[OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V13!
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 Apr 25 2017, 02:36 PM
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Hi,
I am just on the planning stage for my desktop setup from scratch. (require an estimate budget) Mainly will use for gaming, web browsing, and little bit of video editing/ photoshop. As for gaming, I will mainly use it on online game and some AAA title with max setting. Monitor wise, the monitor I am looking for 4k g-synch hdr monitor which I don't think available in market as of now. Would appreciate a rough setup for my future desktop. |
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Apr 26 2017, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 26 2017, 08:54 AM) This could cost a lot. TQ bro i7 or Ryzen 7 - around 1.5k+ A decent mobo - around 600+/- 16GB DDR4 RAM - around 600+/- GTX1080Ti 11GB G5X - around 4000+/- 240GB SATA SSD - around 500+/- 1TB SATA HDD - around 225+/- A decent 500W - 600W PSU - around 500+/- Casing of your own choice - around 500+/- Monitor - estimate to be around 5000 Misc (keyboard, mouse, speaker, cooler, casing fan, LED strip etc.) - around 500+/- Total up will be around 14k    at least I have some target now |
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May 2 2017, 09:55 AM
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Guys, how about gtx 1070 card built with i5 (kaby lake series) along with a 27-32 inch monitor preferably with G-Sync and ultra wide if possible . Budget including monitor around RM7k. Is it doable? Usage : abit of photoshop plus online gaming at ultra high setting with 1080 / 1440 resolution.
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May 2 2017, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 2 2017, 11:02 AM) Don't go with i5 if you are going to build a rig based on GTX1070, the i5 bottlenecks the GTX1070 in some CPU demanding titles. alright then how about i7 with GTX1070 with IPS G-Synch monitor? (G-synch won't necessary important for me as I wont be going for competitive gaming) mostly for leisure.Ultrawide GSync enabled monitor costs around 4k+, GTX1070 costs ~2k, so it is not possible at the moment with the amount of budget you have. If you can settle with 1080p TN GSync monitor then it is possible though. Is the amd build a cheaper option with the same performance and reliability?? This post has been edited by starz92: May 2 2017, 02:18 PM |
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May 2 2017, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 2 2017, 02:58 PM) No AMD GPU that can match the performance of GTX1070 yet and GTX1070 is somehow slower when pairing with Ryzen CPU at the moment so Intel + Nvidia build is still more preferred currently. Hmm this spec together with Dell U2715H monitor will be just nice right?There isn't any 1080p IPS GSync monitor in Malaysia yet, the cheapest 1440p IPS GSync is ViewSonic XG2703-GS which costs 3.3k now. Rig only: Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1397 Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515 G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 570 Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2099 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 474 WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219 EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459 Tecware Alpha - RM 229 Total: RM 5962 (ETECH price inclusive of GST) Checked the dimension, seems okay, better bring the board to the shop to confirm. |
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May 4 2017, 09:10 AM
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Dear sifus,
My preferred build would be as follow : Please help to check if there's any bottleneck or should I up my graphic card to 1080? i7 7700K Gigabyte Z270-HD3 Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB WD Blue 1TB EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 Tecware Alpha Monitor: Dell U2717D or Dell S2716DG (will the 60Hz-IPS vs 144Hz + Gsync-TN affect gaming and color by much?) This post has been edited by starz92: May 4 2017, 10:51 AM |
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May 4 2017, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 4 2017, 12:29 PM) You need an aftermarket CPU cooler for that 7700K as it doesn't come with Intel stock cooler. around how much for the aftermarket cooler? Do you think I need the 7700k and Z270 mobo for the Dell monitor U2715H and 1070 graphic card?As for the monitor, if you never try 144Hz before or not going to play fast pace & competitive games then 60Hz will do just fine, I always prefer color > refresh rate as I am not a FPS gamer You can't go wrong with good quality PSU, it can last for many years and you can re-use it when you upgrade your system in the future. If you don't mind the extra cost then it shouldn't be an issue  |
