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post Dec 11 2024, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 11 2024, 01:51 AM)
This ASRock model is not in Malaysia
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sadly. then bro got not much choices for cheap AM5.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 9 2024, 11:33 PM)
That is what I am concern , motherboard are too expensive now.AM4 is outdated too.
Which of suggestion for brand and model for AM5 ? exclude MSI ,
Asrock and Gigabyte cheaper ?
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That MSI B650M Gaming WiFi is still fine for 9600X / 9700X. wink.gif
Don't worry too much for 65W parts.

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post Dec 12 2024, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 11 2024, 12:51 AM)
This ASRock model is not in Malaysia
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*Shockers* The best of cheap budget mobos able to handle the full range of Ryzens and its not in our market ?!
https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-b650-motherboards/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock...est-good-enough

What are we? Too filthy rich to even consider this cheap humble but mighty board that can punch above its price?

At least still got affordable Pro-RS here but I imagine the cheaper HDV mobo will make AM5 systems more reasonably priced here
https://shopee.com.my/product/59277182/24015679845

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post Dec 12 2024, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 12 2024, 08:27 AM)
That MSI B650M Gaming WiFi is still fine for 9600X / 9700X.  wink.gif
Don't worry too much for 65W parts.
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Its VRM will be limited if next time want to upgrade with 120W CPUS like X3Ds tho.
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:48 AM

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Here is a crazy detailed masterlist of AM5 mobos for those who wants to go indepth into exactly what features & functions they want
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQH...it?usp=drivesdk
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post Dec 12 2024, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 12 2024, 09:32 AM)
*Shockers* The best of cheap budget mobos able to handle the full range of Ryzens and its not in our market ?!
https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-b650-motherboards/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock...est-good-enough

What are we? Too filthy rich to even consider this cheap humble but mighty board that can punch above its price?

At least still got affordable Pro-RS here but I imagine the cheaper HDV mobo will make AM5 systems more reasonably priced here
https://shopee.com.my/product/59277182/24015679845
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disti sleeping maybe. a lot of good models are also not available here. .
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 12 2024, 08:43 AM)
Its VRM will be limited if next time want to upgrade with 120W CPUS like X3Ds tho.
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That is the price to pay. For those having fund for more expensive CPU should not have concern for paying extra RM200 more for better board. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 12 2024, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 12 2024, 09:49 AM)
That is the price to pay. For those having fund for more expensive CPU should not have concern for paying extra RM200 more for better board.  biggrin.gif
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Need to balance the build. If intend to upgrade CPU later in future, for now maybe need to sacrifice CPU abit by going lower 7500F/7600 to get a better mobo that can support future X3D CPUS.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 12 2024, 08:32 AM)
*Shockers* The best of cheap budget mobos able to handle the full range of Ryzens and its not in our market ?!
https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-b650-motherboards/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock...est-good-enough

What are we? Too filthy rich to even consider this cheap humble but mighty board that can punch above its price?

At least still got affordable Pro-RS here but I imagine the cheaper HDV mobo will make AM5 systems more reasonably priced here
https://shopee.com.my/product/59277182/24015679845
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Yup sad right?

That time I was handling ASRock and really wanted to bring that model in but nope, due to market conditions and all that model was ignored in favor of other models.
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Dec 12 2024, 09:39 AM)
disti sleeping maybe. a lot of good models are also not available here. .
I can assure you disti not sleeping, also it's not about positive reviews or what.

In the end disti has final say which model they think is the one that can sell better.
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post Dec 13 2024, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 12 2024, 10:50 PM)
Yup sad right?

That time I was handling ASRock and really wanted to bring that model in but nope, due to market conditions and all that model was ignored in favor of other models.
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Asrock distro doing a Jensen? Only 1 decent budget board (ProRS) while loading up with mid-high tiers (lightning, riptide, nova, taichi) forcing people to pay more that they really need if they want decent mobo that can support X3D. I think even steel legend oso not widely sold (upwards of RM 1k still not budget level lor).

