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post Jun 9 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 9 2019, 06:38 PM)
Anyone try the Beelink GT-King.

How is it in term of performance, sound support, auto switch frame rate and resolution is it working? Can this play remux copy of 4K HDR source smoothly? If cannot then I will forget about it.

No need Netflix as I still have my Apple TV 4K.

Just feel like take one play play.
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post Jun 9 2019, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 9 2019, 08:37 PM)
Search the thread..
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I just found your review but haven't read yet.

I forgot add on the most important question.

Is this box or any box can passthru Dolby Atmos, except using Kodi. [Edit: No need answer as I already get the answer]

Edit: I just read and include comment from AVANS in your review, no lossless track support, probably can't auto switch frame rate also, this both is big deal and make this device not good for me

It is not worth for me to buy already. Haha.


Thanks for your review on this model https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4785738

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Jun 9 2019, 09:42 PM
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post Jun 9 2019, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(futra @ Jun 2 2019, 12:10 AM)
I think they've updated to v2 (v2.192.2 as shown in Settings), no wonder the v1.1 won't work. Check pm  smile.gif
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Today I tried the beta AstroGo. It works, but still quite disappointed. The user interface is somewhat like HBO Go Malaysia. It is able to scroll using IR remote ( which is one step better than previous interface ), but still not completely friendly to TV/IR remote. Have keep toggle between mouse mode and key mode.

It is still quite far from being TV friendly.
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post Jun 9 2019, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 9 2019, 09:34 PM)
Today I tried the beta AstroGo. It works, but still quite disappointed. The user interface is somewhat like HBO Go Malaysia. It is able to scroll using IR remote ( which is one step better than previous interface ), but still not completely friendly to TV/IR remote. Have keep toggle between mouse mode and key mode.

It is still quite far from being TV friendly.
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Isn't Astro Go also works that way?
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post Jun 9 2019, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 9 2019, 09:48 PM)
Isn't Astro Go also works that way?
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Similar but not exactly.

This new interface is able to scroll the screen using IR in keyboard mode. ( Down, down, down will scroll the screen. ).

Whereas the old one cannot scroll screen at all without using air mouse.

I think Astro is not interested to make the app TV friendly.
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post Jun 9 2019, 10:09 PM

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Actually I am finding a better box than Apple TV 4K but I can't find.

Apple TV 4K is a nearly perfect box to me except following two issue.
  • YouTube stuck at 1080p only
  • No Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD
The box I need need to be better than Apple TV 4K and meet following requirement
  • Auto frame rate switch (extreme important)
  • Full RGB support (important)
  • Lossless Track support (very important)
  • Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD (very important)
  • Plex plugin support apps which can run as great as Infuse Pro (only support Apple tvOS), the reason I prefer user own customize poster and do it at PC. I don't use Plex because Plex transcode when subtitle is not SRT format. (important)
  • Netflix 4K HDR (I exclude Dolby Atmos as I know only Apple TV 4K and Xbox support it) (important)
  • YouTube 4K HDR (I not sure any box support up to 4K HDR or not, my Panasonic TV do support it, if not, at least give me 4K SDR support) (important)
I want all in one box and not switching to TV apps even the TV apps support it.

The closer I can find is Nvidia Shield but I not sure on certain like auto frame rate switch, and also lossless track support behaviour, my soundbar not support DTS-HD MA, is apps in Android TV can set decode and send over to my soundbar as Multi PCM? But for Dolby wise direct passthru up to Dolby Atmos. If this cannot do, I don't see the point for me buy Nvidia Shield, because the TV Box must greater than my current Apple TV 4K.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 9 2019, 09:59 PM)
Similar but not exactly.

This new interface is able to scroll the screen using IR in keyboard mode. ( Down, down, down will scroll the screen. ).

Whereas the old one cannot scroll screen at all without using air mouse.

I think Astro is not interested to make the app TV friendly.
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I see. The current Astro Go app works OK for me. Yeah, they are not interested to make the app TV friendly else will kill the decoder business indirectly. tongue.gif
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post Jun 9 2019, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 9 2019, 09:24 PM)
I just found your review but haven't read yet.

