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terence_nwb
post May 26 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ May 26 2017, 01:17 PM)
Hi, thanks for reply, most of the time just doing excel, programming, etc.
For game i play csgo and final fantasy xiv those mmo only, not battlefield those, so i assume 3k is possible to achieve this?
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You can ditch the GPU if you want SSD (provided you are okay with low settings in games, will rely on HD630 for gaming).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 771
Asus H110I-PLUS - RM 356
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 285
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 545
WD Black 1TB HDD (2.5" 7,200 RPM) - RM 309
Fractal Design Node 202 (with PSU) - RM 669

Total: RM 2935 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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post May 26 2017, 03:20 PM

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Hi sifu,

May I know is a single gtx 1070 able to run 2k resolution at max setting at least 60-80fps... looking to get a 2k monitor
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post May 26 2017, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(seanwms @ May 26 2017, 03:20 PM)
Hi sifu,

May I know is a single gtx 1070 able to run 2k resolution at max setting at least 60-80fps... looking to get a 2k monitor
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This site tests a lot of games...

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidi...0-review,1.html

Kindly take note i5 or Ryzen bottlenecks GTX 1070 on certain games. Also, Anti-aliasing settings may reduce the performance.
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post May 26 2017, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(seanwms @ May 26 2017, 03:20 PM)
Hi sifu,

May I know is a single gtx 1070 able to run 2k resolution at max setting at least 60-80fps... looking to get a 2k monitor
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It depends on what games you run and the processor you pair with it.

For example, an i5 bottlenecks GTX1070 in Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Wildlands heavily, you will notice massive FPS drop in city area. But similar configuration will just run fine in Overwatch because the games itself is not very heavy in terms of hardware requirements.

TL:DR, don't expect everything to run at steady 60 - 80 FPS in 1440p, i7 (or high end Ryzen) is recommended to power up the GTX1070 to eliminate CPU bottleneck as much as possible.
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post May 26 2017, 07:17 PM

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Hi wanna ask,is it good deal if i get i7 6700k with z170 mobo + gtx 1070 around rm5.3k price.. it's a second hand actually😅
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post May 26 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(aizatbadrul @ May 26 2017, 07:17 PM)
Hi wanna ask,is it good deal if i get i7 6700k with z170 mobo + gtx 1070 around rm5.3k price.. it's a second hand actually😅
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Need to know the full specs, CPU + mobo + GPU cannot determine the price.
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post May 26 2017, 10:35 PM

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Would i5 6600K bottleneck with 1060? Or vice versa.

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post May 27 2017, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 26 2017, 02:56 PM)
You can ditch the GPU if you want SSD (provided you are okay with low settings in games, will rely on HD630 for gaming).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 771
Asus H110I-PLUS - RM 356
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 285
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 545
WD Black 1TB HDD (2.5" 7,200 RPM) - RM 309
Fractal Design Node 202 (with PSU) - RM 669

Total: RM 2935 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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Thanks bro! Possible to just use SSD instead of HDD with node 202 chasis?
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post May 27 2017, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ May 27 2017, 12:51 AM)
Thanks bro! Possible to just use SSD instead of HDD with node 202 chasis?
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Yes but you will have limited storage. Prepare to add another disk.
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post May 27 2017, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 26 2017, 08:54 PM)
Need to know the full specs, CPU + mobo + GPU cannot determine the price.
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Hahaha,sorry about that😄

I7 6700k
Cyorig h7
Asus z170 pro gaming
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze
Samsung 750 120gb ssd
WD Blue 1TB
Corsair Spec Alpha
Windows 10

=Rm5.3k

This post has been edited by aizatbadrul: May 27 2017, 03:33 AM
terence_nwb
post May 27 2017, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(MatchaRed @ May 26 2017, 10:35 PM)
Would i5 6600K bottleneck with 1060? Or vice versa.
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Depends on the games you play, overclock the CPU if CPU is bottlenecking the card.

QUOTE(aizatbadrul @ May 27 2017, 03:31 AM)
Hahaha,sorry about that😄

I7 6700k
Cyorig h7
Asus z170 pro gaming
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze
Samsung 750 120gb ssd
WD Blue 1TB
Corsair Spec Alpha
Windows 10

=Rm5.3k
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Too high for me, if it is around 4.7k I'll consider it.
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post May 27 2017, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 27 2017, 11:00 AM)
Depends on the games you play, overclock the CPU if CPU is bottlenecking the card.
Too high for me, if it is around 4.7k I'll consider it.
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Well,the actual price when the pc is build reach around rm6.6k actually..hmm😶
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post May 27 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Egorist @ May 27 2017, 06:32 PM)
Curious bout wireless display.
How to display bios?
How high is the input lag?
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It is not really meant to take over the role of traditional monitor (and its connection), it uses WiFi Direct and traffic doesn't route through your router so latency is significantly lower, but then it is still prone to interference, signal disruption etc, cable is still the way to go.

QUOTE(aizatbadrul @ May 27 2017, 07:39 PM)
Well,the actual price when the pc is build reach around rm6.6k actually..hmm😶
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I7 6700k - New i7 7700K is around 1.5k
Cyorig h7 - New unit is around 200
Asus z170 pro gaming - Leftover stock is around 750 (replaced by Z270)
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2 - New unit is around 600
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming - New unit is around 2k
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze - New unit is around 350 but sadly this PSU is an overpriced crap
Samsung 750 120gb ssd - New unit is around 250
WD Blue 1TB - New unit is around 220
Corsair Spec Alpha - New unit is around 350
Windows 10 - OEM? Retail? OEM is cheap, you can buy from lelong, GS, 11street, lazada for just 50 (example)

Total: around RM 6300

Now lets talk about second hand market price.

