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post Feb 16 2012, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 16 2012, 05:11 PM)
Yup seen they jersey got ripped off and still can ride very well. I guess they had the whole team medical team behind them unlike us where we had to go clinic ourself to sort the injuries up.

I do plan to slap some knee/elbow protection the nenxt time i ride.
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mr. hoogerland who crashed after being side swiped by juan antonio flecha who was hit by a french tv car and went straight into barb wire fencing.. proceeded to finish the stage to claim his KOM jersey... his jersey was ripped by barbwire rather than hitting the deck and sliding along it...

this is the less horrific one.. there is one more that shows him almost butt naked... go google it ...
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some after pics... must be in shit loads of pain just to ride since most pain meds are banned in the sport...
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it's the year of "see who can crash more epically"...here is Mr. Laurens Ten Dam's shot at it... no ripped jerseys.. jus a gnarly face...also proceeded to finish stage..and for pretty much no prize...
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Lance on the 2010 tour - stage 8 to morzine avoriaz... barrel rolled when he clipped a curb with his pedal at over 50kph he claims...
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jersey's and lycra don't really give much protection since they are so stretchy.. and once they stretch to their limits... they just rip apart..

pro tour riders don't ride along because they have medical officers on the course... it lets them ride knowing they are in safe hands... but generally it is because of their team... a team who goes to a race with 5 to 9 riders cannot expect to lose 1 or 2 riders as they are critical to help their team captain...

even if a rider crashes.. as long as he doesn't break anything other than his bike.. he continues to ride and take turns pulling his team as hard as he can before he gives up...it'll be lucky if it was a 1 day classic race.. if it was a stage race.. they have to suffer for days on end...

scrapes and cuts are the least that they can worry about... riders like cadel and tyler hamilton were known to have ride with somewhat painful injuries until the end of the tour... tyler a highly respectable 4th in 2005 with a broken clavicle.. and cadel with a fractured wrist in 2010...


QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 16 2012, 05:14 PM)
yes, 300 limit hit after 1 day open for registration.

I'm one of the lucky 1. smile.gif

btw, is HK cycling stuffs are cheaper? like small item blinking LED lights... water bottle...

maybe next time, we can go for Ipoh 1 in July...
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HK has a lot of varieties.. whether cheap or not hard to tell... never been there.. but if you make a search in ebay.. quite a lot of cycling stuff (excluding the european regions) is either from taiwan, china and hong kong...

QUOTE(kindredd @ Feb 16 2012, 06:17 PM)
Hi folks,

Dropped by ksh in Taman Tun yesterday. Saw the Kuota Khama...my god that's a sexy beast...so damn tempted. full carbon frame, great design, almost complete campy groupset and wheelset.

What do you guys think, good buy at 6k+?
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is it that cheap? the kharma frame retails for over RM4k if i am not wrong.. if at 6k.. it is quite a bargain bike whether previous or current year model...

QUOTE(malleus @ Feb 16 2012, 07:04 PM)
I actually did think of that  brows.gif give her my current 26' hard tail while I get a 29er

Only problem is that the optimum size for her to use is a 14' while the 6000 that I got is a 15.5'

ah well, still plotting here smile.gif
she can't tell the difference la.. jus kasi sumbat to her only...

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post Feb 16 2012, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 16 2012, 12:09 AM)
pictures speaks a thousand words...

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although there 3 major types nowadays, there are still countless drop shapes, with some extending further, some shallower, some offering a straighter section at the bottom most... and then you have wing type aero tops, cinelli made some that sweeps back towards the rider.... very confusing... but highly self preferential..
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here is some explanation on compact bars by competitive cyclist...
thx butthead that pretty much summarize all my questions about handlebars notworthy.gif mine is FSA gossamer new ergo..but i couldnt identify whether it's a compact or anatomic round? i guess it's the latter am i correct?

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after watching the video i realized that even though I favor the traditional looks...what really matters is the shape that I comfort with..and I think mine is pretty ok..but i prefer the compact one..more reach towards the brake lever and shifter.

gotta save money from buying expensive handlebar...better saves money on wheelset thumbup.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 08:57 PM

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scheduled daily ridiculous poison commencing...

extralite hubs laced to enve 1.25
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rear wheel weight...i bet even your crank is heavier than this wheel...
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front wheel weight...
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combined weight...
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ze hubs...
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slighty heavier set...a quality build that uses spoke washers...
http://fairwheelbikes.com/enve-125-extrali...set-p-2901.html


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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Feb 16 2012, 08:52 PM)
thx butthead that pretty much summarize all my questions about handlebars  notworthy.gif mine is FSA gossamer new ergo..but i couldnt identify whether it's a compact or anatomic round? i guess it's the latter am i correct?