I forgot add on the most important question.

Is this box or any box can passthru Dolby Atmos, except using Kodi. [Edit: No need answer as I already get the answer]

Edit: I just read and include comment from AVANS in your review, no lossless track support, probably can't auto switch frame rate also, this both is big deal and make this device not good for me

It is not worth for me to buy already. Haha.
Thanks for your review on this model https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4785738
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Good you read it.. I purposely chose to remain quiet till it all hits you. See that's the difference between manufacturers like Minix and Beelink.. IMO, it appears Beelink rushed to place this in the market and prolly figured they'll fix things as time goes on. Hence releasing the sdk into the wild, etc.. Eventually, the goal is a more stable firmware where it all works. The hardware and Android OS is definitely more than capable. Minix on the other hand, would rather hold off a release till the get the most basic things working.. Then push out with a stable firmware.. Then subsequent updates to squash bugs and intro features..

QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 9 2019, 09:59 PM)
Similar but not exactly.

This new interface is able to scroll the screen using IR in keyboard mode. ( Down, down, down will scroll the screen. ).

Whereas the old one cannot scroll screen at all without using air mouse.

I think Astro is not interested to make the app TV friendly.
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Nope, business-wise.. Why would they... It's still being designed purely for touchscreen devices. My guess is that even if they are interested in such tv boxes. Better to target ATV OS instead first.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 9 2019, 10:09 PM)
Actually I am finding a better box than Apple TV 4K but I can't find.

Apple TV 4K is a nearly perfect box to me except following two issue.




  • YouTube stuck at 1080p only



  • No Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD



The box I need need to be better than Apple TV 4K and  meet following requirement




  • Auto frame rate switch (extreme important)



  • Full RGB support (important)



  • Lossless Track support (very important)



  • Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD (very important)



  • Plex plugin support apps which can run as great as Infuse Pro (only support Apple tvOS), the reason I prefer user own customize poster and do it at PC. I don't use Plex because Plex transcode when subtitle is not SRT format. (important)



  • Netflix 4K HDR (I exclude Dolby Atmos as I know only Apple TV 4K and Xbox support it) (important)



  • YouTube 4K HDR (I not sure any box support up to 4K HDR or not, my Panasonic TV do support it, if not, at least give me 4K SDR support) (important)



I want all in one box and not switching to TV apps even the TV apps support it.

The closer I can find is Nvidia Shield but I not sure on certain like auto frame rate switch, and also lossless track support behaviour, my soundbar not support DTS-HD MA, is apps in Android TV can set decode and send over to my soundbar as Multi PCM? But for Dolby wise direct passthru up to Dolby Atmos. If this cannot do, I don't see the point for me buy Nvidia Shield, because the TV Box must greater than my current Apple TV 4K.
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The Nvidia Shield does it all.. Quit hesitating and pull the trigger. Also it's weird that your soundbar doesn't support DTS HD-MA but supports ATMOS.. Anyways, as told before.. Literally all soundbars are pseudo-surround.. So even if you are playing ATMOS or TrueHD.. It's never the real thing.. So TBH, harping on these surround sound formats being a must isn't really. Get a proper AVR with 7.1 speakers or more setup.. For ATMOS, definitely requires overhead speakers.. Then, yes...can talk. Else, you use as is with the Nvidia Shield. ATMOS decodable/passthrough-able won't matter.

Lastly.. You keep typing "Dolby ATMOS in Dolby TrueHD... What's that? Dolby Atmos and Dolby TrueHD are two separate soundtrack formats.

QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 9 2019, 10:29 PM)
I see. The current Astro Go app works OK for me. Yeah, they are not interested to make the app TV friendly else will kill the decoder business indirectly. tongue.gif
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Yup.

