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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 15), Gentlebre VP-ed & Cradleton next (soon!)

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post Jan 14 2017, 11:01 AM, updated 9y ago

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Blow ha blow ha we already blow water to Version 15!! Let's continue the party! rclxm9.gif icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif

Past versions
Version 1: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3032037

Version 2: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3225126

Version 3: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3239458

Version 4: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3283839

Version 5: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3317220

Version 6: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3391692

Version 7: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3453219

Version 8: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3641781

Version 9: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3750707

Version 10:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3823684

Version 11:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3924867

Version 12:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4021066

Version 13:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4079775

Version 13A:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4114914

Eco Majestic Events in 2015
Video: One Year At Eco Majestic

Eco Majestic Show Village Launching
Video: Launch of Show Village @ Eco Majestic

Eco Majestic -Gentlebre Video (from Propcafe)
Video: Gentlebre VP

Eco Majestic Official Facebook
Official Facebook of Eco Majestic

Website
Official Website of Eco Majestic

EcoWorld Gallery at Eco Majestic
1) Waze location:
https://waze.to/lr/hw282t6hw2

2) Google location:
http://goo.gl/maps/9tFwj

3) GPS Coordinates:
N 2° 54’ 47.6" E 101° 50’ 17.8"

4) Address / Contact:
1, Lingkaran Eco Majestic, Eco Majestic, 43500 Semenyih, Selangor.
Tel: 03-8723 2255

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Hooray. continue chui shui in Version 15... rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 14 2017, 11:05 AM

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Why not support other precint? We buyer are on the same boat against the developer IF they under deliver their housing and landscaping for several precints. If gentlebre failed, Cradleton failed, dont be naive to hope for success for coming Tenderfield?

Few months time to change "new blood"? Pasar aunty will just say "Dont be silly."


Seems that you don't quite undestand my point. It's OK.
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post Jan 14 2017, 11:16 AM

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wow so fast version 15~~~~~~~~~~ haha
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post Jan 14 2017, 11:48 AM

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after cradleton vped....it will be version 16 in no time.....

so much to 'talk' about.......
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 14 2017, 11:48 AM)
after cradleton vped....it will be version 16 in no time.....

so much to 'talk' about.......
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as everyone tok so much here, i think life and business still as usual for EW. coming soon more cui sui for EM. dont choose to protest on this 2 auspicious day.


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post Jan 14 2017, 12:02 PM

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I dun think gentlebre is failed but I will say not good enough especially we put very high expectation
In fact, buyers oredy knows arroyo garden landscaping will be greener based on both sides master plan n we oso knows arroyo garden got higher land n slope, So, the view will be much much better.
Average price for arroyo garden rm100/sf vs gentlebre rm117/sf. I think is quite fair price coz the gentlebre fencing is nicer n it launched after one yrs plus arroyo garden garden.
The only thing I m curious is how come diff road plant diff type of tree 😂😂.

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jan 14 2017, 12:02 PM)
I dun think gentlebre is failed but I will say not good enough especially we put very high expectation
In fact, buyers oredy knows arroyo garden landscaping will be greener based on both sides master plan n we oso knows arroyo garden got higher land n slope, So, the view will be much much better.
Average price for arroyo garden rm100/sf vs gentlebre rm117/sf. I think is quite fair price coz the gentlebre fencing is nicer n it launched after one yrs plus arroyo garden garden.
The only thing I m curious is how come diff road plant diff type of tree 😂😂.
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Boss, honestly speaking I would think that Cradleton would be better than SEH precint 1 but Gentlebre and Tenderfields likely will not or fairly hard to exceed SEH P3/P2. How I see SEH P3/P2 is that it is like putting the EM's Swan Lake and the gardens into it. Lol laugh.gif and that to me explains the better landscaped public area of EM compared to SEH. Anyway, for EM I tend to believe (but have to confirm upon seeing the end products) that each precints will be nicely done but the question then is how close / wide the gap between the actual vs the artist impression.

Btw, have you or other buyers lodge any complaint for any significant "mismatch" and how's the response?
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 14 2017, 12:26 PM)
Boss, honestly speaking I would think that Cradleton would be better than SEH precint 1 but Gentlebre and Tenderfields likely will not or fairly hard to exceed SEH P3/P2.  How I see SEH P3/P2 is that it is like putting the EM's Swan Lake and the gardens into it. Lol laugh.gif and that to me explains the better landscaped public area of EM compared to SEH.  Anyway, for EM I tend to believe (but have to confirm upon seeing the end products) that each precints will be nicely done but the question then is how close / wide the gap between the actual vs the artist impression.

Btw, have you or other buyers lodge any complaint for any significant "mismatch" and how's the response?
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Congrate to those who purchase the SEH P2/P3 then. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

After this how? SEH P2/P3 have no more issue then? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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overall , i only see 3000 ++ acres development here
i would say , we will be no regret in buying it
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 14 2017, 12:30 PM)
Congrate to those who purchase the SEH P2/P3 then.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

After this how? SEH P2/P3 have no more issue then?  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Haha... if based on the saying "no news is good news", judging from SEH thread, seems no issue tongue.gif but I guess now more buyers in SEH have their discussion in FB or other channel.

Suddenly remember the BBW last time talked so much about SEH/EM/SiMonyet saying ghost town lah, this lah that lah... hehe should invite him to 6c6c now and in another two to three years time. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 14 2017, 12:26 PM)
Boss, honestly speaking I would think that Cradleton would be better than SEH precint 1 but Gentlebre and Tenderfields likely will not or fairly hard to exceed SEH P3/P2.  How I see SEH P3/P2 is that it is like putting the EM's Swan Lake and the gardens into it. Lol laugh.gif and that to me explains the better landscaped public area of EM compared to SEH.  Anyway, for EM I tend to believe (but have to confirm upon seeing the end products) that each precints will be nicely done but the question then is how close / wide the gap between the actual vs the artist impression.

Btw, have you or other buyers lodge any complaint for any significant "mismatch" and how's the response?
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Actly that day I looked from outside. The cradleton quite nice lar.

So far, I dun think got buyers lodge the complain. I only voice the diff type of tree issue
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tomorrow i go em makan dumplings
wanna kepoh abit on cradelton backlane biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Jan 14 2017, 11:57 AM)
as everyone tok so much here, i think life and business still as usual for EW. coming soon more cui sui for EM. dont choose to protest on this 2 auspicious day.
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perhaps master joey yap will say bare lorong will enable feng to pass thru the house better than some toothpick trees at the rear of the house blocking the smooth passing of feng.....
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 14 2017, 01:00 PM)
perhaps master joey yap will say bare lorong will enable feng to pass thru the house better than some toothpick trees at the rear of the house blocking the smooth passing of feng.....
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Talking about toothpicks tree, as tea time discussion.
Today I saw a new launching project they really draw toothpicks trees at their grand grand grand entrance. Lol...
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 14 2017, 12:34 PM)
Haha... if based on the saying "no news is good news", judging from SEH thread, seems no issue tongue.gif  but I guess now more buyers in SEH have their discussion in FB or other channel.

Suddenly remember the BBW last time talked so much about SEH/EM/SiMonyet saying ghost town lah, this lah that lah... hehe should invite him to 6c6c now and in another two to three years time. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 14 2017, 12:34 PM)
Haha... if based on the saying "no news is good news", judging from SEH thread, seems no issue tongue.gif  but I guess now more buyers in SEH have their discussion in FB or other channel.

Suddenly remember the BBW last time talked so much about SEH/EM/SiMonyet saying ghost town lah, this lah that lah... hehe should invite him to 6c6c now and in another two to three years time. laugh.gif
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I think he's still here.
Just we don't know under which name now.
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EM SA very funny saying that owner expectation is very high. EM always forget that they are the one who set the expectations and committed to deliver.
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 14 2017, 03:58 PM)
EM SA very funny saying that owner expectation is very high. EM always forget that they are the one who set the expectations and committed to deliver.
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Why you suddenly say so?

Expected answer by the way. Cause they never show effort to deliver like I keep saying.
Nvm, later ass licker said like this already nice.

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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 14 2017, 03:58 PM)
EM SA very funny saying that owner expectation is very high. EM always forget that they are the one who set the expectations and committed to deliver.
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which SA? can give me their name?
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Wah, thread V15 d......keep it up......
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 14 2017, 04:13 PM)
which SA? can give me their name?
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what u gonna do to the SA? don't name ppl here, break ppl bowl rice meh. if higher management team then ok to name. for example. miss.E and miss.T
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 14 2017, 04:13 PM)
which SA? can give me their name?
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You just walk in and ask any SA about landscape or backlane garden. I asked twice. Their response very consistent.
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 14 2017, 04:42 PM)
You just walk in and ask any SA about landscape or backlane garden. I asked twice. Their response very consistent.
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That's so wrong if they did promised different 2-3 years ago. So wrong.
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QUOTE(shawnk @ Jan 14 2017, 04:55 PM)
That's so wrong if they did promised different 2-3 years ago. So wrong.
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So what?
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so envy to tropicana heights latest progress pic ><
good quality pic + they show everything 360degree
we EM hide everything bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 14 2017, 04:41 PM)
what u gonna do to the SA? don't name ppl here, break ppl bowl rice meh. if higher management team then ok to name. for example. miss.E and miss.T
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 14 2017, 04:42 PM)
You just walk in and ask any SA about landscape or backlane garden. I asked twice. Their response very consistent.
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wont do anything but ll very disappointed if they reply me tat way when vp very soon now
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 14 2017, 05:35 PM)
so envy to tropicana heights latest progress pic ><
good quality pic + they show everything 360degree
we EM hide everything  bangwall.gif
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EW also have 360.
Link here:-

https://m.facebook.com/EcoWorldDevelopment/...2644983/?type=3

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EW should really consider to give away awards to some 'fully supporter' here for consistently endorsing EM regardless of the outcome. Main reason is that their big efforts to maintain & promoting the branding at LYN. Not an easy job.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 14 2017, 05:48 PM)
Actually cradleton really quite nice compare with SEH P1. Gt nice fencing,guardhouse & lampost. I think backlane not so important as who want to walk at backlane to view ppl cooking meh..haha
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 14 2017, 05:11 PM)
So what?
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Well it's too late now to complain, didn't really have time to gather people's attention on this until it's too late or people just waited too long. Seeing is believing although it's just a few photos and some can still disregard it as nothing. I guess best now is sit down and relax, there won't be any last minute major changes. Just relax and enjoy CNY, get some rest and tackle this issue once it's VP.

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QUOTE(Director Xavi V @ Jan 14 2017, 06:48 PM)
EW should really consider to give away awards to some 'fully supporter' here for consistently endorsing EM regardless of the outcome. Main reason is that their big efforts to maintain & promoting the branding at LYN. Not an easy job.
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Everybody doing things for reasons.
You thought they are superheroes doing vigilance?

We have nothing to hide, our agenda is clear.
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 14 2017, 05:35 PM)
so envy to tropicana heights latest progress pic ><
good quality pic + they show everything 360degree
we EM hide everything  bangwall.gif
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Gentlebre is not so bad and having nice fencing & guardhouse. Just Gentlebre dun have so many lake as SEH P3 and those land surrounding the lake is not belong to public ppl only. Of coz if ppl want compare it v SEH P3..SEH P3 is more nice in term of more lake landscaping and higher land.
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Jan 14 2017, 07:11 PM)
Gentlebre is not so bad and having nice fencing & guardhouse. Just Gentlebre dun have so many lake as SEH P3 and those land surrounding the lake is not belong to public ppl only. Of coz if ppl want compare it v SEH P3..SEH P3 is more nice in term of more lake landscaping and higher land.
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Yes, u r right.
Some more buyers oredy aware arroyo garden hv more lake landscaping n higher land during gentlebre launching.
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jan 14 2017, 12:51 PM)
Actly that day I looked from outside. The cradleton quite nice lar.

So far, I dun think got buyers lodge the complain. I only voice the diff type of tree issue
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Rabel taikor, so what is the EM reply about the different type of tree issue? Shall they rectify it?
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jan 14 2017, 07:42 PM)
Yes, u r right.
Some more buyers oredy aware arroyo garden hv more lake landscaping n higher land during gentlebre launching.
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Boss, purchase Gentlebre at least got one thing better than Arroyo leh - other precinct purchaser also will complaint gao gao for you as like they are the purchaser too. Where you can find this in Arroyo? devil.gif devil.gif

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 14 2017, 12:34 PM)
Haha... if based on the saying "no news is good news", judging from SEH thread, seems no issue tongue.gif  but I guess now more buyers in SEH have their discussion in FB or other channel.

Suddenly remember the BBW last time talked so much about SEH/EM/SiMonyet saying ghost town lah, this lah that lah... hehe should invite him to 6c6c now and in another two to three years time. laugh.gif
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I think Precinct 1 SEH easily 50 - 60% (more than 300 houses) already occupied at the moment, even just one year after VP, can be considered one of the fastest occupied housing project within Semenyih I presume. In another 2 years, I think not difficult to reach 80 - 90% occupancy.

Wondering GVH or SEH more ghost now... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 14 2017, 07:58 PM)
Boss, purchase Gentlebre at least got one thing better than Arroyo leh - other precinct purchaser also will complaint gao gao for you as like they are the purchaser too. When you can find this in Arroyo?  devil.gif  devil.gif
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Haha...i think Arroyo garden buyer is quite satisfied. That why never hear any complaints via fb or lowyat page. Or this is silent complaint from their buyer. Rabel, you are buyer for both arroyo garden & gentlebre. How is ur comment about arroyo garden?
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Jan 14 2017, 08:04 PM)
Haha...i think Arroyo garden buyer is quite satisfied. That why never hear any complaints via fb or lowyat page. Or this is silent complaint from their buyer. Rabel, you are buyer for both arroyo garden & gentlebre. How is ur comment about arroyo garden?
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Higher land with nice view especially for units nearer to 360 club house but fencing so so only

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Rabel taikor, so what is the EM reply about the different type of tree issue? Shall they rectify it?
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So far I could not get the good answer
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Boss
So far I could not get the good answer
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Taikor, then this will be a good timing to bang/bombard EM already... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Higher land with nice view especially for units nearer to 360 club house but fencing so so only
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Haha..their fencing sure no nice as EM as EM is majestic concept but PIDS fencing is quite safe to prevent intruders. I more prefer nice view then nice fencing if for own stay..hehe
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Jan 14 2017, 07:11 PM)
Gentlebre is not so bad and having nice fencing & guardhouse. Just Gentlebre dun have so many lake as SEH P3 and those land surrounding the lake is not belong to public ppl only. Of coz if ppl want compare it v SEH P3..SEH P3 is more nice in term of more lake landscaping and higher land.
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the main problem now is
SEH done nicely inside precint but EM r in public area rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 14 2017, 03:58 PM)
EM SA very funny saying that owner expectation is very high. EM always forget that they are the one who set the expectations and committed to deliver.
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owner expectation high or EW downgrade their deliveries or promises? if craddleton landscape is EW standard, then tan sri cannot claim EcoWorld Class already, can only claim Economy Class. Reputation need to be earned, not self claimed in the first place. Honestly, craddleton landscape is too plain, quite boring and not inviting at all. Wondering who is EW Landscape Consultant with such lousy design?

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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Jan 14 2017, 10:04 PM)
owner expectation high or EW downgrade their deliveries or promises? if craddleton landscape is EW standard, then tan sri cannot claim EcoWorld Class already, can only claim Economy Class. Reputation need to be earned, not self claimed in the first place. Honestly, craddleton landscape is too plain, quite boring and not inviting at all. Wondering who is EW Landscape Consultant with such lousy design?
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Who say lousy? Very nice.
Whatever Eco World are delivering are the new definition of Beauty. Less is more, not easy to deliver such impressive landscape at no elements, that's aots of efforts by Eco World.
Eco World have set a benchmark for THE OTHER developers have to compete and match Eco World standard for the next 10 years. They have successfully CRAFTED our landscape like Tan Sri always says "No one are doing it, we are doing it because we are Eco World".
I think that's what eco world class, the new standard of landscape.

They have really created tomorrow and beyond. I am freaking impressive... ... No wonder Tan Sri is Tan Sri... He see the different tomorrow than us ordinary peoples and THE OTHER developers.

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 14 2017, 08:03 PM)
I think Precinct 1 SEH easily 50 - 60% (more than 300 houses) already occupied at the moment, even just one year after VP, can be considered one of the fastest occupied housing project within Semenyih I presume. In another 2 years, I think not difficult to reach 80 - 90% occupancy.     

Wondering GVH or SEH more ghost now...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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50% - 60% for the very 1st phase of a brand new township in year 1 is very impressive! I would expect around 30%. Well done! :thumbsup:
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Jan 14 2017, 09:05 PM)
Haha..their fencing sure no nice as EM as EM is majestic concept but PIDS fencing is quite safe to prevent intruders. I more prefer nice view then nice fencing if for own stay..hehe
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Indeed I understand that the security system of EM fencing is also with PIDS feature (not Agile though) but since backlane is the most important feature to talk about, PIDS or not is not important.
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Haha... if based on the saying "no news is good news", judging from SEH thread, seems no issue tongue.gif  but I guess now more buyers in SEH have their discussion in FB or other channel.

Suddenly remember the BBW last time talked so much about SEH/EM/SiMonyet saying ghost town lah, this lah that lah... hehe should invite him to 6c6c now and in another two to three years time. laugh.gif
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It's not too late to laugh at ah bear yaksi behaviour
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Lol.  At least finally he walked the talk - praise GVH and bought GVH. laugh.gif
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Haha... This is so true.
Maybe he really happy there?
Is he active in GVH thread? Let me check it out.
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Haha... This is so true.
Maybe he really happy there?
Is he active in GVH thread? Let me check it out.
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Very seldom see him but not sure about kopitiam section.
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Taikor, then this will be a good timing to bang/bombard EM already...    sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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The SA told me waiting for management to respond since the answer from SA is not acceptable.
For those external corner lot buyers ( 50% of the external corner lot buyers). U guys can lodge the complain form to EM.
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EM SA very funny saying that owner expectation is very high. EM always forget that they are the one who set the expectations and committed to deliver.
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eco majestic cradleton backyard garden selling point. maybe all EW SA got memory loss. pity buyer like diver lim been short-changed.
EW can look back at their years back Eco Majestic property reviews to refresh their memory.


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believe the backyard review was based on this image given by EW. Now buyers been told off by EW of been very high on their expectation? now thts the real eco world kelas. sekian. doh.gif

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eco majestic cradleton backyard garden selling point. maybe all EW SA got memory loss. pity buyer like diver lim been short-changed.
EW can look back at their years back Eco Majestic property reviews to refresh their memory.


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Beauty is in the eye of beholder.
Personally I think that's the most beautiful backlane I ever seen so far (before the completion of Merrydale and Mellowood)... I am pretty sure that's what EW been selling to me.

No any developer are able to craft such landscape. Only they could, because they're Eco World.

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QUOTE(wl_n @ Jan 15 2017, 10:39 AM)
eco majestic cradleton backyard garden selling point. maybe all EW SA got memory loss. pity buyer like diver lim been short-changed.
EW can look back at their years back Eco Majestic property reviews to refresh their memory.


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EW cant escape from their promises lioa...everything is in the social media......
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:thumbsup:

EW cant escape from their promises lioa...everything is in the social media......
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They didn't escape.
They have already delivered what they committed.

After I heard SA said Cradleton landscape are already beautiful, I suddenly realized it's beautiful.

So beautiful ... Actually what else buyers are demanding?
You already got the most beautiful landscape in Malaysia crafted by Eco World, what else do you guys want?

It's our honour to own a house crafted by EW.

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QUOTE(wl_n @ Jan 15 2017, 10:51 AM)
believe the backyard review was based on this image given by EW. Now buyers been told off by EW of been very high on their expectation? now thts the real eco world kelas. sekian. doh.gif
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If the back lane turn out to be too different from the marketing artist impression photo.....Can't the buyers sue on the basis of misleading marketing material?
I understand the artist impression can be different from the real end product BUT it can't turn out to be totally different, right?
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So obvious brochure not same with actual still can accept?

If earlier brochure show normal outdated backlane and we still buy then fair enough but now totally different
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If the back lane turn out to be too different from the marketing artist impression photo.....Can't the buyers sue on the basis of misleading marketing material?
I understand the artist impression can be different from the real end product BUT it can't turn out to be totally different, right?
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It's already beautiful, why sue?
You want to count trees?
You want to count number of flowers?
Trees not mature also complain?

Please la you guys.
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So obvious brochure not same with actual still can accept?

If earlier brochure show normal outdated backlane and we still buy then fair enough but now totally different
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Can you be more realistic?
What you want?
How many leaves you want to count or not? Sun raise from different anger from the brochure you want to complain or not?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 15 2017, 11:41 AM)
It's already beautiful, why sue?
You want to count trees?
You want to count number of flowers?
Trees not mature also complain?

