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post Aug 9 2024, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 9 2024, 09:40 AM)
9600X Efficiency productivity is also poor, made worse when compared its cost to others  doh.gif
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7700 is a better pick if don't mind spending little bit more. wink.gif
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7800x3D local market prices lowest RM1.6k?
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post Aug 9 2024, 10:44 AM

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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/SMMC3RqvHr...mibextid=qi2Omg


official comes

but

KitGuru says 9600X and 9700X okay leh sweat.gif

and from what i know is the AGESA things buat hal kot sweat.gif
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SkatterBencher on 9700X

but anyway I'll see whats B850 mobo with new AGESA code offers the performance as well

but if urgent to build can opt for the 7000 series

-ahem2- and my 2 cents

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 9 2024, 11:44 AM)
SkatterBencher on 9700X

but anyway I'll see whats B850 mobo with new AGESA code offers the performance as well

but if urgent to build can opt for the 7000 series

-ahem2- and my 2 cents

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this guy is underrated. very technical in-depth for ryzen OC.
for most people, recommend to settle with PBO + CO only to get the best out of the chip.
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post Aug 9 2024, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 9 2024, 10:44 AM)
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/SMMC3RqvHr...mibextid=qi2Omg
official comes

but

KitGuru says 9600X and 9700X okay leh sweat.gif

and from what i know is the AGESA things buat hal kot sweat.gif
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SkatterBencher on 9700X

but anyway I'll see whats B850 mobo with new AGESA code offers the performance as well

but if urgent to build can opt for the 7000 series

-ahem2- and my 2 cents

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From the overall reviewers, bench results are all over the place depending on who review. But many found it no way they could get the official AMD launch results.

Agesa might be it, might also be related to the memory incompatibility issue as some reviewers had to use lower speed RAMs just to get it working.

All in all despite Intel giving them the platter, it has been an epyc disaster for AMD.
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post Aug 10 2024, 10:19 AM

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AMD's 'Sinkclose' vulnerability affects hundreds of millions of processors, enables data theft — AMD begins patching issue in critical chip lines, more to follow

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...-more-to-follow


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post Aug 10 2024, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 10 2024, 10:19 AM)
another day, another news for x86 cpu vulnerabilities, NOICE
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post Aug 10 2024, 11:55 AM

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New AMD SinkClose flaw helps install nearly undetectable malware

Tracked as CVE-2023-31315 and rated of high severity (CVSS score: 7.5), the flaw was discovered by IOActive Enrique Nissim and Krzysztof Okupski, who named privilege elevation attack 'Sinkclose.'

The researchers report that Sinkclose has passed undetected for almost 20 years, impacting a broad range of AMD chip models.

Okupski told Wired that the only way to detect and remove malware installed using SinkClose would be to physically connect to the CPUs using a tool called a SPI Flash programmer and scan the memory for malware.

According to AMD's advisory, the following models are affected:
EPYC 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generations
EPYC Embedded 3000, 7002, 7003, and 9003, R1000, R2000, 5000, and 7000
Ryzen Embedded V1000, V2000, and V3000
Ryzen 3000, 5000, 4000, 7000, and 8000 series
Ryzen 3000 Mobile, 5000 Mobile, 4000 Mobile, and 7000 Mobile series
Ryzen Threadripper 3000 and 7000 series
AMD Threadripper PRO (Castle Peak WS SP3, Chagall WS)
AMD Athlon 3000 series Mobile (Dali, Pollock)
AMD Instinct MI300A
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/secur...ctable-malware/

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 10 2024, 10:36 AM)
another day, another news for x86 cpu vulnerabilities, NOICE
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Well, AMD is getting more popular because of Intel screwups. More people testing AMD products for security now.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Aug 10 2024, 10:36 AM)
another day, another news for x86 cpu vulnerabilities, NOICE
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X86 is like a 50 yo lock, each day there are new way to unlock it.
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Daniel Owens review suddenly put 9000series "value" in a much poorer position that many youtube reviews would like you to think



TLDR 9000series totally not worth it when comparing either X or nonX SKU 7000series.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 10 2024, 03:11 PM)
Daniel Owens review suddenly put 9000series "value" in a much poorer position that many youtube reviews would like you to think



