Usually when rakyat want to turn down current government there is only fight against the rakyat and government (or police). Other rakyat even if no support de movement only remain silence.

But rare case in Malaysia here is that there are groups who are anti bersih movement. How can we convince other country in this case where there are even dispute in own rakyat.

just wait and watch news around the world.

fail big time .... no sexy amoi/awek

Kita jumpa semula tahun depan dalam BerShit6.0

in the end

Dirty

Bersih's main aim is 'to create awareness'.

The problem is, most people across the political spectrum already knew what is happening, but they refuse to act either because

1. it will mess with their periuk nasi

or

2. they themselves are main benefactors of the corrupt system

or

3. they fear for their own lives, and maybe their families' too.

It's easy to talk about 'doing your part' and all that shit, but the choices that matter the most often have the highest risk.

With so many assholes on /k and in malaysia in general, i cant help but to wonder why i should take a lifetime of suffering for myself and my family to save this country while benefiting racists, swindlers, my ex and all the people who looked down on me, almost destroyed my career or treat me like shit? I dont owe them anything.

^ this bigger fail

Perhaps!?

Lucky you have sunday to rest

that turned dark REAL fast

Msia gg....

failed..low turnout..

Like those anti trump protest in U.S. They're just a minority.

See u again in Bersih 6.0!

Bcs we have Bersih 5

We have

Police tumbuk saya....Police tumbuk saya....cry...cry..

Sure is not fail

I don't know about you guys, bit this rally worked for me. At least for why I attended.

Do I expect anything to change? No.

So why was I there? Defiance. It's to show Jibby that we are not afraid of him.

You can threaten us with violence. We will still show that we are not happy with his misrule and are not afraid of his scare tactics.

Yellow 1 Red 0

true.. got few only hngghh legs today.

Dengan kata lain nak tunjuk "Gedeber" tak kisah kalau orang kata bodoh pasal buang masa, tenaga dan duit. Baiklah jumpa semula tahun depan dalam BerShit 6.0

Mana jamal!! X sabar2 nk hantam him....come KLCC !

Bersih 5 many malay join


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true. just checkout all food outlets... full of bersih ppl.

bersih is sending a message to the world that bijan is a crook, useless, corrupt, tyrant and other etc bad thing. so if he don't step down, other country will slowly stop investing in this country and economy will get worse and worse. so now we should start ready pop corn to wait and to see bijan will grab on to his money or position at the cost of country economy or not

Najib dont feel malu ka...every year so many ppl join Bersih....its a failure where the whole nations wanted u to step down

Bersih 5 is a success where we manage to conquer KLCC

The police,fru,rela and etc nvr expect wr change the plan out of sudden and ppl reaching there as quick as it has been announced

And now the whole KLCC covered with yellow....KLCC is a good place IMO....is the center of KL and main tourist spot...FRU also cant do anything here....

Good job Bersih 5.0....will continue nxt year

bersih failure to provoke peaceful malaysian. pdrm good jobs take fast action catch bersih gangleaders and red shirts also is smart not fall to yellow provokation and tricks thats prevented anythings bad happen

the thing is, we as normal rakyat can demonstrate on the street and stuff lidat. But we also need those with bigger influence to help us. Only normal rakyat is not enough. We need the big players to be on our side.

We can only do so much at our normal rakyat level. Nw see if investors, pegawai2, opposition leader, can help us push at higher power level or not.

more like a entertainment to me...but i do support bersih tho...

Whats the turnout? I saw a tweeter saying there were 200k ppl..

Achievement unlocked bersih 5

Coming soon bersih 6 in Putrajaya 2017

Exactly!

Obviously he will do the bolded. This bijan, most thick skin animal on the planet.

and again, i say this again. Some parts of sabah and sarawak, they dun have access to internet, astro, they only watch tv1, 2, and 3. And who control those media?

Plus have u watch bijan's Budget negara that day? he still continue to give facilities to sabahan and sarawakian, buying their votes. He is allocating money to build infrastructure to them, in return buying their votes. Our reach now is to those rakyat that has no internet or astro access. We need to wake them up!

If they do next one in putrajaya, I will join, a bit more sense to do it there.

