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frankzane
post Feb 28 2022, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2022, 02:27 PM)
Bank H charges:
SC: 0.88% (promo now, may goes up to 1.5%)
Management fee: 1.8%
Fund from Bank H ....Don't have these data on
Annual expense ratio: % and Trustee fee; %?

Should I switch to bank H instead?
for me, it will depends on some other factors like these
are you buying in large amount?
are you frequently buying into that fund?
do you liked that user interface or customer service between that bank H and FSM?
will you be paying ANOTHER SC to bank H due to the switch...for you had already paid SC to FSM previously?
some funds in FSM has redemption fees....
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2022, 02:27 PM)
Bank H charges:
SC: 0.88% (promo now, may goes up to 1.5%)
Management fee: 1.8%
Fund from Bank H ....Don't have these data on
Annual expense ratio: % and Trustee fee; %?

Should I switch to bank H instead?
for me, it will depends on some other factors like these
are you buying in large amount?
are you frequently buying into that fund?
do you liked that user interface or customer service between that bank H and FSM?
will you be paying ANOTHER SC to bank H due to the switch...for you had already paid SC to FSM previously?
some funds in FSM has redemption fees....
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Thanks for your input.

Bank H charges:
SC: 0.88% (promo now, may goes up to 1.5%)
Management fee: 1.8%
Fund from Bank H ....Don't have these data on
Annual expense ratio: % and Trustee fee; %? No info on the first. Coincidently, Bank H is the Trustee for Fund A. So does that means that Trustee Fee is no longer applicable?

Should I switch to bank H instead?
for me, it will depends on some other factors like these
are you buying in large amount? How would that affect the decision? hmm.gif
are you frequently buying into that fund? Occasionally
do you liked that user interface or customer service between that bank H and FSM? Both using app. No need to deal with customer service.
will you be paying ANOTHER SC to bank H due to the switch...for you had already paid SC to FSM previously? For this you are right, but I'm looking at long term saving in terms of fees.
some funds in FSM has redemption fees....NIL for this fund
pinksapphire
post Feb 28 2022, 04:56 PM

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Hey guys, general question here, haven't visited for quite a while. How's FSM doing? Still many staying invested or maybe going in more during these times of uncertainty?

I honestly don't know what to do for investment anymore. It's like, nothing's certain except FD, lol
sgh
post Feb 28 2022, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 28 2022, 04:56 PM)
Hey guys, general question here, haven't visited for quite a while. How's FSM doing? Still many staying invested or maybe going in more during these times of uncertainty?

I honestly don't know what to do for investment anymore. It's like, nothing's certain except FD, lol
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If you like FD stay it that way. Now is bear market times. It is good for those who have not experienced before to finally experience it in one whole investment journey. Once out of bear run, hopefully one become a seasoned and veteran investor. Some will continue invest some will exit and goes for more safety instrument like FD you suggest.
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post Feb 28 2022, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 28 2022, 03:06 PM)
Thanks for your input.

Bank H charges:
SC: 0.88% (promo now, may goes up to 1.5%)
Management fee: 1.8%
Fund from Bank H ....Don't have these data on
Annual expense ratio: % and Trustee fee; %? No info on the first. Coincidently, Bank H is the Trustee for Fund A.
So does that means that  Trustee Fee is no longer applicable?
check the fund prospectus... Should hv been listed there... Should be Cannot escape the trustee fees n mgmt fees n other fees... Bank H entity n trustee with that bank's name should be different entity
Should I switch to bank H instead?
for me, it will depends on some other factors like these
are you buying in large amount? How would that affect the decision? hmm.gif
for if large amount the real money impacted will be more than small amount of money. Invest rm100k x 0.5% vs invest Rm1k x 0.5%

are you frequently buying into that fund? Occasionally

do you liked that user interface or customer service between that bank H and FSM?
Both using app. No need to deal with customer service.
customer service will be appreciated when having technical issues, required investment ideas or suggestion etc etc

will you be paying ANOTHER SC to bank H due to the switch...for you had already paid SC to FSM previously?
For this you are right, but I'm looking at long term saving in terms of fees.
in that case would it better to just leave it there in FSM but start new investment with bank H?

some funds in FSM has redemption fees....NIL for this fund
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post Feb 28 2022, 06:58 PM

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-20% unrealised loss position for my UTs (half China equity, half global balanced) in view of worrisome global news. Hope this doesn't become falling knife, don't have the stomach to average down at the moment

This post has been edited by diversity: Feb 28 2022, 06:58 PM
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post Mar 1 2022, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 28 2022, 06:28 PM)

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Thanks. That would be a valuable inputs from you. nod.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 03:22 PM

