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 APPLE PAY IN MALAYSIA, Official arrives in Malaysia! Aug 2022!

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liberty0480
post Aug 27 2024, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Aug 20 2024, 09:59 PM)
Again, you shifted the discussion to why banks might not enable Apple Pay, which isn't directly related to the "Apple tax" or your assertion that "Banks will pass the cost to us!". All digital payment methods, whether it's Android Pay, Samsung Pay, TouchnGo, GrabPay or else, involve fees since none of these payment solution providers operate as non-profit entities, they all have a financial motive behind offering these services.

If we are talking about bank acceptance, nearly all banks and credit unions in the US, about 80% in the UK and Australia, and over half in most developed countries support Apple Pay. This shows that most banks are willing to give up a small cut to Apple in exchange for enhanced security and a better payment experience for their customers. In return, Apple Pay users use more of the bank's services, creating a win-win scenario.

Your HSBC and SCB credit cards impose fees regardless of whether you use Apple Pay, so it's amusing that you'd come to such a conclusion.
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The observations regarding the overwhelming support for Apple Pay among banks in the US, UK and Australia is definitely true, and I would like to point out a slightly different viewpoint on the Australian banking landscape.

I believe that the banks in Australia is NOT as willing to pay the cut to support Apple Pay as it seemed, here's why:
1. 3 out of the big 4 banks formed a cartel after Apple Pay's launch in Australia attempting to force Apple in allowing access to iPhone’s NFC function for payment
ANZ Bank was the first to launch Apple Pay in Australia in 2016 (Source). Soon after, the 3 big 4 banks alongside another bank attempted to form a cartel to pressure Apple into allowing them access to the NFC function for payment (Source).

The attempt failed in 2017 when the competition watchdog in Australia ruled against this cartel formation (Source).

2. All of the big 4 banks in Australia supported Apple Pay today due to competition
As mentioned above, the first Apple Pay bank support in Australia was 2016. Despite the cartel formation having failed in early-2017, it wasn't until early-2019 that the 2nd bank (Commonwealth Bank) joined the party (Source). What we noticed soon after is that both NAB (Source) and Westpac (Source) launched respective's support as well for Apple Pay in mid-2019 and early-2020 respectively.

For anyone interested, Commonwealth Bank is the largest in Australia with a sizeable margins whereas ANZ is either 3rd or 4th. The above may point towards that Commonwealth Bank's decision to support Apple Pay as the domino piece to push the other 2 uninitiated parties onto adopting and paying the cut to Apple.

3. Commonwealth Bank CEO's stance on tech firms including Apple
Some articles for your reading:
Commonwealth Bank CEO: Apple Needs ‘More Scrutiny’
Not enough scrutiny of Meta, Apple, Google, says CBA’s Matt Comyn


While I definitely hoped that all card issuers will offer Apple Pay to their cardholder, ultimately it remains a commercial decision to be made by the issuers.
With that said, RHB Bank's recently addition to the Malaysian Apple Pay line-up is definitely a step towards incentivising other card issuers to adopt Apple Pay so as to remain competitive!
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post Sep 30 2024, 03:37 PM

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Surprisingly I manage to add Maybank cards to iOS 18 wallet app.
Previously back and forth with Maybank CS and still unable to add card to the point I gave up.
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post Oct 24 2024, 06:42 PM

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Jasilu90
post Oct 24 2024, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 24 2024, 06:42 PM)
Wise supports Apple Pay now
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Isn't it supported for a while?
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post Oct 24 2024, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Oct 24 2024, 06:47 PM)
Isn't it supported for a while?
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is it? opps .... malu ..I only prompted today

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Jasilu90
post Oct 31 2024, 01:23 PM

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Add cards through nfc on Ios 18