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after watching the video i realized that even though I favor the traditional looks...what really matters is the shape that I comfort with..and I think mine is pretty ok..but i prefer the compact one..more reach towards the brake lever and shifter.

gotta save money from buying expensive handlebar...better saves money on wheelset  thumbup.gif
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from that angle.. i think they are traditional ergo round... there is no straight sections on it...

the difference between those bars are how you utilize the drops... could it be that your handlebar is of the wrong width? generally you measure handlebar width with your shoulders.. you hook the drops onto your shoulders and it should be as wide as your shoulders

for the lack of a better picture..
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lets not talk carbon.. but generally the few bars that i trust and is quite value for money are the FSA alloys, probike gear PLTs, or Deda RHMs... easton ea30 or 50 is considerable too if the price is right...this are usually RM150 to RM250 price range bars...

as i mentioned before.. bars, stems and seatpost don't really give much effect other than weight reduction on scaled... a wheel will get you more noticeable difference for what i think...

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post Feb 16 2012, 09:20 PM

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i took a picture of my handlebar..issit a traditional drop shape? looks kinda weird to me..
haha btw what is the price of your poisonous wheel post? tongue.gif

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post Feb 16 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Feb 16 2012, 09:20 PM)
i took a picture of my handlebar..issit a traditional drop shape? looks kinda weird to me..
haha btw what is the price of your poisonous wheel post?  tongue.gif

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looks like compact from this angle... it swept right down after the lever hoods..

expect no less than 2.5k USD... anyways, not available here... wheelbuilder.com will be happy to build you a set and ship it to you... but most of us will just chicken out before clicking on checkout...
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post Feb 16 2012, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 16 2012, 08:36 PM)
she can't tell the difference la.. jus kasi sumbat to her only...
Won't work. She's got herself fitted before when I brought her to my usual bike shop cry.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Feb 16 2012, 10:31 PM)
Won't work. She's got herself fitted before when I brought her to my usual bike shop  cry.gif
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jus tell her they are idiots and you are right... trust them or trust you?

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post Feb 16 2012, 11:18 PM

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Butthead,

i guess crashing is part and parcel of the life as a pro cyclist. I got good lecture from my parent about not to ride the bike anymore. I was like "wat the heck" lor. Perhaps i need time to heal myself and start over from step 1. But i dunno where to start again? rclxub.gif Wanna practice my clipless pedal and repiar my bike first maybe get myself a 2nd bike for practice/sparebike rclxub.gif

Is it okay to post up my injury picture here? Not as bad as that day itself. Most is healing well except the tigh part which take some longer time. My face were healed already which i happy about it biggrin.gif

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post Feb 16 2012, 11:24 PM

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haha. i also have the thought of getting another bike for easy ride and perhaps riding them hard enough without feeling guilty..perhaps a 2nd hand roadbike 1.5k and below budget...or could be another new low end merida...

but my cycling friend advise me not to have 2 bikes...better focus on one bike and upgrade it to the max (if you really keen to increase performance of the bike etc etc). but somehow I really want to have 2 bike..1 treated like a king..another 1 like a slave tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 16 2012, 11:18 PM)
Butthead,

i guess crashing is part and parcel of the life as a pro cyclist. I got good lecture from my parent about not to ride the bike anymore. I was like "wat the heck" lor. Perhaps i need time to heal myself and start over from step 1. But i dunno where to start again? rclxub.gif  Wanna practice my clipless pedal and repiar my bike first maybe get myself a 2nd bike for practice/sparebike  rclxub.gif
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parents are protective by nature.. you have to understand their concerns... start by riding flats first.. and dun go too fast... once you get comfortable with a bit of speed on the flats... then you try descents again....

you need to learn how to steer the bike and not steering it just with handlebar inputs... you need to learn to use your body weight and body to maneuver your bike... be agile practically... if you are stiff... your bike follows you and you find it very hard to turn...

i used to like descents a lot... can take shit loads of risk riding down technical ones like gohtong jaya - batang kali and leaning into turns without fear that the tyre will let go under our bikes... and we try to hit 3 figures on roads that are not straight down...

nowadays... jus too chicken shit to do it... maybe got older, maybe shrunken pair of nuts... dunno... comes with age i guess...

go ahead.. unless your picture is something really gross...


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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Feb 16 2012, 11:24 PM)
haha. i also have the thought of getting another bike for easy ride and perhaps riding them hard enough without feeling guilty..perhaps a 2nd hand roadbike 1.5k and below budget...or could be another new low end merida...

but my cycling friend advise me not to have 2 bikes...better focus on one bike and upgrade it to the max (if you really keen to increase performance of the bike etc etc). but somehow I really want to have 2 bike..1 treated like a king..another 1 like a slave tongue.gif
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generally.. some people have 2 bikes because they use 1 for training and the other one... usually maxed out with top end parts for race days or pre-race day trainings...

i mean... how much bashing can you give your bike that it might degrade it???

it's not like you throw your bike on the floor or stuff like that... and most of the time, you will end up riding the better one since you don't find a purpose for the beater bike...

i ride mine for usual rides, going to work on weekends and stuff and sometimes to pasar if i lazy to drag the mtb out... a do it all bike..

