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Avangelice
post Sep 6 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(kenooi90 @ Sep 6 2017, 05:30 PM)
Hi guys,

Ken here, newbie for FSM. I cant perform a payment via FPX or Funds transfer. It will automatically set the payment method to cheque.

Anyone have any idea how to or I need to set up the FPX things?

I am using Maybank for the payment.
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what's with this new generation of investors that are being spoon fed. also am I the only one worried that they can't even by pass payment methods and what more you can say about portfolio management and diversifying your funds.

bro just follow they buttons. it's not rocket science.
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post Sep 6 2017, 08:58 PM

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hi guys,

i just started FSM 2 month ago .. smile.gif

may i know how long it take for RHB EMBF to distribute the income and reinvested back?

I've checked the "Statement of income distribution" but no data available in table. sad.gif sad.gif


This post has been edited by Vinzcent: Sep 6 2017, 09:00 PM
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post Sep 6 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Vinzcent @ Sep 6 2017, 08:58 PM)
hi guys,

i just started FSM 2 month ago ..  smile.gif

may i know how long it take for RHB EMBF to distribute the income and reinvested back?

I've checked the "Statement of income distribution" but no data available in table.  sad.gif  sad.gif
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may i know how long it take for RHB EMBF to distribute the income and reinvested back?
my guess is immediately on Ex Date ...22 Aug
but usually it will takes about 1~3 weeks to get the extra units reflected in your FSM's a/c
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post Sep 6 2017, 11:22 PM

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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/research/-View-Idea-of-The-Week-Financial-Crises-and-Recessions-%E2%80%93-Should-Investors-Worry-about-Them--18-August-2017--8743

For example, if we assume that investors missed out on the 10 days of best returns within the 10 year period (due to poor market timing), their 10-year return would be reduced significantly to only 51% and 16%. For investors who missed out 30 days of the best returns over the past 10 years, their return would be -2% and -29%. As such, from this finding, we can conclude that if one doesn’t have a crystal ball, it is wise to stay invested in the market as it can be very costly to time the market.


what does it mean by miss out 10 day of best return?
what is the 10 day?
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post Sep 6 2017, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Sep 6 2017, 06:47 PM)
Yeah, i had the same misunderstanding last time when i first started using it. But actually its not a mistake, just carry on as per normal, it will bring you to the fpx page
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opsss, okkk. thx bro.
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post Sep 6 2017, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 6 2017, 07:19 PM)
what's with this new generation of investors that are being spoon fed. also am I the only one worried that they can't even by pass payment methods and what more you can say about portfolio management and diversifying your funds.

bro just follow they buttons. it's not rocket science.
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sad to heard that. nvm, I'm keep learning here. Anyway thanks bro.
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post Sep 7 2017, 12:38 AM

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Been lurking a long time here. Pretty interesting when you guys catch and pitch with each other.

Finally took the plunge and signed up for a FSM account, mainly for the reason of PRS but once I've accumulated RM 10K will jump into the managed portfolio (most likely the aggressive portfolio) and get my bearings of all the terminologies.

Now the painful wait for the identity verification to go through.

Appreciate all the (past) insights from all forum members and look forward to eventually catching and pitching with you guys as well. First step into the UT world biggrin.gif

Btw any forum members attending the "How to Construct a Winning Portfolio?" workshop during the weekend? I'll likely be there.

A friend of mine feels there will be an obvious bias into the instruments they vouch for, since they only do UTs lol.

Any thoughts?

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post Sep 7 2017, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(AOL24 @ Sep 7 2017, 12:38 AM)
Been lurking a long time here. Pretty interesting when you guys catch and pitch with each other.

Finally took the plunge and signed up for a FSM account, mainly for the reason of PRS but once I've accumulated RM 10K will jump into the managed portfolio (most likely the aggressive portfolio) and get my bearings of all the terminologies.

Now the painful wait for the identity verification to go through.

Appreciate all the (past) insights from all forum members and look forward to eventually catching and pitching with you guys as well. First step into the UT world biggrin.gif

Btw any forum members attending the "How to Construct a Winning Portfolio?" workshop during the weekend? I'll likely be there.

