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voyage23
post Oct 23 2018, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 23 2018, 09:23 PM)

I just recheck chart of 3 IDS fund in FSM.
they never back to peak. and what makes you think they can be better than KGF and other small cap fund?
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They never, or they have not? What time frame are you giving them? I suggest you go play around with the Chart Centre and include those small-cap funds from CIMB and Eastspring then you will get what I mean.

When a fund manager chooses a riskier stock, of course it will go down more during downtime. As you can see ALL small cap funds went down. But just in that short period of bull run somewhere in July/Aug, you can see IDS/IDE clawed back a lot of their losses and regained top position.

What do you make of that?
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post Oct 23 2018, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Oct 23 2018, 09:29 PM)
Wow, this is some pretty strong statement. I find it quite insulting to the fund manager who has shown some pretty decent results in the small-cap space in the last 6 months.

Anyway I did mention that I hold IDS and I am planning to top up. If you did not buy it during their peak you are unlikely to be affected that much. My only mistake was not taking profit when it went on a bull run.
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Oct 23 2018, 09:33 PM)
They never, or they have not? What time frame are you giving them? I suggest you go play around with the Chart Centre and include those small-cap funds from CIMB and Eastspring then you will get what I mean.

When a fund manager chooses a riskier stock, of course it will go down more during downtime. As you can see ALL small cap funds went down. But just in that short period of bull run somewhere in July/Aug, you can see IDS/IDE clawed back a lot of their losses and regained top position.

What do you make of that?
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Well. you already have your answer.
Go ahead.
All the best.

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post Oct 23 2018, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Oct 23 2018, 07:13 PM)
I hope this doesn't continue until 2020. Hope the Democrats win big in the Nov midterms and impeach trump
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coincidentally, they also came out with an article on this subject today...

US Mid-Term Election: The Likely Outcomes
October 23, 2018
We often get asked what different election results might mean for policy and investment outlook.
To answer that, we’ll examine what the possible outcomes are and the potential market impacts of a Democratic or Republican win in this write-up.
Author : Sherman Tam Cheng Wei
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...Outcomes--10297

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post Oct 24 2018, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 24 2018, 08:59 AM)
Looks like the market will further bottom in coming days . Ramjade prophecy is real.
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missing time, time frame & severity.....

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post Oct 24 2018, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 24 2018, 08:59 AM)
Looks like the market will further bottom in coming days . Ramjade prophecy is real.
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any news?

seems ok only..
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post Oct 24 2018, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 24 2018, 08:59 AM)
Looks like the market will further bottom in coming days . Ramjade prophecy is real.
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I think support for DJIA is 25000. If it can break that, except further drop.

Of course, one must be prepare to act and buy if think is cheap enough. For me I haven't utilise my PRS allowance for the year so definitely looking to scoop up if big sell down.

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 24 2018, 09:32 AM)
any news?

seems ok only..
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Ok cause DJIA, s&p500 rebounded partially.
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post Oct 24 2018, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 24 2018, 09:02 AM)
missing time, time frame & severity.....
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 24 2018, 09:47 AM)
I think support for DJIA is 25000. If it can break that,  except further drop.

Of course,  one must be prepare to act and buy if think is cheap enough. For me I haven't utilise my PRS allowance for the year so definitely looking to scoop up if big sell down.
Ok cause DJIA, s&p500 rebounded partially.
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Agreed: Missing timeframe.

Anyone can comment on the severity for a mkt like this, if this happens, if that happens, if breaks 25000... etc,... I see this everyday in my Inbox sent to me by NABTrade.

I have a term now: Index Traps. The indices go up a bit,... people start fearing they might miss the boat. Many jumped in,... then two days later they drop again,...careful bros and sis,...

We have Value Traps, Yield Traps and Growth Traps. This time round,... we have Index Traps !!! The indices are luring us into the snake holes....
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post Oct 24 2018, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 24 2018, 11:23 AM)
Agreed: Missing timeframe.