Please la you guys.
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sue for monetary compensation la Driver Lim.
House built cannot change anymore 15 ft back lane is 15ft back lane.
But EW should not have a misleading artist impression photo that mislead buyers in their ads.
You can tell the judge that you buy based on the misleading artist impression photos but the real product turn out totally different.
You should get compensated for that be it $20k, $30k,$50k


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sue for monetary compensation la Driver Lim.
House built cannot change anymore 15 ft back lane is 15ft back lane.
But EW should not have a misleading artist impression photo that mislead buyers in their ads.
You can tell the judge that you buy based on the misleading artist impression photos but the real product turn out totally different.
You should get compensated for that be it $20k, $30k,$50k
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So beautiful already mah...
How to sue, you bring to lawyer, lawyer would ask you your landscape so beautiful how to sue?

Backlane not everything ma.
You don't like Backlane, close back door lo.
You don't like front door, use side door lo.
You don't like garden, go swan lake lo.

House only ma... Why so demanding oh?

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So beautiful already mah...
How to sue, you bring to lawyer, lawyer would ask you your backlane so beautiful how to sue?
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you show your lawyer
1) the photo in the ads
2) the real end product photo

ask you lawyer if the ads photo look the same or look different than the real end product photo lor.
If he say look the same, ask him how many % look the same.
If he say tree not mature...ask if it will look like artist impression photo when tree mature down the road lor. e.g. how many % same etc.

Then ask your lawyer got chance to sue or not lor..

You should not sue yourself la...combine all your buyers in a whatsapp or fb group and discuss among yourselves lor.
I are just an outsider but cant stand buyers being bullied by developers.

(I am not a lawyer but this is quite common sense mah)
The end product cannot look totally different from the artist impression photo.

Good luck!

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what they committed in ecoworld class?

1. ecoworld class is about cementing their brand
2. their brand is about honouring their promises
3. you put it out what you said, you must get it done.

listen to lansri.
sekian.


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Can you be more realistic?
What you want?
How many leaves you want to count or not? Sun raise from different anger from the brochure you want to complain or not?
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Totally different mean totally different

Not about the sun n leaves

Now 90% agree totally different

I don't blame u if u r an easy going guy

Is ok...we let the media reporters decide
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If the back lane turn out to be too different from the marketing artist impression photo.....Can't the buyers sue on the basis of misleading marketing material?
I understand the artist impression can be different from the real end product BUT it can't turn out to be totally different, right?
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you show your lawyer
1) the photo in the ads
2) the real end product photo

ask you lawyer if the ads photo look the same or look different than the real end product photo lor.
If he say look the same, ask him how many % look the same.
If he say tree not mature...ask if it will look like artist impression photo when tree mature down the road lor. e.g. how many % same etc.

Then ask your lawyer got chance to sue or not lor..

You should not sue yourself la...combine all your buyers in a whatsapp or fb group and discuss among yourselves lor.
I are just an outsider but cant stand buyers being bullied by developers.

(I am not a lawyer but this is quite common sense mah)
The end product cannot look totally different from the artist impression photo.

Good luck!
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I don't know..EW told me our landscape are already very beautiful.

You think not same, not nice, it's your personal taste, it's when you have over expectations mah...

EW told me nice ma.

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what they committed in ecoworld class?

1. ecoworld class is about cementing their brand
2. their brand is about honouring their promises
3. you put it out what you said, you must get it done.

listen to lansri.
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https://youtu.be/EtRO61_j7e0
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Ya, you see finally you know what we talking right?
That's why I said it's nice when EW said it's nice.

All future buyers MUST believe.
Look no others... The best products CRAFTED by eco world.

Not build you know....CRAFT you know? Don't play play.
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Cradleton owners, do highlight your concern to EM when you have chance to drop by sales gallery. Demand for clarifications. They aware what's happening in the forum. Let them know that real buyers are serious on the quality of the final product.

One thing for sure is SA will divert the topic to their virtual expectations, like their township concept, bla bla bla... Stay focus, tell them what expectations n that they have crafted in the owner's mind by EW. I have done my part as the owner. Others, please do the same. Complaining in the forum, they will hear but not necessarily will take action. If the decide to be reactive mode and do nothing, then i will bombard EW officially upon VP.
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Cradleton owners,  do highlight your concern to EM when you have chance to drop by sales gallery. Demand for clarifications.  They aware what's happening in the forum. Let them know that real buyers are serious on the quality of the final product. 

One thing for sure is SA will divert the topic to their virtual expectations,  like their township concept,  bla bla bla...  Stay focus,  tell them what expectations n that they have crafted in the owner's mind by EW. I have done my part as the owner. Others,  please do the same.  Complaining in the forum,  they will hear but not necessarily will take action. If the decide to be reactive mode and do nothing,  then i will bombard EW officially upon VP.
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Cradleton landscape is beautiful.
We not satisfy because we have too high expectations.

If those buyers manage their expectations well.
EW have actually delivered above their expectations.

Most importantly, not yet VP, bising apa?

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The sarcasm level in the thread very high today. Lol
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kenot. there is discaimer clause of any video/brochure, tht it is not part of spa.
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of course they will have the disclaimer la.
If you collect all owners in the neighbourhood and 90% of owner put their signature stating they buy based on video/brochure presented to them during their visit to showroom instead of the SPA.
To me that's already a case for misleading advertisement.
Let see who the judge will side with?



Option two is for the all the owners to do battle with EW on social media write negative reviews online on their fb page, google reviews, youtube etc
If their future sales is affected, you think they will negotiate or compensate owners?


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The sarcasm level in the thread very high today. Lol
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uhmmm....I have nothing more to say.
Just wait for the house to to be VP'ed and see how it finally turn out.
Good luck to all buyers.

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of course they will have the disclaimer la.
If you collect all owners in the neighbourhood  and 90% of owner put their signature stating they buy based on video/brochure presented to them during their visit to showroom instead of the SPA.
To me that's already a case for misleading advertisement.
Let see who the judge will side with?
Option two is for the all the owners to do battle with EW on social media write negative reviews online on their fb page, google reviews, youtube etc
If their future sales is affected, you think they will negotiate or compensate owners?
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Later I bring a 13 years old kids to police station, lodge you for Sedition Act I tell you.

When EW said the landscape is nice. Then the landscape is nice. Who are you to say landscape is not nice? Are you Eco World?
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The sarcasm level in the thread very high today. Lol
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Happy nagging thread till version 16...   rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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If those ridiculous people don't demanding so much and learn to realize the beauty of EW landscape we can.have a more enjoyable thread here...

We are here to get our happiness, to know when got free makan, to hear EW no 1, together promote EM to get more buyers...

We are not interested to hear how they think about our landscape.

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of course they will have the disclaimer la.
If you collect all owners in the neighbourhood  and 90% of owner put their signature stating they buy based on video/brochure presented to them during their visit to showroom instead of the SPA.
To me that's already a case for misleading advertisement.
Let see who the judge will side with?
Option two is for the all the owners to do battle with EW on social media write negative reviews online on their fb page, google reviews, youtube etc
If their future sales is affected, you think they will negotiate or compensate owners?
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The problem now is like this:

For the VP precinct such as Gentlebre, purchaser (at least one from the forummers) mentions the landscape is okay, only have the trees variation issue, which the purchaser already lodged complaint to the developer and awaiting management decision.

Nonetheless, other precinct purchasers, based on a few pictures, claim that the landscape in Gentlebre precinct is no good, no ummph, not majestic enough and assume the same will happen on their precinct, although is not yet VP. So how? brows.gif brows.gif
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The problem now is like this:

For the VP precinct such as Gentlebre, purchaser (at least one from the forummers) mentions the landscape is okay, only have the trees variation issue, which the purchaser already lodged complaint to the developer and awaiting management decision.

Nonetheless, other precinct purchasers, based on a few pictures, claim that the landscape in Gentlebre precinct is no good, no ummph, not majestic enough and assume the same will happen on their precinct, although is not yet VP. So how?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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That's why. Beauty is in the eye of beholder.
The landscape are so beautiful dy... I am not sure what they bising?
Not yet VP, bising what?

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 15 2017, 01:41 PM)
The problem now is like this:

For the VP precinct such as Gentlebre, purchaser (at least one from the forummers) mentions the landscape is okay, only have the trees variation issue, which the purchaser already lodged complaint to the developer and awaiting management decision.

Nonetheless, other precinct purchasers, based on a few pictures, claim that the landscape in Gentlebre precinct is no good, no ummph, not majestic enough and assume the same will happen on their precinct, although is not yet VP. So how?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I am not a buyer here and no plan to buy. Just kpc only.
How EW handle this will determine if I am going invest in a EW home in the future.

For existing EM buyers, as long as it is not VP it is not considered as final product.
Just wait for house to be VP and determine the next steps lor.
In the meantime buyers should organize themselves be it in fb group or whatsapp group and be ready to negotiate as a group rather than as an individual.
I have nothing more to say.
Good Luck to all buyers.

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jan 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
I am not a buyer here and no plan to buy. Just kpc only.
How EW handle this will determine if I am going invest in a EW home in the future.

For existing EM buyers, as long as it is not VP it is not considered as final product.
Just wait for house to be VP and determine the next steps lor.
In the meantime buyers should organize themselves be it in fb group or whatsapp group and be ready to negotiate as a group rather than as an individual.
I have nothing more to say.
Good Luck to all buyers.
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That's right. Thanks for your KPC.
We can tell you that also we don't feel ashame of ourselves, you listen one just listen.

We only want to keep this thread harmony for EW future customers to visit to understand how amazing is EW.

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Happy nagging thread till version 16...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jan 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
I am not a buyer here and no plan to buy. Just kpc only.
As long as it is not VP it is not considered as final product.
Just wait for house to be VP and determine the next steps lor.
In the meantime buyers should organize themselves be it in fb group or whatsapp group and be ready to negotiate as a group rather than as an individual.
I have nothing more to say.
Good Luck to all buyers.
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Haha, people will tell you "cannot wait till VP, because wait till VP already considered too late liao"..

In public forum mah, no issue one. Talk is cheap, some more behind the screen, no need to be responsible for anything comment. If comment wrongly liao then just replace with new ID and continue talk again loh.

Cradleton purchasers should feel happy ler, because so many people are concern about the landscape, even before VP. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 15 2017, 01:58 PM)
Haha, people will tell you "cannot wait till VP, because wait till VP already considered too late liao"..

In public forum mah, no issue one. Talk is cheap, some more behind the screen, no need to be responsible for anything comment. If comment wrongly liao then just replace with new ID and continue talk again loh.

Cradleton purchasers should feel happy ler, because so many people are concern about the landscape, even before VP.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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No, not happy..selling time we happy everyone promote for us, but deliver time we want to keep it very secretly. As silent as possible.
Print on paper, speak on stage also we no need to be responsible and don't feel ashame, those peoples behind screen of course no need to be responsible. Thus we can't expect much from them.
We don't feel like want to know how they see our landscape.
EW said wait until VP, then we wait.
EW said nice, then we all feel nice also.

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jan 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
I am not a buyer here and no plan to buy. Just kpc only.
How EW handle this will determine if I am going invest in a EW home in the future.

For existing EM buyers, as long as it is not VP it is not considered as final product.
Just wait for house to be VP and determine the next steps lor.
In the meantime buyers should organize themselves be it in fb group or whatsapp group and be ready to negotiate as a group rather than as an individual.
I have nothing more to say.
Good Luck to all buyers.
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Unfortunately, it will affect the value of the property which affects the existing purchaser. I guess some here (especially those for short term investment) is doing a risk management to calm down some of the purchasers here.
My suggestion for those Cradleton buyers, do what you think is right and not listen to others with vested interest and with different interest from yours.
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QUOTE(shawnk @ Jan 15 2017, 03:12 PM)
Unfortunately, it will affect the value of the property which affects the existing purchaser. I guess some here (especially those for short term investment) is doing a risk management to calm down some of the purchasers here.
My suggestion for those Cradleton buyers, do what you think is right and not listen to others with vested interest and with different interest from yours.
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i am surprised that EW is not taking proactive actions to communicate to the buyers since they are aware of the expectations.. it leaves the issue open for so long and everyone is making their own guess. Remain silent while continue paying with its brand's goodwill doesnt look like a good strategy. sweat.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(LTFan @ Jan 15 2017, 05:02 PM)
i am surprised that EW is not taking proactive actions to communicate to the buyers since they are aware of the expectations.. it leaves the issue open for so long and everyone is making their own guess.  Remain silent while continue paying with its brand's goodwill doesnt look like a good strategy. sweat.gif  hmm.gif
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I'm sure by now they are aware of the discussion in the forum or at least brought to their attention through some of the buyer that has communicated their dissatisfaction of Cradleton that's going to VP soon. Agree with you it's not a good strategy if they continue to ignore the buyers' concern sooner or later all their hard work of branding/marketing will go to waste when the product didn't turn out as good especially in this modern world where things get spread quickly through internet social media. The cost of a nice backlane/landscape that they promised versus the budget they spent on branding (e.g. concert, professional talks, food events and etc) is minimal. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong especially those experience or in the construction line.
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good news

vp postponed

cradleton - march / april
tenderfield - june / july

cradelton backlane will have plants ....
not very detailed info .... but at least got plants
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i wonder why i can get info and cradleton buyers didnt ...
very fishy ....
complain here but dare not ask SA ?
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 10:07 AM)
i wonder why i can get info and cradleton buyers didnt ...
very fishy ....
complain here but dare not ask SA ?
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Which info? Where the back lane has plants?
For the back lane issue is related to the planter box and landscaping around it that they promised at the early stage and showed an illustration picture of it which was well circulates in this forum. And recently according to some that asked, EW is saying buyer is having too high expectation when they are merely expecting what they were sold.
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i wonder why i can get info and cradleton buyers didnt ...
very fishy ....
complain here but dare not ask SA ?
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Which info? Where the back lane has plants?
For the back lane issue is related to the planter box and landscaping around it that they promised at the early stage and showed an illustration picture of it which was well circulates in this forum. And recently according to some that asked, EW is saying buyer is having too high expectation when they are merely expecting what they were sold.
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i think many false news here
better ask EM SA by urself
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i still remember the first time i went to em
they are having some event that day
me and my wife walk in, asked some SA which precint available..
they said left 2C, 2D, 2F only
so we went to look at sample house 2F
then went back to gallery and choose unit and pay deposit
we didnt ask anything and SA also didnt say anything ( about landscape , cow grass , etc etc )

but when i heard about how nice is carpet grass vs cow grass ... i was sad
i was like being cheated by em ...
and i thought ive paid double the price of a semi d and im suppose to get carpet grass and not cow grass ...

but when i think back ... em didnt lie to me
only i have high expectation .... since i thought i paid double the normal semi d price and im ought to have best products ...
this is totally unfair to developer ... in this case ... em

so i suggest that u guys.... just ask you SA if got doubts
dont complain here and didnt take any actions
unless... u r fake buyer .... which only wanna kakacaucau
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 10:28 AM)
i still remember the first time i went to em
they are having some event that day
me and my wife walk in, asked some SA which precint available..
they said left 2C, 2D, 2F only
so we went to look at sample house 2F
then went back to gallery and choose unit and pay deposit
we didnt ask anything and SA also didnt say anything ( about landscape , cow grass , etc etc )

but when i heard about how nice is carpet grass vs cow grass ... i was sad
i was like being cheated by em ...
and i thought ive paid double the price of a semi d and im suppose to get carpet grass and not cow grass ...

but when i think back ... em didnt lie to me
only i have high expectation .... since i thought i paid double the normal semi d price and im ought to have best products ...
this is totally unfair to developer ... in this case ... em

so i suggest that u guys.... just ask you SA if got doubts
dont complain here and didnt take any actions
unless... u r fake buyer .... which only wanna kakacaucau
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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Jan 16 2017, 10:27 AM)
mayb diver lim too shy to ask. or another key board warrior? laugh.gif
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Many buyers experienced the same computer and.irresponsible response since months ago and officially declare would not talk to SA anymore and choose to raise our concerns in the more effective way. I already announced openly I have feedup and would not talk to EW SA anymore. That's why I Never share information I have been inform SINCE then... I only comment on site progress.

That fishy fellow to talk about fishy.
Somebody lick EW ass 100% no matter how and what, zero questions 100% good... Who have hidden agenda, you know, I know. Now want to play blackout.
He is fishy, we are fishy, everybody are fishy.
He get his job done by licking the ass clean while we raise the concern we want to raise and get them to fix their shit.

No need to guess who is fishy.

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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 10:28 AM)
i still remember the first time i went to em
they are having some event that day
me and my wife walk in, asked some SA which precint available..
they said left 2C, 2D, 2F only
so we went to look at sample house 2F
then went back to gallery and choose unit and pay deposit
we didnt ask anything and SA also didnt say anything ( about landscape , cow grass , etc etc )

but when i heard about how nice is carpet grass vs cow grass ... i was sad
i was like being cheated by em ...
and i thought ive paid double the price of a semi d and im suppose to get carpet grass and not cow grass ...

but when i think back ... em didnt lie to me
only i have high expectation .... since i thought i paid double the normal semi d price and im ought to have best products ...
this is totally unfair to developer ... in this case ... em

so i suggest that u guys.... just ask you SA if got doubts
dont complain here and didnt take any actions
unless... u r fake buyer .... which only wanna kakacaucau
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Yiu didn't ask = Everybody didn't ask?

Your buying process are totally different from Cradleton buying process, tell me which Cradleton buyers have same buying progress with you?

If different then you should shut your stupid mouth when others precinct talk about their Precinct.

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Give some information, spread here....then start to blackout everybody and all information shared by everyone these long.


"Hey, guys you know what, SA said VP delayed"
I can get information they can't, so they are fishy and fake."

His logic is SA willing to inform him delayed = Everybody didn't ask about lastest VP date yesterday are fishy= SA are still world class= SA will never over commit= all concerns raised and challenge request EW to fulfill are invalid.

How ridiculous.
Nice try.

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Luckily I can still show proof I did ask before feedup.

Next time talk to EW Class SA bring recorder... Those face to face conversation if you didn't record, somebody would blackout you one.

Just use one new information he can attempt to blackout you're fishy and fake.
Very nice try.

*discrimination:- The official SA handle me are very helpful and responsible.
The reasons I didn't push he/her much is I understand she couldn't answer much on my concerns after a few attempt to get more info from she/her.
We don't go harsh on nice peoples. I have no complaints on this SA.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 11:15 AM)
Give some information, spread here....then start to blackout everybody and all information shared by everyone these long.
"Hey, guys you know what, SA said VP delayed"
I can get information they can't, so they are fishy and fake."

His logic is SA willing to inform him delayed = Everybody didn't ask about lastest VP date yesterday are fishy= SA are still world class= SA will never over commit= all concerns raised and challenge request EW to fulfill are invalid.

How ridiculous.
Nice try.
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Diver bro, dun so angry ya..I suggest that gather buyer and wrote a letter to address all concern to EW CEO and TS LKS. This is what SEH P1 RA do when they find out there is some fencing issue before Vpe. No full fencing provided at the first place and RA write email to SP CEO, COO & Executive Vp to address the concern on fencing. Finally, SP accept the suggestion from RA and provided full fencing to SEH P1.
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chill man

1st, i didnt mention u was the fake and fishy buyer ( diver lim )
your respond really surprised me
secondly, ok ill do as u say, i wont bother your precint and wont kepoh much
thirdly, cny soon ... dont be so worked up
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anyway, thanks em for the 4 packets angpow, nicely done
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 12:38 PM)
hahaha
chill man

1st, i didnt mention u was the fake and fishy buyer ( diver lim )
your respond really surprised me
secondly, ok ill do as u say, i wont bother your precint and wont kepoh much
thirdly, cny soon ... dont be so worked up
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anyway, thanks em for the 4 packets angpow, nicely done
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First at all, you address to Cradleton Buyers. It should mean to all Cradleton buyers and I am one of them. You attempt to blackout our concerns and i have the responsibility to stand up and clear our name.

Secondly, your statement have lead peoples to misunderstand my intention and purpose.

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i wonder why u so worked up?
its not a fail investment
its not a delivered products
and u already assumed its final
what can satisfy u ?
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i wonder why u so worked up?
its not a fail investment
its not a delivered products
and u already assumed its final
what can satisfy u ?
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@Jasoncat, can you kindly share Version 15 link to Version 13A? Cause got forumer can't found verson 15.

I think they not familiar with forum operation.

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@Jasoncat, can you kindly share Version 15 link to Version 13A? Cause got forumer can't found verson 15.
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Huh?! A search will do.
Nvm, will share the link then.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 02:50 PM)
@Jasoncat, can you kindly share Version 15 link to Version 13A? Cause got forumer can't found verson 15.