Its these kinda decisions that make AM5 still a T15 build compare to Intel/ AM4.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 13 2024, 12:50 AM)
Asrock distro doing a Jensen? Only 1 decent budget board (ProRS) while loading up with mid-high tiers (lightning, riptide, nova, taichi) forcing people to pay more that they really need if they want decent mobo that can support X3D. I think even steel legend oso not widely sold (upwards of RM 1k still not budget level lor).

Its these kinda decisions that make AM5 still a T15 build compare to Intel/ AM4.
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Don't know. I left more than a year ago.

Had some good ones, had many nonsense as well.

It's not as simple as one thinks.
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post Dec 13 2024, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 12 2024, 11:52 PM)
I can assure you disti not sleeping, also it's not about positive reviews or what.

In the end disti has final say which model they think is the one that can sell better.
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If you can shed more light on how do they do the selection.. i'm very curious.. for example, they brought in b650m pro rs wifi but skipped wifi model on the b650 pro rs. Taichi lite is not in sight.. and largely focus on Steel Legens and PG Riptide.

I'm rocking the b650 pro rs with LAN, but it will be good to have WiFi & bluetooth.
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Dec 13 2024, 08:46 AM)
If you can shed more light on how do they do the selection.. i'm very curious.. for example, they brought in b650m pro rs wifi but skipped wifi model on the b650 pro rs. Taichi lite is not in sight.. and largely focus on Steel Legens and PG Riptide.

I'm rocking the b650 pro rs with LAN, but it will be good to have WiFi & bluetooth.
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Get AX210 separately. The RZ608/RZ616 has worse speed albeit the handshake is faster. wink.gif
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post Dec 13 2024, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Dec 13 2024, 10:25 AM)
Get AX210 separately. The RZ608/RZ616 has worse speed albeit the handshake is faster.  wink.gif
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that's what i did.. that pretty much negates the good price i paid for the mobo, additional RM100.. haha.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 13 2024, 01:22 AM)
Don't know. I left more than a year ago.

Had some good ones, had many nonsense as well.

It's not as simple as one thinks.
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I would say Asrock in AM4 era had some shit ones but so far in AM5 era most of their mobos are pretty solid (except the bare most cheapest of all A620) the problem is decent budget boards arent coming while spamming the more expensive ones. Its what I see available in the market.
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Dec 13 2024, 08:46 AM)
If you can shed more light on how do they do the selection.. i'm very curious.. for example, they brought in b650m pro rs wifi but skipped wifi model on the b650 pro rs. Taichi lite is not in sight.. and largely focus on Steel Legens and PG Riptide.

I'm rocking the b650 pro rs with LAN, but it will be good to have WiFi & bluetooth.
Factor in
- previous generation stock and pricing
- new generation pricing
- competitor model pricing

You think - review good.

Disti think - this one cheaper, can push better. That one similar price to this one, not our direction.

Stuff like that.
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post Dec 15 2024, 11:02 AM

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Been googling around on 4k resolution gaming, will upgrading from 5900X to 9800X3D/9900X3D will provide any increment?
Read that the 1% low has a good gained and eliminate alot of micro stuttering.

Else will just stick to upgrading GPU for now until AM6 arrive.
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Dec 15 2024, 11:02 AM)
Been googling around on 4k resolution gaming, will upgrading from 5900X to 9800X3D/9900X3D will provide any increment?
Read that the 1% low has a good gained and eliminate alot of micro stuttering.

Else will just stick to upgrading GPU for now until AM6 arrive.
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3080 10GB no longer sufficient for 4k gaming. Upgrade the GPU first.
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post Dec 15 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Dec 15 2024, 11:02 AM)
Been googling around on 4k resolution gaming, will upgrading from 5900X to 9800X3D/9900X3D will provide any increment?
Read that the 1% low has a good gained and eliminate alot of micro stuttering.

Else will just stick to upgrading GPU for now until AM6 arrive.
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Not unless you have 4090 / upcoming 5090. At 4K its more GPU dependent than CPU. A better CPU will help in 1% lows but not overall FPS if the GPU is ady limited.

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