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post Nov 1 2024, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Oct 31 2024, 01:23 PM)
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Add cards through nfc on Ios 18
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I tried.
But the card I want to add "UOB" does not support Apple Pay at all.
When will UOB MY actually realised that Apple Pay is useful for consumers.
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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Nov 1 2024, 02:28 PM)
I tried.
But the card I want to add "UOB" does not support Apple Pay at all.
When will UOB MY actually realised that Apple Pay is useful for consumers.
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Tell that to HLB, CIMB and PBB too. laugh.gif
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post Nov 1 2024, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(darren_yuri @ Nov 1 2024, 02:28 PM)
I tried.
But the card I want to add "UOB" does not support Apple Pay at all.
When will UOB MY actually realised that Apple Pay is useful for consumers.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 1 2024, 03:23 PM)
Tell that to HLB, CIMB and PBB too. laugh.gif
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the easier part is just applied those already available. to use applepay need to do integration and pay extra fees.
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 1 2024, 03:58 PM)
the easier part is just applied those already available. to use applepay need to do integration and pay extra fees.
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Yes, I already have those banks anyway but I don't add all in because no point using some of them for contactless.
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 1 2024, 03:58 PM)
the easier part is just applied those already available. to use applepay need to do integration and pay extra fees.
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Can't resist the UOB deal + my company using it.
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post Nov 1 2024, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 1 2024, 03:58 PM)
the easier part is just applied those already available. to use applepay need to do integration and pay extra fees.
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Yes, this is a simpler way.
But different financial institutions offer different benefits, so I hope more banks will provide support Apple pay in the future.
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post Nov 1 2024, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 1 2024, 03:23 PM)
Tell that to HLB, CIMB and PBB too. laugh.gif
And AMBANK (debit cards)
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 1 2024, 05:50 PM)
And AMBANK (debit cards)
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so far only cc and ambank cc already support. if they support debit, then lose more money
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post Nov 2 2024, 04:23 PM

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In Australia most restaurants have a surcharge for the use of credit cards unless you insert your card in the machine and select to pay by EFTPOS. If I am traveling in Australia and have a Malaysian debit card that is on Apple Pay, can I use the EFTPOS method to avoid the credit card surcharge?

QUOTE(liberty0480 @ Aug 27 2024, 02:20 AM)
The observations regarding the overwhelming support for Apple Pay among banks in the US, UK and Australia is definitely true, and I would like to point out a slightly different viewpoint on the Australian banking landscape.

I believe that the banks in Australia is NOT as willing to pay the cut to support Apple Pay as it seemed, here's why:
1. 3 out of the big 4 banks formed a cartel after Apple Pay's launch in Australia attempting to force Apple in allowing access to iPhone’s NFC function for payment
ANZ Bank was the first to launch Apple Pay in Australia in 2016 (Source). Soon after, the 3 big 4 banks alongside another bank attempted to form a cartel to pressure Apple into allowing them access to the NFC function for payment (Source).

The attempt failed in 2017 when the competition watchdog in Australia ruled against this cartel formation (Source).

2. All of the big 4 banks in Australia supported Apple Pay today due to competition
As mentioned above, the first Apple Pay bank support in Australia was 2016. Despite the cartel formation having failed in early-2017, it wasn't until early-2019 that the 2nd bank (Commonwealth Bank) joined the party (Source). What we noticed soon after is that both NAB (Source) and Westpac (Source) launched respective's support as well for Apple Pay in mid-2019 and early-2020 respectively.

For anyone interested, Commonwealth Bank is the largest in Australia with a sizeable margins whereas ANZ is either 3rd or 4th. The above may point towards that Commonwealth Bank's decision to support Apple Pay as the domino piece to push the other 2 uninitiated parties onto adopting and paying the cut to Apple.

3. Commonwealth Bank CEO's stance on tech firms including Apple
Some articles for your reading:
Commonwealth Bank CEO: Apple Needs ‘More Scrutiny’
Not enough scrutiny of Meta, Apple, Google, says CBA’s Matt Comyn
While I definitely hoped that all card issuers will offer Apple Pay to their cardholder, ultimately it remains a commercial decision to be made by the issuers.
With that said, RHB Bank's recently addition to the Malaysian Apple Pay line-up is definitely a step towards incentivising other card issuers to adopt Apple Pay so as to remain competitive!
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post Nov 2 2024, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(mikey8811 @ Nov 2 2024, 04:23 PM)
In Australia most restaurants have a surcharge for the use of credit cards unless you insert your card in the machine and select to pay by EFTPOS. If I am traveling in Australia and have a Malaysian debit card that is on Apple Pay, can I use the EFTPOS method to avoid the credit card surcharge?
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No, EFTPOS is AU’s local payment network, to avoid using Visa/Mastercard’s fees. It’s only available for Australian cards, like how only Canadian cards have INTERAC and only Japanese cards have QuIC. Here, what we have locally is MyDebit - there are rumours that Apple plans to support it soon.

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post Nov 8 2024, 08:19 PM

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Setel now supports Apple Wallet

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post Nov 11 2024, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Nov 8 2024, 09:19 PM)
Setel now supports Apple Wallet

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Does the wallet card supported live points update? anyone tried?
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QUOTE(dannytwk @ Nov 11 2024, 04:00 PM)
Does the wallet card supported live points update? anyone tried?
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post Nov 11 2024, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(FishGuts @ Nov 11 2024, 05:33 PM)
Yes
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