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 LYN Official Perodua Bezza Club V1, The game changer

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post Jul 24 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(tigerporc @ Jul 24 2016, 10:06 AM)
Yes, more expensive as the the 1.3 advance has a different and bigger battery.

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what is the bigger battery size? ns60? it can be very expensive, quoting from Roda Pusing's podcast, it can be efficient from the fuel efficiency, but what about the battery & alternator maintainance cost? Went to another Perodua dealer today, no one even bother to approach, so its hard for me to get the booklet, sales must be good though, anyone got good sales rep? so far dealership, seems to offer some freebies, but perodua sales don't offer anything, except delivering car with priority & some tint voucher.
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 23 2016, 10:19 PM)
Just done some digging...the compressor is shut off during idle stop, the aircond is just wind from blower only...

Its seem that the car got temperature sensor, if its detect the internal temperature is increase to certain degree will disable the engine cut n restart the engine and the compressor as well...
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I see. Its good then.

QUOTE(apecx92 @ Jul 23 2016, 11:47 PM)
Got Axia now. Is it posibble to trade in (through SA) and get this bezza? Loan balance 28k

Seem bezza premium x manual look good to me.
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Can, heard can get car faster if trade in. Let me me know how much laku axia g manual. But confirm need to topup the remaining loan balance.
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Jul 24 2016, 10:59 AM)
I see.  Its good then.
Can, heard can get car faster if trade in. Let me me know how much laku axia g manual.  But confirm need to topup the remaining loan balance.
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mean i need to pay the remain loan balance lum sum?
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QUOTE(apecx92 @ Jul 24 2016, 11:01 AM)
mean i need to pay the remain loan balance lum sum?
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Not sure. But they can help to clear the remaining loan first. If want to sell by yourself the car need to clear from bank loan first before can do ownership transfer.
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post Jul 24 2016, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Jul 24 2016, 10:50 AM)
what is the bigger battery size? ns60? it can be very expensive, quoting from Roda Pusing's podcast, it can be efficient from the fuel efficiency, but what about the battery & alternator maintainance cost? Went to another Perodua dealer today, no one even bother to approach, so its hard for me to get the booklet, sales must be good though, anyone got good sales rep? so far dealership, seems to offer some freebies, but perodua sales don't offer anything, except delivering car with priority & some tint voucher.
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If u worry about battery price , forget about getting a car . A battery cost about rm150-Rm300 , can last for at least 2yrs ,if u travel in his highway frequently,at 50km per day . Unless u alwaz stay in jam , then ur battery die faster .


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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Jul 24 2016, 11:36 AM)
If u worry about battery price , forget about getting a car . A battery cost about rm150-Rm300 , can last for at least 2yrs ,if u travel in his highway frequently,at 50km per day . Unless u alwaz stay in jam , then ur battery die faster .
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A decent battery for myvi can cost close to RM200 plus minus. I do travel close up to 100km a day with jam at Federal Highway approx two hours a day. That is ns40 and it lasts 2 years as you said. Mind you that is the most basic battery and do take note that bezza require battery which is even higher than ns60. It's not about battery price and a car. But I think one should considerate this point while getting the car,

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Jul 23 2016, 11:53 PM)
p2 is not p1. no one is a pioneer of anything.

bezza is a sedan version of axia which is a rebadged Mira e:s. this platform are pretty old as it should be replaced in 1 or 2 more years.the idle stop, push start,TA,VSC are all coming straight from Mira es.

anyway ask to see the salesman book. there's they put the price list for maintaince for the next 5 years.

myvi icon is really outdated, the fc is the same as iriz
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More like base on Toyota Etios for India market.
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QUOTE(xperiaVuser @ Jul 24 2016, 12:07 PM)
source?  hmm.gif
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Google Toyota Etios you'll see lot's of similarities.
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Is it really a bad car?

I got my wife to book it the 1.3 advance version, just for normal driving to work and around the town.

Are the back seats really uncomfortable?
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QUOTE(Elantra333 @ Jul 24 2016, 02:24 PM)
Ask yourself this la...  in perodua 25 years of car making how many you can count as bad car compared to say proton?

Perodua have a solid and good history. This one will be the same
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Thank you...

Just to compare, I am replacing my 2001 perdana v6, runs great but getting old.

Also wife will use it to drive my kid to school and stuff.

Maybe somedays I might take it to work.

But on weekends there might be 4 adults and 1 car seat.
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QUOTE(kutitata @ Jul 24 2016, 02:35 PM)
Thank you...

Just to compare, I am replacing my 2001 perdana v6, runs great but getting old.

Also wife will use it to drive my kid to school and stuff.

Maybe somedays I might take it to work.

But on weekends there might be 4 adults and 1 car seat.
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Test drove the 1.3 Advance variant. What i should say is what u pay is what u get. Dont expect anything better than vios or city or any of your b segment car.

The car feels heavy to be driven. So its very suitable for new drivers. But at the same time, it feels very lazy to move as well, so maybe thats how they manage to achieve a very good fuel consumption. Brake is decent for a perodua cars. A little throttle lag for this car too.

The eco idle sounds rough to me when the car auto restart back the engine. Yes, the aircond, radio and every other thing else operates except the engine, so no worries.