Sure have one

Aldy a tradition festival in Malaysia

Should put inside visit malaysia brouchere

And still working next monday, and things are still expensive and life is getting harder, see u in bersih 6

Bro i know we have a lot of disagreement in the past but thank you for attending bersih this year.

I hav to go back kampung, emergency. If not i already there this year.

Let the butthurt hurt their butt when we doing something for changes. All they do is cry when price of goods went up but still jilat bijan.

then why don't u put in ur opinion?

Purpose of bersih
1. Sell food
2. Sell drink
3. Took photo
4. Post on fb
5. Get like

Syukur selamat sampai Peru

Takut di msia...malu wehhhg

Org kampung earn so much right now esp because of palm oil rally... I think some even earn 5 digit figure now.. Mahathirs time these kg ppl earn rm400 rm500/month and now they feel like their livelihood is better..they know 1mdb is somewhat problematic but not to the point to change him and bn
And let me tell u how these PR parties work last ge. My parliment is 50 50 malays vs non malays between dap indian and mic indian.
The indian mic has support from umno kg so he came to this district with majority of malays living there and giving speeches in Malay kg and donating to mosque and suraus. The dap Indian guy not once bothered to visit the Malay kampung instead used pas to ask to vote dap. How could they wish to know what ur parties stand for?
In the end bn won by thin margin.
My advice to ph is focus on kg areas. Come with amanah and pkr to rural and semiurban folks. Give ceramah there

This post has been edited by Noyoudontcare: Nov 19 2016, 05:43 PM

Tunjuk tong simen je, you orang semua diam diam jugak.

If every single yellow shirt queue up at police station lodge report against suspected corruption done b Najib, then i respek.

Dont just lepak at street side and tell people "hey hey you want to know why i join bersih?? I know you didnt ask but i still want to tell you i join because im not afraid of najib blah blah blah...."

#imsobrave #justice

You and your funny ideas.

You think nobody filed police report against Jibby? How did that turn out?

Oh, and you coming into this thread and reading is similar to asking so you can STFU.

I see so much patriotic in /k pls continue bersih

Or we could demand that we get back our urban vote value back instead of this bullshit where the kampungs get to decide who runs this country and the urban vote has no value.

Oh yea that's how yellow shirt responds to an idea? By saying that's funny and anyone against yellow shirt should just shut the fark up? Dont have any points or facts to support your own objective to rally?

Nowadays both red and yellow is the same. Full of kuda but not people who actually fight for the nation.

This post has been edited by apj8188: Nov 19 2016, 05:47 PM

Bijan thank you for your understanding.


Bijan

An awareness is to use UN embargo and sanctions on malaysian people. i wonder if malaysian knew this. people especially the city folks will suffer the most.

If you want Najib to step down, someone have to be sacrifice by death. the question is who?

pua? kit siang? maria?
look at turkey, backfire by the military coup. only the whole malaysian can topple najib in at least few weeks. the question is , are you willing to forego civilization to rebuilt a new system?

don't shiok sendiri. i read the news that ambiga even stops public to go forward the barricades.
by the way, who cares of this small country anyway, nobody even know where malaysia really is. last time i spoke to a mat salleh, he thought malaysian were mostly aborigines because he saw cuti cuti malaysia ads showing sarawakian dayak dancing with underwear made of leaves ..

This post has been edited by hackwire: Nov 19 2016, 05:57 PM

erm..thai&indon bersih version more hardcore.if najib rules that country,im sure he in cell now makan bubur..

so successful that BN will continue to win

Think it's less effective. The target group of rural folks haven't really been reached. We've saturated the support of urban people.

Need to target the young as well. Still too many are not registered voters and don't care about the country's politics until it's too late.

And you are fighting for this nation by being a keyboard warrior?

Good job. Keep up the good fight you.

im not sure but IMO , i think the venue for this time round is much more effective than Dataran merdeka....in fact i think they shud cont held at KLCC ...this is a good gather point for many ppl

gogogo BERSIH 6.0 @ KLCC

At least i dont go out casuing one day traffic jam in city and then sunday sleep at home for whole day and life goes as usual on monday.

Creating inconvenience to the nation is just not helping the country either.

If really want najib to give up, go make massive report lodging nationwide.

thats right, the last time i voted, where got young people.
bersih is just a purgatory of their hidden desire but when comes to voting, they are still in bed.