Anyone can comment on the severity for a mkt like this, if this happens, if that happens, if breaks 25000... etc,... I see this everyday in my Inbox sent to me by NABTrade.

I have a term now: Index Traps. The indices go up a bit,... people start fearing they might miss the boat. Many jumped in,... then two days later they drop again,...careful bros and sis,...

We have Value Traps, Yield Traps and Growth Traps. This time round,... we have Index Traps !!! The indices are luring us into the snake holes....
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Well when you have Rm3k waiting to deploy and you can only wait until end of the year, your time is running out. sad.gif

Well how many people bother about snake holes or what ever trap when they decide to chase higher.
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post Oct 24 2018, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 24 2018, 11:23 AM)
Agreed: Missing timeframe.

Anyone can comment on the severity for a mkt like this, if this happens, if that happens, if breaks 25000... etc,... I see this everyday in my Inbox sent to me by NABTrade.

I have a term now: Index Traps. The indices go up a bit,... people start fearing they might miss the boat. Many jumped in,... then two days later they drop again,...careful bros and sis,...

We have Value Traps, Yield Traps and Growth Traps. This time round,... we have Index Traps !!! The indices are luring us into the snake holes....
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haha.... yea.....

the breaching point also fluctuate all the time.

breach this breach that lol. all give space to those paper kencing all the way.
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post Oct 24 2018, 10:27 PM

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found this interesting article about
12 reasons why there’ll be another financial crash, &
12 reasons why there won't

https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/topstories/...tanntp#image=16

both have its own merits.
have amusement when reading them for some are in our minds too.
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post Oct 24 2018, 10:58 PM

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I too found an interesting data chart....

some may look at the data from the BLUE and RED columns to make decision

some may look at the data from the BLUE and GREEN columns to make decision

i guess it does not matters which colors are used.......for it is your own decisions and your own money.....
which one will be correct?....only historical data from the action taken will determine which one is correct. innocent.gif devil.gif

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post Oct 24 2018, 11:16 PM

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someone or some groups are really not happy the ways the happenings are going on.....

Explosive device found near home of billionaire investor George Soros
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/22/us/suspi...oros/index.html

The Secret Service says "potential explosive devices" were mailed to Hillary Clinton's home in New York and Barack Obama's home in Washington, DC.
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/...ages/index.html

depending on which idealogies.....some may want the current crisis to get worst or get better.....




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post Oct 25 2018, 06:24 AM

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Market rout sends the Dow and S&P 500 into the red for the year

URL: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sp-trades-lo...-140722413.html

Stock Rout Erases 2018 Gains for S&P, Dow Indexes: Markets Wrap

URL: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...nd=premium-asia

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post Oct 25 2018, 07:27 AM

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here we go again. ... this Oct so far lulz.

2 times slide. but will trigger or not not sure. but in kopitiam start hear those aunty noises... so haha.
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post Oct 25 2018, 07:31 AM

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Kiss goodbye to 2018 gain!
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post Oct 25 2018, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 25 2018, 07:31 AM)
Kiss goodbye to 2018 gain!
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not yet 23k lol


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post Oct 25 2018, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 25 2018, 07:47 AM)
not yet 23k lol
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My US portfolio is not high!
Asia already got beaten!
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post Oct 25 2018, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 25 2018, 07:31 AM)
Kiss goodbye to 2018 gain!
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You probably mean kiss goodbye 2017-2018 gain... smile.gif
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post Oct 25 2018, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(ROSS_Solar @ Oct 25 2018, 08:22 AM)
You probably mean kiss goodbye 2017-2018 gain... smile.gif
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2018 gain. Not yet 2017.Wish me luck that market decide to wipe off 2017 gain as well. That will be interesting.
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post Oct 25 2018, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 25 2018, 07:49 AM)
My US portfolio is not high!
Asia already got beaten!
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thank God I cabut.... fuhhh.

today Asia Pacific and GC sure react 99

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