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-11% for me liao ugh stupid war...
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post Mar 2 2022, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Mar 2 2022, 03:22 PM)
-11% for me liao ugh stupid war...
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DOn’t blame the war as pending upcoming uncertainty of fed rate hike which exacerbate the volatility doh.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Feb 28 2022, 09:59 AM)
For those wondering regarding Interpac Dana Safi recent performance. FSM inform that the fund manager went all into cash coz of the recent downturn. Same story for the other fund that stagnant under Interpac.
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Did fsm inform via email?
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post Mar 2 2022, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Mar 2 2022, 03:22 PM)
-11% for me liao ugh stupid war...
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not yet factor in I belip
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post Mar 3 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kpjh @ Mar 2 2022, 06:35 PM)
Did fsm inform via email?
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i sent them email. they call me to explain. quite good service i think. i didnt had a long chat. i was busy attending a funeral at the time. sweat.gif

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post Mar 4 2022, 03:34 PM

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These are trying times to eke out profits from equities and bonds markets. Based on latest FSM articles they are suspecting many more deep hike rates ahead and how to do we still churn profits in such times? They lay down below points.

1. Invest Asian markets like Asian ex-Japan equities in core regional equities portfolio
2. Invest in commodity-related equities as a hedge e.g Natural Resources, Energy, Mining, Gold etc
3. Invest in global financials
4. Invest and choose short duration fixed income exposure

Not saying FSM recommendations are correct on every point, at least I know point 1 a lot of SA has deep mistrust on the KWEB in their portfolio etc. So share my recent focused DCA (now include ETF from FSM ETF RSP)

FSSA Dividend Advantage A QDIS SGD
FSSA Regional China A Acc SGD
Blackrock World Mining A2 SGD-H
HKEX (3143): ChinaAMC Hong Kong Banks ETF (bi-annual dividend)
SGX (CYC): ICBC CSOP FTSE Chinese Government Bond Index ETF (bi-annual dividend)
SGX (GSD): SPDR® Gold Shares

I have stopped my DCA for all other region,sectors now as market too choppy and I think I maybe missing a global financials portfolio.

Anyone of you find the equivalent offered in FSM Msia tied to the above points?
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 3 2022, 03:25 PM)
i sent them email. they call me to explain. quite good service i think. i didnt had a long chat. i was busy attending a funeral at the time.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Feb 28 2022, 04:56 PM)
Hey guys, general question here, haven't visited for quite a while. How's FSM doing? Still many staying invested or maybe going in more during these times of uncertainty?

I honestly don't know what to do for investment anymore. It's like, nothing's certain except FD, lol
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How about dividend stocks & robo-ETF?


QUOTE(sgh @ Feb 28 2022, 05:27 PM)
Now is bear market times. It is good for those who have not experienced before to finally experience it in one whole investment journey. Once out of bear run, hopefully one become a seasoned and veteran investor.
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Yeah, just only realised today that my UTs had been in decline, some started as early as beginning of 2021 while others around mid-end 2021.

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Mar 5 2022, 11:43 PM)
Yeah, just only realised today that my UTs had been in decline, some started as early as beginning of 2021 while others around mid-end 2021.
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You are so lucky to meet bear market at the start of your investment journey. I started around 2000 dot com bubble era and it is painful but it make me stronger as in whether investment is still for me. I decided full time job still must do and take investment as a side project.

2000 era no ETF but the rise of mutual funds and of cuz the old stocks investment. Now 2022 stocks still around and the rise of ETF which is actually conceptually same as mutual fund with the low expense ratio freebie thrown in. Newer ETF are getting more actively managed and expense ratio rising too.
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post Mar 7 2022, 06:53 PM

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anyone have any good recommendation for commodities funds/etf? oil, gold, wheat etc
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:24 PM

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https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...c=fund-calendar

this is one legendary MMF fund
thought -20% YTD is horrifying enuf, now it is YTD -48.93%

still find the FSM 0 risk rating ironic
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post Mar 7 2022, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 7 2022, 06:53 PM)
anyone have any good recommendation for commodities funds/etf? oil, gold, wheat etc
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Even if you start buying now too late already as the upside already priced in way way earlier doh.gif

GLD/IAU for Gold
XLE/XOP/DBO for oil

Here just some examples as there are many around
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:24 PM)
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...c=fund-calendar

this is one legendary MMF fund
thought -20% YTD is horrifying enuf, now it is YTD -48.93%

still find the FSM 0 risk rating ironic
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the top holding is serba dinamik, with the recent issue on news
which explains why the sudden drop.

thats why i don't invest in fund size house less than 500 million.

but anyway, hold it if u dont need the cash at the moment?
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post Mar 7 2022, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:24 PM)
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...c=fund-calendar

this is one legendary MMF fund
thought -20% YTD is horrifying enuf, now it is YTD -48.93%

still find the FSM 0 risk rating ironic
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THe fund holders need question to the fund manager because knee jerk reaction and when doing noth8ng is just better for MMF doh.gif

It shows that even Shariah also can be manipulative, lack ethics principles and responbilities

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