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post Nov 20 2020, 06:11 PM

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united golden opportunity is myr hedged.

in theory, if gold go down and usd go down too (as is the case now), it should not go down as much for the fund because its myr hedged. but if gold go down and usd strengthen (which is the usual case), it's double f***ed
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post Nov 20 2020, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 20 2020, 03:56 PM)
US region susah sikit la

Global region easy.....United Global Healthcare Fund - Class A - MYR Acc (almost 70% US)

https://www.fsmone.com.my/admin/buy/factshe...etMYUGHFMYR.pdf

*** sorry, u mahu cari fund managers????? ingat mahu cari UT ..... sweat.gif
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ya UT i mean. lol thanks alot!
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post Nov 20 2020, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Nov 1 2020, 12:21 PM)
Anyone using ios device why the app can’t view fund fact pdf
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Do you also have issue to search fund by keywords on chart centre when using iPad? Unable to type any letter on the search bar in chart centre, do you have same problem?

No issue on pc or iPhone though, weird?

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post Nov 20 2020, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Nov 20 2020, 06:46 PM)
ya UT i mean. lol thanks alot!
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Though u wanna find UT manager, its ok bcoz that fund in my watch list, 😁😁😁
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post Nov 20 2020, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 20 2020, 10:36 AM)
fyi,
RHB Global Artificial Intelligence Fund is 90.7% in US
and also heavy in Tech...thus maybe high corelated to your existing TA Global Tech fund
https://www.fsmone.com.my/admin/buy/factshe...etMYRGSIFMH.pdf
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Yes, that's a good point. Thanks for pointing it out.

I might just decide to invest a bt into the Principal Millennial Fund, and keep my current allocations in Principal Global Titan and TA Tech.

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post Nov 21 2020, 01:00 AM

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Need help. I bought a fund a few days ago. Usually before this new website design, it will automatically deduct from my FSM cash account (it will say as cheque payment--don't know why FSM use such term).

However, noticed that till date, it is still pending for payment and choice of payment is only fpx online or upload deposit slip. I tried paying with the fpx online just now but decided to cancel it halfway as was wondering if there would be double payment as don't understand why they are not deducting from my cash account as per previously before this stupid new website. Now, its not letting me pay using fpx online anymore (as I cancelled the earlier one) and I'm supposed to mail proof of payment to them and then do a stupid upload or mail them proof of payment when pay. Guess they are expecting me to go to my bank account and do payment from there bangwall.gif Really mad as I got a good price for the fund a few days ago. Most likely will just cancel the order. Really dislike this stupid new website design.

1) So question is how do we get FSM to use our cash account for payment next time I want to buy?

2) Also, will I still get the price based on date of order if I make payment today as it has been a few working days already or will it be base on the working day that I made payment which will then be on Monday?



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post Nov 21 2020, 07:41 AM

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wow, does anyone here know why AmanahRaya Syariah Trust Fund beats all other local Fixed Income funds on FSM by a mile? I'm comparing the 2Y, 3Y & 5Y returns, all no fight. now at a time when the Bond Pricing Agency M'sia (BPAM) shows the bond prices are dropping, this ASTF pula just keep going up. very impressive.

the obvious answer is their bond selections are doing very well but how did they manage to select the correct bonds vs other bond fund houses? is it the awesome fund manager? their shariah compliancy? strong relationship?

i picked AmBond on the basis that it is the best performing fund with no shariah 'limitation'. obviously now i'm second guessing my choice sad.gif
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 21 2020, 01:00 AM)
Need help. I bought a fund a few days ago. Usually before this new website design, it will automatically deduct from my FSM cash account (it will say as cheque payment--don't know why FSM use such term).

However, noticed that till date, it is still pending for payment and choice of payment is only fpx online or upload deposit slip. I tried paying with the fpx online just now but decided to cancel it halfway as was wondering if there would be double payment as don't understand why they are not deducting from my cash account as per previously before this stupid new website. Now, its not  letting me pay using fpx online anymore (as I cancelled the earlier one) and I'm supposed to mail proof of payment to them and then do a stupid upload or mail them proof of payment when pay. Guess they are expecting me to go to my bank account and do payment from there bangwall.gif  Really mad as I got a good price for the fund a few days ago. Most likely will just cancel the order. Really dislike this stupid new website design.

