not sure if anyone posted this before, but its a very good comparison of android box

http://www.webunit.co.uk/TVBOXES/charts/tvboxchart.html

http://chigztech.com/

Nope, I actually support Netflix's strategy. There are hundreds of Android devices variations out there and most have shabby software and hardware. If Netflix allows all like say YouTube, that leaves them open to much attacks. Remember, YouTube is free and is powered by the all supreme powers of huge Google. Netflix is a monthly subscription and has far lesser tech support. Better to channel resources to making and delivering better content (as we can see from how good the Netflix Originals are) than dealing with complaints from hundreds of thousands of individuals who simply buy don't know what box for super cheap and then expects it to handle all apps properly. This way, they ensure that people get what they pay for and that's the best possible experience from them and not hampered by crap boxes.

To obtain Netflix certification, the device has to meet specific criteria and all box manufacturers who qualify are welcome to apply for their certification. After all, Netflix is also in the business of making money.

See, that's where you are wrong bro.. Netflix is nothing but fair. Here's what they've done so far to show how fair they are:
*Have 4K capable device and adequate internet speeds and or want up to 4 devices streaming simultaneously? There's a separate plan for you.. It's called a Premium plan and comes at a cost.
*Have only up to 1080p devices and okay with up to 2 simultaneous devices? There's plan for you, its called the Standard Plan.
*Have only small screens, aka mobile devices and slower internet speeds? There's a plan for you, it's called the Basic Plan.
*Netflix even put up a help page with the minimum internet speeds requirement for best results.
*The first month on Netflix is free, meaning you can subscribe and have FULL access to their entire library for a month. Giving you ample time to test and decide on which of the above plans suits you. Don't like? Just terminate the account, no questions asked.

A Netflix subscription is not forced upon anyone, you'd have to willingly sign up for it and as such, must put in the required reading to figure out if it's the best for you and that includes having the required hardware for it... Here, some questions for you to understand the reasoning.
*You go out and buy a macOS only software cd knowing fully well you are running Windows at home and no idea of how to setup a Hackintosh. Who do you blame? Microsoft or Apple or the Software developer or...yourself?
*You go out and buy a PlayStation game only to later buy an Xbox, then complain it doesn't work. Who do you blame, Microsoft or Sony or the game developer or...yourself?
*When you buy electronic devices such as Fridges, Smartphones, Tablets, TVs, Sound systems, PCs, etc... Do you simply walk into a shop and just pay for the first one you see? No, I think not. Now if you do, then you are shopping wrong. What the average person typically does is to compare and contrast various models within one's budget and then settle on the most bang for buck device that still satisfies as much as possible.

So when you say, you were "lucky" or that others are "unlucky".. I say, good unto them. Cuz that's 100% their fault and surely not Netflix's. Netflix sells the good stuff and they are the best in what they do.. Hulu, Amazon, etc.. Theses guys do not come anywhere close to what Netflix has accomplished. It's unsurprising that on Netflix certified devices, the Netflix experience is wonderful. It's the same exact reason that Apple does not release it's macOS to be installed on anything but their very specific hardware. What, you think Samsung or HP or Lenovo are incapable of manufacturing a good PC that can run macOS even better than Apple's current hardware does? Nope.. It's about the end user's experience and making that the best for them. So again, Netflix doesn't even go the Apple route of never.. Netflix welcomes manufacturers to meet their very reachable requirements. It's up to the manufacturer to satisfy it or not. 

Everyone should have this thinking.. Logic is logic and cannot be faulted.. If everyone questioned things and only applied logic and fairness, the world won't have idiots today who think it's okay to grab a gun or strap on a vest to blow people up, just because a book written by someone else says its very much justified to do so or they can't handle the way the world works now. Good, you too are entitled to your opinion (this is a public forum after-all). If you can't accept it doesn't mean the logic is flawed.. I posted my comments to avoid others simply accepting flawed logic as true. I know the things I know, because I put in the work and not sit around expecting people to tell it all down to the last bit.. There's spoon-feeding and then there's extreme spoon-feeding. In this your very post, you already contradict yourself..

[*]Help page - https://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse (only mentioned quality is depends on internet line performance and subject to device capabilities **).. That is a warning given by Netflix already.. Simplest obvious meaning is to tell you that performance is dependent on your Internet Speeds and Device used..No? Plus they already offered free 1-month trial for you to test before payment starts.. Isn't one month more than enough for you to test current devices capabilities and if you require a different one or a lesser plan (I mentioned this in my previous post but as usual you don't have logical comebacks for such). Anyways, You say Google pulling out of Amazon devices is a business interest and has nothing to do with hardware capable or not.. Good grief! I never thought anyone could be that dense. How is it not related? Aren't Amazon devices more than capable of running YouTube or YouTube Red?.. Isn't Netflix requiring that certified devices actually be certified by them to get full capabilities a business decision? .. At least many are grateful (and this is another prime example of Netflix's fairness and customer-friendly policy) that Netflix didn't completely disable and disallow these non-certified devices from using their services. But allowed them to work unlike the Google and Amazon examples you brought up earlier to use in supporting your argument.. If you subscribe to TIME's 500Mbps package but only have devices at home with max real world speeds of up to 100Mbps, who's fault is it again? TIME's or you? Perhaps you want TIME to list on their website that "Hey, this package is only for those who have 100% verified 500Mpbs capable devices at home"... Bruh!! 

