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Aeon_Clock
post Feb 28 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 27 2022, 08:03 PM)
How's the MC5 towards the end? Performance degraded as expected or how?
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okay, now that I have changed tyre...I can provide full review of life expectations towards the end. First of all, I am what you call a very spirited driver - don't floor it at the traffic lights but throw it on the corners. So yeah, my tyres degrade quite a bit after 5.5 years / 60k km (including MCO), but I never realized how bad it was.

Grip is there all the time for normal driving (my tyre thread still just above the replacement indicator), but I can feel that the grip around corners is starting to go bad around the 5th year. I started taking more cornering exit abt 6 mths prior years to make the tyres last that little bit more but around the 5th year you can feel there is lack of performance. What I can really feel is the braking performance which is pretty bad at this wear.

There is a stretch of road around my house where I often use to go back home. It is a small bend but whatever speed you go at it, can feel the back end slide a little everytime you use it. Always thought that patch of road is just a little bad after so many years. I just tried that yesterday on the new tyres and in the rain but never felt that slide anymore! That means all this while there was a bit of an alignment issue on the worn MC5 and never realized it! Mind you, I rotate my tyres on time.

After changing to Hankook Ventus Prime 3, the difference is HUGE. I mean these are considered cheaper performance tyres. Cornering is so effortless now (I can go back to driving with 1 finger) and my confidence in braking is back to normal. The biggest shock actually is the noise. While doing pre-purchase reviews, a few shops mention Continentals are famous for being noisy. Never really realize it until after changing tyres, this cheaper Hankook is absolutely silent! In terms of dB...previous tyre can go around avg 75dB and now its 69 (reconfirm first) dB

Its been only a few days and I need to test more for better review on performance. But I think the point to take from this is whatever you choose, just change your tyres around the 4-5 year or 50k mark.

QUOTE(millenius @ Feb 28 2022, 08:12 AM)
Hi,

Could I get some recommendation for a Myvi 14 inch tyres ?
My usual drive would be 110 on highway, max 130 when long distance drive.
Never hit corners for more than 60, usually 50.

Currently eyeing CC6, but would like to hear some options.
Prefer noise reduction and comfort and good on wet days.
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I would suggest avoiding CC6...go for something else...even if its a cheap range tyre.

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Feb 28 2022, 02:34 PM
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post Feb 28 2022, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 28 2022, 02:19 PM)
okay, now that I have changed tyre...I can provide full review of life expectations towards the end. First of all, I am what you call a very spirited driver - don't floor it at the traffic lights but throw it on the corners. So yeah, my tyres degrade quite a bit after 5.5 years / 60k km (including MCO), but I never realized how bad it was.

Grip is there all the time for normal driving (my tyre thread still just above the replacement indicator), but I can feel that the grip around corners is starting to go bad around the 5th year. I started taking more cornering exit abt 6 mths prior years to make the tyres last that little bit more but around the 5th year you can feel there is lack of performance. What I can really feel is the braking performance which is pretty bad at this wear.

There is a stretch of road around my house where I often use to go back home. It is a small bend but whatever speed you go at it, can feel the back end slide a little everytime you use it. Always thought that patch of road is just a little bad after so many years. I just tried that yesterday on the new tyres and in the rain but never felt that slide anymore! That means all this while there was a bit of an alignment issue on the worn MC5 and never realized it! Mind you, I rotate my tyres on time.

After changing to Hankook Ventus Prime 3, the difference is HUGE. I mean these are considered cheaper performance tyres. Cornering is so effortless now (I can go back to driving with 1 finger) and my confidence in braking is back to normal. The biggest shock actually is the noise. While doing pre-purchase reviews, a few shops mention Continentals are famous for being noisy. Never really realize it until after changing tyres, this cheaper Hankook is absolutely silent! In terms of dB...previous tyre can go around avg 75dB and now its 69 (reconfirm first) dB