I7 6700k - around 1.1k -1.2k
Cyorig h7 - around 100 - 130
Asus z170 pro gaming - around 500 - 550
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2 - around 450
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming - around 1.6k
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze - similar grade PSU is around 150 - 200
Samsung 750 120gb ssd - around 150 - 200
WD Blue 1TB - around 150
Corsair Spec Alpha - around 250
Windows 10 - around 50

Total: around RM 4750
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QUOTE(Egorist @ May 27 2017, 09:47 PM)
So, hdmi or vga for a 24" FHD monitor?
P/s: was considering 32" HD tv since gtx 1050ti is king of 720p but I figured the tv's input lag will be noticeable especially w/ wireless controller&K/B.
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As I said earlier, cable FTW for total stability, TV's input lag is significantly higher than PC monitor, even on cable connection, so just forget about it if low input lag is important for you.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 27 2017, 08:50 PM)
It is not really meant to take over the role of traditional monitor (and its connection), it uses WiFi Direct and traffic doesn't route through your router so latency is significantly lower, but then it is still prone to interference, signal disruption etc, cable is still the way to go.
I7 6700k - New i7 7700K is around 1.5k
Cyorig h7 - New unit is around 200
Asus z170 pro gaming - Leftover stock is around 750 (replaced by Z270)
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2 - New unit is around 600
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming - New unit is around 2k
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze - New unit is around 350 but sadly this PSU is an overpriced crap
Samsung 750 120gb ssd - New unit is around 250
WD Blue 1TB - New unit is around 220
Corsair Spec Alpha - New unit is around 350
Windows 10 - OEM? Retail? OEM is cheap, you can buy from lelong, GS, 11street, lazada for just 50 (example)

Total: around RM 6300

Now lets talk about second hand market price.

I7 6700k - around 1.1k -1.2k
Cyorig h7 - around 100 - 130
Asus z170 pro gaming - around 500 - 550
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2 - around 450
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming - around 1.6k
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze - similar grade PSU is around 150 - 200
Samsung 750 120gb ssd - around 150 - 200
WD Blue 1TB - around 150
Corsair Spec Alpha - around 250
Windows 10 - around 50

Total: around RM 4750
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Where to search 2nd hand part good?
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post May 27 2017, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 27 2017, 08:50 PM)
It is not really meant to take over the role of traditional monitor (and its connection), it uses WiFi Direct and traffic doesn't route through your router so latency is significantly lower, but then it is still prone to interference, signal disruption etc, cable is still the way to go.
I7 6700k - New i7 7700K is around 1.5k
Cyorig h7 - New unit is around 200
Asus z170 pro gaming - Leftover stock is around 750 (replaced by Z270)
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2 - New unit is around 600
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming - New unit is around 2k
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze - New unit is around 350 but sadly this PSU is an overpriced crap
Samsung 750 120gb ssd - New unit is around 250
WD Blue 1TB - New unit is around 220
Corsair Spec Alpha - New unit is around 350
Windows 10 - OEM? Retail? OEM is cheap, you can buy from lelong, GS, 11street, lazada for just 50 (example)

Total: around RM 6300

Now lets talk about second hand market price.

I7 6700k - around 1.1k -1.2k
Cyorig h7 - around 100 - 130
Asus z170 pro gaming - around 500 - 550
G.skill ripjaws V ddr4 2400mhz 8GBX2 - around 450
Gigabyte gtx 1070 g1 gaming - around 1.6k
Xigmates shogun 600w 80+ bronze - similar grade PSU is around 150 - 200
Samsung 750 120gb ssd - around 150 - 200
WD Blue 1TB - around 150
Corsair Spec Alpha - around 250
Windows 10 - around 50

Total: around RM 4750
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Dangg,hahaha okay never thought that PC price fluctuate that much..Thanks btw for the sharing & reply😄👍
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Hey guys, im looking to upgrade my motherboard and graphic card, maybe processor if necessary. Can pls recommend. Thx alot

Current spec

I7-4770k
Asus z87 sabertooth
Zotac 780ti
Samsung ssd evo
Wd hdd
Corsair vengeance 2x8gb
Corsair ax860i

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post May 28 2017, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(petang makan maggi @ May 28 2017, 10:28 AM)
Your processor and mobo still pretty solid in today standard. Since it is unlocked, you can get a better cooler and overclock it for some extra performance to stay relevant for another few years.

As for GPU, I will say don't settle for anything lower than GTX1070, AMD's equivalent is VEGA and yet being launched. Of course if you have the money, GTX1080TI is a solid choice too, though volta (next gen) may be round the corner which make buying high end card now a bad decision.
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Would 1080ti bottleneck anything in that PC?
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Now pc suddenly cant use, i suspect either mobo or GC died. Tmr i will go pc shops to check.

If i am to upgrade GC, i think im going with asus gtx1070 or zotac 1070. If the problem is mobo, any suggestions on what to get guys? Will it bottleneck? Thx guys
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post May 28 2017, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(tongaz86 @ May 27 2017, 10:30 PM)
Where to search 2nd hand part good?
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No specific place, just need to have a pair of sharp eyes for that cool2.gif

QUOTE(GroundMan @ May 28 2017, 07:53 PM)
Now pc suddenly cant use, i suspect either mobo or GC died. Tmr i will go pc shops to check.

If i am to upgrade GC, i think im going with asus gtx1070 or zotac 1070. If the problem is mobo, any suggestions on what to get guys? Will it bottleneck? Thx guys
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Mobo will not bottleneck the GPU, if you get a non-Z87/Z97 then you just cannot overclock your 4770K, that's it, if you don't overclock at all then this wouldn't be an issue for you.

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