so pricing is not far off from 7000 series. but knowing malaysian market, price will be higher despite being 'made in malaysia'

Kinda curious for the upcoming 9700x . 65W TDP for an 8 core, 5.5ghz is kinda bonkers. Might just upgrade from current 5600x haha

Much like Intel, AMD ryzen max turbo speed is not achieved when at baseline PBP...

Yeah most likely achieved with PBO maxed out. But even then, 5.5ghz @ ~100w is not a bad trade off imo. Anyway we’ll see in a couple of days time when the reviews are officially out

AM5 are still hotchips, defaulting to run towards 95oC thermal limit. Even if wattage is ok, the temps are not. I hope Zen5 will not have this habit seen on Zen4.

Well Zen 5 reviews are now out... and let's just say it's pretty bad

The saving grace is that it runs cooler and consumes less power, and that's about it really

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Aug 7 2024, 09:27 PM

Yeah seems like Zen 5 will be a miss for now.. unless there’s some kind of BIOS update that can magically push up the perf it doesn’t look pretty..

yeap... looks like I should just skip am5 platform all together...

great single core performance on the 9600X

Both Intel & AMD must have pakat to outdo each other in trying to disappoint the market and customers. Funnily now is the best time for AMD to make a run on Intel yet they failed once again.

OK. 7800x3d still a good buy (until 9800x3d lol).

Largely due to the 65W TDP. PBO saves it back by a lot.
As hint by AMD earlier, it is not going to beat X3D in gaming, so gamers should wait for that in next month.

The efficiency in productivity tasks is pretty, even with PBO enabled. Gonna get one.

Hard to recommend 9600X. 6 cores are not going to perform well in games in few years time. Console spec always serve as a good reference, game developers will try to optimize to that direction (8 cores). Could wait for 9600 if you really need that single threaded speed.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Aug 8 2024, 09:10 AM

If 9000X3D gonna be 3% faster but with 24% more costlier price than 7000X3D you might as well keep the current CPU!

Just about every review has the same verdict: its a flop. Plus the memory compatibility issues is prolly why its launch got delayed.

Probably won't happen this way. AMD deliberately dialed back the TDP so that X3D can perform better than X in all the possible ways with default settings. Enabling PBO will just let the normal part become as good as X3D in multithreaded workload.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Aug 8 2024, 09:16 AM

Pulling down to 65W was a bad move as it happen in some benches gotten worse result than predecessor 7700X! This is about as bad as 4060Ti vs 3060Ti level of regression.

By right it shoulda stick to 105W for X version and 65W for nonX, now if both X and nonX is 65W there is crazy overlap of their skus and nobody sane would buy the nonX (unless AMD is trying to push buyers to pay just that bit more for X, taking from Jensen 'the more you buy, the more you save' LOL).

If your buying AM5, just get 7000series as the 9000 price/performance premium just isnt worth it (and AMD is known to massive price drop soon after launch too, wait 6 months for X3D release b4 deciding).

At this point of time, I don't know how is AMD going to release non-X, maybe with lower quality binned chiplet. I still appreciate the pricing if it is on par with 7800X3D and don't think the price is going to drop, instead there will be price hike for 7800X3D.

If pricing is on par 7800X3D but loses in games & productivity & power efficiency, better faster get that CPU b4 expected price hike. Then wait for 10000series (or will be 11000?) to come out b4 upgrading. At MSRP, 9000series is a hard pass.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Aug 8 2024, 11:34 AM

9600X is not really hitting the point but 9700X is ok if you want an efficient productivity processor, so the targeted use case is different. The low base clock of 7800X3D hurts a lot in multithreaded workloads, where 9700X performs well with PBO enabled.

Makes me feel my rm800 7600 a dem good value buy, haha.

9600X Efficiency productivity is also poor, made worse when compared its cost to others


It is at least for AM5 CPUS