Its been only a few days and I need to test more for better review on performance. But I think the point to take from this is whatever you choose, just change your tyres around the 4-5 year or 50k mark.
I would suggest avoiding CC6...go for something else...even if its a cheap range tyre.
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that's a lot of mileage for MC5
that small bend near your house, do you mean, the MC5 gave you slide since beginning until end? would u use MC5 again?
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post Feb 28 2022, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 28 2022, 02:38 PM)
that's a lot of mileage for MC5
that small bend near your house, do you mean, the MC5 gave you slide since beginning until end? would u use MC5 again?
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really? I'd share photos of my tyres but the file format (Iphone) isn't supported sad.gif
about the slide, I think no...its probably mid-life where the slide started.
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post Feb 28 2022, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 28 2022, 02:41 PM)
really? I'd share photos of my tyres but the file format (Iphone) isn't supported sad.gif
about the slide, I think no...its probably mid-life where the slide started.
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I presume your iphone using HEIC. convert them to JPEG first. Also change the setting in your camera to use JPEG. HEIC is not really worth the hassle when only one phone is using that format
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post Feb 28 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 28 2022, 02:41 PM)
really? I'd share photos of my tyres but the file format (Iphone) isn't supported sad.gif
about the slide, I think no...its probably mid-life where the slide started.
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Thanks a lot for sharing.

I heard that MC5 degrade after mid life, becoz last time fancy this tire. Then later I heard is general character with other C tires.

Last time I use BAX2, oddly it doesn't degrade as bad as I imagined. However, mileage is quite low around 28k need to change liao.
For me, if can get 30k is consider good. Primacy3st beat that mark and almost near 40k. So I quite buy M brand.
I pay more attention to wet grip performances, so if see C vs M shootout, C wins dry, M wins wet.

Other brands want try are those Korean, especially the H brand Ventus series which continues getting good reviews.
I think you made good choice with the Ventus.
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post Mar 1 2022, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 25 2022, 03:56 PM)
well, XM2+ to me feels not worth the money...better off going for Continental UC6 coz it should be around the same price? Primacy is worth that little bit extra because it has much better performance even when worn. Having just changed my tyres (to a much cheaper range - Hankook) from 5.5 years old Continental MC5, I can say that new rubber does affect braking performance. I've always thought these only affect racing cars but you can feel the significant difference even on cheap tyre.

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but there is no harm in using cheaper tyre...since you're going for comfort. For example, Toyo CR1 is almost half the price of Michelin's Primacy so it does make some sense in using Toyo for half the time and changing tyre a little sooner than usual for whatever reason (since its so cheap). My cousin did just that.
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XM2 is entry level with expensive badge
I think you can get better VFM (value 4 moneh) with Yoko/Toyo/Hankook than XM2 for a bit lesser
But see tread pattern.. make sure it still conform to the 3 or 4 straight deep longkang boring pattern.. we are wet weather place
Hence pretty starts and moons with not much straight deep longkang like CC6.. tend to float on water

QUOTE(DM52 @ Feb 25 2022, 07:45 PM)
those bantai full throttle at traffic light and cruise 200kmh can kill tyre thread very fast..imagine drive conti cruise at 220kmh instead of national speed limit 110kmh. double speed, lifespan shorten by double. as easy as that.
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Plus heavy car.. and use Federal Hwy a lot sure kill tyre fast, that Federal material is super rough and porous.
Or those who like to make tyre sing in corners when the green light is blinking devil.gif


QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 28 2022, 02:19 PM)
okay, now that I have changed tyre...I can provide full review of life expectations towards the end. First of all, I am what you call a very spirited driver - don't floor it at the traffic lights but throw it on the corners. So yeah, my tyres degrade quite a bit after 5.5 years / 60k km (including MCO), but I never realized how bad it was.

Grip is there all the time for normal driving (my tyre thread still just above the replacement indicator), but I can feel that the grip around corners is starting to go bad around the 5th year. I started taking more cornering exit abt 6 mths prior years to make the tyres last that little bit more but around the 5th year you can feel there is lack of performance. What I can really feel is the braking performance which is pretty bad at this wear.

There is a stretch of road around my house where I often use to go back home. It is a small bend but whatever speed you go at it, can feel the back end slide a little everytime you use it. Always thought that patch of road is just a little bad after so many years. I just tried that yesterday on the new tyres and in the rain but never felt that slide anymore! That means all this while there was a bit of an alignment issue on the worn MC5 and never realized it! Mind you, I rotate my tyres on time.

