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Credit Cards Hong Leong Bank Wise Credit Card V8, 10% Cashback , Up to RM100 per month

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Human Nature
post Jul 27 2016, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 27 2016, 11:26 PM)
I guess it all started I never put the word "if", my bad on this.
Anyway, what I want to point is, is there any source on sure transaction +1 to get posted? Even the card center's officers cannot tell and confirm on this.
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It was stated as "in general" which can also be loosely translated as "rule of thumb", ie. a broadly accurate guide or principle, based on experience or practice rather than theory. Over here, we share experience and tips.

QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ Jul 27 2016, 11:27 PM)
after cancel the card, how long need to wait to re-apply as new customer (to get waiver of 1st year annual fee)?

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I am more interested to know whether will they still approve your application first, do share your outcome. It would really be unWISE of them to allow it laugh.gif

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post Jul 27 2016, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 27 2016, 11:26 PM)
I guess it all started I never put the word "if", my bad on this.
Anyway, what I want to point is, is there any source on sure transaction +1 to get posted? Even the card center's officers cannot tell and confirm on this.
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He said "generally", so it doesn't really mean a die-die +1 day case.
Let's move on.

QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ Jul 27 2016, 11:27 PM)
after cancel the card, how long need to wait to re-apply as new customer (to get waiver of 1st year annual fee)?

thanks.
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Well, usually 6 months but they have the rights to reject your request. You wanna cancel yours? Have you stopped using it? Else you may not be able to get back your cash back as the card is cancelled?
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post Jul 27 2016, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 27 2016, 11:34 PM)
He said "generally", so it doesn't really mean a die-die +1 day case.
Let's move on.
Well, usually 6 months but they have the rights to reject your request. You wanna cancel yours? Have you stopped using it? Else you may not be able to get back your cash back as the card is cancelled?
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yea plan to cancel and re-apply, or everyone happily paying for the annual fee for this card ? hmm.gif
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post Jul 27 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ Jul 27 2016, 11:41 PM)
yea plan to cancel and re-apply, or everyone happily paying for the annual fee for this card ?  hmm.gif
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Yes, most of us happily paying for it since we maximize RM 100 every month.
I have been maximizing for RM 100 with RM 985 instead of RM 1k. So technically, one year, I will save RM 15x12 = RM 180 more than enough to pay for the AF+GST. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ Jul 27 2016, 11:41 PM)
yea plan to cancel and re-apply, or everyone happily paying for the annual fee for this card ?  hmm.gif
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I would continue to pay the AF if they card is still offering the same CB. Cancelling and re-applying sounds a bit risky. Win some, Lose some.
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QUOTE(rachel_xxx @ Jul 27 2016, 11:41 PM)
yea plan to cancel and re-apply, or everyone happily paying for the annual fee for this card ?  hmm.gif
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Depends on your spending pattern. I always max out every month, so annual fee is very worth it. It is one of my highest yielding cards even after deducting annual fee, the first being Public Bank VS (after taking into account promo cashback).

However, if you're underutilising the card, depending on your chosen categories, you can adopt a different strategy. For example, if you chose groceries and utilities, you could buy vouchers and overpay utility bills in the last few months, then cancel and use the overpayments during the cooling off period.
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post Jul 28 2016, 02:04 AM

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how to settle the uob payonline new 12 digits TNB account number showing Invalid Account No problem?

i can't manage to pay my tnb bill and is nearly end of the due date edi.

any1 can advise?
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post Jul 28 2016, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 27 2016, 11:40 PM)
Nope, it is still misleading. Experience does not means anything. Try to bring this up to court and see what the judge says.
Like you in general will just reverse your car from your house car porch without checking on traffic since you assume nobody will use that road, then in 1 fine day a lorry pass by and you do the same. At the end you have to stay in hospital due to serious injury. You sue that driver in court and using this excuse. What will be the end result?
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Eh, sounds like an old friend return di. Still wanna troll the same topic... Just jumping on the +1 day. Already Human Nature and the rest have said 'better don't spend' to be safe.
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post Jul 28 2016, 07:35 AM

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anyone here changed their cb category before?

i change my category on 28th april from Grocery to Travel and HLB charge me travel maintanence fee on 30th april statad EFF June and i double confirm with CSO that my travel category will start effective in June only.

but i found out that my May transaction for Grocery under Sam Groceria is not entitle for CB. So i called HLB 4 times. First 3 time CSO couldnt give me an answer right away and promise to call back within 3 working days but all failed. the 4th one answer my question directly and said May i only entitle for Petrol and Mobile category where 1 of my category will be inactive until June only.

is this true? anyone of you encounter this situation before? shall i email HLB? or call again?
thanks!
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QUOTE(yujin86 @ Jul 28 2016, 07:35 AM)
anyone here changed their cb category before?

i change my category on 28th april from Grocery to Travel and HLB charge me travel maintanence fee on 30th april statad EFF June and i double confirm with CSO that my travel category will start effective in June only.