I think they not familiar with forum operation.
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Done.
Btw bro don't use strong words lah, neighbour mah, muhibah bro.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 16 2017, 02:58 PM)
Done.
Btw bro don't use strong words lah, neighbour mah, muhibah bro.
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Angry to see somebody attempt to play blackout things...
I am okay and sorry for the bad atmosphere in your thread.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 16 2017, 02:58 PM)
Done.
Btw bro don't use strong words lah, neighbour mah, muhibah bro.
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 09:49 AM)
good news

vp postponed

cradleton - march / april
tenderfield - june / july

cradelton backlane will have plants ....
not very detailed info .... but at least got plants
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EW monitoring this forum too
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Wah....taici and shift oh..
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Diver , you better go Find my friend in CIDB

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indeed
they are well aware of it cause some SA did inform me they also followed our conversation here

me as well glad if em can deliver as promised and as majestic as ever
cause it will eventually affect my precint price as well
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Wa long time nvr come here.. this EM threads so hot already, can go up to version 15.. geng biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Hmmm.. no need overly speculate when is VP la, since it's a moving target as long it hand-over by Q1.

I'm sharing latest update that I got just from yesterday.

Cradleton is on Feb'17, Tenderfield is on Apr'17 icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

And there is already 360/Arial View video made by Eco World and shared/presented to public. From what I see is quite nice, got the gazebo and signature roundabout/entrance but not up to details of back lane.

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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Jan 16 2017, 12:10 PM)
Diver bro, dun so angry ya..I suggest that gather buyer and wrote a letter to address all concern to EW CEO and TS LKS. This is what SEH P1 RA do when they find out there is some fencing issue before Vpe. No full fencing provided at the first place and RA write email to SP CEO, COO & Executive Vp to address the concern on fencing. Finally, SP accept the suggestion from RA and provided full fencing to SEH P1.
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By speed reading so many pages..

Wonder why Diver Lim so actively protesting here assuming EW will draw attention to him, but not taking pro-active actions to lead and channel it to the management, as suggested by numerous others. The past few months had already proved this channel or methodology would not resolve the issue, so continue nagging/grumpy here will deem not effective at all.

Presume some personnel are just being shy in the real world (have seen many uncles are like that) whereby they are fierce/vocal at home (or offline) - complaining this and that, but when needing to deliver/convey that problem statement, it fails and continue the complains at home again.

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 16 2017, 02:58 PM)
Done.
Btw bro don't use strong words lah, neighbour mah, muhibah bro.
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Agreed with Jason taikor.

By scolding others stupid.. a person doesn't sound smart though..

In fact this is mere open forum/platform for all to discuss/brainstorm, regardless of which precinct/phase you bought and even for non-EM buyer, or investors as well. Such disgrace to chase away ppl who does not purchase EM/EW like what I seen in version 14. We shouldn't encourage this type of behavior.

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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 04:18 PM)
indeed
they are well aware of it cause some SA did inform me they also followed our conversation here

me as well glad if em can deliver as promised and as majestic as ever
cause it will eventually affect my precint price as well
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From my chit-chat with them, they did not purposely follow.

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More of, there are few EM staffs who vested in Cradleton, Tenderfield (sharing with other staffs), and Karisma so they browse LYN too; same like many of us to discover information that could be useful to us.

So whatever happening here is just like a "feedbacks from digital forum, and they might/might not analyze the details".

The least that i know is, their marketing manager also bought Cradleton, buy he seems quite happy and anticipating the VP through our talks while eating dumplings..


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From my chit-chat with them, they did not purposely follow.

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More of, there are few EM staffs who vested in Cradleton, Tenderfield (sharing with other staffs), and Karisma so they browse LYN too; same like many of us to discover information that could be useful to us.

So whatever happening here is just like a "feedbacks from digital forum, and they might/might not analyze the details".

The least that i know is, their marketing manager also bought Cradleton, buy he seems quite happy and anticipating the VP through our talks while eating dumplings..
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normally i chit chat about renovation stuff , which can or can not do under strata title and since im first time buyer and its for own stay, i ask them alot noob questions .... hahha
but on and off also i did ask them about whats going on in lyn here... last was about tenderfield cow or carpet grass .... from there i know that some SA did follow this forum lo
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 04:42 PM)
By speed reading so many pages..

Wonder why Diver Lim so actively protesting here assuming EW will draw attention to him, but not taking pro-active actions to lead and channel it to the management, as suggested by numerous others. The past few months had already proved this channel or methodology would not resolve the issue, so continue nagging/grumpy here will deem not effective at all.

Presume some personnel are just being shy in the real world (have seen many uncles are like that) whereby they are fierce/vocal at home (or offline) - complaining this and that, but when needing to deliver/convey that problem statement, it fails and continue the complains at home again. 

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You have your analysis and I have my believe yhat what kind of awareness we created instead of listen another round of sales talk.
Funny enough that you talk like you know I never follow up my concerns to them to judge about me.

Thank you for 100% personal attacks with no single valuable point.


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i wonder why diver lim are being too sensitive ...

seriously, i was talking about fake and fishy cradleton buyer and some spoiler but end up he jump in and protested ...
maybe he had a bad day ...
but im fine with it cause maybe he disatisfied for quite some times and need to vent out ...
anyway, hope em can deliver the best in term of landscape or backlane or whatsoever problems that u guys may find it fits ...
and i will always support diver lim for his fight cause it will eventually benefited us in other precint as well
good luck diver lim
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 04:52 PM)
normally i chit chat about renovation stuff , which can or can not do under strata title and since im first time buyer and its for own stay, i ask them alot noob questions .... hahha
but on and off also i did ask them about whats going on in lyn here... last was about tenderfield cow or carpet grass .... from there i know that some SA did follow this forum lo
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So you Shout so loud this morning about delay VP to March/April, what's the story now?
Somebody just said updated yesterday Cradleton is on Feb.

Feb/March/April doesn't matter to me just curious because you shout so loud about the DELAY part this morning.

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friday and saturday i told u guys to ask SA the latest backlane issue
but no one ask ....
so i said ill be there on weekend and kepoh for u guys lo
since semua complain but no one will to ask SA
then i go ask and get info
and tell u guys lo
they are awared of this issue and postponed vp to make nice nice garden for u
its a good news
but i dont know why u seems like in other misunderstanding way...
anyway, times up
5pm off work...
tomorrow again
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 04:52 PM)
normally i chit chat about renovation stuff , which can or can not do under strata title and since im first time buyer and its for own stay, i ask them alot noob questions .... hahha
but on and off also i did ask them about whats going on in lyn here... last was about tenderfield cow or carpet grass .... from there i know that some SA did follow this forum lo
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You are right to clear your doubts to anyone you think fit in EW (incl. sales staff, architect, support, cust service, management, etc).

As to report out, I always wrote-in emails to improve/clear my dissatisfaction (also part of plan to capture the prove/their commit as black and white), from previous purchase on Tropicana, Paramount, etc.

And guess what, many things can actually get done/improved by putting right stress to the right people, escalate to the right decision maker and follow up - mainly through recursive+persuasive negotiations and supplying fact-driven collateral/details so they could understand and calibrate from buyer's standpoint, and accommodate/damage control.

I won't fully deny few people's suggestion here in LYN to actually improve after VPed. blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

As if you experienced enough, that could be done more effectively in many gated & guarded community.
Just lay a few deliverables from my experience as RA/JMB committee that we accomplished and exit after VPed:

1. Get dev to pave new entry/exit road
2. Demand to improve overall lightings, gardening and also landscapes
3. Work with MP to gauge efficiency/frequency of rubbish collection and other fixtures
4. Get dev to commit beyond what they had promised
5. Get dev to zero-lise the accounts/debts before handing over to RA and recal the maintenance fees per land size

So for those that affected, you may highlight/preempt your concerns before VPed (so that both parties are well aware of the risks) and get the subject matter improved/clear as continuous journey, after VPed.

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may I know EM come with 2 years or 3 years defects liability period?
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 16 2017, 05:12 PM)
friday and saturday i told u guys to ask SA the latest backlane issue
but no one ask ....
so i said ill be there on weekend and kepoh for u guys lo
since semua complain but no one will to ask SA
then i go ask and get info
and tell u guys lo
they are awared of this issue and postponed vp to make nice nice garden for u
its a good news
but i dont know why u seems like in other misunderstanding way...
anyway, times up
5pm off work...
tomorrow again
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hi, so tenderfield VP will delayed also? or still stick to Q2 2017?
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Everyone have his own difficulties.

Maybe some of us here rushing to move in.
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hi, so tenderfield VP will delayed also? or still stick to Q2 2017?
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Q2 April 2017 , as shared to public, yesterday evening PM.

But most end products would took about <2 months for the hand over session and related procedural clearance.

So the earliest/pioneer who got the key and the last one might have 1 month+ of duration gap.

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2 years as regulated plus another 1 year extended by EM.
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It's usually denoted as 2 years for landed but what I understand is EW extended it to 3 years.

For EW high-rise it should be 2 years still. I might be wrong.
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It's usually denoted as 2 years for landed but what I understand is EW extended it to 3 years.

For EW high-rise it should be 2 years still. I might be wrong.
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EW follow same practice as their ex-company since they bring same genetic from ex-company..hehe...For high-rise like middle apartment, the defect period also remain as two years in their ex-company.
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Got mine red packets as well, IMO SPS is bit dull and EW one is not thick enough.

Afterall still EW is better (judging the design from front & back).

Disclaimer: I'm not (and do not lick) EW's ball... hehehe

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EW follow same practice as their ex-company since they bring same genetic from ex-company..hehe...For high-rise like middle apartment, the defect period also remain as two years in their ex-company.
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Noted it's also part of their strategy after looking at internal costing/forecast, after evaluation from risk management dept on the aspects of "delivery quality" versus "assurance period".

Take other examples like window tint of your car or buying home furniture, I tend to have higher confidence (more of internal self-confidence) if the seller/vendor gave me longer warranty period, on comparable price window/basis.

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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 05:22 PM)
Q2 April 2017 , as shared to public, yesterday evening PM.

But most end products would took about <2 months for the hand over session and related procedural clearance.

So the earliest/pioneer who got the key and the last one might have 1 month+ of duration gap.

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You repot April 2017. Tenderfield repot vp June/July 2017. Both just got info fr EM Sa yesterday. Which Sa kelentong? laugh.gif
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You repot April 2017. Tenderfield repot vp June/July 2017. Both just got info fr EM Sa yesterday. Which Sa kelentong? laugh.gif
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1) one said announced to public Apr17.
2) one said June/Jul17
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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Jan 16 2017, 05:57 PM)
You repot April 2017. Tenderfield repot vp June/July 2017. Both just got info fr EM Sa yesterday. Which Sa kelentong? laugh.gif
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Their.intention is to enlighten and to show me that talk to SA could clear all my doubts and solve my problems. I only become more confusing now... Hahaha... Should I take their advice or not then?

Doesn't matter, I assume more important is to.know EW is the best.

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You repot April 2017. Tenderfield repot vp June/July 2017. Both just got info fr EM Sa yesterday. Which Sa kelentong? laugh.gif
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Dear LaBoost,

Use your intelligence to judge which one is correct. To me, what has been presented/publish/shared to public in black and white definitely is more reliable than word of mouth.

The forumers are just sharing whatever info they have in hands for benefits of all, on the best efforts. However it doesn't translate as to spoonfeed until that kind of level/extent, unless it's meant for handicapped persons.

If you choose not to believe it, then go and find out your answers and share to us.

Cheers

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The reason a person walk in to ask SA is he didn't see the announcement.

Hence, he have to assume that the answer he got from SA is correct.

Were asking why information from SA can be different from another SA or announcement. Asking because he didn't see the announcement too.

Answer is."scold, scold, scold"

And the one scolding were saying scolding is stupid.

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Dear LaBoost,

Use your intelligence to judge which one is correct. To me, what has been presented/publish/shared to public in black and white definitely is more reliable than word of mouth.

The forumers are just sharing whatever info they have in hands for benefits of all, on the best efforts. However it doesn't translate as to spoonfeed until that kind of level/extent, unless it's meant for handicapped persons.

If you choose not to believe it, then go and find out your answers and share to us.

Cheers

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glad you hav the intelligence not to get kelentong. means tenderfield got kelentong liau. vp no postphoned. laugh.gif
final vp date:
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tenderfield april 2017

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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Jan 16 2017, 08:08 PM)
glad you hav the intelligence not to get kelentong. means tenderfield got kelentong liow. vp no postphoned. laugh.gif
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You found the official announcement? Where they published?
Can you share?
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You found the official announcement? Where they published?
Can you share?
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honesty tan says got wo but kenot spoonfeed. laugh.gif
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I am handicap. Cause can't found official announcement= handicap.

I thought you found.
Okay, together we handicap la.

I spoonfeed you and you spoonfeed me okay?
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glad you hav the intelligence not to get kelentong. means tenderfield got kelentong liow. vp no postphoned. laugh.gif
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He's just sharing what SA had told him. And I'm just sharing what EW had presented. Ntg more about that.

The one who kelentong here is you. Why don't you go and validate which one more accurate if you're keen to know.

Or you are being shy as well?😊😊😊


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You found the official announcement? Where they published?
Can you share?
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That's why you fail to get what you want, even after 6 months loh. Always sit here and shy to go out or ask.

I already shared the screenshot, and since you already admit on your incapacity then I share with you la.


It's presented in yesterday talk, and highly likely on joey yap talk as well.



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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 08:34 PM)
That's why you fail to get what you want, even after 6 months loh. Always sit here and shy to go out or ask.

I already shared the screenshot, and since you already admit on your incapacity then I share with you la.
It's presented in yesterday talk, and highly likely on joey yap talk as well.
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So sorry, I am the only one can't see what's in your image and to expect VP date there. I thought the.official announcement on black/white you mean are really some sort of official announcement.

By the way, I didn't like free talk free makan... It never mean lazy and shy to go out. I believe you have the intelligence to understand this too.

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Can't wait for it to VP. Sure got more complaints. Eco switch, eco floor trap, eco basin etc. I sarport you guys, tekan ew kaw kaw.
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Jan 16 2017, 08:56 PM)
Can't wait for it to VP. Sure got more complaints. Eco switch, eco floor trap, eco basin etc.  I sarport you guys, tekan ew kaw kaw.
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Can not tekan.

SA give different information from.presentation slide is not kelentong.

Forumers ask why they can have different answer is kelentong.

Didn't attend talk and free makan is handicap and shy and lazy.

6 months refuse to have more convincing answer is also purchaser fault.

SA give wrong info also okay.

What can be wrong about EW?
EW is the best.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 08:37 PM)
So sorry, I am the only one can't see what's in your image and to expect VP date there. I thought the.official announcement on black/white you mean are really some sort of official announcement.

By the way, I didn't like free talk free makan... It never mean lazy and shy to go out. I believe you have the intelligence to understand this too.
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It's ok, I can forgive and take in the apologize since you admitted already. Not so siu hei la. 😁😁😁

And the suggestion is to go out and get the info, you can just join the talk and/or ask SA f2f.

Nothing to do with whether you wanna makan makan or not. I believe nobody's interested if you makan or not also.
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 09:02 PM)
It's ok, I can forgive and take in the apologize since you admitted already. Not so siu hei la. 😁😁😁

And the suggestion is to go out and get the info, you can just join the talk and/or ask SA f2f.

Nothing to do with whether you wanna makan makan or not. I believe nobody's interested if you makan or not also.
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Ya, you so smart that know we never ask.

Our.friend ask.yesterday VP date also give wrong info and you think okay, no problem.

I have no such intelligence like you.

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Ya, you so smart that know we never ask.

SA give wrong info also you think okay, no problem.

I have no such intelligence like you.
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I didn't say I'm smart. Do I? But since you did say then okla, just take it as complement loh.

SA gaves wrong info I didn't say is ok, but I suggest you to go validate and come back for the correct one.

Can you? Or feel shy? Some bros here maybe can accompany you so let's go together bah...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 09:05 PM)
Ya, you so smart that know we never ask.

Our.friend ask.yesterday VP date also give wrong info and you think okay, no problem.

I have no such intelligence like you.
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Your intelligence definitely diff with most of ppl here..

Don't maketh athem look like same level with you yea...

In fact in science, nobody can prove of same intelligence. Everyone's different and depends on whether we use it or not jek..

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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 09:12 PM)
I didn't say I'm smart. Do I? But since you did say then okla, just take it as complement loh.

SA gaves wrong info I didn't say is ok, but I suggest you to go validate and come back for the correct one.

Can you? Or feel shy? Some bros here maybe can accompany you so let's go together bah...
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So this time I ask.confirm correct one?
Yesterday our friend.asked also thought confirm delay woh.

This time I ask, I got answer. Want to believe or not?
I no intelligence to judge like you.

Sorry again, EW never tell me only intelligence people can buy EW cause normal peoples can't understand them.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 09:16 PM)
So this time I ask.confirm correct one?
Yesterday our friend.asked also thought confirm delay woh.

This time I ask, I got answer. Want to believe or not?
I no intelligence to judge like you.

Sorry again, EW never tell me only intelligence people can buy EW cause normal peoples can't understand them.
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Believe only to your own answer, after you cast away your shy, and verified the answer...

But make sure you don't curi-curi makan yea if you go.. hehehe save some marketing costs to improve the township better, start from small...
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Wow...n its pg 8 Liao.....
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 09:21 PM)
Believe only to your own answer, after you cast away your shy, and verified the answer...

But make sure you don't curi-curi makan yea if you go.. hehehe save some marketing costs to improve the township better, start from small...
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Can not no makan if I go.
After I eat Tan Sri fart..i. Can be like you.

Talk cock somemore thought very intelligence

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Wow...n its pg 8 Liao.....
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Happy entertaining bro Lim to help kill time while waiting my friends.. but I see some improvements over last versions, he's more frank to himself now.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 09:24 PM)
Can not no makan if I go.
After I eat Tan Sri fart..i. Can be like you.

Talk cock somemore thought very intelligence
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Aiyo.. so you want eat or not oh?

Means if you don't eat, you won't fart is it?

Curious face 😮
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Can not no makan if I go.
After I eat Tan Sri fart..i. Can be like you.

Talk cock somemore thought very intelligence
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First time hear "cock" from bro diver lim..

Really more sincere already wor...

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First time hear "cock" from bro diver lim..

Really more sincere already wor...
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Please continue....shift all focus and discussion by showing how much you can holds the balls.
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Please continue....shift all focus and discussion by showing how much you can holds the balls.
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Ohh if I continue, you'll continue or not?

Btw you initiate but avoid answering whether fart or not..

It's ok.. I think.. you're still shy..
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Please continue....shift all focus and discussion by showing how much you can holds the balls.
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Paiseh still innocent.

How you hold your balls? Can teach?

Nah other things you always don't share, this you must share okie.. And I will choose to believe, just I don't do only mah..


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Ok, bro lim,

since you're the one most beh syok the back lane, can share with us what is your findings and the outcomes?

will take it as learning points if found it beneficial.

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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 09:45 PM)
Ohh if I continue, you'll continue or not?

Btw you initiate but avoid answering whether fart or not..

It's ok.. I think.. you're still shy..
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My objective to show how ass licker you are and up to what extend have achieved.

Whether you want to continue or not are not my concerns.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 16 2017, 09:49 PM)
My objective to show how ass licker and up to what extend have achieved.

Whether you want to continue or not are not my concerns.
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Who's ass licker?

Lick EW or lick Diver Lim?

But you already is showing many great response... tks for leading the discussions..
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Tak habis habis...

Ass cock all out lioa...

Am waiting for spooning next...

Not spoon feed...dun get confused
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 09:25 PM)
Happy entertaining bro Lim to help kill time while waiting my friends.. but I see some improvements over last versions, he's more frank to himself now.
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Good to see all EMers enjoy their stay at least in here we all lovey Dovey one big family rclxms.gif
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Just want to share a fact here.

EW has all its right to handover the Cradleton unit to me by 15 June 2017, without the need to pay me a single cent of LAD.


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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 16 2017, 10:51 PM)
Just want to share a fact here.

EW has all its right to handover the Cradleton unit to me by 15 June 2017, without the need to pay me a single cent of LAD.
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The later they handover right beforeLAD kicks in......either it's going to be really awesome feel or it's going to be really bad bad...wi all the expectations hyped up
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 16 2017, 10:51 PM)
Just want to share a fact here.

EW has all its right to handover the Cradleton unit to me by 15 June 2017, without the need to pay me a single cent of LAD.
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Takes full 3 years to build double story terrace, with below expectation landscaping.
SEH P3 takes only two years, with impressive landscaping. How?

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 16 2017, 11:07 PM)
Takes full 3 years to build double story terrace, with below expectation landscaping.
SEH P3 takes only two years, with impressive landscaping. How?
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Nope, I am absolutely 100% sure P3 SEH still doing the upgrading of landscape even after VP.

I only share a fact about the rights of EW, I am not saying EW for sure will use 3 full years to VP.

Whether if it is below expectation landscaping, I need to go into the precinct to see and feel by myself, then only I can comment further... devil.gif devil.gif
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 16 2017, 05:33 PM)
Got mine red packets as well, IMO SPS is bit dull and EW one is not thick enough.