After changing to Hankook Ventus Prime 3, the difference is HUGE. I mean these are considered cheaper performance tyres. Cornering is so effortless now (I can go back to driving with 1 finger) and my confidence in braking is back to normal. The biggest shock actually is the noise. While doing pre-purchase reviews, a few shops mention Continentals are famous for being noisy. Never really realize it until after changing tyres, this cheaper Hankook is absolutely silent! In terms of dB...previous tyre can go around avg 75dB and now its 69 (reconfirm first) dB

Its been only a few days and I need to test more for better review on performance. But I think the point to take from this is whatever you choose, just change your tyres around the 4-5 year or 50k mark.
I would suggest avoiding CC6...go for something else...even if its a cheap range tyre.
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New tyres fresh rubber. Old tyre already hardened and worse if never move much during MCO.. it didn't release the SK-II anti aging stuff that is activated when rolling.

CC6 not recommended..the priority became cheap and silent at great sacrifice to WET grip
I think anything else from other brands would be better. Dunlop/Goodyear/Yoko
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post Mar 1 2022, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 28 2022, 02:43 PM)
I presume your iphone using HEIC. convert them to JPEG first. Also change the setting in your camera to use JPEG. HEIC is not really worth the hassle when only one phone is using that format
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oh, thanks...never knew we could do that!

QUOTE(alexei @ Feb 28 2022, 03:09 PM)
Thanks a lot for sharing.

I heard that MC5 degrade after mid life, becoz last time fancy this tire. Then later I heard is general character with other C tires.

Last time I use BAX2, oddly it doesn't degrade as bad as I imagined. However, mileage is quite low around 28k need to change liao.
For me, if can get 30k is consider good. Primacy3st beat that mark and almost near 40k. So I quite buy M brand.
I pay more attention to wet grip performances, so if see C vs M shootout, C wins dry, M wins wet.

Other brands want try are those Korean, especially the H brand Ventus series which continues getting good reviews.
I think you made good choice with the Ventus.
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BAX 2 is GTRadial? Never tried this brand before so can't say much about it. Actually I also heard some that H's VP3 will also degrade mid-life. But since the tyre is so much cheaper I don't mind that. It only means I can change out earlier and enjoy new rubber more often.

If you have wet grip performance for a priority, the only brand to go for is Bridgestone. Nothing else comes close. And I'm not joking. I've used Silverstone, Falcon, Bridgestone, Achillies, Continental and now Hankook. Obviously the review for Hankook will be biased since its still so new but Bridgestone ranks wayyy above any of these other brands in terms of dry, wet grip and lifespan. Its just unfortunate I couldn't find Turanza T005 for my car size otherwise I'd go for that.

I went to change brand pads recently and surprisingly the workshop says I got a lot of brake pads left even after 60k mileage, so that goes to show how I look after the car despite driving like a nutcase sometimes. I mean he was literally shocked upon seeing the pads biggrin.gif
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post Mar 1 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Mar 1 2022, 01:44 PM)
oh, thanks...never knew we could do that!
BAX 2 is GTRadial? Never tried this brand before so can't say much about it. Actually I also heard some that H's VP3 will also degrade mid-life. But since the tyre is so much cheaper I don't mind that. It only means I can change out earlier and enjoy new rubber more often.

If you have wet grip performance for a priority, the only brand to go for is Bridgestone. Nothing else comes close. And I'm not joking. I've used Silverstone, Falcon, Bridgestone, Achillies, Continental and now Hankook. Obviously the review for Hankook will be biased since its still so new but Bridgestone ranks wayyy above any of these other brands in terms of dry, wet grip and lifespan. Its just unfortunate I couldn't find Turanza T005 for my car size otherwise I'd go for that.

I went to change brand pads recently and surprisingly the workshop says I got a lot of brake pads left even after 60k mileage, so that goes to show how I look after the car despite driving like a nutcase sometimes. I mean he was literally shocked upon seeing the pads  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, Turanza T004 and now T005, you are right.

I saw this a while back, got good impression on CPC6 and T005.
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-La...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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post Mar 1 2022, 05:13 PM

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Hi, want to find a brand new tyre for my civic 215/55R16

Type available for 215/55R16
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin Primacy 5
Bridgestone Turanza T005A
Dunlop Maxx050+
Dunlop DZ102
Continental UC6 (Cheapest compared to above)

Sifu, any idea which is the best of bucks?