I first know about Bersih is Bersih 2.0, but indeed i did not felt how Bersih would give impact and pressure to government.
But now see Bersih is like going to annual carnival event. Some go there take photo only.

Big sacrification is something what Malaysian lack in the demo.

1) Extend the demonstration time.
Which country on earth do peace demonstration/protest from 10pm to 6am (8 hours) on Saturday...... mega_shok.gif
Summore hide below shelter because of matahari terik.
At least give it a week. If still have more than 50% of people attend, then only we talk.
Best if protest and mogok until the government make a change.

2) Bad weather is actually a gift
I see peace demonstration people are thinking of hope no rain lar. And some even say no rain = god is with us.
I felt the other indeed. Rain heavily (or even hailstorm on that day) only means god is on your side.
Standing in open area with heavy rain and hailstorm occurs only shows the determination of a protester, and i believe that this will make into headline and become a world debatable issue.

3) No food and drink during the demonstration, and no UMBRELLA as well
This is to create awareness and make public memo to the world that how serious the issue is. Well, we have 30-hour famine, and i don't think that this is issue since the demo not even last a day.

4) Everyone kneel down in a specific place (best in tar road)
Everyone knows how to stand and sit (as it is more comfortable), but not everyone can kneel down. Yes, you kneel down there and take whatever papan.

5) Don't run when shot water and tear gas
Just stay there. If they want shoot let them shoot.

To make it to the news and become a public debatable issue, you need a headline and popcorn story to tell.

In b4 supporter will say TS contribute wat, only keyboard warrior.
I am just giving concrete suggestion that will improve the chances of change

the motive is good but the execution is bad.
like some other forum we said, it's more like a feel good rally.

yes you make noise, yes you shout, yes you protest.
in the end nothing really happens, what really happens is that their instagram and face book feeds will prolly have one or more pictures to show off that they went to this mega anti government rally that supposedly mean something

after all the bullshit scandals and horrible things happening. malaysians still not angry enough to trigger something bigger and more effective.

it's just barely enough to go out and go to a feel good rally to tell the government yeah we don't like you, oh 5pm already bye gotta work on monday. saturday i'll upload pictures for my friends to like and see.

if you really support Bersih, stop sending your child to govt schools including chinese one. the corruption roots begin there as well. don't be hypocrisy.

Why dont they go and create awareness in kg area? Provide fresh water and electricity to rural area. Show that they can do better job than ruling gov. Bersih is pointless. First bersih i still can brain, to clean up our electoral system. Now its like meh.

to me, the leaders not hungry enough and at the back of their mind is the safety of their children. like this how to lead forward. public want to march forward , ambiga refuse but want to follow police order. like that, she claimed she had won.. shiok sendiri.

Meanwhile Bijan still joget-joget at home.

That doesn't do a damned thing aside from causing more paperwork for our police force when they should be patrolling our streets instead.

That's why your idea sucks.

you know what's more effective? protest in the administrative city (you know where)
and them camp there for days, effectively shutting down the government

What is the goal of Bersih?

yeah i agree.
Bersih is half bake kind of commitment. follow this and follow that. no provocation etc etc... if like that don't provoke citizen to march for u loh.. is like letting the Red shirt bully u and your hands are tight behind.
i rather use my energy to vote in the election. if kalah, accept the reality lah.. life goes on.

But Putrajaya has limited public transport system.

Once Bijin play dirty just like what it did this morning. Road block. The protester number going to be headline tv3 " sokongan rakyat pada bersih putar"

Bersih aim is educating public of certain issue via no violence.

Before u comment pls do some basic research

Yellow shirt can only come up with such excuse? I thought you said you join bersih to send the message to najib you are not afraid of him? If all yellow shirt dare to make report everyday at pdrm who obviously protecting najib, then you are sending message.

Causing traffic jam is sending nothing.

All the patrol police is the same one who sit in police station front desk to handle complaint lodged? Seriously this is the common sense that yellow shirt has? No wonder they thought causing traffic jam one day per year at city centre will make a difference.

While whole world laugh at him now with bbc ccn aljazeera abc etc headline.