Afterall still EW is better (judging the design from front & back).

Disclaimer: I'm not (and do not lick) EW's ball... hehehe

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Erm, personally I like the angpao packet from SPS more woh, because of the chinese calligraphy wording there...

Then how, someone will claim I am licking SPS now? rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 16 2017, 11:11 PM)
Nope, I am absolutely 100% sure P3 SEH still doing the upgrading of landscape even after VP.

I only share a fact about the rights of EW, I am not saying EW for sure will use 3 full years to VP.

Whether if it is below expectation landscaping, I need to go into the precinct to see and feel by myself, then only I can comment further...  devil.gif  devil.gif
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Buyers during VP seems to be very satisfied with P3 SEH landscaping, even though the upgrading works was ongoing. At least i dont see any complains in the thread, i think.

EM no need take full 3 years. As of today, they have taken 2 years and 7 months 1 day 23 hours ans 23mins to construct cradleton, yet the landscaping is nowhere majestic.

No need u to go in and see and feel i also know your answer already. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 16 2017, 11:22 PM)
Buyers during VP seems to be very satisfied with P3 SEH landscaping, even though the upgrading works was ongoing. At least i dont see any complains in the thread, i think.

EM no need take full 3 years. As of today, they have taken 2 years and 7 months 1 day 23 hours ans 23mins to construct cradleton, yet the landscaping is nowhere majestic.

No need u to go in and see and feel i also know your answer already.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Correction. To be fair, only the backlane is not majestic.
Other area will comment during VP, or else wait for more leaked photos only can comment.

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 16 2017, 11:22 PM)
Buyers during VP seems to be very satisfied with P3 SEH landscaping, even though the upgrading works was ongoing. At least i dont see any complains in the thread, i think.

EM no need take full 3 years. As of today, they have taken 2 years and 7 months 1 day 23 hours ans 23mins to construct cradleton, yet the landscaping is nowhere majestic.

No need u to go in and see and feel i also know your answer already.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Only after VP we all know much more about the landscape inside the P3 SEH. Artist impression pictures only come in after 1 year launching... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Got people complaint or not cannot just judge based on a few purchasers in the Lyn thread, out of few hundred of purchasers in P3, how many really active in Lyn thread huh? 5% or 10%?

Wah, you so terror, can read my mind in future! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

How come I only know your answer now as before going in? I also want learn from you how to predict people feeling leh... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 16 2017, 11:25 PM)
Correction. To be fair, only the backlane is not majestic.
Other area will comment during VP, or else wait for more leaked photos only can comment.
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Oh.... By the way, did SA told you before the backlane will be very "majestic feel" even only with 15 feet?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 16 2017, 11:16 PM)
Erm, personally I like the angpao packet from SPS more woh, because of the chinese calligraphy wording there...

Then how, someone will claim I am licking SPS now?  rclxs0.gif  rclxs0.gif
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Yes here we learned everyone has their preference, be it big ticket like house, or small ticket like ang pao.

Since there is no right or wrong, we shouldn't use the word lick EW or lick SPS anymore as claimed by someone.

😜😜😜
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 16 2017, 11:43 PM)
Oh....  By the way, did SA told you before the backlane will be very "majestic feel" even only with 15 feet?
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Ahh..good that u asked. Btw, it was not SA who told me. I did not know who she was at that time until i see her signature on the letter of offer. But she's so high up ranking in management team now, wont remember small potato like me. Anyway, to cut the story short, 3 year years ago, she told me i can enjoy my evening tea at the back british colonial era inspired theme garden. So, where is it? mad.gif
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 16 2017, 11:54 PM)
Ahh..good that u asked. Btw, it was not SA who told me. I did not know who she was at that time until i see her signature on the letter of offer. But she's so high up ranking in management team now, wont remember small potato like me. Anyway, to cut the story short, 3 year years ago, she told me i can enjoy my evening tea at the back british colonial era inspired theme garden. So, where is it?  mad.gif
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Same here. The SA told me open your back door there is a garden your son can play there, with benches and trees around.

Other than garden, he showed me his ipad photos ( entrance roundabout, colourful landscaping etc.) he said "you will exactly get the same as per photos, even the flower also same colour"

It might be only 5% buyer in this forum. But I guess you can get 80% buyers getting the same illustrations and promise from EW SA.

Good to delay VP. Make our home leng leng.
Good night

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Ahh..good that u asked. Btw, it was not SA who told me. I did not know who she was at that time until i see her signature on the letter of offer. But she's so high up ranking in management team now, wont remember small potato like me. Anyway, to cut the story short, 3 year years ago, she told me i can enjoy my evening tea at the back british colonial era inspired theme garden. So, where is it?  mad.gif
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Jan 16 2017, 11:22 PM)
Buyers during VP seems to be very satisfied with P3 SEH landscaping, even though the upgrading works was ongoing. At least i dont see any complains in the thread, i think.

EM no need take full 3 years. As of today, they have taken 2 years and 7 months 1 day 23 hours ans 23mins to construct cradleton, yet the landscaping is nowhere majestic.

No need u to go in and see and feel i also know your answer already.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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sp* and ij* finishing aren't superbly good, so I'm not too sure if sp* did perform so well with seh p3 and buyers are very satisfied with it . However, if they maintain humble to continuously strive for excellence in the market place, they are actually on the right track.

You may validate from buyer's comments in facebook, sorry to say it was not well perceived on developments @ setia alam and bandar rimbayu. I have the defect photos during first inspection and I was kinda shocked, especially with the rush delivery by ij* with countless performance issue and some functional issue. It claims itself with certified GBI but only seeing toothpick trees upon delivery. Though I reserve for EW till its VP, so far Tropi* has better assurance and quality afterall. You may simply comparing the # of hollow tiles or lists of defects by these developers, to see how serious they are doing the biz.

Without going inside, Cradleton looks modern and nice from outside. Outsiders will usually like it too at first sight. Landscaping wise, YTD it's not very colorful as we thought, and needs/can be improved. Afterall, the residents inherits the real maintenance costs so if it's a must have, dev will usually born the costs for 1-2 years, then surrender back entire budgets to the RA and residents to maintain. From the arial view as shown during the talk, we observed some majestic elements, but it may not be enough/serve as good showcase to entire EM.

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You are right to clear your doubts to anyone you think fit in EW (incl. sales staff, architect, support, cust service, management, etc).

As to report out, I always wrote-in emails to improve/clear my dissatisfaction (also part of plan to capture the prove/their commit as black and white), from previous purchase on Tropicana, Paramount, etc.

And guess what, many things can actually get done/improved by putting right stress to the right people, escalate to the right decision maker and follow up - mainly through recursive+persuasive negotiations and supplying fact-driven collateral/details so they could understand and calibrate from buyer's standpoint, and accommodate/damage control.

I won't fully deny few people's suggestion here in LYN to actually improve after VPed.  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif

As if you experienced enough, that could be done more effectively in many gated & guarded community.
Just lay a few deliverables from my experience as RA/JMB committee that we accomplished and exit after VPed:

1. Get dev to pave new entry/exit road
2. Demand to improve overall lightings, gardening and also landscapes
3. Work with MP to gauge efficiency/frequency of rubbish collection and other fixtures
4. Get dev to commit beyond what they had promised
5. Get dev to zero-lise the accounts/debts before handing over to RA and recal the maintenance fees per land size

So for those that affected, you may highlight/preempt your concerns before VPed (so that both parties are well aware of the risks) and get the subject matter improved/clear as continuous journey, after VPed.

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nice bro
to know u are very much experienced guys
so in future if anything wrong happened to tenderfield, at least u can help out a bit lor
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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Jan 16 2017, 08:08 PM)
glad you hav the intelligence not to get kelentong. means tenderfield got kelentong liau. vp no postphoned. laugh.gif
final vp date:
craddleton feb2017
tenderfield april 2017
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( regarding to honest tan, his source maybe the video on the gallery big monitor? if yes then the video was made somewhere in aug 2016, which the info might not very accurate lo )

hahaha
i dont know la if my SA kelentong me or not
But if u ask me, i am 100% trust my SA
here is why...

as mentioned earlier, im first time buying a house, therefore for all these months, at least once a month ill go in EM
1. to check on my home, i enjoy seeing it from land to structure and painted etc, etc
2. checking on each and every in and exit, timing all distance to schools, workplace, airpot, malls, etc
3. the main reason is to talk with my SA !!! lol

in fact, i have 2 SA,
1st the normal SA which help me thru all the buying process
2ndly is the SA which in charge of tenderfield buyers, the SA did emailed me free movie tickets,
whatsapp me all the on going events in EW, and will help do reservation if im interested to attend..

Now back to the normal SA,
I throw alot of question to this SA
the SA patiently explained each and every of my quentions in detailed. I was so noob that i dont even know what is VP last time. lol
We also talked on renovation ( to do list ), designs, materials, contractors, apps for reference, brands of electrical appliances, etc, and etc ( as he got 2x experince in reno his own house ). I was once being quoted by 2 ID company for my whole house cabinets, which is 160k and 185k respectively. This SA introduced me another ID as reference, i called and ask them quote, its only 130k, another 10% discount upon confirmation and after site measurment.
This SA helped me alot !!! Therefore i trusted him well

As last week i went to EM, the SA told me to take a tour around the lake, as its reopened, from there i can closely look on the on going process.
I seen some digging on the lake, they maybe expanding the lake, reshaping, or i dont know ... but the house is no where in near completion. Currently its on 2E billing stage. So i went to ask the SA, he said its near impossible to deliver it on Q2 april, mostly somewhere in june/july.
Then i kepoh on cradleton, he said postponed to march/april as they wanna make sure the quality and some issues to settle before vp... and i ask about backlane, he said there will be plants on the backlane but i didnt ask in detailed, what type of plants, how they plant it, will there be planter box or not, etc etc lo

But dont trust me and my SA la
better that u guys trust your ownself as buyer and your SA lo
its only take a few seconds to pick up the phone and text your SA and answer will be minutes away...
its your investment, your should ask for your ownself right?




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absolutely
believe only in your own judge
call to verify or walk in to see site progress is the best
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 09:38 AM)
( regarding to honest tan, his source maybe the video on the gallery big monitor? if yes then the video was made somewhere in aug 2016, which the info might not very accurate lo )

hahaha
i dont know la if my SA kelentong me or not
But if u ask me, i am 100% trust my SA
here is why...

as mentioned earlier, im first time buying a house, therefore for all these months, at least once a month ill go in EM
1. to check on my home, i enjoy seeing it from land to structure and painted etc, etc
2. checking on each and every in and exit, timing all distance to schools, workplace, airpot, malls, etc
3. the main reason is to talk with my SA !!! lol

in fact, i have 2 SA,
1st the normal SA which help me thru all the buying process
2ndly is the SA which in charge of tenderfield buyers, the SA did emailed me free movie tickets,
whatsapp me all the on going events in EW, and will help do reservation if im interested to attend..

Now back to the normal SA,
I throw alot of question to this SA
the SA patiently explained each and every of my quentions in detailed. I was so noob that i dont even know what is VP last time. lol
We also talked on renovation ( to do list ), designs, materials, contractors, apps for reference, brands of electrical appliances, etc, and etc ( as he got 2x experince in reno his own house ). I was once being quoted by 2 ID company for my whole house cabinets, which is 160k and 185k respectively. This SA introduced me another ID as reference, i called and ask them quote, its only 130k, another 10% discount upon confirmation and after site measurment.
This SA helped me alot !!! Therefore i trusted him well

As last week i went to EM, the SA told me to take a tour around the lake, as its reopened, from there i can closely look on the on going process.
I seen some digging on the lake, they maybe expanding the lake, reshaping, or i dont know ... but the house is no where in near completion. Currently its on 2E billing stage. So i went to ask the SA, he said its near impossible to deliver it on Q2 april, mostly somewhere in june/july.
Then i kepoh on cradleton, he said postponed to march/april as they wanna make sure the quality and some issues to settle before vp... and i ask about backlane, he said there will be plants on the backlane but i didnt ask in detailed, what type of plants, how they plant it, will there be planter box or not, etc etc lo

But dont trust me and my SA la
better that u guys trust your ownself as buyer and your SA lo
its only take a few seconds to pick up the phone and text your SA and answer will be minutes away...
its your investment, your should ask for your ownself right?
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Actually I guess the presentation are old since appreciation dinner also.

Somebody are high and ego and blind last night.
He support EW like his god dy.

I simply want him to show how blind and.how nonesense he is.

The more he talk, the higher stupidity level he shown.

Anyway, his stupid level is high until I ledge him to say stupid things.he feel nothing.

So my intention is to show public what he.could say, not to enlighten him.

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i think honest tan is pure investor
he dont really mind on the actual vp date
hes more keen on finished product and value of the property ..
unlike me, i bought for own stay, therefore i very keen to visit em monthly
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 10:02 AM)
i think honest tan is pure investor
he dont really mind on the actual vp date
hes more keen on finished product and value of the property ..
unlike me, i bought for own stay, therefore i very keen to visit em monthly
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By the way, did you attend the talk?
There is a new throne videos updated and showing during the talk?
If yes, I want to go kepoh check out the videos le.
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i did not
i just pay my monthly visit to EM
talked to SA
took 4 packets angpow
took a tour to the lake for tenderfield view
then back jor
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 09:16 AM)
nice bro
to know u are very much experienced guys
so in future if anything wrong happened to tenderfield, at least u can help out a bit lor
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Both lick EW Ball here,
i know Honesty tan is the one of the EW SA .
He won't help ...
Only cover EW Ass !!!!
How experience he is ? How he can influential Government to take action again EW underdeliver stuff ?



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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 09:38 AM)
( regarding to honest tan, his source maybe the video on the gallery big monitor? if yes then the video was made somewhere in aug 2016, which the info might not very accurate lo )

hahaha
i dont know la if my SA kelentong me or not
But if u ask me, i am 100% trust my SA
here is why...

as mentioned earlier, im first time buying a house, therefore for all these months, at least once a month ill go in EM
1. to check on my home, i enjoy seeing it from land to structure and painted etc, etc
2. checking on each and every in and exit, timing all distance to schools, workplace, airpot, malls, etc
3. the main reason is to talk with my SA !!! lol

in fact, i have 2 SA,
1st the normal SA which help me thru all the buying process
2ndly is the SA which in charge of tenderfield buyers, the SA did emailed me free movie tickets,
whatsapp me all the on going events in EW, and will help do reservation if im interested to attend..

Now back to the normal SA,
I throw alot of question to this SA
the SA patiently explained each and every of my quentions in detailed. I was so noob that i dont even know what is VP last time. lol
We also talked on renovation ( to do list ), designs, materials, contractors, apps for reference, brands of electrical appliances, etc, and etc ( as he got 2x experince in reno his own house ). I was once being quoted by 2 ID company for my whole house cabinets, which is 160k and 185k respectively. This SA introduced me another ID as reference, i called and ask them quote, its only 130k, another 10% discount upon confirmation and after site measurment.
This SA helped me alot !!! Therefore i trusted him well

As last week i went to EM, the SA told me to take a tour around the lake, as its reopened, from there i can closely look on the on going process.
I seen some digging on the lake, they maybe expanding the lake, reshaping, or i dont know ... but the house is no where in near completion. Currently its on 2E billing stage. So i went to ask the SA, he said its near impossible to deliver it on Q2 april, mostly somewhere in june/july.
Then i kepoh on cradleton, he said postponed to march/april as they wanna make sure the quality and some issues to settle before vp... and i ask about backlane, he said there will be plants on the backlane but i didnt ask in detailed, what type of plants, how they plant it, will there be planter box or not, etc etc lo

But dont trust me and my SA la
better that u guys trust your ownself as buyer and your SA lo
its only take a few seconds to pick up the phone and text your SA and answer will be minutes away...
its your investment, your should ask for your ownself right?
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Now i know , u r not buyer here ,
you come in just want to promote ur ID company !!!!!
That Why u so protect EW !!!!


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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Jan 17 2017, 10:39 AM)
Both lick  EW Ball here,
i know Honesty tan is the one of the EW SA .
He won't help ...
Only cover EW Ass !!!!
How experience he is ? How he can influential Government to take action again EW underdeliver stuff ?
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Can, by play stupid, talk stupid stuffs to confuse others and.blur the focus.
Then insult and personal attack everyone raising questions to EW.

After that play innocent.
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 09:16 AM)
nice bro
to know u are very much experienced guys
so in future if anything wrong happened to tenderfield, at least u can help out a bit lor
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Haha, not experienced la.

I was long time in LYN many many years ago, it just that i forgot the login/pw after being overseas for 1-2 years.

Being lazy and use a new Account straight away, as I don't really active in this virtual world.

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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Jan 17 2017, 10:39 AM)
Both lick  EW Ball here,
i know Honesty tan is the one of the EW SA .
He won't help ...
Only cover EW Ass !!!!
How experience he is ? How he can influential Government to take action again EW underdeliver stuff ?
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How you know honesty tan is the EW SA?

I swear to god I'm not EW SA, and I'm just a pure EM property buyer like many of you.

Here you eat your sins and lick own balls by no proof.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 17 2017, 10:12 AM)
By the way, did you attend the talk?
There is a new throne videos updated and showing during the talk?
If yes, I want to go kepoh check out the videos le.
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Just to clarify a lil bit, it is not a video that shown on the screen, but 1-Page slide deck that tells the latest VPed date.

Logically, if they communicated out the dates in just last Sunday, it would be the latest/updated one else we should wonder why they gave information that is not accurate/up-to-date.

Even there is a discrepancy or ppl choose not to believe, should encourage them to go and validate/verify and come back and tell us the accurate one.

Still that word.. don't be SHY laaaa... it's not rocket science to ask about the VP date thou...

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People in this thread has gone crazy. Started to have some kind of imaginary spy/enemy/SA/ID promoter. shakehead.gif
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People in this thread has gone crazy. Started to have some kind of imaginary spy/enemy/SA/ID promoter.  shakehead.gif
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Yes they thought everyone being neutral/non-buyer/praise EW is ball lickers and even EW SA. How funny.

And still, they don't do the needing parts as buyer to fight for it, thus till to-date it is not getting further development/outcomes (after 6 months lapsed).

We heard enough of the same complaints, but no constructive way to get it resolved.

And here I advocate Diver Lim and the Dog to go to EW office with me, to talk about the back lane issue, and to come back and tell forumers that whether I'm the EW SA or not.

I doubt if they will show up for you guys to judge.

One is shy and one is just doggy perhaps.

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I'm not Cradleton buyers, but I willing to extend my helps here to link Diver Lim and Dog to talk to EW management.

Two simple agendas:

1. Back Lane
2. Verify if I'm EW SA on the spot.

Can you RSVP? Diver Lim and Dog?
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 17 2017, 12:11 PM)
I'm not Cradleton buyers, but I willing to extend my helps here to link Diver Lim and Dog to talk to EW management.

Two simple agendas:

1. Back Lane
2. Verify if I'm EW SA on the spot.

Can you RSVP? Diver Lim and Dog?
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You first figure out Staff/ "black/white", which one are reliable source to trust first before convince us to trust any of their reply again.


We have talk about how confusing, inconsistent and not reliable information we are getting everytime we talk to them. The same day you attempt to play hero, on the same say even a simple VP date also blur you so much dy, you think before you talk. You never think before you thought that's why you so high and ego all the time.

Self claim intelligence and the intelligence judgment itself have faild you and you still not ashame about yourself, what should we expect from you?

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QUOTE(DIVING LO @ Jan 17 2017, 12:45 PM)
Diver Lim, u always said EW said nice mean nice

So if EW said u handsome mean handsome?

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wahh tis is diver lim? how u get his pic?
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QUOTE(DIVING LO @ Jan 17 2017, 12:45 PM)
Diver Lim, u always said EW said nice mean nice

So if EW said u handsome mean handsome?

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It's fine if somebody keep shifting this to personal and not releasing posting personal image without permission are not ethical.

I have shared many of my information all this long and I won't expect EW doesn't know my identity and I am not hiding.

Mamy.forumers even have my personal FB account and the account a re registered with personal email.

If every body think what he doing is something to encourage, what could I say?

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Hey guys, please restrain yourself. No personal attack and labelling. If need be, will close the thread to cool off.
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EW said handsome marrrrrr

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Hey guys, please restrain yourself.  No personal attack and labelling.  If need be, will close the thread to cool off.
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pls close this thread. what that guy has done by posting the photo is totally unacceptable.
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Wah...until create a new account just to expose a fellow forummer. Is this the kopitiam section??

Jasoncat, tutup only..lol. Discussions not even discussions anymore. Becoming an online keyboard war
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+1. No personal attack.
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No personal attack here.
Please remove pic of dive lim .
Don't be gangster here.
Else, i will be very powerful here.
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I don't mind to share my kopitiam troll thread for the irrational keyboard war.. Not the first time anyway.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3468651/+60

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I don't mind to share my kopitiam troll thread for the irrational keyboard war.. Not the first time anyway..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3468651/+60
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Sam kor, i may missed the trails, so estimate VP date for Tenderfield will be on ?
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I would advise Cradleton buyers who still have concern about the capability of developer to deliver the landscape to continue raise your concern without shifting the focus and fear.