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post Mar 1 2022, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 1 2022, 02:04 PM)
Yeah, Turanza T004 and now T005, you are right.

I saw this a while back, got good impression on CPC6 and T005.
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-La...r-Tyre-Test.htm
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Interesting...H's VP3 is very much up there along with the popular brands. I heard about the performance a little only when looking around, didn't know the details that much. Anyway these are pics of my old MC5.
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Hi everyone. I'm an owner of a modded Satria Neo. Planning to change the tyres (205/45/16). Would like to get your recommendations or comments on these few choices:

1) Continental MC6
2) Goodyear F1 Sport
3) Michelin PS3
4) Bridgestone RE004


Hope to hear from some of you. Thank you.
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QUOTE(BlackPen @ Mar 1 2022, 05:13 PM)
Hi, want to find a brand new tyre for my civic 215/55R16

Type available for 215/55R16
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin Primacy 5
Bridgestone Turanza T005A
Dunlop Maxx050+
Dunlop DZ102
Continental UC6 (Cheapest compared to above)

Sifu, any idea which is the best of bucks?
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You should consider Maxxis Victra I-Pro as well if you are considering UC6.

Albeit, they are available in 225/55R16 instead. Pricing should be below RM300 per piece.
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QUOTE(seanleeyoung @ Mar 2 2022, 12:29 AM)
Hi everyone. I'm an owner of a modded Satria Neo. Planning to change the tyres (205/45/16). Would like to get your recommendations or comments on these few choices:

1) Continental MC6
2) Goodyear F1 Sport
3) Michelin PS3
4) Bridgestone RE004


Hope to hear from some of you. Thank you.
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PS3 would still be my preferred choice if the price is not much different than the rest.
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post Mar 2 2022, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 2 2022, 06:18 AM)
PS3 would still be my preferred choice if the price is not much different than the rest.
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Can you still buy PS3 now?
I'm quite interested in Goodyear F1 Sport performance and lifespan actually...the reviews are pretty great. But Goodyear has been the one with bad reviews for me in the past...
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Mar 2 2022, 07:44 AM)
Can you still buy PS3 now?
I'm quite interested in Goodyear F1 Sport performance and lifespan actually...the reviews are pretty great. But Goodyear has been the one with bad reviews for me in the past...
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Yes, it is still available for certain sizes.

Yes, been hearing good reviews about this tyre as well. But never got the chance to try yet.
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 2 2022, 06:14 AM)
You should consider Maxxis Victra I-Pro as well if you are considering UC6.

Albeit, they are available in 225/55R16 instead. Pricing should be below RM300 per piece.
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isn't ok to get 225 instead of 215? sorry I'm noob in tyre yawn.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(seanleeyoung @ Mar 2 2022, 12:29 AM)
Hi everyone. I'm an owner of a modded Satria Neo. Planning to change the tyres (205/45/16). Would like to get your recommendations or comments on these few choices:

1) Continental MC6
2) Goodyear F1 Sport
3) Michelin PS3
4) Bridgestone RE004


Hope to hear from some of you. Thank you.
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Price should decide between PS3 or F1 Assy2.
Reviews for that size puts F1 above PS3.

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 2 2022, 06:18 AM)
PS3 would still be my preferred choice if the price is not much different than the rest.
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I believe the price for PS3 is pretty steep compared to the others.

QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 2 2022, 11:55 AM)
Price should decide between PS3 or F1 Assy2.
Reviews for that size puts F1 above PS3.
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Seems like the Goodyear F1 has some positive feedbacks. Gonna be a major upgrade to my current ones which are Toyo T1R :/
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QUOTE(seanleeyoung @ Mar 2 2022, 01:28 PM)
Seems like the Goodyear F1 has some positive feedbacks. Gonna be a major upgrade to my current ones which are Toyo T1R :/
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Toyo mana buat? Got two types, J vs M. J is better.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Mar 2 2022, 01:54 PM)
Toyo mana buat? Got two types, J vs M. J is better.
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Ahh I can't remember, it's been couple of years now. My assumption says made from M. Huge problem that I faced with the tyres was the soft side wall.

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