitor?

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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 22 2017, 01:46 PM)
can play overwatch right @ 27inch 1080 monitor?
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Yes.

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http://www.techspot.com/review/1269-nvidia...1050/page5.html

Kindly take note increasing bots will increase CPU load.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 22 2017, 12:17 PM)
The price of one GTX1070 is already 2k, after adding the processor that doesn't bottleneck it, a SLI-ready mobo, RAM, HDD/SSD, SLI-ready PSU, casing, it could easily go up to 5k+.

Planning to buy at the end of the year? Then your choice might not be the GTX1070 anymore if Nvidia releases their Volta based GTX card by end of this year (or perhaps you might switch to red team for the Vega card too).

And nope, don't ever plan to do SLI and hope it will perform better than a faster single card, SLI support from developers is going downhill in these recent years, either they totally abandon it or just have poor scaling, making the second card heavy underutilized in the long run. In conclusion, stick with the strongest & most powerful single card instead of SLI-ing the weaker cards, you will benefit more from doing so and potentially save more cost as well since you don't have to fork out more for a SLI-ready mobo and PSU initially.
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I see.. So i move to my other build. I planning to build Mitx pc. I just want to compare what can i get around 4k with acer vx 15 / dell 15 7567


[B][Budget] 4k (pc+display+mechanical keyboard+gaming mouse)

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] n.a.

[Monitor resolution] 1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota/lol/overwatch /heroes of the storm, new game. autocad.

[Personal preferences] above 20 inch display

[Location] kl, selangor

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