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post Jul 17 2025, 03:38 PM

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9800X3D owner what is your idle temp ? Mine is at like 50-55C with Corsair Nautilus 360 with room temperature at 31-32c with fan. Gaming time the temp also will be same as idle. Is it normal for Malaysia temperature ?

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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jul 17 2025, 03:38 PM)
9800X3D owner what is your idle temp ? Mine is at like 50-55C with Corsair Nautilus 360 with room temperature at 31-32c with fan. Gaming time the temp also will be same as idle. Is it normal for Malaysia temperature ?
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wahhh your room temp 31-32°C with fan???
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post Jul 18 2025, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 18 2025, 09:14 AM)
wahhh your room temp 31-32°C with fan???
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Can't be help when the place I stay is a hot area and not much of an airflow.
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post Jul 19 2025, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jul 17 2025, 03:38 PM)
9800X3D owner what is your idle temp ? Mine is at like 50-55C with Corsair Nautilus 360 with room temperature at 31-32c with fan. Gaming time the temp also will be same as idle. Is it normal for Malaysia temperature ?
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My hall temp goes up to 34C.
Using a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE with Thermalright TF7 paste. Idles between 47-57C.

What thermal paste did you use?
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post Jul 19 2025, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Jul 19 2025, 05:16 PM)
My hall temp goes up to 34C.
Using a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE with Thermalright TF7 paste. Idles between 47-57C.

What thermal paste did you use?
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The paste that comes with the cooler.
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post Jul 19 2025, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jul 19 2025, 05:46 PM)
The paste that comes with the cooler.
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Then try Thermal Grizzly Extreme like post in the previous page...
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post Jul 21 2025, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Jul 19 2025, 06:49 PM)
Then try Thermal Grizzly Extreme like post in the previous page...
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Be careful as many TG pastes series are made for performance not durability for long term usage. If dont want to keep taking out cooler every year to replace TP due to pump out, go with TG Duronaut which is for day to day use.
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post Jul 21 2025, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jul 17 2025, 03:38 PM)
9800X3D owner what is your idle temp ? Mine is at like 50-55C with Corsair Nautilus 360 with room temperature at 31-32c with fan. Gaming time the temp also will be same as idle. Is it normal for Malaysia temperature ?
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on noctua d-15 ; room temp ard 30c... idle ard 45ish
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post Jul 21 2025, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 21 2025, 11:23 AM)
Be careful as many TG pastes series are made for performance not durability for long term usage. If dont want to keep taking out cooler every year to replace TP due to pump out, go with TG Duronaut which is for day to day use.
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Interesting, wasn't aware of this for TG Extreme.
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post Jul 21 2025, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Jul 21 2025, 08:42 PM)
Interesting, wasn't aware of this for TG Extreme.
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Theres reddit discussions apparently
https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comme...e_after_1_year/

And I guess its mainly the reason for Duronaut existence.
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post Jul 22 2025, 10:52 PM

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Do you check the package temps or the Core temps ?
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post Aug 12 2025, 10:49 AM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/339805/amd-ryze...from-the-market

Apparently 5700X3D have been EOL ady. Since 5800X3D have been constantly out of stock for pretty much 2025, Im wondering if the bigger bro CPU was actually EOL earlier beforehand...

Looks like the end for AM4. Still not betting against them slicing & dicing into more 'new' skus.
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9800X3D and 7800X3D price gap still quite huge, is this just our currency or dealership margins?

based on idealtech's latest price list -
9800X3D - 2399
7800X3D - 1429

almost 1k difference. I'm curious because I saw from other forums, in other countries like UK the difference sometimes is just 30 GBP... so it makes more sense to go with 9800X3D

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post Aug 14 2025, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 14 2025, 05:36 PM)
9800X3D and 7800X3D price gap still quite huge, is this just our currency or dealership margins?