Somebody jump up and convert the discussion into irritation figh, it doesn't mean all your concerns have then became irritation.
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its not hatred, we cant expect everyone to follow mainstream info, so i guess that adds spices .....lets agree to disagree smile.gif
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hahaha i think i better be like before, just follow silently
only a few post and already being labelled as licker and ID company
lol

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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 01:56 PM)
hahaha i think i better be like before, just follow silently
only a few post and already being labelled as licker and ID company
lol
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Actually here also many others buyers are still have strong faith with developers or neutral standing. Not all being labeled lickers.

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I see
since its my investment as a home, ill surely support EW at the moment
but if its not up to par upon vp, definitely ill join in the protest
i bought the 2F at 1.4mil + planned 250k reno + 1mil interest for 30years, ill surely hope em will deliver me the best possible product
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The tread look hot until v15 but the demand of rental , subsales totally different
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No personal attack here.
Please remove pic of dive lim .
Don't be gangster here.
Else, i will be very powerful here.
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Agreed. We don't need gangsterism @ here, we need a good lead to help us channel and follow up with EW in due diligence.




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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 01:56 PM)
hahaha i think i better be like before, just follow silently
only a few post and already being labelled as licker and ID company
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yes im also follow silently (especially on other forums) until i see diver lim here.

his problem is not solved, and will never solve, if continue to grumpy here and pointing fingers to numerous others who doesn't complain as much as him.


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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 17 2017, 02:00 PM)
Actually here also many others buyers are still have strong faith with developers or neutral standing. Not all being labeled lickers.
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Already poor enough if you label anyone as EW Ass Licker.

In fact, people will appreciate more if you share/contribute what you had done as Cradleton buyer to help them improve the back lanes.

Even you had, unwilling to share further and challenge what others are sharing may not fit the purpose and serve the spirits in LYN.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 17 2017, 12:17 PM)
You first figure out Staff/ "black/white", which one are reliable source to trust first before convince us to trust any of their reply again.
We have talk about how confusing, inconsistent and not reliable information we are getting everytime we talk to them. The same day you attempt to play hero, on the same say even a simple VP date also blur you so much dy, you think before you talk. You never think before you thought that's why you so high and ego all the time.

Self claim intelligence and the intelligence judgment itself have faild you and you still not ashame about yourself, what should we expect from you?
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Sorry but you seem having difficulty to understand the points by me and tenderfield.

Just talk on the VPed date,

1. you said you doesn't care about the VPed date.
2. you doesn't trust and putting blames to our shared VPed date, even it was shared by EW (through difference sources)
3. you doesnt' want to validate/verify it by yourselves, knowing the discrepancy, and keep blaming others.

Afterall, VPed date is a moving target/trending which is a relative of execution versus target, binds in legal commitments.

And yet,

you urged others to complain but you do not want to participate to discuss the backlane with EW and remains confusing here? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm not joking with you, I can really help you to link to talk to their AGM/Managers to address your concerns in backlanes/variety of plants.

you may not trust me but you should trust yourself by delivering the message you want, to the EW directly.

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interesting...how u manage to get his pic ?
hmm hehehe
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 17 2017, 02:07 PM)
I see
since its my investment as a home, ill surely support EW at the moment
but if its not up to par upon vp, definitely ill join in the protest
i bought the 2F at 1.4mil + planned 250k reno  + 1mil interest for 30years, ill surely hope em will deliver me the best possible product
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Yes bro, definitely fine whether you supported EW, or do not want to support EW in the future. We have consumer rights to choose our vendors and products.

They are just a piece of biz entity and trade based on exchanged of goods & services.

Tenderfileds definitely has an upper hand and deemed as good buy, anyhow it will be your good stay also. The decision made at that point of time, is the best decision you could made. Frankly speaking, if affordable, we should have forward looking exercise to purchase landed assets in Semi-D and Bungalow, as land is scarce.

I do think EW staffs deserved the motivations to improve all aspects/projects they had in hands. Not sure their pay-scale/comp & ben, but personally I do appreciate their response to spend time finding best available information to our questions.

Some decisions, were actually beyond their knowledge/controls; especially on the final decisions, which usually affects the final outcomes.

SA, they may or may not cares.

Hence I advocate to always put the influence/negotiations to the right parties/decision makers, if we are not satisfied with the deliverable.

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wonder will Yvonne be there during VP time

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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Jan 17 2017, 04:39 PM)
interesting...how u manage to get his pic ?
hmm hehehe
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HONESTY tan steal the photo?
人格不好, no point to talk so much.
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interesting...how u manage to get his pic ?
hmm hehehe
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Bro quicksilver, you mean the VPed pic?

It was taken using my hp, when they presented on 15/01/17 (Sunday), PM, before they start the talk.

And, I see no wrong for EW to keep us informed of their latest development schedules, from time to time.

I'm just one of participants to comprehend further from the appointed tax specialists, on how the gov budget would affect us. It was a good talk though, and uplifted my knowledge, on intrinsic reasons of jib gor's initiatives.

Anyone of us can just save that photo, and ask EW in WhatsApp or FB; whether the date is still intact, or it has already pushed out.

Simple as that.

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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Jan 17 2017, 04:51 PM)
HONESTY tan steal the photo?
人格不好, no point to talk so much.
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Another gunner? Hehe

Tell me how we can steal the pic from the screen?

It's ok, you take the sin, not me.


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wonder will Yvonne be there during VP time
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She better be there. Nice or not, she is the right party to answer. I dont believe either talking with SA and eating dumplings together will help to improve backlanes.

To improve or not, really depends on EW effort. Its not that you complain only they gonna improve.
Final product tells everything.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 17 2017, 01:00 PM)
You are the one shy, not me.
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No need so serious la Diver Lim, bro Snapback is just joking. I thought you said you won't entertain it anymore.

Let's come back by not shifting the topic. notworthy.gif

How's the appointment/F2F with EW to talk on the back lane?

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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Jan 17 2017, 04:55 PM)
She better be there. Nice or not, she is the right party to answer. I dont believe either talking with SA and eating dumplings together will help to improve backlanes.

To improve or not, really depends on EW effort. Its not that you complain only they gonna improve.
Final product tells everything.
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u guys really resourceful smile.gif salute !! rclxm9.gif
anyways...dats 1 of the consequences of being too gungho to attract attention from the rest...oops i better shutup now smile.gif doh.gif

yup hope she be there, better still la...let us know which part of tenderfield she is in...she can go find her during CNY thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Jan 17 2017, 04:59 PM)
u guys really resourceful smile.gif salute !! rclxm9.gif
anyways...dats 1 of the consequences of being too gungho to attract attention from the rest...oops i better shutup now smile.gif doh.gif

yup hope she be there, better still la...let us know which part of tenderfield she is in...she can go find her during CNY  thumbup.gif
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The reason he can find is because I am not hiding.
Should I afraid and hide?

I revealed so much of my information, you thought EW can't identify me?

Many forumers here have my personal FB account too by the way.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 17 2017, 05:05 PM)
The reason he can find is because I am not hiding.
Should I afraid and hide?

I revealed so much of my information, you thought EW can't identify me?
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what personal information you had revealed while you don't even wanna reveal what you had complaint to SA on backlane?

So either your communication is not effective, or you are shy to ask them lor.

Maybe one day.. one powerful forumer helped you to ask and solve it for you, but then you don't blame him/her ahhh for asking for you, can ahh?

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good luck to us all
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off work lo
good luck to us all
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this is what we called as work life balance,

get pay to buy semi-D and able to back on time. hehe

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a lot has been said by diff parties...well all i can say is, the truth is subjective to everyone

anyways...wonder will Merrydale VP be like....delay as well...hmm
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off work lo
good luck to us all
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By the way, if not mistaken tenderfield units don't have any backlane right?
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By the way, if not mistaken tenderfield units don't have any backlane right?
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Correct, that's why we don't have the chance to nag about it ... sad.gif
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 17 2017, 01:08 PM)
Yes they thought everyone being neutral/non-buyer/praise EW is ball lickers and even EW SA. How funny.

And still, they don't do the needing parts as buyer to fight for it, thus till to-date it is not getting further development/outcomes (after 6 months lapsed).

We heard enough of the same complaints, but no constructive way to get it resolved.

And here I advocate Diver Lim and the Dog to go to EW office with me, to talk about the back lane issue, and to come back and tell forumers that whether I'm the EW SA or not.

I doubt if they will show up for you guys to judge.

One is shy and one is just doggy perhaps.

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I think and many other also think u are SA.

Period.
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this is what we called as work life balance,

get pay to buy semi-D and able to back on time. hehe

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U are someone dupe too. It is so obvious.
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jan 17 2017, 10:27 PM)
I think and many other also think u are SA.

Period.
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I think and many other also think u are duped/fooled by me as EW SA.

It is so obvious that you think im EW SA.

P/s: please don't shift the topic. We should focus on the back lanes now bro.

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Yeah, so you are duped/fooled by me already as EW SA.
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Wah still not yet insaf?

人格不好, no point to talk so much.
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Wah still not yet insaf?

人格不好, no point to talk so much.
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Ohh, based on your logics;

If I think you 人格不好, then you have no point to talk so much.

Still not insaf?

P/s: please don't shift the topic. We should focus on the back lanes now bro.

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Wah still not yet insaf?

人格不好, no point to talk so much.
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Let's come back and discuss or sharing on issues everybody... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Let's start the day with no nonsense and don't make it a trolling ground here.
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this is what we called as work life balance,

get pay to buy semi-D and able to back on time. hehe

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hahaha
just a small trick that i use on my workers
normally ill be back after 15mins from them
and ill reach office before 8am
by doing so, my workers seldom punch in late and seldom take leave
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i think u can inform admin to check on Diving Lo and all that IP registered account to be banned..
its really unethically to post and disclose personal data
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btw, i have question for tenderfield buyers
since we have only 4feet fencing, and alarm system been provided by developer
do u guys still install cctv? or any other alarm systems?
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btw, i have question for tenderfield buyers
since we have only 4feet fencing, and alarm system been provided by developer
do u guys still install cctv? or any other alarm systems?
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Yes , i will install both of my tenderfield
i can expected Bad neighbor around,

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Yes , i will install both of my tenderfield
i can expected Bad neighbor around,
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Not sure about lastest technology now.
Always switch off the alarm 24/7 after few months even installed.
Motion sensors, rat running rooftop alert,
Windows and door, if winds and rain stronger also alert.

The new system are smarter now?

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agree. anybody with more progress photos to share? I am.sure this is what buyers are most concern about for the time being.
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btw, i have question for tenderfield buyers
since we have only 4feet fencing, and alarm system been provided by developer
do u guys still install cctv? or any other alarm systems?
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cctv yes. in case u have nasty neighbours. alarm optional with proper g&g.
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i think u can inform admin to check on Diving Lo and all that IP registered account to be banned..
its really unethically to post and disclose personal data
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This I agreed. FYI got two forummers PM'ed me with Uncle Lim's photo with some remarks and FB link.

Not sure about their purposes but I'm not interested at all. Unless it is lenglui pic.

Meanwhile, I had a short call this morning to them and asked if they would want to meet Diver Lim, for being extremely dissatisfied in LYN with EW.

They agreed that some buyers are just very SHY to ASK..

The response I got for now is, they are aware but not up to a level that wanna invest time/resources for channel that deeem informal. And suggested to have F2F discussion or CALL to clear out whatever doubts, without over guessing but not getting anywhere.

Also being told that they reserve the rights to take legal action(s) on defame statements which damaging company's reputation, slander or libel; be it in FB or other form of communications.

Sekian. smile.gif

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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jan 18 2017, 10:44 AM)
This I agreed. FYI got two forummers PM'ed me with Uncle Lim's photo with some remarks and FB link.

Not sure about their purposes but I'm not interested at all. Unless it is lenglui pic.

Meanwhile, I had a short call this morning to them and asked if they would want to meet Diver Lim, for being extremely dissatisfied in LYN with EW.

They agreed that some buyers are just very SHY to ASK..

The response I got for now is, they are aware but not up to a level that wanna invest time/resources for channel that deeem informal. And suggested to have F2F discussion or CALL to clear out whatever doubts, without over guessing but not getting anywhere.

Also being told that they reserve the rights to take legal action(s) on defame statements which damaging company's reputation, slander or libel; be it in FB or other form of communications.

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Not something new. It's not like we don't know who we are talking to. Example I know who are you also, but does it very important?.do I have to share your info to those.doesn't like you also?
I receive Bearbearwong photos and info too when I still standing on EW before more and more site progress photos and nearer to VP date and also before I received inconsistent reply everytime and before my attempts to get more information and details about landscape have failed. We were here before many many versions and many are dissatisfied felt exactly and.experienced exactly the same.

I even have one manager to check and call me back to clarify about water features at entrance rounabout things. Sadly he couldn't provide further information other than that.

Unfair to us to talk about SHY to ask. We just not asking ANYMORE. Instead of listen another sales talk, we believe more on what we are seeing. Perhaps you are noy following the trail long enough.

It's not like we didn't get landscape photo from not mainstream source time to time.

Information we got from none mainstream source are.more than we keep begging for update and answer.


The "Over Expectations and price different" sort of things I really heard it myself from the sales staffs in EW gallery after the completion of the EM interchange.
That's why we gather all information nd.commitment that buyers receive to seek what's the fair expectations.

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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 18 2017, 09:11 AM)
btw, i have question for tenderfield buyers
since we have only 4feet fencing, and alarm system been provided by developer
do u guys still install cctv? or any other alarm systems?
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CCTV is typically "good to have", and served as post-measure/to hedge against unwanted intrusions.

FYI,

Alarm system monitoring is transitioning from landline (phone/IP PABX), to Broadband + Cellular for seamless control and monitoring.

Here are some of the different components that are crucial in security systems:

The panel - ensure this is not battery-powered but connected to your 3-phase EL in tenderfields
The external sirens - make sure the installation is concealing the wirings so that ppl can't purpose cut it (in guarded community they used external and in traditional household they used internal sirens)
The motion detectors - extremely important to have one at stair/hallways. also available in pet immune varieties, if you have dogs/cats that keep running at night, haha
The magnetic door & window sensors
The vibration sensors - sometimes is just too sensitve, may not need it.
The broken glass sensors - i only see this @ overseas, but yet to see/find a prominent one in malaysia.
The keypad - available as LED, LCD, and with potential wireless capability, getting more common in Internet-of-things (IoT) Era.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 18 2017, 11:04 AM)
Not something new. It's not like we don't know who we are talking to. Example I know who are you also, but does it very important?.do I have to share your info to those.doesn't like you also?
I receive Bearbearwong photos and info too when I still standing on EW before more and more site progress photos and nearer to VP date and also before I received inconsistent reply everytime and before my attempts to get more information and details about landscape have failed. We were here before many many versions and many are dissatisfied felt exactly and.experienced exactly the same.

Unfair to us to talk about SHY to ask. We just not asking ANYMORE. Instead of listen another sales talk, we believe more on what we are seeing. Perhaps you are noy following the trail long enough.

It's not like we didn't get landscape photo from not mainstream source time to time.

Information we got from none mainstream source are.more than.we.keep begging for update.
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Sorry but I really see same styles of iterating same problems, but not wanting to put up efforts/related proposals to fight against your/our rights.

Hmmm... Like it or not, what happened in the past or last 6 months is already proven not working (one may read again from ver.1 to ver.15+ but we already end up what we conclude here). No point to actually look back, but manage our future.

You know I'm quite consistent to advocate you to protest and lead the discussion (with others) to have an open discussion with EW, to see what can be done and what cannot be done. On those cannot be done, escalate up next level and see if it can be done. If still cannot, there must be some workarounds whereby EW would be happy to strike a win-win solution with the residents. That is one structured approach if you haven't tried to do so. Have you and till which level?

Yes, We believe what we are seeing - we complaint what we want to complaint, but what's the next steps?
Remain confusing here, blaming others who supported EW, restrict non-buyer who does not fit your purpose/flavor, or un-friend neighbors that they think differently? I DON'T THINK that's gathering fair expectations from others. - In business management, there is a said of "we accept what we can't control, but we fight for what we can control, without killing other messengers. :confused: :confused:

not asking ANYMORE - sounds more like GIVING UP. If you had ASKED enuf, I believe we would be interested to know what's your path findings, response from EW/EM, and what sort of contents so that we could embrace and take as retrospect to improve our stands when press/stress them mid or after VP. Sad to note, so far there is nearly ZERO details shared here and not even written letter of it, I suppose.

you may not attend their talks, you may not eat their foods, you may not want to go and talk about the back lanes - but choose to sit here blaming others who attended or asked the SA.

Most of time, you may appreciate 1st information you obtained, be it from non-mainstream and mainstream, analyze and decipher yourself, as that's basic thinking every individuals should have, and what LYN and other forums is all about.

P/S: Just to make it transparent and clear, you do not know who am I. You cannot share my pic or info here just because you don't have it. Having said so, I don't mind you come out and we meet together at their office to talk about your back lanes, and if you want to my photo you also can take during that session. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Cheers

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During the call, they even asked if can screenshot on which page/replies of Diver Lim, which has strong elements of complaints/incorrect facts.

I just replied sorry, I'm not paid to do petty job for both parties but encourage both to meet and talk.

Sekian for Diver Lim.

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Sorry but I really see same styles of iterating same problems, but not wanting to put up efforts/related proposals to fight against your/our rights.

Hmmm... Like it or not, what happened in the past or last 6 months is already proven not working (one may read again from ver.1 to ver.15+ but we already end up what we conclude here). No point to actually look back, but manage our future.

You know I'm quite consistent to advocate you to protest and lead the discussion (with others) to have an open discussion with EW, to see what can be done and what cannot be done. On those cannot be done, escalate up next level and see if it can be done. If still cannot, there must be some workarounds whereby EW would be happy to strike a win-win solution with the residents. That is one structured approach if you haven't tried to do so. Have you and till which level?

Yes, We believe what we are seeing - we complaint what we want to complaint, but what's the next steps?
Remain confusing here, blaming others who supported EW, restrict non-buyer who does not fit your purpose/flavor, or un-friend neighbors that they think differently? - In business management, there is a said of "we accept what we can't control, but we fight for what we can control, without killing other messengers.  :confused:  :confused:

not asking ANYMORE - sounds more like GIVING UP. If you had ASKED enuf, I believe we would be interested to know what's your path findings, response from EW/EM, and what sort of contents so that we could embrace and take as retrospect to improve our stands when press/stress them mid or after VP. Sad to note, so far there is nearly ZERO details shared here and not even written letter of it, I suppose. 

Most of time, you may appreciate 1st information you obtained, be it from non-mainstream and mainstream, analyze and decipher yourself, as that's basic thinking every individuals should have, and what LYN and other forums is all about. 

P/S: Just to make it transparent and clear, you do not know who am I. You cannot share my pic or info here just because you don't have it. Having said so, I don't mind you come out and we meet together with EM SA at their office to talk about your back lanes, then if you want to my photo you take during that session.  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif

Cheers
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first i thought that we have g&g and alarm system will be enough but after all feedbacks from u guys, i think i should go for cctv and all those censor things as to prevent bad neighbors, maid transporter, etc...

then what about 2nd water tank? since we always have shortage of water ...
will 2nd water tank increase the water pressure? do we need to install water jet pump?
as i heard from my friend, water jet pump is good for rain shower, and save time and money when the washing machine is filling up water much more faster. is it true?
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Sorry but I really see same styles of iterating same problems, but not wanting to put up efforts/related proposals to fight against your/our rights.

Hmmm... Like it or not, what happened in the past or last 6 months is already proven not working (one may read again from ver.1 to ver.15+ but we already end up what we conclude here). No point to actually look back, but manage our future.

You know I'm quite consistent to advocate you to protest and lead the discussion (with others) to have an open discussion with EW, to see what can be done and what cannot be done. On those cannot be done, escalate up next level and see if it can be done. If still cannot, there must be some workarounds whereby EW would be happy to strike a win-win solution with the residents. That is one structured approach if you haven't tried to do so. Have you and till which level?

Yes, We believe what we are seeing - we complaint what we want to complaint, but what's the next steps?
Remain confusing here, blaming others who supported EW, restrict non-buyer who does not fit your purpose/flavor, or un-friend neighbors that they think differently? I DON'T THINK that's gathering fair expectations from others.  - In business management, there is a said of "we accept what we can't control, but we fight for what we can control, without killing other messengers.  :confused:  :confused:

not asking ANYMORE - sounds more like GIVING UP. If you had ASKED enuf, I believe we would be interested to know what's your path findings, response from EW/EM, and what sort of contents so that we could embrace and take as retrospect to improve our stands when press/stress them mid or after VP. Sad to note, so far there is nearly ZERO details shared here and not even written letter of it, I suppose. 

you may not attend their talks, you may not eat their foods, you may not want to go and talk about the back lanes - but choose to sit here blaming others who attended or asked the SA.

