looking for advice for new tyres for Honda Civic X. My driving style is economical on the highway but I do corner VERY hard unlike most people. Current tyre is Continental MC5...very happy with this because its comfortable over uneven road/bumps and dry grip is sufficient but wet grip leaves much to be desired (especially in carparks).

Looking at a few options and all feedbacks are appreciated.
- Another Continental MC5 (safest bet...maybe)
- Michelin XM2+ (somewhat recommended? But I heard it cracks badly after a few years)
- Yokohama BlueEarth ES32 (I think Yokohama is a good brand? Will this crack as badly too?)
- Bridgestone Ecopia EP300 (recommended by workshop)

PS4 is not an option for me because it pretty much dies of in 2-3 years? I'm not interested in wasting money in something that lasts so short

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Jan 16 2022, 09:26 PM

you need to let them know what car or size...MPV, SUV, Sedan...airplane?

Yeah, not only no budget, this tyre doesn't last...so its not one of my preference. I made MC5 last 60k with hard cornering...imagine that.
But I stick it within the limit on the highways.
I am looking for MC6 and Potenza RE004 actually...but these models are quite difficult to find somehow.
Recently I visited a workshop and found Toyo Proxes CR1 and Michelin Primacy 4. I think Primacy 4 is quite a good option? Toyo apparently is on par and cheaper...

my tyre size is 215/55/16. Tried looking for MC6 but can't find it anywhere.

Actually regarding those 3 tyres...you're very off on the price there. RE004 tyre is the most expensive of all for some reason...100 bucks a pop more than Primacy 4. And the CR1 is almost 100 bucks a pop less than Primacy 4. at least for my tyre size.

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Jan 21 2022, 09:37 PM

RE004 - around RM550
Primacy 4 - around 450
CR1 - around 300

Oh thanks. But this tyre is year 2020...might be very old stock. I'll check around more but so far two shops quoted me 550 & 545 each...

If you have a choice of Primacy 4 and Potenza RE004....which would be your choice?

wait, Michelin would be longer lasting? I've had Bridgestone many years ago and it was the longest lasting of all the tyres I've tried. Performance a no brainer there

you have quite a few options to choose from with your size. Mine's 215/55/R16 and suddenly a lot of options unavailable...but for comfort range would be:-
- Michelin Primacy 4 (probably best but most expensive option)
- Bridgestone Turanza T005
- Continental Ultra Contact 6
- Toyo CR1 (cheapest in the range)

well, XM2+ to me feels not worth the money...better off going for Continental UC6 coz it should be around the same price? Primacy is worth that little bit extra because it has much better performance even when worn. Having just changed my tyres (to a much cheaper range - Hankook) from 5.5 years old Continental MC5, I can say that new rubber does affect braking performance. I've always thought these only affect racing cars but you can feel the significant difference even on cheap tyre.



but there is no harm in using cheaper tyre...since you're going for comfort. For example, Toyo CR1 is almost half the price of Michelin's Primacy so it does make some sense in using Toyo for half the time and changing tyre a little sooner than usual for whatever reason (since its so cheap). My cousin did just that.

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Feb 25 2022, 04:00 PM

okay, now that I have changed tyre...I can provide full review of life expectations towards the end. First of all, I am what you call a very spirited driver - don't floor it at the traffic lights but throw it on the corners. So yeah, my tyres degrade quite a bit after 5.5 years / 60k km (including MCO), but I never realized how bad it was.

Grip is there all the time for normal driving (my tyre thread still just above the replacement indicator), but I can feel that the grip around corners is starting to go bad around the 5th year. I started taking more cornering exit abt 6 mths prior years to make the tyres last that little bit more but around the 5th year you can feel there is lack of performance. What I can really feel is the braking performance which is pretty bad at this wear.

There is a stretch of road around my house where I often use to go back home. It is a small bend but whatever speed you go at it, can feel the back end slide a little everytime you use it. Always thought that patch of road is just a little bad after so many years. I just tried that yesterday on the new tyres and in the rain but never felt that slide anymore! That means all this while there was a bit of an alignment issue on the worn MC5 and never realized it! Mind you, I rotate my tyres on time.

After changing to Hankook Ventus Prime 3, the difference is HUGE. I mean these are considered cheaper performance tyres. Cornering is so effortless now (I can go back to driving with 1 finger) and my confidence in braking is back to normal. The biggest shock actually is the noise. While doing pre-purchase reviews, a few shops mention Continentals are famous for being noisy. Never really realize it until after changing tyres, this cheaper Hankook is absolutely silent! In terms of dB...previous tyre can go around avg 75dB and now its 69 (reconfirm first) dB

Its been only a few days and I need to test more for better review on performance. But I think the point to take from this is whatever you choose, just change your tyres around the 4-5 year or 50k mark.

I would suggest avoiding CC6...go for something else...even if its a cheap range tyre.

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Feb 28 2022, 02:34 PM

really? I'd share photos of my tyres but the file format (Iphone) isn't supported
about the slide, I think no...its probably mid-life where the slide started.

oh, thanks...never knew we could do that!

BAX 2 is GTRadial? Never tried this brand before so can't say much about it. Actually I also heard some that H's VP3 will also degrade mid-life. But since the tyre is so much cheaper I don't mind that. It only means I can change out earlier and enjoy new rubber more often.

If you have wet grip performance for a priority, the only brand to go for is Bridgestone. Nothing else comes close. And I'm not joking. I've used Silverstone, Falcon, Bridgestone, Achillies, Continental and now Hankook. Obviously the review for Hankook will be biased since its still so new but Bridgestone ranks wayyy above any of these other brands in terms of dry, wet grip and lifespan. Its just unfortunate I couldn't find Turanza T005 for my car size otherwise I'd go for that.

I went to change brand pads recently and surprisingly the workshop says I got a lot of brake pads left even after 60k mileage, so that goes to show how I look after the car despite driving like a nutcase sometimes. I mean he was literally shocked upon seeing the pads

Interesting...H's VP3 is very much up there along with the popular brands. I heard about the performance a little only when looking around, didn't know the details that much. Anyway these are pics of my old MC5.

Can you still buy PS3 now?
I'm quite interested in Goodyear F1 Sport performance and lifespan actually...the reviews are pretty great. But Goodyear has been the one with bad reviews for me in the past...