TLDR 9000series totally not worth it when comparing either X or nonX SKU 7000series.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 8 2024, 10:56 AM)
9600X is not really hitting the point but 9700X is ok if you want an efficient productivity processor, so the targeted use case is different. wink.gif The low base clock of 7800X3D hurts a lot in multithreaded workloads, where 9700X performs well with PBO enabled.
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I did mention about this earlier, it is same conclusion. wink.gif Next you will notice 9800X3D that outperforms 7700X/7800X3D/9700 in every aspect with higher TDP. AMD is redefining the role of X3D moving forward after they "fix" the temperature reading, with full core clock at least or faster than the non-X/X.

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 10 2024, 04:45 PM)
I did mention about this earlier, it is same conclusion. wink.gif Next you will notice 9800X3D that outperforms 7700X/7800X3D/9700 in every aspect with higher TDP. AMD is redefining the role of X3D moving forward after they "fix" the temperature reading, with full core clock at least or faster than the non-X/X.
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But thats where you got it wrong. In terms of efficiency productivity then 7700 has nearly the same as 9700X in power use, in gaming, 7800X3D is better for about same price and 7700X has nearly the same performance per watt but having cheaper street prices (see my DO mindblowing video). So there isnt much justification for 9700X nor 9600X and it would seem their X3D as well. This gen is a hard pass unless AMD can reduce MSRP prices by USD $100 from launch.

Its no so much that AMD is redefining X3D, it has always been top dog segment and its been the Extreme to Intel past equivalent. However AMD has redefined their X (which previous compared to Intel Ksku) downgrading it to vs Intel nonK level except having ability to OC. That again I said makes nonX moot now unless AMD will push it down another segment, but guess what these nonX & nonK parts are at the cheaper price range so AMD is actually overpricing their CPUs vs the market segment of today (again see the DO video).

AMD took advantage of Intel bad news to overcharge their fanbase customers. So early buyers are totally waterfishes for harvest. ranting.gif
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 10 2024, 05:38 PM)
But thats where you got it wrong. In terms of efficiency productivity then 7700 has nearly the same as 9700X in power use, in gaming, 7800X3D is better for about same price and 7700X has nearly the same performance per watt but having cheaper street prices (see my DO mindblowing video). So there isnt much justification for 9700X nor 9600X and it would seem their X3D as well. This gen is a hard pass unless AMD can reduce MSRP prices by USD $100 from launch.

Its no so much that AMD is redefining X3D, it has always been top dog segment and its been the Extreme to Intel past equivalent. However AMD has redefined their X (which previous compared to Intel Ksku) downgrading it to vs Intel nonK level except having ability to OC. That again I said makes nonX moot now unless AMD will push it down another segment, but guess what these nonX & nonK parts are at the cheaper price range so AMD is actually overpricing their CPUs vs the market segment of today (again see the DO video).

AMD took advantage of Intel bad news to overcharge their fanbase customers. So early buyers are totally waterfishes for harvest. ranting.gif
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The main gain comes with video encoding & simulation, check AVX512 out.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9700x/12.html
This product is not targeting gamer, but productivity needs.

Gamer with low budget should go for 7500F.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryze...e-smt-disabled/

Looks like we have an interesting update.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 10 2024, 07:31 PM)
The main gain comes with video encoding & simulation, check AVX512 out.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9700x/12.html
This product is not targeting gamer, but productivity needs.

Gamer with low budget should go for 7500F.
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Err even with encoding it doesnt really have a significant advantage gaining only 1s over 7700X which really margin of error.

Even Techyescity which often pushes Ryzen as the better value option has came out saying 9600 & 9700 isnt suited to any one really, as other current offers can do it either better, faster, cheaper or with lower power draw.



7500F is a decent for AM5 entry level but hardly any better for gaming simply bcoz, as I pointed out in another tered, there is no way to spec in decent AM5 build at low budget.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2024, 10:25 AM)
Err even with encoding it doesnt really have a significant advantage gaining only 1s over 7700X which really margin of error.
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And just for niche video encoding? Out of the many other purposes a CPU actually does? That is just clutching at straws to justify 9000series vs 7000series.
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