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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Avangelice
post Dec 7 2016, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2016, 12:26 PM)
Piap piap?
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barter system. trade my portfolio management services for sex. *sweat*
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post Dec 7 2016, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 12:22 PM)
and I jokingly told her that people get paid to help other people manage their portfolios and below is her reply

[07/12, 12:14 PM]  cuz the thing I do for you is what wealth managers charge 1% of your total savings per year
[07/12, 12:14 PM] still help you top up summore

[07/12, 12:14 PM] Well, I let u feel me up
[07/12, 12:14 PM] That's smth
[07/12, 12:14 PM] Men hv to pay for tat
[07/12, 12:14 PM] But u get it for free

women.
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she has a point. that over 1% service charge anytime.
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post Dec 7 2016, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 7 2016, 12:31 PM)
she has a point. that over 1% service charge anytime.
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what the fuck ahahhahahahah that didn't cross my mind at all!!!
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post Dec 7 2016, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 12:31 PM)
what the fuck ahahhahahahah that didn't cross my mind at all!!!
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you're welcome! thumbup.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 6 2016, 11:01 PM)
it's never too late and it's good that your eyes have finally been opened that you can be your own investor.

Anyways you will need some questions answered.

1)how much bullets do you have to build your portfolio?

I'm planning to start off with 20k

2)what is your risk appetite? do you want. a low to high risk? low risk generally have returns around 4% to 7% where as high risk portfolio brings in 8 to 10 (or more)

Wouldn't mind investing in a higher risk investment.

3)have you read about the portfolio approach when investing?

Don't have much experience about portfolio management though i do have some experience in trading as I've been trading passively.

4) India is a very volatile fund to have and same goes with TA Global and do you know where these funds are investing and the companies/industry involved? eg TA Global invests in Facebook, Microsoft, and Apple.

Bond funds were always out of my radar though TA Global definitely caught my attention as I've been a strong fan of technological stocks due to the fact that it tends to grow aggressively on average.

5)do you know that each region are given star ratings? if so Asian ex Pac or emerging market funds are the way to go in 2017.

Thanks, ill check that out

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Hey I've answered your questions in bold.
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post Dec 7 2016, 01:25 PM

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Added new fund into EPF -MIS

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/web/kwsp/...vestment-scheme

ponzi 1, cimb greater china, amreits , manulife india and etc also in... open more for diversify
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post Dec 7 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Dec 7 2016, 01:07 PM)
Hey I've answered your questions in bold.
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1) you can practice two different approaches to building your portfolio with the 20k you have.

first off know how to approach it via a diverse portfolio. please look into mine.


FSM Funds for 2017

Affin Hwang Select Bond.... (20%)

RHB Asian Income Fund. ....(15%)
Eastspring Emerging Market...(15%)
CIMB-P Asia Pac Dynamic ....(15%)

CIMB-P Greater China Equity ..(10%)

Manulife India.........(10%)
AmAsia REITs .... (10 %)
TA Global Technology Fund...(5%)

from there you can use the Dollar cost averaging approach or the Value cost averaging approach.

2) DCA.

divide your 20k either into months and buy funds based on the funds allocated per month.

example.

20k divided by 12 months which means you have 1666 myr to play around per month. use this allocation to buy into the funds and always remember to keep the allocation that you see on top.

2) Value cost averaging.

use 20k now and lump sum your investment into buying everything and building your portfolio within a short time span.

eg myr 4000 (20%) into rhb AIF

and leave it there for a long time. come next December lump sum another myr 8000 into the same fund.

3) hybrid dca and VCA.

make huge lump sum across a shorter period.

MYR 1000 every month into each fund.

the approaches are different but it doesn't matter at the end of the day you will see almost the same results across the boards.

returns of investment.

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post Dec 7 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 01:32 PM)
1) you can practice two different approaches to building your portfolio with the 20k you have.

first off know how to approach it via a diverse portfolio. please look into mine.
FSM Funds for 2017

Affin Hwang Select Bond.... (20%)

RHB Asian Income Fund. ....(15%)
Eastspring Emerging Market...(15%)
CIMB-P Asia Pac Dynamic ....(15%)

CIMB-P Greater China Equity ..(10%)

Manulife India.........(10%)
AmAsia REITs .... (10 %)
TA Global Technology Fund...(5%)

from there you can use the Dollar cost averaging approach or the Value cost averaging approach.

2) DCA.

divide your 20k either into months and buy funds based on the funds allocated per month.

example.

20k divided by 12 months which means you have 1666 myr to play around per month. use this allocation to buy into the funds and always remember to keep the allocation that you see on top.

2) Value cost averaging.

use 20k now and lump sum your investment into buying everything and building your portfolio within a short time span.

eg myr 4000 (20%)  into rhb AIF

and leave it there for a long time. come next December lump sum another myr 8000 into the same fund.

3) hybrid dca and VCA.

make huge lump sum across a shorter period.