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Feb 16 2012, 11:24 PM)
haha. i also have the thought of getting another bike for easy ride and perhaps riding them hard enough without feeling guilty..perhaps a 2nd hand roadbike 1.5k and below budget...or could be another new low end merida...

but my cycling friend advise me not to have 2 bikes...better focus on one bike and upgrade it to the max (if you really keen to increase performance of the bike etc etc). but somehow I really want to have 2 bike..1 treated like a king..another 1 like a slave tongue.gif
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Don't really see the point of having 2 bikes though.. Unless one is a MTB and one is a road bike
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 16 2012, 11:28 PM)
parents are protective by nature.. you have to understand their concerns... start by riding flats first.. and dun go too fast... once you get comfortable with a bit of speed on the flats... then you try descents again....

you need to learn how to steer the bike and not steering it just with handlebar inputs... you need to learn to use your body weight and body to maneuver your bike... be agile practically... if you are stiff... your bike follows you and you find it very hard to turn...

i used to like descents a lot... can take shit loads of risk riding down technical ones like gohtong jaya - batang kali and leaning into turns without fear that the tyre will let go under our bikes... and we try to hit 3 figures on roads that are not straight down...

nowadays... jus too chicken shit to do it... maybe got older, maybe shrunken pair of nuts... dunno... comes with age i guess...

go ahead.. unless your picture is something really gross...

The problem is that my place is kinda hilly which is seriously good place to train as climber. That how my accident happen as to go flatland i first had to go tru some downhill slope first (that where it happens). Not sure now how to do it, i guess i will walk downhill first then ride on the flatland rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 16 2012, 11:41 PM)
The problem is that my place is kinda hilly which is seriously good place to train as climber. That how my accident happen as to go flatland i first had to go tru some downhill slope first (that where it happens). Not sure now how to do it, i guess i will walk downhill first then ride on the flatland  rclxub.gif
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Just take it easy on the descends instead of speeding all the way down
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QUOTE(malleus @ Feb 16 2012, 11:44 PM)
Just take it easy on the descends instead of speeding all the way down
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How ar? just hold down the rear brake while decending? I have to admit my body is kinda stiff. The LBS ppl told me to be relek while on bike.
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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 16 2012, 11:58 PM)
How ar? just hold down the rear brake while decending? I have to admit my body is kinda stiff. The LBS ppl told me to be relek while on bike.
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no lar.. not until holding it all the way.. brake gently, release, brake gently, release, etc...
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first time tire punctured.. at 5.000 km markk.. have to carry my bike back to my house.. luckily it's just 1km apart..

tmr need to go bike shop edil..
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Feb 17 2012, 12:53 AM)
first time tire punctured.. at 5.000 km markk.. have to carry my bike back to my house.. luckily it's just 1km apart..

tmr need to go bike shop edil..
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Wao, what tayar you use. Really last quite long wor. I gussed you maintian proper pressure too?
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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 17 2012, 12:55 AM)
Wao, what tayar you use. Really last quite long wor.  I gussed you maintian proper pressure too?
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Can be just unlucky I guess. Even a good tire can get a puncture at 1km if you run over sharp nails tongue.gif
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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 16 2012, 11:58 PM)
How ar? just hold down the rear brake while decending? I have to admit my body is kinda stiff. The LBS ppl told me to be relek while on bike.
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you jus ride at a sensible speed.. say if you feel 40kph is too fast and you are uncomfortable with it.. set it at 30 or 25... once you go over.. you scrub it off by pulling on the brakes...

there is no gain by flying down a descent at 70-80kph... cars on the road won't like it and you are at more risk...

when comes corners... learn to steer your bike into the turn without much steering input... this is very hard to explain as it already comes natural to us.. you sort of lean your bike into it rather than steer into it...

but most importantly.. you need to judge how fast you can enter a turn... and take off enough speed before the turn so that you can make the turning into it... take off more than you think is enough to be safe...

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Feb 17 2012, 12:53 AM)
first time tire punctured.. at 5.000 km markk.. have to carry my bike back to my house.. luckily it's just 1km apart..

tmr need to go bike shop edil..
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why don't you keep 2 spare tubes at home? so you can repair it rather than having to rush to the shops everytime you need to ride the next day... they are relatively cheap...

luckily you don't have to walk in your cleats... a short 3 or 4KM walk can already destroy enough of the road cleats...

QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 17 2012, 12:55 AM)
Wao, what tayar you use. Really last quite long wor.  I gussed you maintian proper pressure too?
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i think he meant that he punctured 5 kilometers into his ride... and luckily he was looping his house area and was only 1KM from it...

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 17 2012, 12:55 AM)
Wao, what tayar you use. Really last quite long wor.  I gussed you maintian proper pressure too?
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hmm it's 5.000km from yesterday's ride not 5000km .. my bike odometer only around 160~170km max... less than what lotsa ppl did in one day...

QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 17 2012, 09:04 AM)

why don't you keep 2 spare tubes at home? so you can repair it rather than having to rush to the shops everytime you need to ride the next day... they are relatively cheap...
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That's what I am going to do.. Learn how self repair and get a spare tube

That day after taking out my tire and reinstalling, i realised that I accidently adjusted the brake too near to the tire.. there's some melted rubber on the rims now.. aiks..

Do you guys deflate the tire a bit when you remove tour tire? izzit normal that you have to force through a bit through your brake calipers

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