1) So question is how do we get FSM to use our cash account for payment next time I want to buy?

2) Also, will I still get the price based on date of order if I make payment today as it has been a few working days already or will it be base on the working day that I made payment which will then be on Monday?
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try this (per image) for your question 1

as per your question 2...as per their FAQs:
"Your buy orders will only be transacted when payment is received.....before the cut off time and any buy order received after cut off time will process on the next business day".

"If we receive your payment before the cutoff time on a business day, your units will be priced as of the closing price of the market on that day itself. For payments received after the cutoff time or on a non-business day, your units will be priced based on the next business day.

Given that the fund management companies require time to consolidate, calculate and verify unit prices with independent trustees, you will only know the exact unit price two working days later. You will receive an email from us once your units have been priced."


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post Nov 21 2020, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 20 2020, 03:36 PM)
fyi,
RHB Global Artificial Intelligence Fund is 90.7% in US
and also heavy in Tech...thus maybe high corelated to your existing TA Global Tech fund
https://www.fsmone.com.my/admin/buy/factshe...etMYRGSIFMH.pdf
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RHB Artificial Intelligence Fund performs better than TA technology fund simply because the tech funds selected are much better than TA. both are feeder funds one managed by Allianz while the other Janus. As i know Allianz is one of top fund managers in the world but not Janus.
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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Nov 21 2020, 07:41 AM)
wow, does anyone here know why AmanahRaya Syariah Trust Fund beats all other local Fixed Income funds on FSM by a mile? I'm comparing the 2Y, 3Y & 5Y returns, all no fight. now at a time when the Bond Pricing Agency M'sia (BPAM) shows the bond prices are dropping, this ASTF pula just keep going up. very impressive.

the obvious answer is their bond selections are doing very well but how did they manage to select the correct bonds vs other bond fund houses? is it the awesome fund manager? their shariah compliancy? strong relationship?

i picked AmBond on the basis that it is the best performing fund with no shariah 'limitation'. obviously now i'm second guessing my choice sad.gif
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on that,...try see image and compare?...maybe can get an idea?


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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 08:16 AM)
RHB Artificial Intelligence Fund performs better than TA technology fund simply because the tech funds selected are much better than TA. both are feeder funds one managed by Allianz while the other Janus. As i know Allianz is one of top fund managers in the world but not Janus.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2020, 08:40 AM)
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Let's see which fund performs better incoming year but i am very sure Allianz Intelligence Fund returns will surpass Janus Technology Fund. You can check asset under both fund managers Allianz EURO2268billion vs Janus of USD374billion. Just YTD alone Allianz Artificial Intelligence Fund return is 60% vs Janus of only 30%. You have to look at underlying securities. you must invest in tech funds that are growing in demand especially into cloud services which are disruptive in nature (such as tesla talking about autonomous driving, producing cheaper batteries) and not those into boring old apple, alibaba shares...