A friend of mine feels there will be an obvious bias into the instruments they vouch for, since they only do UTs lol.

Any thoughts?
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hi welcome to the world of investing where nothing is certain.

i wont be attending those workshops but if you could be a nice guy and give us a welcoming 'tribute', you could give us a summary of important stuff they said there.

your friend is not wrong to say there is bias, it's organized by them for crying out loud, surely they have it to promote their stuff. however, what we see are hard numbers and results, so let them say wat they wan, come back do some research on how true are the stuff they said. you might learn something new that we have no idea about.

ps: joking about the tribute. would appreciate if you could do, but no pressure. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kenooi90 @ Sep 6 2017, 11:31 PM)
sad to heard that. nvm, I'm keep learning here. Anyway thanks bro.
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excuse the brother there, sometimes a bit of googling and FAQ might help before asking here. with that being said, usually that is what happens anyway. first time usually are scary in case they run off with your money aka skim cepat kaya. give it 3 days, the thing will move along. did you get an email saying you already made the transaction? if you did, then just wait it out?
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Hi everyone, want to know everyone's average YOY returns for UT for the past 3 years?

Because I wanted to 'sai lang' into UT instead of putting my savings into my housing loan account to reduce interest. My housing loan account is 4.2% interest currently. If UT can generate 8-10% per annum consistently and without much additional risk, then I am okay. If my portfolio of UT only can generate <6% per annum, better put in my housing loan as it is a safer bet & risk free. I will most probably put 50% in bonds and 50% in equities.

Of course, I am free to move between UT and loan account when interest rates go up or equities doing bad because nowadays it's so accessible with FSM.

Thanks for all your opinion.
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 7 2017, 02:06 PM)
Hi everyone, want to know everyone's average YOY returns for UT for the past 3 years?

Because I wanted to 'sai lang' into UT instead of putting my savings into my housing loan account to reduce interest. My housing loan account is 4.2% interest currently. If UT can generate 8-10% per annum consistently and without much additional risk, then I am okay. If my portfolio of UT only can generate <6% per annum, better put in my housing loan as it is a safer bet & risk free. I will most probably put 50% in bonds and 50% in equities.

Of course, I am free to move between UT and loan account when interest rates go up or equities doing bad because nowadays it's so accessible with FSM.

Thanks for all your opinion.
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i think much higher chance to get 8-10% annualized than consistently per annum.... hmm.gif
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post Sep 7 2017, 02:43 PM

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Many people said.....never invest with borrowed money.....
But if one can ...don't depend on that money to do things as normal for a few years...then i guess it is save to do ut investment with borrowed money.......try the managed portfolio service for a better chance of success for starters
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post Sep 7 2017, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 7 2017, 02:43 PM)
Many people said.....never invest with borrowed money.....
But if one can ...don't depend on that money to do things as normal for a few years...then i guess it is save to do ut investment with borrowed money.......try the managed portfolio service for a better chance of success for starters
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Not investing with borrowed money. Housing loan is my first house for my own stay. But I can have extra savings monthly after deducting my monthly house installments and have 6 months installments parked in the flexi-mortgage account.

As I have extra savings every month, the dilemma is to put into the flexi-mortgage account to save interest or invest in UT?
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 7 2017, 04:33 PM)
Not investing with borrowed money. Housing loan is my first house for my own stay. But I can have extra savings monthly after deducting my monthly house installments and have 6 months installments parked in the flexi-mortgage account.

As I have extra savings every month, the dilemma is to put into the flexi-mortgage account to save interest or invest in UT?
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If you want...you can try see fsm recommended portfolio...3 yrs 30% roi....at 60% fi : 40% eq....
See if you want to mimik it.
Past performance may not be an indication of future or continue performance....
As commended by forummer funnyface....better chances of getting annualsed than pa.
If focused at pa...maybe results in selling off unnecessary thus lose.