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May 4 2017, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 4 2017, 02:43 PM) If you are going for mild CPU overclocking (~ +0.3GHz offset), then you might be able to get away with RM 200 - RM 300 cooler (air or liquid AIO). For heavy CPU overclocking, you are advised to get a high end CPU cooler, they are not cheap (mostly > RM 500). How about clockspeed? I7-7700 have 3.60Ghz while 7700k have 4.20Ghz...will this impact anything if no OCCPU overclocking doesn't bring significant performance boost in gaming, at least not until your CPU starts to slow down in the next few years (probably will take > 5 years), stick with 7700 and normal B250/H270 if you want to save money or not going to overclock the CPU as it comes with Intel stock cooler. |
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May 6 2017, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 5 2017, 12:49 PM) Going 1440p with 144hz and 27" IPS panel already asking for not best bang for the buck. AMD not recommended for GTX 1070 or higher. It bottlenecks. RAM speed doesn't improve performance as much as CPU and GPU. So yeah, asking too much for this budget. my future build will be something like this but change the monitor to Dell U2715H (aim for 60Hz 1440p gaming at ultra setting only).Core i7-7700K - 1579 Noctua NH-D14 - 375 Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899 Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 260 MSI GTX 1080 8GB DDR5X Armor - 2650 Samsung 960 Evo 250GB - 721 WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 212 Super Flower Leadex Gold 750W - 549 Corsair Spec case - 299 Acer XB271HU 27" monitor - 3499 (from Viewnet) RM11043 total (C-Zone prices) May I know what is the difference between Samsung 960 and Samsung 850 for SSD? price almost double for the same size.. and a single 8gb ram enough for this build? Also the Mobo, will Gigabyte Z270-HD3 enough? |
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May 10 2017, 04:47 PM
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Fellow sifus,
Probably getting my rig mid of next month, made some amendment and my build will be as follow : Intel Core i7 7700K - Gigabyte Z270-HD3 - Corsair Liquid Cooler H60 G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - GTX 1080 card. (not sure which brand to get yet) - Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - WD Blue 1TB HDD - EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - Tecware Alpha - Monitor: Dell U2715H Budget : <RM10k Is there any way to further bring down the cost/improve? Usage mostly on gaming at 1440p ultra setting@60FPS and some beginner photoshop. Would appreciate on suggestion of GTX1080 brand.. TQ This post has been edited by starz92: May 10 2017, 04:51 PM |
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May 16 2017, 02:01 PM
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guys for Gigabyte Z270 mobo, is it advisable to get the one with wifi adapter built in? or should I just get a wifi adapter instead?
btw, does wifi built in = have bluetooth built in as well? |
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May 16 2017, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 16 2017, 02:17 PM) So far only high end ATX Z270 and mITX Z270 come with WiFi card and yes, they do come with Bluetooth connectivity (mostly 4.2 and above) and dual band WiFi support. means I would need 1 usb slot for wifi adapter and 1 usb slot for bluetooth adapter...plus 2 usb port for mouse and keyboard respectively ...I see the techware alpha casing only have 4 usb slot Just get a cheap 2.4GHz TP-LINK WiFi adapter if you are using normal 2.4GHz router and would like to save money.  means I don't have any extra slot d??? |
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May 17 2017, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 16 2017, 02:35 PM) That's front panel USB port, don't forget you still have rear USB port from your mobo, if your mobo comes with 4 rear USB ports then you will have 8 USB ports in total. Haha that solved my problem then..tq.. Btw any of you guys got recommendation for good pc builder in Penang that accept credit card??Looking more towards after sales support such as RMA, dust cleaning etc |
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May 17 2017, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ May 17 2017, 07:24 AM) E-Tech, Bukit Jambul Will check out E-Tech... G-Tech just told me they terminating their credit card payment option ady G-Tech, Butterworth  |
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May 17 2017, 06:46 PM
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guys, any good replacement for EVGA supernova 550w G2 for my build ? Can't seems to find stock for this PSU.