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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 08:58 AM)
Let's see which fund performs better incoming year but i am very sure Allianz Intelligence Fund returns will surpass Janus Technology Fund. You can check asset under both fund managers Allianz EURO2268billion vs Janus of USD374billion
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i am sure it will be better too in the coming year inclusive of the annualised returns of years to come too as it YTD ROI is already >100% of TA thumbup.gif
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RHB Intelligence Fund is the only disruptive AI Funds that i can find in FSM Malaysia. You have more of such funds in FSM Singapore. Unfortunately because of protectionist policy in Malaysia, we dont get to access to better funds overseas. TA also perform during the year but how much further can it go given its matured underlying shares like alibaba, apple...Other tech funds in FSM Malaysia are also into these kind of stocks which i find not so interesting.
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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 08:58 AM)
Let's see which fund performs better incoming year but i am very sure Allianz Intelligence Fund returns will surpass Janus Technology Fund. You can check asset under both fund managers Allianz EURO2268billion vs Janus of USD374billion. Just YTD alone Allianz Artificial Intelligence Fund return is 60% vs Janus of only 30%. You have to look at underlying securities. you must invest in tech funds that are growing in demand especially into cloud services which are disruptive in nature (such as tesla talking about autonomous driving, producing cheaper batteries) and not those into boring old apple, alibaba shares...
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If so sure will up, one should go buy the software and tech stock instead right? UT higher sales charges and management fee, also not 100% into the growth equity you mentioned
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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Nov 21 2020, 09:13 AM)
If so sure will up, one should go buy the software and tech stock instead right? UT higher sales charges and management fee, also not 100% into the growth equity you mentioned
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Well that's an alternative for you but which foreign broker u use can easily allow u to deposit your money without charging remittance, handling or conversion fee? Have you taken those cost into consideration? some brokers even charge monthly inactivity fee. It depends on your preferences. for me i prefer diversification and I dont mind paying for convenience. Of course much better option is to buy foreign ETF but we dun get to buy directly here in Malaysia
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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 08:58 AM)
Let's see which fund performs better incoming year but i am very sure Allianz Intelligence Fund returns will surpass Janus Technology Fund. You can check asset under both fund managers Allianz EURO2268billion vs Janus of USD374billion. ....................
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hmm.gif if to be based on asset size.....

The six largest fund houses by assets under management (AUM) as at end-2017 were
Public Mutual Bhd (RM81.44 billion),
CIMB-Principal Asset Management Bhd (RM74 billion),
Affin Hwang Asset Management Bhd (RM55.1 billion),
RHB Asset Management Bhd (RM47.37 billion),
Eastspring Investments Bhd (RM39.8 billion) and
AmInvest (RM36.1 billion), the asset management arm of AmBank Group.

PM is "the best" thumbsup.gif

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...s%20Bhd%20(RM39.
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 21 2020, 01:00 AM)
Need help. I bought a fund a few days ago. Usually before this new website design, it will automatically deduct from my FSM cash account (it will say as cheque payment--don't know why FSM use such term).

However, noticed that till date, it is still pending for payment and choice of payment is only fpx online or upload deposit slip. I tried paying with the fpx online just now but decided to cancel it halfway as was wondering if there would be double payment as don't understand why they are not deducting from my cash account as per previously before this stupid new website. Now, its not  letting me pay using fpx online anymore (as I cancelled the earlier one) and I'm supposed to mail proof of payment to them and then do a stupid upload or mail them proof of payment when pay. Guess they are expecting me to go to my bank account and do payment from there bangwall.gif  Really mad as I got a good price for the fund a few days ago. Most likely will just cancel the order. Really dislike this stupid new website design.

1) So question is how do we get FSM to use our cash account for payment next time I want to buy?

2) Also, will I still get the price based on date of order if I make payment today as it has been a few working days already or will it be base on the working day that I made payment which will then be on Monday?
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you can
1. select cash account before buy
2. T+3 (depend on fund). On last day of 3 day, based on my observation
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 21 2020, 09:19 AM)
hmm.gif  if to be based on asset size.....

The six largest fund houses by assets under management (AUM) as at end-2017 were
Public Mutual Bhd (RM81.44 billion),
CIMB-Principal Asset Management Bhd (RM74 billion),
Affin Hwang Asset Management Bhd (RM55.1 billion),
RHB Asset Management Bhd (RM47.37 billion),
Eastspring Investments Bhd (RM39.8 billion) and
AmInvest (RM36.1 billion), the asset management arm of AmBank Group.

PM is "the best"  :thumbsup:

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...s%20Bhd%20(RM39.
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hahs ok. like i say let see which tech fund perform better TA Global Technology Fund or RHB Artificial Intelligence Fund.

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QUOTE(ky33li @ Nov 21 2020, 09:30 AM)
hahs ok. like i say let see which tech fund perform better TA Global Technology Fund or RHB Artificial Intelligence Fund.
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yes...like posted by t231h.....the annualised returns will be good for years to comes


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