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post Sep 7 2017, 04:45 PM

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Is that means PRS without sales charge

PRIVATE RETIREMENT SCHEME (PRS)
Private Retirement Scheme - Moderate
Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund 6 9.76 2.29 11.09 20.64 21.64 - 0 Buy this PRS!
Private Retirement Scheme - Conservative
Kenanga OnePRS Conservative Fund 4 5.31 0.77 5.48 11.01 13.59 - 0 Buy this PRS!
Private Retirement Scheme - Growth
Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund 8 12.94 0.51 12.52 22.06 22.24 - 0 Buy this PRS!
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 7 2017, 04:33 PM)
Not investing with borrowed money. Housing loan is my first house for my own stay. But I can have extra savings monthly after deducting my monthly house installments and have 6 months installments parked in the flexi-mortgage account.

As I have extra savings every month, the dilemma is to put into the flexi-mortgage account to save interest or invest in UT?
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*Disclaimer: i am neither encourage nor discourage to dump your extra cash into UT or housing loan, the below statement is based on personal experience and your result might/will different than me.

Just for you reference, 100k for housing interest is around Rm340 per month for 4.2%
If you dump into Managed Portfolio, you will be LOSING RM1000 the day you sign up, or RM1500 into all equities or RM750 for 50:50 EQ:FI.

Now, if you check back my monthly updates on Managed Portfolio, you can decide yourself if the risk/return is OK for you nod.gif
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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Sep 7 2017, 04:45 PM)
Is that means PRS without sales charge

PRIVATE RETIREMENT SCHEME (PRS)
Private Retirement Scheme - Moderate
Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund 6 9.76 2.29 11.09 20.64 21.64 - 0 Buy this PRS!
Private Retirement Scheme - Conservative
Kenanga OnePRS Conservative Fund 4 5.31 0.77 5.48 11.01 13.59 - 0 Buy this PRS!
Private Retirement Scheme - Growth
Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund 8 12.94 0.51 12.52 22.06 22.24 - 0 Buy this PRS!
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Use the funds info tool at fsm my site to see the sc data
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post Sep 7 2017, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 7 2017, 04:33 PM)
Not investing with borrowed money. Housing loan is my first house for my own stay. But I can have extra savings monthly after deducting my monthly house installments and have 6 months installments parked in the flexi-mortgage account.

As I have extra savings every month, the dilemma is to put into the flexi-mortgage account to save interest or invest in UT?
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IMHO, manage your debt first. For that 6 month installment, that is what, 5-6% (what's the rate now ?) interest avoided guaranteed.
You put that in investment, no guarantees. Could lose more if a crash happens or could underperform.
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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Sep 7 2017, 04:45 PM)
Is that means PRS without sales charge

PRIVATE RETIREMENT SCHEME (PRS)
Private Retirement Scheme - Moderate
Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund 6 9.76 2.29 11.09 20.64 21.64 - 0 Buy this PRS!
Private Retirement Scheme - Conservative
Kenanga OnePRS Conservative Fund 4 5.31 0.77 5.48 11.01 13.59 - 0 Buy this PRS!
Private Retirement Scheme - Growth
Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund 8 12.94 0.51 12.52 22.06 22.24 - 0 Buy this PRS!
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All PRS if bought from FSM got no service charge.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Sep 7 2017, 06:05 PM)
IMHO, manage your debt first. For that 6 month installment, that is what, 5-6% (what's the rate now ?) interest avoided guaranteed.
You put that in investment, no guarantees. Could lose more if a crash happens or could underperform.
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*Disclaimer: i am neither encourage nor discourage to dump your extra cash into UT or housing loan, the below statement is based on personal experience and your result might/will different than me.


Well, there are multiple ways of viewing it laugh.gif

My personal opinion is, the risk of getting less return than housing loan interest is low. In fact low enough that i would chose UT over HL any time.

Plus, early settle your house wont generate extra income for you as oppose to UT. I would rather pay installment for additional 10 years, why you may ask? The installment amount after 20 years will be nothing to me compare to the return of the 100k that i invested into UT now. whistling.gif

But that is just me, others might see it differently rolleyes.gif

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