This post has been edited by voncrane: Jun 9 2019, 11:25 PM
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post Jun 9 2019, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 9 2019, 11:18 PM)
Good you read it.. I purposely chose to remain quiet till it all hits you. See that's the difference between manufacturers like Minix and Beelink.. IMO, it appears Beelink rushed to place this in the market and prolly figured they'll fix things as time goes on. Hence releasing the sdk into the wild, etc.. Eventually, the goal is a more stable firmware where it all works. The hardware and Android OS is definitely more than capable. Minix on the other hand, would rather hold off a release till the get the most basic things working.. Then push out with a stable firmware.. Then subsequent updates to squash bugs and intro features..
Nope, business-wise.. Why would they... It's still being designed purely for touchscreen devices. My guess is that even if they are interested in such tv boxes. Better to target ATV OS instead first.
The Nvidia Shield does it all.. Quit hesitating and pull the trigger. Also it's weird that your soundbar doesn't support DTS HD-MA but supports ATMOS.. Anyways, as told before.. Literally all soundbars are pseudo-surround.. So even if you are playing ATMOS or TrueHD.. It's never the real thing.. So TBH, harping on these surround sound formats being a must isn't really. Get a proper AVR with 7.1 speakers or more setup.. Then, yes...can talk. Else, you use as is with the Nvidia Shield.

Lastly.. You keep typing "Dolby ATMOS in Dolby TrueHD... What's that? Dolby Atmos and Dolby TrueHD are two separate soundtrack formats. Unless you are referring to data merged in such a way to maintain backward compatibility?
Yup.
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Actually I heard the differences where more immersive feel when I compare with same title in 4K UHD blu-ray in Dolby Atmos and also Remux copy in Dolby TrueHD even in current pseudo-surround, thus I want Dolby Atmos, the metadata is playing on it. SoundBar is enough for me. Some SoundBar now is good and came with actual rear speaker. I know cannot compare with AVR but it ain't bad smile.gif No place for me to put AVR and it is not something I prefer.

My current SoundBar is 5.1.2 and probably I will upgrade to 7.1.2 coming month to true surround with actual rear speaker instead of current pseudo-surround.

Ya, my SoundBar support everything from Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Atmos, but DTS only support the lossy DTS Digital.

Good to know Nvidia Shield does it all. I hope it is not only does in Kodi as I don't like Kodi. Haha! smile.gif

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Jun 9 2019, 11:57 PM
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Hello
Can anyone recommend me any good android box with price range rm250 and below. Im new to this box exosystem. No 4k also fine. For my parents, they like to watch netflix, national geographic, discovery, islamic ch like astro oasis and probably some other movies that are not available in netflix malaysia.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 9 2019, 11:29 PM)
Actually I heard the differences where more immersive feel when I compare with same title in 4K UHD blu-ray in Dolby Atmos and also Remux copy in Dolby TrueHD even in current pseudo-surround, thus I want Dolby Atmos, the metadata is playing on it. SoundBar is enough for me. Some SoundBar now is good and came with actual rear speaker. I know cannot compare with AVR but it ain't bad smile.gif No place for me to put AVR and it is not something I prefer.

My current SoundBar is 5.1.2 and probably I will upgrade to 7.1.2 coming month to true surround with actual rear speaker instead of current pseudo-surround.

Ya, my SoundBar support everything from Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Atmos, but DTS only support the lossy DTS Digital.

Good to know Nvidia Shield does it all. I hope it is not only does in Kodi as I don't like Kodi. Haha! smile.gif
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I am reading this :-

http://www.multipelife.com/best-media-play...-shield-tv.html

It did not seems to me Shield is using some special players ? Or they have gotten the "usual" video players which we all already know but customized for shield ?
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jun 4 2019, 02:13 AM)
These are not from the Google play store right? 😅
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Youtube Vanced can get from xda-developers forum. Make sure to install the latest microG if you want to sign-in with your Google account.
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post Jun 11 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 11 2019, 12:24 PM)
I am reading this :-

http://www.multipelife.com/best-media-play...-shield-tv.html

It did not seems to me Shield is using some special players ? Or they have gotten the "usual" video players which we all already know but customized for shield ?
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Hi. I unable to access the website. It mentioned can't reach

I hope somebody had actual unit can tell whether it do all those or not.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 11 2019, 01:03 PM)
Hi. I unable to access the website. It mentioned can't reach

I hope somebody had actual unit can tell whether it do all those or not.
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Best Media Players for Nvidia Shiled TV
#1 J2 Interactive MX Player
#2. Plex App for Android
#3 VLC Media Player from Videolabs
#4 Kodi App

Most people do not have hd audio hardware. Sound bar is your audio hardware ?