based on idealtech's latest price list -
9800X3D - 2399
7800X3D - 1429

almost 1k difference. I'm curious because I saw from other forums, in other countries like UK the difference sometimes is just 30 GBP... so it makes more sense to go with 9800X3D
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LOL The difference is not as apparent in Western nations bcoz their controlled by MSRP if bought from official retail. Here theres no MSRP so distros & reseller knows king CPU is hot stuff so if you want the best you gotta pay their extortion prices. 7800x3d is old stuff and typically Asian prefer the newest so it doesnt sell as well but theres the bargain if you dont mind buying older gen parts.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 14 2025, 07:52 PM)
LOL The difference is not as apparent in Western nations bcoz their controlled by MSRP if bought from official retail. Here theres no MSRP so distros & reseller knows king CPU is hot stuff so if you want the best you gotta pay their extortion prices. 7800x3d is old stuff and typically Asian prefer the newest so it doesnt sell as well but theres the bargain if you dont mind buying older gen parts.
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Sucks.... but oh well 7800X3D is still pretty decent on a budget
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post Aug 17 2025, 07:19 AM

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senseis, i saw on gamers nexus they said for 9800x3d, the rate of failure for the cpu was rather high for asrock mobos, next was asus.

gigabyte was fewest cases of this..

also they said the x570 mobos were the most affected



also gigabyte x570 gaming x wifi got the memory stability pass for the ddr5

is this the model to get? or skip altogether?







also in other news, asus had vulnerability issues (notably their crappy armory crate which YOU SHOULD DISABLE in bios and uninstall from pc). gigabyte also got reported having some vulnerabilities for motherboard as well.





another reason to boycott asus. they gave consumers the middle finger, we send one right back in numbers rolleyes.gif





gigabyte issue was for intel old models. newer mobos not affected.


so is this model good or recommend something else?

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post Aug 17 2025, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 17 2025, 07:19 AM)
senseis, i saw on gamers nexus they said for 9800x3d, the rate of failure for the cpu was rather high for asrock mobos, next was asus.

gigabyte was fewest cases of this..

also they said the x570 mobos were the most affected
also gigabyte x570 gaming x wifi got the memory stability pass for the ddr5

is this the model to get? or skip altogether?

gigabyte issue was for intel old models. newer mobos not affected.
so is this model good or recommend something else?
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x570 is for AM4, noting to do with 9800x3d (AM5)

For AM5 just get any MSI, my reco B650M Gaming PLUS Wifi for all rounder performance, features & pricing

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post Aug 17 2025, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 17 2025, 07:19 AM)
senseis, i saw on gamers nexus they said for 9800x3d, the rate of failure for the cpu was rather high for asrock mobos, next was asus.

gigabyte was fewest cases of this..

also they said the x570 mobos were the most affected
also gigabyte x570 gaming x wifi got the memory stability pass for the ddr5

is this the model to get? or skip altogether?


also in other news, asus had vulnerability issues (notably their crappy armory crate which YOU SHOULD DISABLE in bios and uninstall from pc). gigabyte also got reported having some vulnerabilities for motherboard as well.

another reason to boycott asus. they gave consumers the middle finger, we send one right back in numbers  rolleyes.gif



gigabyte issue was for intel old models. newer mobos not affected.
so is this model good or recommend something else?
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Asus also disables some features for lower end boards. Only top end levels gets all the features. Those settings are not even Asus exclusive. I'll be looking at MSI as well. Getting good and affordable ITX board is challenging.

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post Aug 18 2025, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 17 2025, 01:27 PM)
Asus also disables some features for lower end boards. Only top end levels gets all the features. Those settings are not even Asus exclusive. I'll be looking at MSI as well. Getting good and affordable ITX board is challenging.
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i narrowed it down to these 2 models

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/comments/1...ahawk_wifi_and/


tomahawk and the aorus elite.

but the tomahawk is the most nice one on everything except the audio sweat.gif

the audio thing i saw in a different reddit post, actually it was fine. not sure about their networking drives sweat.gif


the best thing about the msi is how they manage the pcie lanes which is far better than what the other brands did. also this board has ease of use for installers, like button to remove graphic card, or the m2 storage, the little things.


Anyway i changed my ram and reset windows 11. Now testing if will crash or not. if crash only then i will upgrade, if not i wont sweat.gif

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post Aug 21 2025, 02:29 PM

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Value for money B650m MSI gaming Plus wifi mobos will end soon. Whoever wanting to build AM5 rig better do so now before B650 ups in pricing.
https://www.techpowerup.com/340133/amd-b650...rry-the-segment

B850 mobos are quite a bit pricier and doubtful they will reduce anytime soon.

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