MYR 1000 every month into each fund.

the approaches are different but it doesn't matter at the end of the day you will see almost the same results across the boards.

returns of investment.
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Yes.. TLDR : diversify and be patient. Don't feel you have to care about stuff like expense ratios and sharpe ratios and whatnot. At the end of the day the difference is maybe 0.1% a year smile.gif

BTW https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...torareacode=FEY bloodbath or not, almost all funds collapsed last month.



This post has been edited by wodenus: Dec 7 2016, 01:56 PM
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post Dec 7 2016, 01:59 PM

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just not sure if this had been posted before ....
".......a promotion sales charge of 1.0% from 7 December 2016 till 14 December 2016. Take this opportunity to diversify your portfolio!"
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...les-Charge-7786
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post Dec 7 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 12:28 PM)
barter system. trade my portfolio management services for sex.  *sweat*
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Be careful friend don't be so gung-ho about it.....

If not properly covered prepared, those milk powder, diapers and vaccines expenses can really put a damper on your financial planning goals (and you can, say bye bye to that red hot sports car with 18" alloy sport rim). cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Refer to picture below bye.gif bye.gif bye.gif

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post Dec 7 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2016, 02:20 PM)
Be careful friend don't be so gung-ho about it.....

If not properly covered prepared, those milk powder, diapers and vaccines expenses can really put a damper on your financial planning goals (and you can, say bye bye to that red hot sports car with 18" alloy sport rim).  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

Refer to picture below  bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif

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pm best price for the black model. drool.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 7 2016, 02:27 PM)
pm best price for the black model.  drool.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 6 2016, 02:11 PM)
Good observation. I think 2016 been a challenging year and those who gone thru it realise their risk appetite and is reflecting that in their asset allocation. We still have some who are on 100% EQ and believe they can stomach the risk. If that decision is made conciously I guess it's fine
It's equity exposed, and this year's performance is dragged down by the lacklustre MY stock market. Personally I prefer to combo ponzi 1.0 and select bond
Interesting Select Income is classified as fixed income and therefore 0% sales charge and 0.2% platform fee per annum. But personally I still prefer select bond for its superior risk reward ratio
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There's a platform fee for bonds too right.
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post Dec 7 2016, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 11:22 AM)
it's a relative question. is it worth holding now or maybe two years down the road?

I switched because I want stability in my investments and Malaysia is not the best country to invest currently with its politics and racism.

maybe three years down the road it will be worth it.

perception is your reality.
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I don't think it's because of that. It's dying now because people voted for the socialists and fundamentalists in the last election. As a result the country has become more socialist and fundamentalist. Socialism and fundamentalism are not good for capitalist markets smile.gif


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post Dec 7 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 7 2016, 04:36 PM)
I don't think it's because of that. It's dying now because people voted for the socialists and fundamentalists in the last election. As a result the country has become more socialist and fundamentalist. Socialism and fundamentalism are not good for capitalist markets smile.gif
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but you do know we are talking about Ponzi 1.0 right where it's fund allocation is malaysia Philippines Singapore and etc
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 11:51 AM)
Just managed to talk to my girlfriend about pulling her money out of this endowment plan she was duped into buying with ocbc.

she told the banker she wants to maximize her savings and he told her they have a great investment plan. I went through the policy and found out its a endowment/life insurance plan.

she paid 10k for it and now if she takes out there's a penalty of 2k and every year she has to pay premium of 5.8k. total return doesn't even reach 4% annually with not guaranteed returns.

she took time to listen and instructed me to take the funds and asked me to manage her portfolio.

was thinking of 50% esther bond and 50% in rhb AIF.
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Is that diversified enough though.
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post Dec 7 2016, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 7 2016, 04:40 PM)
but you do know we are talking about Ponzi 1.0 right where it's fund allocation is malaysia Philippines Singapore and etc
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Oh oops, I did not see that in the post, sorry. Have that too, it's down 0.5% I think now smile.gif

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 7 2016, 01:59 PM)
just not sure if this had been posted before ....
".......a promotion sales charge of 1.0% from 7 December 2016 till 14 December 2016. Take this opportunity to diversify your portfolio!"
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...les-Charge-7786
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Not enuf funds to invest when there is so many promos ard same time
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2016, 02:20 PM)
Be careful friend don't be so gung-ho about it.....

If not properly covered prepared, those milk powder, diapers and vaccines expenses can really put a damper on your financial planning goals (and you can, say bye bye to that red hot sports car with 18" alloy sport rim).  cry.gif  cry.gif

Refer to picture below  bye.gif  bye.gif

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drool.gif drool.gif the red sports car looks sexy thumbsup.gif

move away the black model.. don't block my view ranting.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 7 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 7 2016, 04:40 PM)
Is that diversified enough though.
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how to diversify when malaysia is bleeding and US and Europe is still under speculation. of course switch to Asia ex Pac.

plus you dare to create an aggressive portfolio for your girlfriend or wife knowing she will kill you if you lose her money.

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