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QUOTE(Lochi @ Jun 11 2019, 12:14 PM)
Hello
Can anyone recommend me any good android box with price range rm250 and below. Im new to this box exosystem.  No 4k also fine. For my parents, they like to watch netflix, national geographic, discovery, islamic ch like astro oasis and probably some other movies that are not available in netflix malaysia.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 6 2019, 07:33 AM)
You too would do good to search this thread and see what's been said about the MiBox.. Else just grab the Minix Neo U9-H. It'll serve nicely...particularly for 1 & 2. If you'll only be watching 1080p content for the next few years? Then the Minix Neo U1 is sufficient. The Mecool M8S Pro L you mentioned can do what is asked. Problem is that, 1 & 2.. So far, only Minix boxes have reliably and consistently kept pace with both apps.. Update after Update.. Still works.
Search the thread =/= read all the pages.. How to search? C'mon, you joined this forum in 2009, you are a senior member with 6 stars. Don't tell me you still don't know how to use keywords to search threads.. An important feature on any discussion board. Don't be lazy.. The info is already here.. Spend an extra 5 minutes.

FYI, yes you can read all the pages.. It's just time you don't want to invest.. Searching intelligently will shorten this time drastically and get you the info.. Don't want? Then just go out and buy from one of those scrupulous sellers in Plaza Lowyat. Return here to complain when it's a shit experience.
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it is easier for you to tell me what i need to know if you can help me than typing all that nonsense that non related. huh, thanks btw.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 11 2019, 01:13 PM)
Best Media Players for Nvidia Shiled TV
#1 J2 Interactive MX Player
#2. Plex App for Android
#3 VLC Media Player from Videolabs
#4 Kodi App

Most people do not have hd audio hardware. Sound bar is your audio hardware ?
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Hi. Yup. My soundbar is support High Resolution Audio.

I am using LG SK9Y - https://www.lg.com/my/home-audio-systems/lg-SK9Y

The best player is like no others choice already. First cannot do like Plex catalog. 2nd Plex no good when enable Subtitle not in STR format. 3 is lousy. 4 probably the best but I dislike Kodi. Haha!

Now I can access the website. Lol

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 11 2019, 01:47 PM)
Hi. Yup. My soundbar is support High Resolution Audio.

I am using LG SK9Y - https://www.lg.com/my/home-audio-systems/lg-SK9Y

The best player is like no others choice already. First cannot do like Plex catalog. 2nd Plex no good when enable Subtitle not in STR format. 3 is lousy. 4 probably the best but I dislike Kodi. Haha!

Now I can access the website. Lol
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I just checked online the price for LG LK9Y is RM2639. I need to be quite "out-of-mind" to be willing to take that amount of money for a sound system. tongue.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 11 2019, 02:16 PM)
I just checked online the price for LG LK9Y is RM2639. I need to be quite "out-of-mind" to be willing to take that amount of money for a sound system.  tongue.gif  blush.gif
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I buy at only RM 2099 as promotion that time.

Ok la, the sound is awesome and can upgrade to 7.1.2 with physical 2 rear speaker.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jun 11 2019, 01:47 PM)
Hi. Yup. My soundbar is support High Resolution Audio.

I am using LG SK9Y - https://www.lg.com/my/home-audio-systems/lg-SK9Y

The best player is like no others choice already. First cannot do like Plex catalog. 2nd Plex no good when enable Subtitle not in STR format. 3 is lousy. 4 probably the best but I dislike Kodi. Haha!

Now I can access the website. Lol
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According to this post, they are saying this is done through Plex and Kodi :-

https://forums.plex.tv/t/nvidia-shield-with...-formats/201638

You can consider converting subtitle to SRT for your local files. smile.gif

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