There is an electric power steering as per the SA, but to me, im like driving a larger car with hydraulic power steering, and the leather wrap on the advance variant steering dont feel any better. I would prefer the rubberised one. Same goes to the speedometer for the advance variant which looks abit cheapo to me. And the central locking isnt functional on the driver side's lock switch. Its only functional on the specially built-in central locking button found on the dash.

The entire car is from a very thin structure. The seats are short, so u feel there is alot of legrooms. The doors are thin and so u feel a little more spacious. The floors are super thin till u can feel every humps and lumps on the frame, especially the reat seats. The car is super light till the entire car shakes even when u close the door gently.

On the positive side, yes, it saves fuel and its a perodua! So, im pretty sure the maintenance cost and others comes in less expensive. Resale value for a perodua is rather good, afer all, we are malaysians and we prefer perodua, toyota, and honda just to name a few. It is spacious on the rear seat, and it looks alot more larger than the axia although it is of the same width amd height of the latter. The boot space i doubt thou as it appear not to be so spacious to me, or maybe its just me. However, hard plastics are to be found EVERYWHERE and the bold lining across the passanger dashboard isnt any piano black finishing.
What i do love is the feel when u open the door from the outside (or maybe its a new car) .. it feels so solid! Wear and tear maybe?

Anyway, to me, yes the car hits the right pricing spot. The only thing i would like to voice out is why the car is so underpowered!? I believe the similar engine used in indon variant avanza isnt that that bad. I would say attrage is a better car but of course u need to pay more. 1.2L mivec engine with low horsepower and torque count still gives u more satisfaction. Now there is a plus point for those who own an axia since axia feels better in overall because its small and cheapest, hence we dont demand more. Bezza, on the other hand, is more towards a game changer car and so ppl tend to expect more when the price is already so cheap.

To me, the difference of price between axia and bezza (of the same specs of course) is the cost for the extra boot (not including vsc, push start, etc which is missing on the axia)

Thats all for my review on the 1.3 advance variant smile.gif

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QUOTE(Elantra333 @ Jul 24 2016, 02:24 PM)
Ask yourself this la...  in perodua 25 years of car making how many you can count as bad car compared to say proton?

Perodua have a solid and good history. This one will be the same
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Just need to remind. Perodua hasn't make any cars yet. Even the Bezza is hundred percent upper body is in house design, the platform is still an axia. The axia platform is already mature from previous daihatsu model dated 2 years, plenty of carryover parts with existing tooling. Perodua hasn't design anything yet from a blank paper. As to say proton, the models which they developed from ground, is to be expected to have problems. Even the big brand, when they developed new model with new platform, there will be a problems. That is why automakers 'tested' their car from the country of origin, their own citizen will have to suffer with problems. After 8 months or so, then they exported the car to other countries, when that problems have been identified and resolved.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 24 2016, 01:07 PM)
Google Toyota Etios you'll see lot's of similarities.
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You Google Toyota Corolla axio also can see lot of similarities

Anyway the wheelbase and width of both car are different making the assumption it comes from 1 platform highly unlikely.
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Jul 24 2016, 11:36 AM)
If u worry about battery price , forget about getting a car . A battery cost about rm150-Rm300 , can last for at least 2yrs ,if u travel in his highway frequently,at 50km per day . Unless u alwaz stay in jam , then ur battery die faster .
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Premium X variant got no electronic stuff to worry about
It got no vsc though but neither is myvi
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QUOTE(ShengHeng @ Jul 24 2016, 03:01 PM)
Test drove the 1.3 Advance variant. What i should say is what u pay is what u get. Dont expect anything better than vios or city or any of your b segment car.

The car feels heavy to be driven. So its very suitable for new drivers. But at the same time, it feels very lazy to move as well, so maybe thats how they manage to achieve a very good fuel consumption. Brake is decent for a perodua cars. A little throttle lag for this car too.

The eco idle sounds rough to me when the car auto restart back the engine. Yes, the aircond, radio and every other thing else operates except the engine, so no worries.

There is an electric power steering as per the SA, but to me, im like driving a larger car with hydraulic power steering, and the leather wrap on the advance variant steering dont feel any better. I would prefer the rubberised one. Same goes to the speedometer for the advance variant which looks abit cheapo to me. And the central locking isnt functional on the driver side's lock switch. Its only functional on the specially built-in central locking button found on the dash.

The entire car is from a very thin structure. The seats are short, so u feel there is alot of legrooms. The doors are thin and so u feel a little more spacious. The floors are super thin till u can feel every humps and lumps on the frame, especially the reat seats. The car is super light till the entire car shakes even when u close the door gently.

On the positive side, yes, it saves fuel and its a perodua! So, im pretty sure the maintenance cost and others comes in less expensive. Resale value for a perodua is rather good, afer all, we are malaysians and we prefer perodua, toyota, and honda just to name a few. It is spacious on the rear seat, and it looks alot more larger than the axia although it is of the same width amd height of the latter. The boot space i doubt thou as it appear not to be so spacious to me, or maybe its just me. However, hard plastics are to be found EVERYWHERE and the bold lining across the passanger dashboard isnt any piano black finishing.

Anyway, to me, yes the car hits the right price spot. The only thing i would like to voice out is why the car is so underpowered!? I believe the similar engine used in indon variant avanza isnt that that bad.

Thats all for my review on the 1.3 advance variant smile.gif
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Thanks...

It will also be my wife's first car as she is taking up driving now. So from that perspective it seems ok, no?

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