no temperature gauge?
seriously?

probably higher because everyone from p2 to Honda charge more for sedan. and it need to be higher because
as iriz has proven demand is inelastic of price. iriz is cheaper and better spec but still outsold 3:1 with myvi. also p1 is almost bankrupt. also need more toys to fight of bezza.

p2 is not p1. no one is a pioneer of anything.

bezza is a sedan version of axia which is a rebadged Mira e:s. this platform are pretty old as it should be replaced in 1 or 2 more years.the idle stop, push start,TA,VSC are all coming straight from Mira es.

anyway ask to see the salesman book. there's they put the price list for maintaince for the next 5 years.

myvi icon is really outdated, the fc is the same as iriz

You Google Toyota Corolla axio also can see lot of similarities

Anyway the wheelbase and width of both car are different making the assumption it comes from 1 platform highly unlikely.

Premium X variant got no electronic stuff to worry about
It got no vsc though but neither is myvi

Not really
People don't usually change the car wheelbase
They just add,subtract the overhang

Jazz,city,hrv also cla,GLA,A250 all has the same wheelbase

And limousine perdana are only available for how many?
3 individuals. Is it even fits for commercial use?
Or a result of some guy need to feel that his dick is longer than everyone else?


Anyway you seem like the kind of guy who won't take no for an answer
So why not I ask a question instead

Given the choice of engine, look and safety features why you concluded it's a compacted ethios rather than a compacted corrola axio? Because logic dictate it take far fewer efforts to cheapen out the Corolla axio then it is to glorified the ethios

so Toyota renovated a longer wheelbase to make it shorter and comply with axia dimension to tell the story that this is really an axia sedan?

wonder if we can sue them for defrauding clients?

you do know platform mean the underpinnings of the car right? whereby proton 2 platform are meant for A&B,C&D right?

because comparing a car where money isn't a primary concern with a car that money is the only concern do make sense.

sure why not, let go by your theory then. Toyota compacted the ethios into axia dimensions and tell everyone it's based on the axia for ????????

I think you're methodology of thinking fits proton perfectly

yup. they priotize too much on bootspace
then make back seat a bit too straight
then make front seat higher than axia
and since the steering can't be adjusted
it becum a bit less comfortable for taller pipu than axia to drive.

the rear bumper and back light is a wee bit too flat while the back doors design is really old school. probably better if they invest in a black plastic piece like that in preve,vios and city. or edit the door itself like Mazda 2? the back Passager is already uncomfortable so might as well make them closterfobic as well

overall the car is ok. it's got JDM spec toys that we formally couldn't enjoy. and the price is really good if one consider that to own a foreign marquee one would pay at least 30k in taxes. if this car comes with a T badge as apposed to P badges it would be prices at 80k for the advance version.

on other note. I wonder if it stupid of me to booked one without even a test drive. the test car is too overused and overwhelming with smells. I imagine the car is very similar to the axia

the back seat is not really that horrible compared to other perodua car. I think even the front seat of axia/bezza still more comfortable (but small) than alza/myvi.

my cousin has an axia MT that this bezza are based on and I have the iriz MT.

I don't think you would be very happy.

iriz is tune for fun but proton reputation and conti parts means it is expensive and probably aren't long lasting.

but you're get a stiff chassis as its high tenstile steel that is seven time? stiffer

while axia steering is heavy while slow, Honda CR-Z have a steering that light at slow but provides almost no feedback, in Kia eps you have to push buttons to choose the heaviness of comfy or sports. the ZF source EPS in iriz is none of that.

the axia would not move by just releasing the clutch. infact the clutch doesn't communicate at all. it's either open or close and no in between.

what is chrome scuff plates?

kinda missed that
how much ehh?

nope. scratch the plastic itself

on my iriz I can see my mum and sis (any womenz) like to drag their heals and shoes and deep scratching the plastic. infact one other car has the scuff plate tercabut coz they keep kicking it.they also kinda like scratching my doors while opening the doors.

iriz is like a chepo but more reliable conti car?

it's ok, the FC is very akin to myvi, the car is really quite comfy, the seats is really great. excellent on B road the feedback and sound is rewarding but the same feedback and sound makes it not really fun on highway though. it's worked as a mundane car, the clutch is almost magical while hill hold make driving a manual not a nuisances.

proton is a proton. QC is not an issue anymore, no one get a lemon nowadays but everyone will get a headache with design imperfections.

looking at persona spyshot. it is rather apparent they never learn.

same here
already has a hatch so in need of a sedan.

I doubt their GDI engine would safe them
personally I think it's gen2 campro phase all over again

an engine built under a year by a European cheaply?
yeah that completely scream reliability

Acceleration is the most fuel consuming activities there is

So it's rather apparent that the engine is tune to discourage that to earn FC numbers. The myvi FC is about the same as iriz. So it's likely the "power" come at the cost of fuels. Probably mean parts will last longer due to less wear and tear.

Some cars put a sport button to change the ecu to make it powderful at the cost of fuels. But doubt perodua will do it as I don't think such button exist in daihatsu nor they are selling "performance"

it's not the angle
iriz seat is also quite straight up

the problem is bezza seat is thin, short and straight
the iriz seat has shape to take account the human body
thus the bezza lacks in back and buttom support
making it uncomfortable.

that's why all my perodua driving cousin all buy a Ozawa back pillow. it's not great but it helped.

anyway gonna get my car next week.

would the V plate follow with VA
or it just end like F?