but i found out that my May transaction for Grocery under Sam Groceria is not entitle for CB. So i called HLB 4 times. First 3 time CSO couldnt give me an answer right away and promise to call back within 3 working days but all failed. the 4th one answer my question directly and said May i only entitle for Petrol and Mobile category where 1 of my category will be inactive until June only.

is this true? anyone of you encounter this situation before? shall i email HLB? or call again?
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Should not be the case, present category stays until the new category is effective.
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QUOTE(mletee @ Jul 28 2016, 02:04 AM)
how to settle the uob payonline new 12 digits TNB account number showing Invalid Account No problem?

i can't manage to pay my tnb bill and is nearly end of the due date edi.

any1 can advise?
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I suggest to use the old 14 digits. Just paid last night and got the confirmation email.
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post Jul 28 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(mletee @ Jul 28 2016, 02:04 AM)
how to settle the uob payonline new 12 digits TNB account number showing Invalid Account No problem?

i can't manage to pay my tnb bill and is nearly end of the due date edi.

any1 can advise?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jul 28 2016, 08:49 AM)
I suggest  to use the  old 14 digits. Just paid last night and got the confirmation  email.
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Yeah, use the old 14 digit. I did it yesterday and received confirmation email
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post Jul 28 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 27 2016, 11:43 PM)
Yes, most of us happily paying for it since we maximize RM 100 every month.
I have been maximizing for RM 100 with RM 985 instead of RM 1k. So technically, one year, I will save RM 15x12 = RM 180 more than enough to pay for the AF+GST. biggrin.gif
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When i read this, i feel funny.. u use RM985 to get 100 rebate and the offset RM15 consider saving??
it just make ur cash back become 10.438413361169% per month instead of 10%..
effectively 8.717428087986% rebate (after annual fee) instead of 8.58666666% if you use RM1000 a month..

I dont see where u save the RM180 by doing the RM985 method.. lol
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QUOTE(IceLeo @ Jul 28 2016, 11:34 AM)
When i read this, i feel funny.. u use RM985 to get 100 rebate and the offset RM15 consider saving??
it just make ur cash back become 10.438413361169% per month instead of 10%..
effectively 8.717428087986% rebate (after annual fee) instead of 8.58666666% if you use RM1000 a month..

I dont see where u save the RM180 by doing the RM985 method.. lol
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Why not a saving? Or maybe my calculation sucks. It is pretty straightforward for me. Instead of spending RM 1000 per month to get RM 100, I only need to spend RM 985 and I get the same RM 100. So every month I save RM 15 (from my pocket) and one year, I save RM 180. No? unsure.gif

OK, I get you but to me the additional cash back's effectiveness is a saving for me because I don't need to spend additional RM 15 every month for the same cash back I will be getting.

Instead of spending RM 12000 per year to get RM 1200 cash back. I spend RM 11820 from my pocket per year to get RM 1200 cash back. That's already a difference of RM 180 there. I was saying a saving from my pocket, just as simple as that lo. smile.gif

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 28 2016, 11:43 AM)
Yes, our cash back's effectiveness is more than 10%.
Why not a saving? Or maybe my calculation sucks. It is pretty straightforward for me. Instead of spending RM 1000 per month to get RM 100, I only need to spend RM 985 and I get the same RM 100. So every month I save RM 15 (from my pocket) and one year, I save RM 180. No? unsure.gif
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Sorry sis, for this I have to say No. U just got a better rate of CB. Normally rm985 spends will give rm98.50 CB, but becos of your effort u get rm100 CB, an Untung of rm1.50.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 28 2016, 11:51 AM)
Sorry sis, for this I have to say No. U just got a better rate of CB. Normally rm985 spends will give rm98.50 CB, but becos of your effort u get rm100 CB, an Untung of rm1.50.
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Yes, I just calculated again. laugh.gif Now I got it. laugh.gif
Anyway, it is still worth to pay for the AF. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jul 28 2016, 11:43 AM)

Instead of spending RM 12000 per year to get RM 1200 cash back. I spend RM 11820 from my pocket per year to get RM 1200 cash back. That's already a difference of RM 180 there. I was saying a saving from my pocket, just as simple as that lo. smile.gif
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By spending less (rm11820) to get d same CB, u also get less stuffs worth rm180 ie u still need to use rm180 to buy this stuffs.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 28 2016, 11:56 AM)
By spending less (rm11820) to get d same CB, u also get less stuffs worth rm180 ie u still need to use rm180 to buy this stuffs.
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Hmm. True makes sense. laugh.gif That's why Finance was never my favourite subject in University. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 28 2016, 11:56 AM)
By spending less (rm11820) to get d same CB, u also get less stuffs worth rm180 ie u still need to use rm180 to buy this stuffs.
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Only if the stuff is essential. For example in the case of TNB bill no matter what you still will have to pay (maybe use another card which gives some smaller cashback). But if its unnecessary stuff then its different.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 28 2016, 11:59 AM)
Only if the stuff is essential. For example in the case of TNB bill no matter what you still will have to pay (maybe use another card which gives some smaller cashback). But if its unnecessary stuff then its different.
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Buy what u need n not what u want(unneccesary stuffs) ? But that is another topic.

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