Most of time, you may appreciate 1st information you obtained, be it from non-mainstream and mainstream, analyze and decipher yourself, as that's basic thinking every individuals should have, and what LYN and other forums is all about. 

P/S: Just to make it transparent and clear, you do not know who am I. You cannot share my pic or info here just because you don't have it. Having said so, I don't mind you come out and we meet together at their office to talk about your back lanes, and if you want to my photo you also can take during that session.  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif

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Does that mean if he know who you are he can simply post yoyr photo here? Snap others photo and post without permission is just a joke that you encouraged? So nothing?

Not hard to know you are. Does Diver really have to post it on forum?
Discuss is discuss.
The act of Snapback is not ethical.

** yes, all we concern now is official update on site progress photos, if EW have some nice photos please share to ease our concerns.

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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Jan 18 2017, 12:54 PM)
Does that mean if he know who you are he can simply post yoyr photo here? Snap others photo and post without permission is just a joke that you encouraged? So nothing?

Not hard to know you are. Does Diver really have to post it on forum?
Discuss is discuss.
The act of Snapback is not ethical.

** yes, all we concern now is official update on site progress photos, if EW have some nice photos please share to ease our concerns.
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Me managing IT before and now in Mgmt, not hard to know everyone's ID and basic info e.g. name as long they registered with tagging. I can even share with you how to hack the Apps. But, technically I will be surprise if anyone can PM me my photo, as that's something which I think beyond IT. Even so, I m happy to meet you f2f to get more personal touch.

If you read my message correctly, I do not encourage that hence I did not do that and urged not to do that, even others sent his pic and fb link to me. As in today's world, it just costs rm3-4k of OTC to get a good lawyer to showcause on defame/data infringement and sent to your residential address. You'll know what I'm talking about if you worked in corporate before.

*Frankly speaking, I don't know who is Diver LO and Snapchat. Let's talk about the back lanes that concerns you the most.

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Now i see why there's a potential need for cctv at everyone's own units judging by the way u guys go at each other in this thread. sweat.gif
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Now i see why there's a potential need for cctv at everyone's own units judging by the way u guys go at each other in this thread. sweat.gif
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Everyone is the suspicions of BAD neighbours. Lol.
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Funny bro, that's not even correct . I should be wearing SA shirt as you may think.

Again Diver Lim has many time/efforts for periherals/petty things and blaming many others, but not even want to talk back on the back lanes.

When are we going to meet with EW F2F? I'm quite transparent actually.
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Good that you deleted what you said just now and leaving a dot. Else, it served a black and white for my chronology filing and records.

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Now i see why there's a potential need for cctv at everyone's own units judging by the way u guys go at each other in this thread. sweat.gif
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Without the CCTV,

Imagine if one day the rain waters flow from your house to Uncle's house, through eco-slope, I'm afraid you'll get blamed by pouring the waters.
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Good that you deleted what you said just now and leaving a dot. Else, it served a black and white for my chronology filing and records.
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I were telling you I have PM you..that also serve Balck and White?
After I think better stop.everything that would troll things here again so I deleted.

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I were telling you I have PM you..that also serve Balck and White?
After I think better stop.everything that would troll things here again so I deleted.
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bro, I only use PM to talk to girls. Always please come back to your favorite back lanes.

Can share the findings? Until which level the escalation and the outcomes? This time don't shift k.

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i think honesty tan been too harsh already on diver lim
take it easy bro

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Me managing IT before and now in Mgmt, not hard to know everyone's ID and basic info e.g. name as long they registered with tagging. I can even share with you how to hack the Apps. But, technically I will be surprise if anyone can PM me my photo, as that's something which I think beyond IT. Even so, I m happy to meet you f2f to get more personal touch.

If you read my message correctly, I do not encourage that hence I did not do that and urged not to do that, even others sent his pic and fb link to me. As in today's world, it just costs rm3-4k of OTC to get a good lawyer to showcause on defame/data infringement and sent to your residential address. You'll know what I'm talking about if you worked in corporate before.

*Frankly speaking, I don't know who is Diver LO and Snapchat. Let's talk about the back lanes that concerns you the most.
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Mari berehat sebentar tengok EcoWorld Grand Annual Dinner 2016

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4178543
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4178543
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Are those for internal staff only or for customers?
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Are those for internal staff only or for customers?
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 18 2017, 12:47 PM)
first i thought that we have g&g and alarm system will be enough but after all feedbacks from u guys, i think i should go for cctv and all those censor things as to prevent bad neighbors, maid transporter, etc...

then what about 2nd water tank? since we always have shortage of water ...
will 2nd water tank increase the water pressure? do we need to install water jet pump?
as i heard from my friend, water jet pump is good for rain shower, and save time and money when the washing machine is filling up water much more faster. is it true?
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I will definetely install a water pump. Need a good water pressure to enjoy my shower.

How about security grill for windows?
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I will definetely install a water pump. Need a good water pressure to enjoy my shower.

How about security grill for windows?
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Be careful install water pump, your piping all may bocor.
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I will definetely install a water pump. Need a good water pressure to enjoy my shower.

How about security grill for windows?
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thats my concern as well
hahaha

1. there is huge windows on living room and ground floor room which access to the garden. kind of hard to do internal grill but if did, it may seems very ugly
2. i pay rm 500+ maintenance fee plus alarm system from developer , cctv and censor systems by ourself , seems to me already very secured ...
if we put grill , it may look like bank vault or prison cell ( nothing much diff compare to a normal g&g housing area ). eventually i dont need to choose em after all right?

that is my concern and i cant decide yet on grill too
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Be careful install water pump, your piping all may bocor.
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why is that? how we can check on this?
what type of piping will bocor and what type will not ?

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thats my concern as well
hahaha

1. there is huge windows on living room and ground floor room which access to the garden. kind of hard to do internal grill but if did, it may seems very ugly
2. i pay rm 500+ maintenance fee plus alarm system from developer , cctv and censor systems by ourself , seems to me already very secured ...
if we put grill , it may look like bank vault or prison cell ( nothing much diff compare to a normal g&g housing area ). eventually i dont need to choose em after all right?

that is my concern and i cant decide yet on grill too
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I think grill for main doors can install but for windows it depends.
Reason for grill for main doors is sometime if we didn't switch on air-cond, the door should be open and it's like totally naked.

At least there is a grill if when we leave the door open.

For windows if you want.you may consider those invisible grill, grill are In between the grass or something if I am not mistaken, of course it should be quite costly.

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its a good point to consider as well
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I think grill for main doors can install but for windows it depends.
Reason for grill for main doors is sometime if we didn't switch on air-cond, the door should be open and it's like totally naked.

At least there is a grill if when we leave the door open.

For windows if you want.you may consider those invisible grill, grill are In between the grass or something if I am not mistaken,  of course it should be quite costly.
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suggest to install fly wire or mozzie net instead of grilles.....

pay so much for gng still need to grill this and that.........
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 19 2017, 10:43 AM)
I think grill for main doors can install but for windows it depends.
Reason for grill for main doors is sometime if we didn't switch on air-cond, the door should be open and it's like totally naked.

At least there is a grill if when we leave the door open.

For windows if you want.you may consider those invisible grill, grill are In between the grass or something if I am not mistaken,  of course it should be quite costly.
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u can install those security doors... way more secure... and looks classier than ordinary wooden door... that my own view... but the quality of the door and the locks very secure... 12 locks system... lol... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 19 2017, 09:34 AM)
why is that? how we can check on this?
what type of piping will bocor and what type will not ?
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Sometimes you wont know until few years. Then abit too late. Coz concealed pipes you might not know if hairline leak.
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u can install those security doors... way more secure... and looks classier than ordinary wooden door... that my own view... but the quality of the door and the locks very secure... 12 locks system... lol...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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friend, cannot install or replace door lah...this is a strata title property.....bukan rainbow village.... tongue.gif
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friend, cannot install or replace door lah...this is a strata title property.....bukan rainbow village.... tongue.gif
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eh... sorry boss.... that means grill must install inside of the hse? lol.... since it will affect the outlook if install outside...
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 19 2017, 09:32 AM)
thats my concern as well
hahaha

1. there is huge windows on living room and ground floor room which access to the garden. kind of hard to do internal grill but if did, it may seems very ugly
2. i pay rm 500+ maintenance fee plus alarm system from developer , cctv and censor systems by ourself , seems to me already very secured ...
if we put grill , it may look like bank vault or prison cell ( nothing much diff compare to a normal g&g housing area ). eventually i dont need to choose em after all right?

that is my concern and i cant decide yet on grill too
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I have not decided too. SA said no need to install. But living in our Boleh Land anything can happen.
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 19 2017, 09:32 AM)
thats my concern as well
hahaha

1. there is huge windows on living room and ground floor room which access to the garden. kind of hard to do internal grill but if did, it may seems very ugly
2. i pay rm 500+ maintenance fee plus alarm system from developer , cctv and censor systems by ourself , seems to me already very secured ...
if we put grill , it may look like bank vault or prison cell ( nothing much diff compare to a normal g&g housing area ). eventually i dont need to choose em after all right?

that is my concern and i cant decide yet on grill too
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Maintenance fee confirm? RM500?
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suggest to install fly wire or mozzie net instead of grilles.....

pay so much for gng still need to grill this and that.........
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May i know whats a fly wire and mozzie?
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Maintenance fee confirm? RM500?
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last time SA calculated, around 450-550
so i just make it 500 for my unit
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May i know whats a fly wire and mozzie?
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its a net that prevent flies, mosquitos, bugs from getting inside the house
good for dust filtration as well

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friend, cannot install or replace door lah...this is a strata title property.....bukan rainbow village.... tongue.gif
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Gateless type understand, but with gate type also can't change the door? hmm.gif hmm.gif

Need to check the DMC again.

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eh... sorry boss.... that means grill must install inside of the hse? lol.... since it will affect the outlook if install outside...
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the management will provide some approved patterned grille if anyone interested to install.

but as far as I know...door cant change.....otherwise not uniformed lioa.....

but best to check with management.....

I presumed that many owners will be in real shock when comes to strata title properties......
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Gateless type understand, but with gate type also can't change the door?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Need to check the DMC again.
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just check with management when collect your 'welcome package' together with the key.
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 19 2017, 09:32 AM)
thats my concern as well
hahaha

1. there is huge windows on living room and ground floor room which access to the garden. kind of hard to do internal grill but if did, it may seems very ugly
2. i pay rm 500+ maintenance fee plus alarm system from developer , cctv and censor systems by ourself , seems to me already very secured ...
if we put grill , it may look like bank vault or prison cell ( nothing much diff compare to a normal g&g housing area ). eventually i dont need to choose em after all right?

that is my concern and i cant decide yet on grill too
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Think there is some type of frameless grill very minimal to eyes....saw in some ads
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 19 2017, 09:34 AM)
why is that? how we can check on this?
what type of piping will bocor and what type will not ?
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Depends on the pipe and spec used by builder. The best is to make friends with the site supervisor of the builders and ask them. They are the best people to answer your question.
another issue for you to consider: if you install pump and pipe burst, will the developer void your warranty on the house.
so do check out all these issues. it's not so simple as just install the pump.

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Think there is some type of frameless grill very minimal to eyes....saw in some ads
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there are security options to the ugly grills, but they are costly.
invisible grill is one option. the other are security doors, and majestec high strength (marine grade steel) mesh. google them.

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Just check back the DMC...

Grill cannot be installed externally and gate cannot be changed.

However, never mention front door cannot change to security door... hmm.gif hmm.gif


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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 19 2017, 11:22 PM)
Just check back the DMC... 

Grill cannot be installed externally and gate cannot be changed.

However, never mention front door cannot change to security door...   hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Meaning main front door the grille need to inatall internally?
Make sense?

When u get your house and change yr front door. Pls update here.

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Depends on the pipe and spec used by builder. The best is to make friends with the site supervisor of the builders and ask them. They are the best people to answer your question.
another issue for you to consider: if you install pump and pipe burst, will the developer void your warranty on the house.
so do check out all these issues. it's not so simple as just install the pump.
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thanks!
will bear in mind and will ask SA about this biggrin.gif
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thanks!
will bear in mind and will ask SA about this biggrin.gif
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ask the site supervisor too. they are more technical and will know more. i mean the guy who is employed by the builder to manage the construction of the house itself.


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ask the site supervisor too. they are more technical and will know more.
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this one i cannot
i tried to ask for site visit but being rejected by SA
:S

but my friend house installed pump, he ask the contractor to use SIRIM approved pipe ( the one with SIRIM stamped ). so far nothing happened...
is this the pipe that u r refering to?
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 20 2017, 09:10 AM)
this one i cannot
i tried to ask for site visit but being rejected by SA
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but my friend house installed pump, he ask the contractor to use SIRIM approved pipe ( the one with SIRIM stamped ). so far nothing happened...
is this the pipe that u r refering to?
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no worries
after you get the keys you will surely meet the site supervisor
he will be hanging around.. supervising all the defect rectification,

actually when u install pump its not just the piping. the joints between leak due to higher pressure.
as for your friend, his contractor use SIRIM approved pipe but did he redo all the whole house internal piping? The house itself comes with a lot of internal water piping so if you install a pump do you want to hack and replace all the piping. Or just take your chances maybe won't leak. Also SIRIM approved doesn't mean all pipe can be used for all kind of plumbing installations. There is a rating of the pipe can withstand a certain amount of water pressure. The house water piping is built for normal use, so if you increase the water pressure, it could be out of spec and leaks start to occur.

i have been told by a builder NOT to install pump, their piping work not built for that.

so i just asked plumber to work some magic and reroute some water pipes. If you know what i mean. Even then, after i did this, many of the plumbing inlet hose start to leak. i had to fix them one by one. If i had put a pump, i dunno how much worse the leaks would have been.

Or maybe, I was just unlucky and the house was a shitty house.

sorry for the long reply. bored these days. tongue.gif

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no worries
after you get the keys you will surely meet the site supervisor
he will be hanging around.. supervising all the defect rectification,

actually when u install pump its not just the piping. the joints between leak due to higher pressure.
as for your friend, his contractor use SIRIM approved pipe but did he redo all the whole house internal piping? The house itself comes with a lot of internal water piping so if you install a pump do you want to hack and replace all the piping. Or just take your chances maybe won't leak. Also SIRIM approved doesn't mean all pipe can be used for all kind of plumbing installations. There is a rating of the pipe can withstand a certain amount of water pressure. The house water piping is built for normal use, so if you increase the water pressure, it could be out of spec and leaks start to occur.

i have been told by a builder NOT to install pump, their piping work not built for that.

so i just asked plumber to work some magic and reroute some water pipes. If you know what i mean. Even then, after i did this, many of the plumbing inlet hose start to leak. i had to fix them one by one. If i had put a pump, i dunno how much worse the leaks would have been.

Or maybe, I was just unlucky and the house was a shitty house.

sorry for the long reply. bored these days. tongue.gif
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no la bro
its a valued piece of info la
thank for your time and i did learn something new today
and someone did told me this, if i install 2nd water tank, this will eventually increase water pressure as well, right?

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no la bro
its a valued piece of info la
thank for your time and i did learn something new today
and someone did told me this, if i install 2nd water tank, this will eventually increase water pressure as well, right?
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As I understand yes if install parallel, this have to depends on the house design.
I haven't find out for Cradleton also.
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no la bro
its a valued piece of info la
thank for your time and i did learn something new today
and someone did told me this, if i install 2nd water tank, this will eventually increase water pressure as well, right?
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water pressure of house is increased by relocating the water tank higher. my hydraulics theory is already rusty since school days are far behind me , but iirc putting another water tank doesn't necessarily increase water pressure. if u install the 2nd water tank higher than the original tank, then yup.


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water pressure of house is increased by relocating the water tank higher. my hydraulics theory is already rusty since school days are far behind me , but iirc putting another water tank doesn't necessarily increase water pressure. if u install the 2nd water tank higher than the original tank, then yup.
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Understand on.height factor. Thanks for sharing.
Meanwhile, does install parallel improve water pressure?

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Understand on.height factor. Thanks for sharing.
Meanwhile, does install parallel improve water pressure?
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parallel but same level, i don't think so
parallel but second tank higher than 1st tank... maybe.
sorry haven't tried out in real life. based on theory, pressure is based on head ie height of water column. check with a qualified plumber.


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parallel but same level, i don't think so
parallel but second tank higher than 1st tank... maybe.
sorry haven't tried out in real life. based on theory, pressure is based on head ie height of water column.
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In that case if there are bigger tank size than original spec,.just change the bigger (higher) possible tank would be very straight forward and effective?
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In that case if there are bigger tank size than original spec,.just change the bigger (higher) possible tank would be very straight forward and effective?
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do you know / have you heard - what is "direct water" ?  tongue.gif i thought it's common knowledge  tongue.gif
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Hi,

Tenderfields 2C buyer reporting.

Just to comment on the "direct" water connection, as I didn't want to deal with a water pump noise, at my current house, my plumber have installed direct water connection with a bypass valve. When there's a water cut, the bypass valve will reroute to use the Storage tank water. However, I have kept my downstair toilet still sourcing from the Storage tank, so that it circulates water inside the tank.

So far water pressure is great but you do get sudden pressure loss if you have lots of people using multiple toilets at the same time. Liveable for me as it's just my wife and I.

Some sharing incase useful

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You mean those water doesn't go through water tank from direct water source?
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Hi,

Tenderfields 2C buyer reporting.

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So far water pressure is great but you do get sudden pressure loss if you have lots of people using multiple toilets at the same time.  Liveable for me as it's just my wife and I.

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well done. give u one hundred like.

for fun, 0you can also consider install another tank in parallel. tank 1 - downstair only. tank 2- direct. so when downstair using, won't affect upstair.
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well done. give u one hundred like.

for fun, 0you can also consider install another tank in parallel. tank 1 - downstair only. tank 2- direct. so when downstair using, won't affect upstair.
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Water also can do hybrids. Haha...

I see water expert floating, quickly catch. Get a very idea now to discuss with future plumber. Otherwise I would just go with water pump.

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Hi,

Tenderfields 2C buyer reporting.

Just to comment on the "direct" water connection, as I didn't want  to deal with a water pump noise, at my current house, my plumber have installed direct water connection with a bypass valve.  When there's a water cut, the bypass valve will reroute to use the Storage tank water.  However, I have kept my downstair toilet still sourcing from the Storage tank, so that it circulates water inside the tank.

So far water pressure is great but you do get sudden pressure loss if you have lots of people using multiple toilets at the same time.  Liveable for me as it's just my wife and I.

Some sharing incase useful
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Thanks for sharing, very useful.

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Meaning main front door the grille need to inatall internally?
Make sense?

When u get your house and change yr front door. Pls update here.
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Actually I am in doubt if EM will be so stringent on the main door grill for units that have gate.  hmm.gif
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For me, personal point of view.
The door provided are usually nice.

I raise hand to support if they enforce the policy for main door grill.

Look very strata from outside if all houses without grill outside and the door design match the theme well.

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For me, personal point of view.
The door provided are usually nice.

I raise hand to support if they enforce the policy for main door grill.

Look very strata from outside if all houses without grill outside and the door design match the theme well.

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I agree that the door is nice. But if i want to keep my main door open without a grill somehow i dont really feel safe cry.gif
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I agree that the door is nice. But if i want to keep my main door open without a grill somehow i dont really feel safe  cry.gif
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Ya, like I said. Open totally naked.

Thus encourage owners to source for better alternative instead of grill outside the door?
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Actually I am in doubt if EM will be so stringent on the main door grill for units that have gate.  hmm.gif
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I know one other GNG housing estate stated that
main door cannot be changed, same with gate. gate can installed automative arms but cannot replaced the original gate.
can install main door grille, but must select one of the two designed from management. I think rear door you can whip yr fancy on grille patterns....but no extension allowed....only 2 designed of awnings allowed.
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For me, personal point of view.
The door provided are usually nice.

I raise hand to support if they enforce the policy for main door grill.

Look very strata from outside if all houses without grill outside and the door design match the theme well.

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Since there are gates outside, personally I don't think putting a grill on the main door or change it to security door shall impact the overall uniformity of the houses. hmm.gif
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I agree that the door is nice. But if i want to keep my main door open without a grill somehow i dont really feel safe  cry.gif
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if the door is of good quality, why you need grille for???????

to delay the robbery if its happened?

