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post Nov 25 2020, 08:40 AM

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but if looking at the FM's level....some superb performance had happened too during certain times within this period also


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post Nov 25 2020, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 25 2020, 01:45 AM)
fun fact to observe bond fund which is on RMB/CNY
e.g. RHB CHina Bond Fund

the return rate can be so different, almost double if u invest in CNY compared in MYR
is it because MYR has depreciated a lot against CNY?

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yes in fact i feel rmb will appreciate against MYR long run
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post Nov 25 2020, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 25 2020, 08:48 AM)
yes in fact i feel rmb will appreciate against MYR long run
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i mean cry.gif for MYR



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post Nov 25 2020, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 25 2020, 08:48 AM)
yes in fact i feel rmb will appreciate against MYR long run
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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 25 2020, 09:05 AM)
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so investing in foreign bond fund e.g. RHB China Bond fund is like playing forex a bit
because from my understanding, the fund performance from the bond itself in RMB just around 5.79%
which doesn't outperform the majority bond fund in MY, like Amanahraya

but due to the forex factor, it becomes top-performing bond fund by far
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post Nov 25 2020, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 25 2020, 09:11 AM)
so investing in foreign bond fund e.g. RHB China Bond fund is like playing forex a bit
because from my understanding, the fund performance from the bond itself in RMB just around 5.79%
which doesn't outperform the majority bond fund in MY, like Amanahraya

but due to the forex factor, it becomes top-performing bond fund by far
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what about the MYR HEDGED version?
will it be less volatile?
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post Nov 25 2020, 09:21 AM

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post Nov 25 2020, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 25 2020, 09:17 AM)
what about the MYR HEDGED version?
will it be less volatile?
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if put MYD HEDGED and MYR / RMB in chart centre, it doesn't look like it is less volatile,
but u got less return because MYR HEDGED mean u bet on MYR whistling.gif
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post Nov 25 2020, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 25 2020, 10:43 AM)
if put MYD HEDGED and MYR / RMB in chart centre, it doesn't look like it is less volatile,
but u got less return because MYR HEDGED mean u bet on MYR  whistling.gif
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but upon looking at closer.....
looks like the MYR HEDGED does not have high JIG ZAG rate movement...
will that mean lower volatility?

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post Nov 25 2020, 10:59 AM

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post Nov 25 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 25 2020, 10:53 AM)
but upon looking at closer.....
looks like the MYR HEDGED does not have high JIG ZAG rate movement...
will that mean lower volatility?
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yeah agree also, i think it is less volatile because when u buy MYR HEDGE, you lock the forex rate, so ur performance/NAV movement is merely the fund movement.

not hedged tends to be more volatile because it moves due
1) forex + 2) fund

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 25 2020, 09:11 AM)
so investing in foreign bond fund e.g. RHB China Bond fund is like playing forex a bit
because from my understanding, the fund performance from the bond itself in RMB just around 5.79%
which doesn't outperform the majority bond fund in MY, like Amanahraya

but due to the forex factor, it becomes top-performing bond fund by far
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 25 2020, 11:08 AM)
yeah agree also, i think it is less volatile because when u buy MYR HEDGE, you look the forex rate, so ur performance/NAV movement is merely the fund movement.

not hedged tends to be more volatile because it moves due
1) forex + 2) fund
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post Nov 25 2020, 02:40 PM

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FSM website crash? Why suddenly got an unscheduled maintenance?
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post Nov 25 2020, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Nov 25 2020, 02:40 PM)
FSM website crash? Why suddenly got an unscheduled maintenance?
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif i wanna check NAV n top up my fund............. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Nov 25 2020, 02:48 PM

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same experience here, can't login

QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Nov 25 2020, 02:40 PM)
FSM website crash? Why suddenly got an unscheduled maintenance?
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I hope it won't effect any of the top up I did earlier today.
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post Nov 25 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 25 2020, 02:43 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  i wanna check NAV n top up my fund............. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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fyi, looks like website ok already...
but looks like already after the cut off time sad.gif

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post Nov 25 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 25 2020, 03:11 PM)
fyi, looks like website ok already...
but looks like already after the cut off time sad.gif
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Ya, i know
B4 cut off seen like the apps back to normal
But when i try log in using mobile web, it state under maintenance.
I takut, so i just off it.
Takut nanti panjang cerita
😁 May b that is a sign from the god

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post Nov 25 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 25 2020, 03:19 PM)
Ya, i know
B4 cut off seen like the apps back to normal
But when i try log in using mobile web, it state under maintenance.
I takut, so i just off it.
Takut nanti panjang cerita
😁 May b that is a sign from the god
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ya lor.
better save than sorry for the "experience" of possible suspension of "stuck" transaction and/or payment biggrin.gif

hope the price variance will be better for you if you get it tomorrow....
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post Nov 26 2020, 01:32 PM

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If not met the requirement still can proceed buy wholesale fund?
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post Nov 26 2020, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Nov 26 2020, 01:32 PM)
If not met the requirement still can proceed buy wholesale fund?
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previously,...many had mentioned that it could be done.
thus YES.

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