You say the User already know that their device is capable.. Oh okay.. I'm unaware of any scenario where an end user who is incapable of simple googling, much less understanding hardware specs and software limitations, is able to know more than the producer of the service. I love giving people analogies to see the illogicality behind their thought processes..In total finality, should my counterarguments be wasted on you, I hope others take note.. I always base my purchases on real world performance and not theoretical. Do your homework before pulling the trigger on any media device, lest you suffer a fate where what you thought it can do is different from real world performance..

ermm...i hope you guys stop netflix debate here...out of topic already.

you guys might want to have a look on this:
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

did you read the link?


i hope this might help you understand more on netflix 4k compatible device.
happy 2018 everyone.

Need to ask a question based on the following image. For those who have not done their basic research, please do not take the info from the image fully.



So my question : based on your experience, which android box can do Dolby Atmos/DTS X passthrough via HDMI, AND deliver Netflix 4K/Atmos and Youtube 4K for UHD TVs?

From the image above, it seems the only one that can do that is the Nvidea Shield. Second place goes to the Mi Box but no Dolby Atmos/DTS passthrough.

Second question: Is the chart anywhere near accurate?

I just want a box that can do these three things: a) Dolby Atmos/DTS X passthrough using Kodi or some other media player, b) Netflix UHD with Atmos passthrough, c) Youtube 4K.
fuad

Based on your requirements.. I suggest you throwaway the list as it's not even as accurate. Looks primarily based off benchmark results. The Minix Neo U1 isn't even on there. Yet it does YouTube up to 4K via Kodi addon or YouTube app and it supports HD Audio pass-through via HDMI.. I'm sure of up to Dolby Atmos, not sure of DTS:X cuz don't know anyone who has such a setup to test. The Minix Neo U9-H on the other hand can pass-through all including DTS:X audio.

As expected no Netflix UHD with Minix devices.. If you've got a Netflix certified 4K TV, best to use the app on it + an Android box for the best of both worlds... You could check out the latest MiBox too as it supports Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, UHD Netflix & YouTube 4K with the old app (read not to update it as the updated app has issues and won't play 4K res) ..IMO, I ruled it out for several reasons, including it not having an Ethernet Port and it phones home too much.. Or... Just get the Nvidia Shield 2 Box for a confident all-in-one package.

Good to know it works then.. That's why I put in the disclaimer that I read about it having issues and he should investigate if interested..Not that it does not work.. When I'm in the market to purchase any electronic device, I make sure to rank it's performance based off real world usage and performance of its specs from multiple owners... I do actual research (like what user "writesimply" is doing) and don't simply go out and buy a device, hoping it would do what I want. Here are some of the links that mentioned it had issues, not that I was simply pulling info out from thin air..

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well any point of getting that shield since i am not for gaming?

Sure, Porsches, Ferrari, Teslas, Lamborghinis, Bugattis, etc all are "overpriced" junk.. Just cuz you don't see the point.. Doesn't mean it's not or doesn't do better. Others that do see the point and can afford it will get it.. Easy as that.

Nah bruh.. The Nvidia Shield doesn't need defending.. It does its thing and does it well. You seem to be the one who needs to defend your purchase of an underperforming overhyped MiBox.. Heck, you wrote yourself that HDR feature doesn't work.. Your words not mine... 

Guess who's HDR works?? Yes, the Shield.. Now run along and enjoy subpar performance.. Those who seek confirmed working HDR amongst other features will get devices that actually do what is advertised. Just laying down facts..

Commented like one who has no idea that HDR content exists elsewhere other than YouTube and Netflix.. Here, let me educate you.. Amazon Videos does HDR, want to know how I know? I've watched episodes of The Grand Tour. The 2018 PyeongChang Winter Olympics can be watched in glorious 4K HDR.. Bluray content exist in either x265 or x264 4K HDR.. Vudu does HDR... All these are available and easily accessible by those who know how and with the right functioning equipment.. Been there, done that.. Don't get me started on DTS:X support.. Which, you guessed it.. Is supported on the Shield but not the MiBox..   So next time before you go around dissing on a device or things you have limited knowledge about, you might want to take a step back and rethink.

Don't hate the player, hate the game... I'm off to sleep.. You might want to get some too..

Edit: noticed your edited post. The above still applies. Even more so the car analogy. Some people rather be stuck in traffic in the back seat of a 7 series than a kancil.. 

The Bluray is not really capable of 4K, so its the TV which doing the upscaling.

But newer TV BOx is itself capable of 4K. If resolution is set at 1080p, then basically when playing 4k content, it will have to downscale first by the TV Box, and then upscale again at the TV. Quality will not be good.

So when one has a TV and TVBox which are both capable of 4K, then it is best to set at 4K resolution or best resolution. Then basically one is using the upscaler in the tvbox and never the upscaler in TV.

And therefore when uhd bluray player plays non-uhd bluray disc on 4k tv, it is the bluray player which performs the upscaling, not the tv.

The reason for doing the bolded. When the tvbox is doing a shitty job of upscaling and when most of the content one plays is below 4k. Setting resolution to 1080p will then allow the TV to perform 4k upscaling.

Read this thread by Shield users. Some are doing this exact setting in view of poor upscale quality from Shield.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/91...ield-4k-uhd-/4/

guys.. can anyone teach me on how to watch Astro on the go with my Peedo X92 box? still trying to search for the answer.. but till now no solutions on that.. thanks all