Why you need to open the door? there are windows........
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I know one other GNG housing estate stated that
main door cannot be changed, same with gate. gate can installed automative arms but cannot replaced the original gate.
can install main door grille, but must select one of the two designed from management. I think rear door you can whip yr fancy on grille patterns....but no extension allowed....only 2 designed of awnings allowed.
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I know one other GNG housing estate stated that
main door cannot be changed, same with gate. gate can installed automative arms but cannot replaced the original gate.
can install main door grille, but must select one of the two designed from management. I think rear door you can whip yr fancy on grille patterns....but no extension allowed....only 2 designed of awnings allowed.
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Even main door grille also can have 2 design only? Is there any bulk purchase price? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 20 2017, 11:52 AM)
I know one other GNG housing estate stated that
main door cannot be changed, same with gate. gate can installed automative arms but cannot replaced the original gate.
can install main door grille, but must select one of the two designed from management. I think rear door you can whip yr fancy on grille patterns....but no extension allowed....only 2 designed of awnings allowed.
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Mind to share which GnG housing estate is that? Kepo abit.. brows.gif

Gate cannot change is indeed written clearly in the EM DMC, which I believe is essential for uniformity. Just feel abit doubt ont the main door though. Anyhow, using the main door grille design from managment is a good idea too.

If according to DMC, some form of extension is allowed, but must comply with the stated requirements.
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if the door is of good quality, why you need grille for???????

to delay the robbery if its happened?

Why you need to open the door? there are windows........
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Actually for me, my habit is open door also. More on living habits than security.
Biggest breeze source and easy to close if I want to switch on air-con later.

No need to purposely open and shut windows everytime.

Door just leave it open when you come in and close it when you go out.
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Even main door grille also can have 2 design only? Is there any bulk purchase price?  tongue.gif
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yes, I believe they are almost the same.....just different in vertical lines nia..... biggrin.gif

owners need to organise themselves to get bulk discount.......

management will give u a detailed drawing. any grill master will know how to produce it exactly.
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the management will provide some approved patterned grille if anyone interested to install.

but as far as I know...door cant change.....otherwise not uniformed lioa.....

but best to check with management.....

I presumed that many owners will be in real shock when comes to strata title properties......
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What shock?

Means never read the DMC when sign? THen blame ownself
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I think grill for main doors can install but for windows it depends.
Reason for grill for main doors is sometime if we didn't switch on air-cond, the door should be open and it's like totally naked.

At least there is a grill if when we leave the door open.

For windows if you want.you may consider those invisible grill, grill are In between the grass or something if I am not mistaken,  of course it should be quite costly.
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I will do this for my G&G area

http://www.pantherprotect.net.au/
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if the door is of good quality, why you need grille for???????

to delay the robbery if its happened?

Why you need to open the door? there are windows........
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Personally I like more fresh air to come into the house as well, as my current practise... biggrin.gif
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Mind to share which GnG housing estate is that? Kepo abit..  brows.gif

Gate cannot change is indeed written clearly in the EM DMC, which I believe is essential for uniformity. Just feel abit doubt ont the main door though. Anyhow, using the main door grille design from managment is a good idea too.

If according to DMC, some form of extension is allowed, but must comply with the stated requirements.
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M Residences 2.

Extension totally not allowed. Only awning allowed. Anywhere I think rear got 2' place nia....wasting money to even renovate...

and concreate backyard........ rclxs0.gif
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Agreed that the proper way is to have a standardized design and colour for the main door grill or at least to have some guidance to floow if not entirely standardized.
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u can install those security doors... way more secure... and looks classier than ordinary wooden door... that my own view... but the quality of the door and the locks very secure... 12 locks system... lol...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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my 2 cents

Dont bother with security door for the main door, there are MUCH easier way to enter your house then thru the main door.

My defense system starts at the bedroom door, I think I outlined what I did and my reasoning in other posting...
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I will do this for my G&G area

http://www.pantherprotect.net.au/
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This one seems a good reference to consider.
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What shock?

Means never read the DMC when sign? THen blame ownself
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you will be surprised many buyers not aware of what they are buying into. ok maybe SMD owners are more diligent as they are unlikely to be 1st home owners.

one buyer even said she didn't know what is strata title and never bother to find out until key collection time.

I would say same with EM buyers too.......
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you will be surprised many buyers not aware of what they are buying into. ok maybe SMD owners are more diligent as they are unlikely to be 1st home owners.

one buyer even said she didn't know what is strata title and never bother to find out until key collection time.

I would say same with EM buyers too.......
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I think If anyone simply own any strata condo before, they have some very general ideas on what they are heading.

Here and there maybe a bit of this and that we didn't think of it for Landed Strata..i assume not until stunt ba?

Actually SA does brief through during the sales process too.
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no worries
after you get the keys you will surely meet the site supervisor
he will be hanging around.. supervising all the defect rectification,

actually when u install pump its not just the piping. the joints between leak due to higher pressure.
as for your friend, his contractor use SIRIM approved pipe but did he redo all the whole house internal piping? The house itself comes with a lot of internal water piping so if you install a pump do you want to hack and replace all the piping. Or just take your chances maybe won't leak. Also SIRIM approved doesn't mean all pipe can be used for all kind of plumbing installations. There is a rating of the pipe can withstand a certain amount of water pressure. The house water piping is built for normal use, so if you increase the water pressure, it could be out of spec and leaks start to occur.

i have been told by a builder NOT to install pump, their piping work not built for that.

so i just asked plumber to work some magic and reroute some water pipes. If you know what i mean. Even then, after i did this, many of the plumbing inlet hose start to leak. i had to fix them one by one. If i had put a pump, i dunno how much worse the leaks would have been.

Or maybe, I was just unlucky and the house was a shitty house.

sorry for the long reply. bored these days. tongue.gif
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From my experience.... (and a few years in the civil engineering line)

Once your house gets to around 10~15 yrs old...water problem (leaks etc) will start to happen, doesnt matter if its a terrace or semi D or bungalow. The main culprit is not the water pressure... infact CONSTANT water pressure is fine.. the problem is when the water pressure alternates.. form strong then weak then strong... this constant vibration will loosen/wear out the joints (the pipe itself hardly every breaks).

That being said, I'm not taking any chances (for those of you who experienced leaks from underground piping u will know what I mean), for my next house, during reno time, I will try to relocate all my water piping externally (ofcourse hide it nicely, thats what the ID is for), for internals ones, I will install removable panels/tiles etc where the joints are. 1 time cost for a life time of headache free living...
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 20 2017, 12:06 PM)
This one seems a good reference to consider.
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Oh costing wise 3 panels of glass door size is RM10k

Many brands available in Malaysia... including that panther fella
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 20 2017, 12:14 PM)
I think If anyone simply own any strata condo before, they have some very general ideas on what they are heading.

Here and there maybe a bit of this and that we didn't think of it for Landed Strata..i assume not until stunt ba?

Actually SA does brief through during the sales process too.
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Oh ya... u know those kerb parking around the housing estate...

You can forget about that in a strata landed...

Hooray! rclxm9.gif
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Oh ya... u know those kerb parking around the housing estate...

You can forget about that in a strata landed...

Hooray!  rclxm9.gif
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This I believe based on enforcement? Residents can feedback, discuss/request ?
I been to some Strata residents, they still park their car outside.
Half car porch half roadside (day time). Maybe temporary only, night time must remove?

If fully based on condo standard, many cars need to park outside.

Some buyers priority on first and last roll, I still heard they said extra parking space during units selection. haha...

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 20 2017, 12:14 PM)
From my experience.... (and a few years in the civil engineering line)

Once your house gets to around 10~15 yrs old...water problem (leaks etc) will start to happen, doesnt matter if its a terrace or semi D or bungalow. The main culprit is not the water pressure... infact CONSTANT water pressure is fine.. the problem is when the water pressure alternates.. form strong then weak then strong... this constant vibration will loosen/wear out the joints (the pipe itself hardly every breaks).

That being said, I'm not taking any chances (for those of you who experienced leaks from underground piping u will know what I mean), for my next house, during reno time, I will try to relocate all my water piping externally (ofcourse hide it nicely, thats what the ID is for), for internals ones, I will install removable panels/tiles etc where the joints are. 1 time cost for a life time of headache free living...
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i agreed ... but as for me , i perfer changing new house every 5-10 years
( if can and afford la ) biggrin.gif
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i agreed ... but as for me , i perfer changing new house every 5-10 years
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That's during my younger years lor....

Currently gonna hit 40 in a few years liao feel like lazy to keep moving...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 20 2017, 12:22 PM)
This I believe based on enforcement? Residents can feedback, discuss/request ?
I been to some Strata residents, they still park their car outside.
Half car porch half roadside (day time). Maybe temporary only, night time must remove?

If fully based on condo standard, many cars need to park outside.

Some buyers priority on first and last roll, I still heard they said extra parking space during units selection. haha...
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Everything can nego la...

But strata means outside of your house is shared land...

Anyway... for Tropicana Aman - Cheria, its gateless, so you can actually park 6 cars with your 2nd row of cars jutting out of your "gate", that is allowed.

However, IF you decide to build a gate, you cannot close your gate and park your car entirely outside of the gate.

There are some ppl who are very selfish, they want to keep their own porch empty while parking all around....
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That's during my younger years lor....

Currently gonna hit 40 in a few years liao feel like lazy to keep moving...
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In others word, full dy... Ready for retirement.
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In others word, full dy... Ready for retirement.
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Means old liao ready for a peaceful life...

Not as aggressive as all the young men here still can chiong blush.gif
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That's during my younger years lor....

Currently gonna hit 40 in a few years liao feel like lazy to keep moving...
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no la
im 1978 and old jor
after this, i will buy small unit la
if kids sudah besar semua and move out, ill go stay with my wife in condo / apt enough lo
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no la
im 1978 and old jor
after this, i will buy small unit la
if kids sudah besar semua and move out, ill go stay with my wife in condo / apt enough lo
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 20 2017, 12:34 PM)
Everything can nego la...

But strata means outside of your house is shared land...

Anyway... for Tropicana Aman - Cheria, its gateless, so you can actually park 6 cars with your 2nd row of cars jutting out of your "gate", that is allowed.

However, IF you decide to build a gate, you cannot close your gate and park your car entirely outside of the gate.

There are some ppl who are very selfish, they want to keep their own porch empty while parking all around....
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Management can still allocate certain shared land as general parking space/visitors parking space too if they agree and approve right?

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 20 2017, 12:14 PM)
I think If anyone simply own any strata condo before, they have some very general ideas on what they are heading.

Here and there maybe a bit of this and that we didn't think of it for Landed Strata..i assume not until stunt ba?

Actually SA does brief through during the sales process too.
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we just cant assume homeowners are well informed prior to signing dotted line or collect key and inspect the house.

true story - one owner even aasked "where are all the lighting in the house?" when he/she collected his/her keys to the newly vped home. thought landed should come with just like show unit....

also you also cant assume everyone that bought landed would have stayed in condo before....many may still live with parents before moved into their 1st landed.

I for once never stayed in condo....landed all the way......
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Same thought as well.  This SD unit for me will be my future retirement funds - sell it and buy a small unit for retirement.
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For me, I am still thinking between upgrade Cradleton for better retirement unit (parkhomes those kind of garden living) or getting one more condo in primary location..i still doesn't have property at very primary location yet.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 20 2017, 12:22 PM)
This I believe based on enforcement? Residents can feedback, discuss/request ?
I been to some Strata residents, they still park their car outside.
Half car porch half roadside (day time). Maybe temporary only, night time must remove?

If fully based on condo standard, many cars need to park outside.

Some buyers priority on first and last roll, I still heard they said extra parking space during units selection. haha...
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Management can still allocate certain shared land as general parking space/visitors parking space too if they agree and approve right?
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Correct.

Provided there is such space.

Usually for strata landed, the visitor parking is clearly marked in the borchure/planning stages. While all other "free space" would have some landscaping etc being done on it.

Oh and just like Condo... if the management is strict, resident parking at visitor space will be subjected to clamping.
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M Residences 2.

Extension totally not allowed. Only awning allowed. Anywhere I think rear got 2' place nia....wasting money to even renovate...

and concreate backyard........ rclxs0.gif
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Extension is more applicable to corner/end/SemiD/Cluster lot unit I presume, intermediate unit for most models already fully extended, no?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 20 2017, 12:57 PM)
For me, I am still thinking between upgrade Cradleton for better retirement unit (parkhomes those kind of garden living) or getting one more condo in primary location..i still doesn't have property at very primary location yet.
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But considering retirement life should control a bit the spending, those fancy houses / parkhomes in prime location may cost a lot in terms of maintenance fee. Need to strike a balance btw quality life after retire vs financial control. Haha.
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But considering retirement life should control a bit the spending, those fancy houses / parkhomes in prime location may cost a lot in terms of maintenance fee.  Need to strike a balance btw quality life after retire vs financial control. Haha.
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Agreed. My ideal retirement house is in EM. if I didn't upgrade mean very likely I would settle down in Cradleton.
I have other property for my retirement life expenses.
Condo at primary location are planning as investment for my son future education.

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guess i need to spend more time browsing reno to do list after CNY ...
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so much new ideas today ...
guess i need to spend more time browsing reno to do list after CNY ...
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Wah... taikors here all talk about retirement already...  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Take you as role achievement model.
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we just cant assume homeowners are well informed prior to signing dotted line or collect key and inspect the house.

true story - one owner even aasked "where are all the lighting in the house?" when he/she collected his/her keys to the newly vped home. thought landed should come with just like show unit....

also you also cant assume everyone that bought landed would have stayed in condo before....many may still live with parents before moved into their 1st landed.

I for once never stayed in condo....landed all the way......
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I really interested to know how they answer on "where are all the lighting in the house?".

By the.way, for Car in showroom, there is a regulation for car on display must be exactly as what buyers are getting (for same spec). Test drive car can upgrade accessories.

For property, some developer have both empty and renovated unit to show.

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I really interested to know how they answer on "where are all the lighting in the house?".

By the.way, for Car in showroom, there is a regulation for car on display must be exactly as what buyers are getting (for same spec). Test drive car can upgrade accessories.

For property, some developer have both empty and renovated unit to show.
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one type of rice, thousand type of people.........

not everyone eat drink work play sleep property de....

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Extension is more applicable to corner/end/SemiD/Cluster lot unit I presume, intermediate unit for most models already fully extended, no?
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I doubt that for pure strata landed you can renovate even for corner, end, smds.
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Some form of extension is permitted, as stated in DMC.. Shared in thread before...
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Some form of extension is permitted, as stated in DMC..  Shared in thread before...
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if you can share any gng estate real life examples that would be helpful.

extension means full bricks 4 walls extension rite?
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if you can share any gng estate real life examples that would be helpful.

extension means full bricks 4 walls extension rite?
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Extension in terms of roofline...

Can't recall the exact requirement, need to check back the DMC..
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just received email for billing stage 2G
they skipped billing stage 2F ( which is sewerage works )


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just received email for billing stage 2G
they skipped billing stage 2F ( which is sewerage works )
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Haha... whether 2F or 2G it's still 5%. Btw, your house is pretty much ready already - left only the sewerage and the road now. rclxms.gif
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That's during my younger years lor....

Currently gonna hit 40 in a few years liao feel like lazy to keep moving...
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re: strata landed. as diverlim say depend on enforcement. some may allow residents to park on the kerb outside the house.

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Haha... whether 2F or 2G it's still 5%.  Btw, your house is pretty much ready already - left only the sewerage and the road now.  rclxms.gif
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but i still have a lot to research on reno things :S
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hahaha yes
but i still have a lot to research on reno things :S
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Bro are you going to get a interior designer?
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no bro
i think i wanna do the basic only, since i wish to stay only for 5-10 years
my friend just introduced me a carpenter
he quoted my house cabinet ( wet and dry kitchen, 4 rooms, downstair living room, upstair family area, below staircase ) only for rm 100k ( cheapest from ID is 120k at the moment ) with same material and size as per ID quoted
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no bro
i think i wanna do the basic only, since i wish to stay only for 5-10 years
my friend just introduced me a carpenter
he quoted my house cabinet ( wet and dry kitchen, 4 rooms, downstair living room, upstair family area, below staircase ) only for rm 100k ( cheapest from ID is 120k at the moment ) with same material and size as per ID quoted
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I see. I'm still considering whether to get a ID and if so whether just to focus on certain areas. ID price is always steep but the feel is very different laugh.gif I remember attended the ID talk organized by EM about 2 yrs back - est 25% - 30% of the house price to make it a show house kind of effect as per the speaker.
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yes, it will be hasslefree if u use ID
they will jaga everything for u
but price wise, gonna be killing us
but without ID, we will need to supervise, at least 2-3 months frustration on site...
but we can save at least 30-50%, compare to what ID quoted

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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 21 2017, 10:11 AM)
yes, it will be hasslefree if u use ID
they will jaga everything for u
but price wise, gonna be killing us
but without ID, we will need to supervise, at least 2-3 months frustration on site...
but we can save at least 30-50%, compare to what ID quoted
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Use ID doesn't mean let them do everything. To get a balance between cost savings & convenience, u can just let them do ID drawing/consultation, major civil works, some carpentry..... the rest like electrical wiring, cabinetry, plaster ceiling, wallpaper/painting, etc. can get respective supplier to do. Also, even when u engage ID company to do major civil works, u can still buy ur own tiles to save cost. wink.gif
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so much to learn for 1st timer like me :S
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Jan 21 2017, 10:53 AM)
Use ID doesn't mean let them do everything. To get a balance between cost savings & convenience, u can just let them do ID drawing/consultation, major civil works, some carpentry..... the rest like electrical wiring, cabinetry, plaster ceiling, wallpaper/painting, etc. can get respective supplier to do. Also, even when u engage ID company to do major civil works, u can still buy ur own tiles to save cost. wink.gif
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get them do everything is easier but costly. if u were to manage separately will be very troublesome and u need to coordinate most of the things like who to what 1st.
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Jan 21 2017, 10:53 AM)
Use ID doesn't mean let them do everything. To get a balance between cost savings & convenience, u can just let them do ID drawing/consultation, major civil works, some carpentry..... the rest like electrical wiring, cabinetry, plaster ceiling, wallpaper/painting, etc. can get respective supplier to do. Also, even when u engage ID company to do major civil works, u can still buy ur own tiles to save cost. wink.gif
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get them do everything is easier but costly. if u were to manage separately will be very troublesome and u need to coordinate most of the things like who to what 1st.
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The main benefits of engaging the ID firm are the coordination of works (which could be a big headache) and the interior design which is their expertise. I think it's a matter whether one is willing to pay extra for the service rendered. Material wise in general are average unless specifically request or get your one supply.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 21 2017, 11:26 AM)
The main benefits of engaging the ID firm are the coordination of works (which could be a big headache) and the interior design which is their expertise.  I think it's a matter whether one is willing to pay extra for the service rendered.  Material wise in general are average unless specifically request or get your one supply.
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As long as they get me what I want, paying a little premium to avoid hassle is okay.

We are buying property up to RM 1,000,000.00 already.

Skimp few thousand for headaches down the road is not worth it.

That's my humble poorfag opinion biggrin.gif
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so much to learn for 1st timer like me :S
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if you have time do it yourself (meaning supervise various contractor)
you will find the effort enriching to your own life experience (cursing and swearing is part of learning about yourself) tongue.gif
and saves you lot of $$ too, especially since you think u gonna stay only 5 years, why bump up your cost significantly. 100k is almost 20% of your house price.
I don't believe in ID, some are big con man. if you're unlucky not only will you pay a lot , but you will be just as frustrated as if you did it yourself.


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QUOTE(chiahau @ Jan 21 2017, 11:55 AM)
As long as they get me what I want, paying a little premium to avoid hassle is okay.

We are buying property up to RM 1,000,000.00 already.

Skimp few thousand for headaches down the road is not worth it.

That's my humble poorfag opinion biggrin.gif
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more than few thousand bro
my friends renovated their semi d, all in. 350k with ID
without ID and supervise ownself, somewhere around 200k

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if you have time do it yourself (meaning supervise various contractor)
you will find the effort enriching to your own life experience (cursing and swearing is part of learning about yourself)  tongue.gif
and saves you lot of $$ too, especially since you think u gonna stay only 5 years, why bump up your cost significantly. 100k is almost 20% of your house price.
I don't believe in ID, some are big con man. if you're unlucky not only will you pay a lot , but you will be just as frustrated as if you did it yourself.
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ya lo
i wanna do as simple as possible
currently i just wanna do cabinets, and plaster ceilings to hide cctv and censor wiring ( dont wanna do hacking ) and lighting, buy some furnitures and electric appliances and move in biggrin.gif
wanna reduce everything to below 150k, move in condition ( if possible lo )

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ya once you get older lazy to move around. a lot of headache.
re: strata landed. as diverlim say depend on enforcement. some may allow residents to park on the kerb outside the house.
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for normal link house, 1 house 2 cars inside the gate is the best
less problem just like condo
my area got ppl park lorry outside de gate
really headache rclxub.gif
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Still no sign of the schools that are supposed to be built near Brighton?

Hope Eco Majestic delivers on this...