Not forgetting the hotel portel at Peru also inside ketawa. This bagger pm....kkekeke. .

in the school report card, you either pass or fail.
pls do some research yourself , even phones ,softwares and PC have updates of Versions.
Any changes, i ask u? i do see some selfies, and some clowns with arab suits .. is this the Circus u are talking about. do some research yourself first .

if fail, then what's the next move???

occupy Putrajaya and Bursa Saham KL???

Oh. You not yet insaf when people ask u to do research before comments.

Waste of people time to read n what a joker.

Truth has and always will prevail over the forces of the evil

today's rally look more like 'perhimpunan sekolah' rather than anything...

just gather, carry posters, walk, take selfies, by afternoon all go home ady..dafaq is this..

atleast previous rally got memorandum passing, flaring speech by notorious activists n shit liddat

but today is just...mmehh..yeah..just mehhh..

yeah.. last time when politician fires up, they said the politician hijack their issue. so now, become pandan rally.

not like protester in other country at all

ashamed tho

When Bijin turn on TV. All cbn bbc aljazeera Peru news channel all memburukkannya corrupt curi useless.bijin is now crying like jamal did....Police tembuk saya.

Najib must be like
"Hmmm..well they gathered together..but..I dunno man..doesn't seem like they really hate me or anything..they must be not hating me just enough yet...deep inside, they still like me..welp, back to arresting more 1MDB whistleblowers then~"

Even Cow news in NZ gets the headline in CNN. Bersih not a hot news.

Trump said. Ada aku kesah?

Meanwhile......



Yeah...BerShit is SHIT.

Hehe he. ...


Truth has and always will prevail over the forces of the evil

I loled on my bed

Wtf man tat goyang goyang dance so sexy

Why no riot? Ayam disappointed

how long u gonna wait? 3 more years? watch news then what? najib still rule...u cant even do anything.. lets put scenario, more than 500k gather BERSIH maybe BERSIH 9 la...then what? u all eat popcorn, walk, taking pictures and etc...but still that stupid bijan rule...if this the best BERSIH can do to rally then its fail. think something else.

Yeah like how PIJI and LGE endup right now. Ahahahahahaha.......

This post has been edited by darthboyzzee: Nov 19 2016, 06:39 PM

Freedom of speech earlier you pointed out I was out of topic in bersih live thread but this thread is to discuss whether bersih is a failure or not and that's what we are doing. You keep asking people to STFU when they disagree with you. Sounds much like what BN leaders would do.


We been asking for that for ages, since bersih 2.0, yet EC keeps doing redeliniation every time and each time it is to the disadvantage of the urban voters.

Now you want to do the same thing again and again although it's been proven not to work multiple times in the past. Like a broken record...

Like it or not, convincing rural voters to stop voting BN is the key, yet people like you don't even bother trying to do this and but instead believe that doing the same shit over and over again would yield different results.

We haven't even tried to convince kampung people properly even once. Why not try that first? What's the harm in it instead of repetitively doing something which didn't work in the past.

So you immediately assume don't join bersih = just sit in front of keyboard bang balls la?

Again, just because people don't do things your way don't mean that aren't doing anything. But I guess you've already made up your mind on what you want to believe.

Seeing the number of butthurt here, bersih already succeeded.

i would honestly say that bersih is a successful event without any violence

but achieved nothing in the end as usual

It's about sending the Message.

Every moment govt head greeting n meet Bijin.

They will laugh this bagger pencuri pm....kekeke ke

So yes.

Truth has and always will prevail over the forces of the evil

We didn't need them to come out or close the city. Our gomen paranoid only.

Past rallies have been peaceful. They just want to overreact.

but red shirt also claimed they have succeeded in stopping Bersih yellow shirt in DAtaran MErdeka. Seem true too. must be butthurt isn't it . merdeka is untouchable. so no freedom for your cause yet.

As long as ppl like u triggered .... Lalalala

Oh. Did u see successful wirld pm singing dancing to entertain other?

Only Bijin does.

Truth has and always will prevail over the forces of the evil

Omg see yellow shirt.



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im ok, i like to trigger people like u who shiok sendiri , the cockroach who can't accept the failure of so many update version. forever using china made phone. too bad for u.

his red shirt is crippled .not even arrest of activists can held the movement.