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post Mar 17 2017, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 17 2017, 04:54 PM)
actually that graph is drawn really well. if i am back in the form six days that deserve full marks.
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55555 not sure if that was a compliment or a patronizing subtle insult. either way thank you!
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post Mar 17 2017, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:32 PM)
The problem is if aunty n uncle can't see office like PM, they won't feel secure. Is there any possible that FSM will open a branch at EM ?
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yes. there's one slated to be opened either this year or the next. I was told by fsm staff
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post Mar 17 2017, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Steven7 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:02 PM)
That ninja trick..is very tedious. Thanks for the education, won't gonna try it tho.

Thanks for the comprehensive list and justifications, do you think its a good time to buy in on those funds right now? BTW how often do you switch funds or what scenario would make you switch? I am asking this because of the associated switching fee and I think it would accumulate to quite some amount.
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Esther bond anytime is fine to buy, it's VERY stable tongue.gif
In hindsight, 6 months ago was the best time to buy, so I won't put all the funds in at one time now. Maybe set a RSP to put in slowly for the equity funds; in the meantime you can just keep the funds in CMF, it earns about 3.3% interest per annum. Some would argue REITs fund is good too; and india...

In terms of composition you can take a look at FSM's recommended portfolio

I don't switch regularly. I'm the type who just park there and unless the fund really underperform against its peers otherwise I'd just top up accordingly to meet my desired portfolio allocation. I do try to use credit ninja trick, but the credit just stays there and I hardly utilise them.

Unless if you keep switching; otherwise the sales charge of every dollar you invest in FSM MY shd hardly exceed 2%; with the assumption that you have some bond fund exposure and sometimes your purchase coincide with sales charge discount and you manage to get some tier discount knowing how much you invest in FSM SG brows.gif
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post Mar 17 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Mar 17 2017, 06:20 PM)
Wa, bilingual sessions some more drool.gif
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Oh ya hor, you read chinese; but i find mandarin articles about investment very hard to digest, when I try to read those on FSM SG or FSM HK; can go nuts
And I actually had 11 years of mandarin education sweat.gif

QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:21 PM)
My portfolio laggard is Kenanga Asia Pacific Total Return Fund. IRR is 4.4% since 2015. ROI is 8.6%

Thinking out selling it off. hmm.gif
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Yeah, this fund pale in comparison of its peers

QUOTE(ironman16 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:32 PM)
The problem is if aunty n uncle can't see office like PM, they won't feel secure. Is there any possible that FSM will open a branch at EM ?
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Actually there's a lot of potential for those IFA (independent financial advisors) as well; untapped market compared to klang valley. And when your competitor is PM, easy peasy la; Just need to deal with AMLA requirements carefully whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 17 2017, 06:02 PM)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ia-Pacific-8124

Looks like no one posted this yet? The East Msians, please go and attend n bring your auntie and uncles also; promote to them so they would switch from Public Mutual to FSM  cool2.gif
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diew. I'm working on Saturday lah! fsm why you always have seminars in kuching on Saturday??
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post Mar 17 2017, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 17 2017, 06:56 PM)
diew. I'm working on Saturday lah! fsm why you always have seminars in kuching on Saturday??
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They have seminars everywhere on Saturday, not just Kuching.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 17 2017, 07:02 PM)
They have seminars everywhere on Saturday, not just Kuching.
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oh well. work comes first. topics covered are for the newbs
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 17 2017, 06:55 PM)
Oh ya hor, you read chinese; but i find mandarin articles about investment very hard to digest, when I try to read those on FSM SG or FSM HK; can go nuts
And I actually had 11 years of mandarin education  sweat.gif
Yeah, this fund pale in comparison of its peers
Actually there's a lot of potential for those IFA (independent financial advisors) as well; untapped market compared to klang valley. And when your competitor is PM, easy peasy la; Just need to deal with AMLA requirements carefully  whistling.gif
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Is just like u read financial reports in Chinese, we are not native enough to read professional stuff like we used to be expose in English laugh.gif

When I follow financial market news, in Chinese, will be a nightmare, but trying to cope and improve Chinese proficiency in professional field smile.gif
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QUOTE(Steven7 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:02 PM)
That ninja trick..is very tedious. Thanks for the education, won't gonna try it tho.