Recap of my build : I7-7700k Z270-HD3 2x 8gb ddr4 2400 ram GTX 1080 Samsung Evo 850 SSD/EVO 750- 500 GB WD 1TB HDD ID Cooling 240 This post has been edited by starz92: May 17 2017, 06:47 PM |
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May 19 2017, 09:27 AM
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Sifus,
Penang local shop all really CMI..just went to BJ and the stock they have are so limited.. Didn't even bother to check the price for me just tell me they no stock... Planning to get from Idealtech instead but still contemplating as I am from other state. Anyway, here is one of the build from them...can help to evaluate? 1. i7-7700k ASUS ROG STRIX Z270F GAMING Deepcool CAPTAIN 240 EX (RED) Liquid Cooling (240L Radiator) GSKILL RipjawsV RED 2x4GB DDR4 2800mhz EVGA GTX1080 8GB DDR5X 256BIT FTW2 Gaming ICX FSP HYDRO 600W (80+ Bronze/NON MODULAR)* Sharkoon S25-W(Full Transparent Window/2x 12CM at front/1x12cm LED Rear/2xUSB3.0/Support Water Cooling) SAMSUNG 850 EVO 500GB V-NAND (540/520) WD 1TB Caviar Blue ASUS Internal 24X DVDRW DAMAGE : RM8024 Is there any major difference between Asus Strix mobo with the Gigabyte HD3 model? I can save a few bucks there and top up to a gold tier and full modular PSU. Also, any comment on EVGA GPU?? or should i go for Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme at the same price ? Thanks in advance. This post has been edited by starz92: May 19 2017, 10:22 AM |
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May 19 2017, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(FollowMeRogerThat @ May 19 2017, 10:42 AM) Asus FTW I DO need wireless and bluetooth.... plan to get the Rm200 offer ASUS PCE-AC55BT which give me wifi and bluetooth access..Btw, why Z270F and not G or E? for F you'll still need a WiFI dongle if wireless required. I'm building one too, but can't decide for the lightings of G and E  I do not know this previously but seems that I can get built in mobo one with G or E as well..Price diff should be roughly the same. in fact cheaper Z270F + ASUS PCE-AC55BT = 933+200 =RM1133 Z270G = RM1046  *E more expensive le.. |
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May 19 2017, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(FollowMeRogerThat @ May 19 2017, 01:35 PM) G and E has Wifi built in that's why they are my current choices. Not too keen on dongle. Pricing aside I still feel G logo color more solid compared to E haha..personal preference.do you care about the RGB location? the E is a lightning bar at top and G at bottom which is ROG logo. Tell me which one you prefer heh, not considering the price. what build are you building haha. |
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May 19 2017, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2017, 04:11 PM) That Strix comes with many fancy features like RGB, Aura Sync, themed PCB board etc, if you don't really need them (or use them), I don't see any reason to choose it over other cheaper Z270 boards. the shop guy told me asus z270 strix one can OC up to 4.7ghz and more phase power As for the GPU, I would go for EVGA most likely, premium brand with nice build quality, check review and the board design online to learn more, different people have different opinions and since you are going to build a high end rig, you might have some ideas on the color & theme of the rig, pick the one which suits you the most  You can take a look at Asus Strix GTX1080 too if you pick the Asus Strix mobo because you can use Aura Sync with this combo. |
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May 19 2017, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 19 2017, 04:36 PM) Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 774 Lols they are going to OC for me during installation since I don't know anything about OC.. my build can ask them to OC to 5.0GHz without any high risk?Asus H110M-K - RM 271 Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 275 Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729 Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219 FSP Hyper K 500W - RM 189 Tecware F3 - RM 119 ViewSonic VA2259-SH IPS - RM 459 Total: RM 3035 (Techview PJ price inclusive of GST) HD610 is slightly slower than GT730, the extra bump of GT710 from HD610 is not worth the moeny, go for GT1030 instead. 4.7GHz is peanut only, 5.0GHz is the min target for that high end mobo with 10 VRM |
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