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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 21 2017, 12:51 PM)
ya lo
i wanna do as simple as possible
currently i just wanna do cabinets, and plaster ceilings to hide cctv and censor wiring ( dont wanna do hacking ) and lighting, buy some furnitures and electric appliances and move in biggrin.gif
wanna reduce everything to below 150k, move in condition ( if possible lo )
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If renovation + furnitures budget below 150k, can forget about getting ID service since the design shall be pretty simple. Should put all the $$$ to where it matters.
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Still no sign of the schools that are supposed to be built near Brighton?

Hope Eco Majestic delivers on this...
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jasoncat Taikor, any news on the school? Currently already early 2017... sad.gif

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...jestic-semenyih


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jasoncat Taikor, any news on the school? Currently already early 2017...  sad.gif

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...jestic-semenyih
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Tomorrow will lepak at EM. If manage to see taukenia will ask her.
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Thanks taikor... That day went to EM to take angpau packet, but didn't see taukenia around, so didn't ask..
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Thanks taikor... That day went to EM to take angpau packet, but didn't see taukenia around, so didn't ask..
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Jan 21 2017, 12:51 PM)
ya lo
i wanna do as simple as possible
currently i just wanna do cabinets, and plaster ceilings to hide cctv and censor wiring ( dont wanna do hacking ) and lighting, buy some furnitures and electric appliances and move in biggrin.gif
wanna reduce everything to below 150k, move in condition ( if possible lo )
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light and simple can be an ID theme also...

but you need to have an idea how you want yr house to look like, and comfortable to live in...and must have a main theme.....

unfortunately not many people have the ID touch (and many of them thought they have)..plus he says she says, he wants she wants.....most houses will turn into Disneyland or incoherent design.....

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Many thanks for inquiring on the school notworthy.gif
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Hi Jasoncat....who is taukenia?

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Hi Jasoncat....who is taukenia?

Many thanks for inquiring on the school  notworthy.gif
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No prob. It's also my interest to know as well. wink.gif

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ID.... is to make sure the design flow, what you think looks best for each room might turn out nasty once it's all put together.

To save cost and have a fun ID experience... I would advice..
1. Let them do the coordination and supervision. Otherwise they are not responsible for your contractors workmanship.

2. Big item raw material, try source it yourself. Raw material sourcing will be hiked up 20% by ID, small items no problem big items ( aka tiles etc) would be painful

3. Get a proper ID, there are many so called ID who sucks

4. Just like there is good mechanic bad mechanic, good and bad doctors... same goes with ID. Get one that has the same view and design which suits your needs.
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Joey Yap's chui shui session to begin soon...
People still keep coming...
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Wah, hows the blow water session with dato?
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Going to share some work progress pics (all aerial view) later, taken during the JY's talk, but again this is Work In Progress - good or bad I hope you guys not to jump into conclusion and make another unnecessary havoc while waiting for the final products (though will be VP soon)

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Let's start with Gentlebre... (already handed over in Dec16)

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The rest... pause a while. Lol.
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Bro, you were also there.
How's your fortune in 2017? biggrin.gif
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Visited arroyo garden n gentlebre during nite time
Relaxing type vs class type. Both oso very nice.

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dont be stingy, share a bit more on Tenderfield.

if the target completion date on the slide is correct, three months from now is a bit short given that the overall landscaping and roads far from being ready.
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Thanks for sharing all the WIP photos. From helicopter view looks good. Hope final Cradleton product is good too.

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QUOTE(LTFan @ Jan 22 2017, 09:05 PM)
dont be stingy, share a bit more on Tenderfield.

if the target completion date on the slide is correct, three months from now is a bit short given that the overall landscaping and roads far from being ready.
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Lol that's basically what I have ... even if I pawn my underwear that's what I have. The est VP date to buyer shall be around April / May.

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Ivoris - the 1st commercial in EM.
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Judge on the actual photos, the area reserve for parking space is quite generous. By the time we move in, the commercial should be ready to serve us.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 22 2017, 09:13 PM)
Lol that's basically what I have ...  even if I pawn my underwear that's what I have. The est VP date to buyer shall be around April / May.
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Didnt see you wear any underwear.... anyway, thanks for sharing
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Bro, you were also there.
How's your fortune in 2017? biggrin.gif
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joey yap talk not bad
just like "tung tuk siu"
me just ikan bilis got half of the big 5 only for 2017 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 22 2017, 09:25 PM)
Judge on the actual photos,  the area reserve for parking space is quite generous. By the time we move in,  the commercial should be ready to serve us.
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Hmm... the leasing team has already started looking for tenants (but I didn't ask any confirmed yet) hope as you said by the time we move in there are some shops open already.
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 22 2017, 09:28 PM)
joey yap talk not bad
just like "tung tuk siu"
me just ikan bilis got half of the big 5 only for 2017  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for sharing all the WIP photos. From helicopter view looks good. Hope final Cradleton product is good too.
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After my nite visiting to gentlebre. The guardhouse, fencing n landscape lighting really class
I believe other phases will be nice as well.
So far, never regret to bot EM.
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jan 22 2017, 10:04 PM)
After my nite visiting to gentlebre. The guardhouse, fencing n landscape lighting really class
I believe other phases will be nice as well.
So far, never regret to bot EM.
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That will be a confident boost to existing (probably prospect) buyers! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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That will be a confident boost to existing (probably prospect) buyers! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif . indeed .... nice ...
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Hmm... the leasing team has already started looking for tenants (but I didn't ask any confirmed yet) hope as you said by the time we move in there are some shops open already.
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Ya, they should start earlier. Else, it will be a bit late like Ecosky. Finger cross, hope the leasing team can get basic F&B to support Cradleton and Tenderfield residents.
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The much anticipated (lol) - Cradleton...
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Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 22 2017, 11:24 PM)
Ya,  they should start earlier.  Else,  it will be a bit late like Ecosky. Finger cross,  hope the leasing team can get basic F&B to support Cradleton and Tenderfield residents.
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Donutes is opening in ecosky. Hope the leasing team can get them to open in ecomajestic as well. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 22 2017, 11:24 PM)
Ya,  they should start earlier.  Else,  it will be a bit late like Ecosky. Finger cross,  hope the leasing team can get basic F&B to support Cradleton and Tenderfield residents.
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Donutes is opening in ecosky. Hope the leasing team can get them to open in ecomajestic as well.  biggrin.gif
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The market is tough and those biz men that I know of remain cautious for 2017 and unconvinced that 2017 will be any significantly better. Just hope that the sentiments to get better and better.
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The much anticipated (lol) - Cradleton...
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I am impressed.
I were expecting Cradleton to be very average.
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The market is tough and those biz men that I know of remain cautious for 2017 and unconvinced that 2017 will be any significantly better.  Just hope that the sentiments to get better and better.
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No matter how tough is the market, there are always peoples are still entering/trying. Life goes on. It just tougher, it doesn't stop.

I think the toughest challenge for EM at this moment is not able to present/showcase the customers group/profile and volume.

Buyers info doesn't seem convincing. In the end, how many are gonna stay in and when are they moving in? Nobody can tell.

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I am impressed.
I were expecting Cradleton to be very average.
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Noted of your expectation. I'm equally excited seeing the precints esp Cradleton which is largely in shape. Let's see how it turns out as the handover date is getting closer and closer.
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Noted of your expectation.  I'm equally excited seeing the precints esp Cradleton which is largely in shape.  Let's see how it turns out as the handover date is getting closer and closer.
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Sorry for misunderstanding.

"i were" I actually mean before I see the site progress you shared.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 23 2017, 10:01 AM)
No matter how tough is the market, there are always peoples are still entering/trying. Life goes on. It just tougher, it doesn't stop.

I think the toughest challenge for EM at this moment is not able to present/showcase the customers group/profile and volume.

Buyers info doesn't seem convincing. In the end, how many are gonna stay in and when are they moving in? Nobody can tell.
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Kind of agree, more so the sociodemographics of Semenyih is still transforming and the matter is complicated by the facts that EM is a brand new township with little population at the very beginning after the handover of the first 2 precints (excluding bungalow lands) this year. Buyers / home stayers needs commercials and infra / amenities / facilities to entice them to move in while the commercials needs the population to convince them to start biz - to a certain extent, chicken and egg situation.

Amyway I would expect up to 30% occupancy for the 1st year after VP.
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About the Chinese school in EM, EM is still actively lobbying/ meeting / pursuing etc - whatever you name it with the gov officials. EM is pretty much ready but it's a delicate matter to be resolved at the other end.
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About the Chinese school in EM, EM is still actively lobbying/ meeting / pursuing etc - whatever you name it with the gov officials.  EM is pretty much ready but it's a  delicate matter to be resolved at the other end.
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Forgot to take landscape nite view photo.
The lakeside for 180 units banglow ppl. I think good enough.


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Forgot to take landscape nite view photo.
The lakeside for 180 units banglow ppl. I think good enough.
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Boss, RFID access to the precint right?
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Forgot to take landscape nite view photo.
The lakeside for 180 units banglow ppl. I think good enough.
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unless you are one of the bungalow people, your good enuf might not be equal to their good enuf.
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unless you are one of the bungalow people, your good enuf might not be equal to their good enuf.
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Same thing mah, u r not the owner. That y will feel forever not good enough. The lakeside only can access by 180 units banglow ppl. What do u expect? U want very very good n world class lakeside. Do u know how much u need to pay for monthly MF?
Same thing mah, u r eco park owner. Eco park forever good for u. I m not Eco park owner. I oso think Eco park not good enough. I oso dun understand y setia will build Eco park in the lower land area n maybe will cause flood issue in future rite?

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Boss, RFID access to the precint right?
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Do you know more in RFID?

RFID access mean each car would given one transmitter and everytime passby the receiver, the gate would open?

Since the toll are also using RFID, the transmitter carry reload credit too? Or sending bills to us?
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[quote=Jasoncat,Jan 23 2017, 10:49 AM]
Boss, RFID access to the precint right?
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Sorry can not remember the function of RFID. can explain little bit tongue.gif tongue.gif
No card acces. Using Sticker. Got pro and con. The sticker at the car light not in car plate, coz ppl can steal the plate but car light ppl can not steal
Problem tis u can not pass the sticker to others ppl lor

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Boss, RFID access to the precint right?
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Sorry can not remember the function of RFID. can explain little bit tongue.gif tongue.gif
No card acces. Using Sticker. Got pro and con. The sticker at the car light not in car plate, coz ppl can steal the plate but car light ppl can not steal
Problem tis u can not pass the sticker to others ppl lor
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I heard they can accommodate to allow sticking on the windscreen other than car light?

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[quote=Jasoncat,Jan 23 2017, 11:17 AM]
Sorry can not remember the function of RFID. can explain little bit tongue.gif tongue.gif
No card acces. Using Sticker. Got pro and con. The sticker at the car light not in car plate, coz ppl can steal the plate but car light ppl can not steal
Problem tis u can not pass the sticker to others ppl lor
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I heard they can accommodate to allow sticking on the windscreen other than car light?
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Not sure
My one at car light
I think windscreen is ok oso.
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I thought is some sort of small device like SmartTag.
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I thought is some sort of small device like SmartTag.
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It's a small chip / bar code kind of things - never visualise personally. Just heard how they described it.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 23 2017, 11:10 AM)
Do you know more in RFID?

RFID access mean each car would given one transmitter and everytime passby the receiver, the gate would open?

Since the toll are also using RFID,  the transmitter carry reload credit too? Or sending bills to us?
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RFID means you have a tag and the reader at the gantry just identify your tag (signal is via radio frequency) for whatever function . for eg Touch and Go is a RFID tag (passive type ie your tag doesn't need a battery). for passive tag the reader will transmit radio signal and the signal energize your tag to give a reply to ID itself. (something like that la hor. )
Since EM using a tag too the technology is RFID. but i don't think there's any billing involved?

If you want to pass the tag around (not sure if they allow) you can just paste the tag on any square plastic card and use that when reaching the gantry. (I haven't tried this, it's only a suggestion. You can try it.)

cheers.

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 23 2017, 11:31 AM)
It's a small chip / bar code kind of things - never visualise personally. Just heard how they described it.
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the way you desicribe it, sounds like RFID tag, matured tech alrd. used everywhere - TnG, SmartTag , security access, tagging of good for logisitics etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification

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the way you desicribe it, sounds like RFID tag, matured tech alrd. used everywhere - TnG, SmartTag , security access, tagging of good for logisitics etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification
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The much anticipated (lol) - Cradleton...
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Not bad. Thanks
Hope they will post more detailed site progress photos on website later. Example backlane n central garden.
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Cradleton VP next month  thumbup.gif
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lets move in asap biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 22 2017, 07:58 PM)
The much anticipated (lol) - Cradleton...
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Thanks jason taikor sharing the picture...

Finally have chance to have an aeriel view on the Cradleton fountain roundabout and central garden, looks great.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Palm trees are in, have visitor parking area as well.. Super nice... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Seems like Sentral garden is still under construction..

Personally hope that if EM can add in more shrubs and a playground to the garden near to fountain roundabout.. thumbsup.gif

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Gentlebre central lake looks great leh... Don't understand how come people said Gentlebre looks no good? sweat.gif sweat.gif




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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 24 2017, 12:01 PM)
Gentlebre central lake looks great leh...   Don't understand how come people said Gentlebre looks no good?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Nite time view nicer. Some more tis central lake only for 180 banglow land ppl.

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Gentlebre central lake looks great leh...  Don't understand how come people said Gentlebre looks no good?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Nothing shown on the Tenderfield ....
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 24 2017, 12:01 PM)
Gentlebre central lake looks great leh...  Don't understand how come people said Gentlebre looks no good?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I have 2 friends VPed his bungalow lots and they said how impressed it was. finally I visited it myself to follow one of them, the landscape is awesome.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
Thanks jason taikor sharing the picture...

Finally have chance to have an aeriel view on the Cradleton fountain roundabout and central garden, looks great..   rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Palm trees are in, have visitor parking area as well.. Super nice...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Seems like Sentral garden is still under construction..

Personally hope that if EM can add in more shrubs and a playground to the garden near to fountain roundabout..  :thumbsup:
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Got visitors parking meh?
Those square space at the end of the road?
Not every road have, quite far away for some houses.

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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Jan 24 2017, 12:07 PM)
I have 2 friends VPed his bungalow lots and they said how impressed it was. finally I visited it myself to follow one of them, the landscape is awesome.
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Day time or nite time u go? Try to visit at nite time. The lighting really thumbsup.gif
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Nite time view nicer. Some more tis central lake only for 180 banglow land ppl.
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Indeed, can imagine that... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

I think you should still chasing about the different trees issue..
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
Thanks jason taikor sharing the picture...

Finally have chance to have an aeriel view on the Cradleton fountain roundabout and central garden, looks great..  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Palm trees are in, have visitor parking area as well.. Super nice...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Seems like Sentral garden is still under construction..

Personally hope that if EM can add in more shrubs and a playground to the garden near to fountain roundabout..  :thumbsup:
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Sharing is caring mah Samkor.
My thought is that if after handover if there are still certain parts (which are not the "obligations" of developer) that can be improved further without much cost eg more shrubs, the buyers representatives should discuss it with EM.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 24 2017, 12:07 PM)
Got visitors parking meh?
Those square space at the end of the road?
Not every road have, quite far away for some houses.
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I meant visitor parking in front of the guard house ler, for registration purpose....


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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 24 2017, 12:10 PM)
Sharing is caring mah Samkor.
My thought is that if after handover if there are still certain parts (which are not the "obligations" of developer) that can be improved further without much cost eg more shrubs, the buyers representatives should discuss it with EM.
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Yeah, definately will talk to EM to add in more patterned shrubs and playground if possible to the garden near to fountain roundabout.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Jan 24 2017, 12:05 PM)
Nothing shown on the Tenderfield ....
I think Tenderfield is abandon Child
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Alamak! Now Tenderfields abandon child pulak.
Sabar bro, Tenderfields current stage of progress is not as advance as Cradleton, so pretty empty still looking from top.

Things may change in another few months time.
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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Jan 24 2017, 12:05 PM)
Nothing shown on the Tenderfield ....
I think Tenderfield is abandon Child
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Walao yeh... still under construction already can conclude it is abandon child? doh.gif doh.gif

I admire your persistant hatred on EM project though... devil.gif devil.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 24 2017, 12:11 PM)
I meant visitor parking in front of the guard house ler, for registration purpose....
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I thought you mean this. Seem to be visitors parking too?
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*just realise it blocked end unit gate..shouldn't be.

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jan 24 2017, 12:09 PM)
Indeed, can imagine that...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

I think you should still chasing about the different trees issue..
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Ya so far no reply ranting.gif ranting.gif
I visited arroyo Garden n gentlebre during nite time
My comment is peaceful and relaxing environment vs model and noble environment.

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Noble gate when launching?
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I thought you mean this. Seem to be visitors parking too?
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*just realise it blocked end unit gate..shouldn't be.
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Is there a chance we could implement this to our garden too?
Sounds cool.

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Is there a chance we could implement this to our garden too?
Sounds cool.

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idea sounds good.

But house A plant house B harvest.... tongue.gif
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Noble gate when launching?
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Noblegate needs to slow slow wait leh... sweat.gif
Stoneridge first bro.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 24 2017, 01:17 PM)
idea sounds good.

But house A plant house B harvest....  tongue.gif
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Organise the harvest, weekend residents bazaar for sales.
Revenue as management fund.
Self-sustaining residential.
Real Eco.
Haha...

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jan 24 2017, 12:24 PM)
Ya so far no reply  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
I visited arroyo Garden n gentlebre during nite time
My comment is peaceful and relaxing environment vs model and noble environment.
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Eh! Why slow response? How long has it been pending?
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 24 2017, 01:22 PM)
Eh! Why slow response?  How long has it been pending?
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Since VP I suppose... hmm.gif
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Since VP I suppose...  hmm.gif
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VP was mid Dec16. IF Rabel boss lodged the complaint then... hmm.gif
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VP was mid Dec16. IF Rabel boss lodged the complaint then... hmm.gif
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Rabel boss mentioned in the thread on 14th Jan that he has lodged a complaint to the EM about the different tree issue.. The complaint most likely is before that.. hmm.gif
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Yo! Cool! EW Community apps (for residents)!!! rclxms.gif

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Day time or nite time u go? Try to visit at nite time. The lighting really  thumbsup.gif
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Ic. I went at afternoon time, left at 5pm+, the sunset is very nice. Consider very nice and breath taking view already.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 24 2017, 01:20 PM)
Organise the harvest, weekend residents bazaar for sales.
Revenue as management fund.
Self-sustaining residential.
Real Eco.
Haha...
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Agree. Real eco. Edible garden provide gardening fun and experience to the kids too. It will just be another ecoworld signature. I feel garden more valuable than the golden swan.
For display only vs user experience.

For random harvest on weekday, give tips box.
Practice honesty. Real Noble (:
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Yeah; The view in this part of Klang Valley is breath-taking; calming, refreshing and relaxing...
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Jan 24 2017, 02:07 PM)
Agree. Real eco. Edible garden provide gardening fun and experience to the kids too. It will just be another ecoworld signature. I feel garden more valuable than the golden swan.
For display only vs user experience.

For random harvest on weekday, give tips box.
Practice honesty. Real Noble (:
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Or can just 'barter'... barter trade... to enchance the neighbourliness...
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Or can just 'barter'... barter trade... to enchance the neighbourliness...
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Since got the neighbourhood app, can use this a means to facilitate the barter trade...
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Eh! Why slow response?  How long has it been pending?
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Ard 3 wks oredy. Actly the answer from SA is not accepted by me. So, they said will feed back to management n will come to me once management respond. Until now lor. Haha.

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Noblegate needs to slow slow wait leh... sweat.gif
Stoneridge first bro.
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Ard 3 wks oredy. Actly the answer from SA is not accepted by me. So, they said will feed back to management n will come to me once management respond.  Until now lor. Haha.
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I see...I think as part of the improvements process, EM/EW should set a SLA for each escalation so that the buyers would know / expect the max time for resolution.
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Yo! Cool! EW Community apps!!! rclxms.gif
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I registered. The apps auto recognize me in Cradleton. Hehe...

Let's play around the apps.

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I registered. The apps auto recognize me in Cradleton. Hehe...

Let's play around the apps.
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Eh! I also registered but couldn't recognize me sad.gif
Understand that only can connect to the residents within own precint and the general msg (says related to the township, to EW etc).

I guess there will be improvements along the way.

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I registered. The apps auto recognize me in Cradleton. Hehe...

Let's play around the apps.
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Which part of the app shows that u belong to which precint?
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jan 24 2017, 02:22 PM)
Eh! I also registered but couldn't recognize me sad.gif
Understand that only can connect to the residents within own precint and the general msg (says related to the township, to EW etc).

I guess there will be improvements along the way.
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It should have two categories.
General community and your own precinct.
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Which part of the app shows that u belong to which precint?
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Can you see from my screenshot?
Cradleton wall already have some social posting.
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Can you see from my screenshot?
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Mine one only the "Community"
During the apps registration process any particular input that could identify you as which precint's buyer? I don't remember any.

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