Thanks for the comprehensive list and justifications, do you think its a good time to buy in on those funds right now? BTW how often do you switch funds or what scenario would make you switch? I am asking this because of the associated switching fee and I think it would accumulate to quite some amount.
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The ninja trick, yes, is slow so can't go and dig the well when thirsty. Must earn some credits and keep it for urgent use. For example, on the 16 March when it is booming, consider switching some equity to bond, earn the credit and keep. When other times seeing red, consider going in.

That's the idea mentioned by our shark trainer. I supposed. wink.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 17 2017, 06:21 PM)
My portfolio laggard is Kenanga Asia Pacific Total Return Fund. IRR is 4.4% since 2015. ROI is 8.6%

Thinking out selling it off. hmm.gif
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The fund price update is late. So have to add 1% or so to be accurate.
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post Mar 17 2017, 07:27 PM

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Finally my FSM funds beat my Amanah Saham fixed price in less than a year rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif ~6 months Hopefully overall total can go to 10%.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 17 2017, 07:27 PM)
Finally my FSM funds beat my Amanah Saham fixed price in less than a year rclxm9.gif  thumbup.gif  ~6 months Hopefully overall total can go to 10%.
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Overall return ? Wah congrates bro...
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 17 2017, 07:25 PM)
The fund price update is late. So have to add 1% or so to be accurate.
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Those are updated figure with yesterday NAV.
I got the latest NAV from Kenanga site.

This post has been edited by David83: Mar 17 2017, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 17 2017, 07:29 PM)
Overall return ? Wah congrates bro...
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For now 6.20%. Jangan ada correction sudah... Let it run biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 17 2017, 02:47 PM)
my Manulife India returns have hit 21%. part of me is saying leave it there whilst another says cash it. oh dear Lord
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 17 2017, 02:48 PM)
If 20% I cabut liao.

KGF waiting for 15%, Cimb also 15%, India 20%, Quantum 18% TA Global Tech 18%
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Question is why do you want to sell? Is there anymore upside in that market? Do you foresee it to come crashing down? ROI is just a number; a rather poor indication of performance if you ask me. That's why IRR is more superior for comparison

I have many funds with >20% ROI but that's because I've held them for >1 year. If I sell them, what should I buy? If the potential is there like ponzi 1.0, instead of selling, you should be looking to buy more
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 17 2017, 07:30 PM)
Question is why do you want to sell? Is there anymore upside in that market? Do you foresee it to come crashing down? ROI is just a number; a rather poor indication of performance if you ask me. That's why IRR is more superior for comparison

I have many funds with >20% ROI but that's because I've held them for >1 year. If I sell them, what should I buy? If the potential is there like ponzi 1.0, instead of selling, you should be looking to buy more
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Buy more when it's going up and up? What logic is that? Please explain...

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post Mar 17 2017, 07:35 PM

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Well, there's another strategy.
Sell them off (cash out); wait for deep correction, buy them back again.

In my portfolo, I got 3 funds with ROI > 30%

This post has been edited by David83: Mar 17 2017, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 17 2017, 07:35 PM)
Well, there's another strategy.
Sell them off (cash out); wait for deep correction, buy them back again.

In my portfolo, I got 3 funds with ROI > 30%
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 17 2017, 07:27 PM)
Finally my FSM funds beat my Amanah Saham fixed price in less than a year rclxm9.gif  thumbup.gif  ~6 months Hopefully overall total can go to 10%.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 17 2017, 07:30 PM)
For now 6.20%. Jangan ada correction sudah... Let it run  biggrin.gif
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have to remember though, this 6.2% may drop to example 3% after a year. fixed price on the other hand, will still get the 6%.
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Mar 17 2017, 07:39 PM)
have to remember though, this 6.2% may drop to example 3% after a year. fixed price on the other hand, will still get the 6%.
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That's why I said please no correction. Let it run until 10-12% sweat.gif

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