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Aeon_Clock
post Jan 20 2022, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Jan 19 2022, 10:54 AM)
Hi all,
Would like to get opinion on the below tires based on my budget.. which one should I go for?

1. GY Assurance
2. GY excellence
3. GY eagle f1
3. Kumho ecsta
4. Hankook ventus prime3
5. Hankook ventus v2
6. Toyo proxes cr1
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you need to let them know what car or size...MPV, SUV, Sedan...airplane?
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post Jan 20 2022, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(I.hunter @ Jan 13 2022, 04:09 PM)
Any opinion on xm2+ vs primacy 4st vs pilot sport 3 for honda city (15').

Driving style (on myvi 1st gen 14'):
- 130-170 on North south (100-120km/h on rain, don't remember)
- 100-140km/h on major roads/city highways when possible
- 60-80km/h on non major roads
- usually around 50-60km/h cornering. anything above 60 usually tyre start squeaking
- slightly lower speed 10-20km/h on wet condition.
- sometimes do hit potholes at speed (so tyre better not too fragile)
- faster than avg person on bumps.
- old tyres are like silverstones or other budget tyres. even drove with 4 different brand and 'flower' 3-6yo (well just realized)

preference:
safety/durability (in terms of fragility) > comfort/noise > durability (mileage).

Price is hard to judge. If xm2+ is sufficient of course best option since almost x2 mileage compare to primacy and ps.
Safe as in good enough wet grip but not too fragile kena non serious pothole then break. so far (10y+) driving no break tyre due to pothole (touchwood). Bumpy like tyre hardened is no fun. Noise? even budget tyre also seldom realized much noise (maybe too much road noise till not realized). best to last atleast 40kkm (all three of tyre above should pass this already).
I heard michelin tyre easy break/fragile is it true? Wanna give a try on these branded stuff as past experience only on (goodyear/silverstone/dunlop/toyo) budget tyres.
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You drive rather fast so performance is your priority, not durability, then get PS3, end of story.

QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 16 2022, 09:24 PM)
looking for advice for new tyres for Honda Civic X. My driving style is economical on the highway but I do corner VERY hard unlike most people. Current tyre is Continental MC5...very happy with this because its comfortable over uneven road/bumps and dry grip is sufficient but wet grip leaves much to be desired (especially in carparks).

Looking at a few options and all feedbacks are appreciated.
- Another Continental MC5 (safest bet...maybe)
- Michelin XM2+ (somewhat recommended? But I heard it cracks badly after a few years)
- Yokohama BlueEarth ES32 (I think Yokohama is a good brand? Will this crack as badly too?)
- Bridgestone Ecopia EP300 (recommended by workshop)

PS4 is not an option for me because it pretty much dies of in 2-3 years? I'm not interested in wasting money in something that lasts so short  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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Cornering hard but no budget for PS4? Then none of your choices above! Get at least Maxxis I-Pro for the cheapest, Conti MC6, Goodyear F1 Sport, Potenza Re004, Hankook S1 Evo 3, or Falken FK510. Best choice should be S1 Evo 3.

QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Jan 19 2022, 10:54 AM)
Hi all,
Would like to get opinion on the below tires based on my budget.. which one should I go for?

1. GY Assurance
2. GY excellence
3. GY eagle f1
3. Kumho ecsta
4. Hankook ventus prime3
5. Hankook ventus v2
6. Toyo proxes cr1
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Very easy, GY F1! Or check out the models I just mentioned above if any has your size.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jan 20 2022, 12:59 AM
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post Jan 20 2022, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 20 2022, 12:56 AM)
Cornering hard but no budget for PS4? Then none of your choices above! Get at least Maxxis I-Pro for the cheapest, Conti MC6, Goodyear F1 Sport, Potenza Re004, Hankook S1 Evo 3, or Falken FK510. Best choice should be S1 Evo 3.
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Yeah, not only no budget, this tyre doesn't last...so its not one of my preference. I made MC5 last 60k with hard cornering...imagine that.
But I stick it within the limit on the highways.
I am looking for MC6 and Potenza RE004 actually...but these models are quite difficult to find somehow.
Recently I visited a workshop and found Toyo Proxes CR1 and Michelin Primacy 4. I think Primacy 4 is quite a good option? Toyo apparently is on par and cheaper...
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post Jan 20 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 20 2022, 10:33 AM)
Yeah, not only no budget, this tyre doesn't last...so its not one of my preference. I made MC5 last 60k with hard cornering...imagine that.
But I stick it within the limit on the highways.
I am looking for MC6 and Potenza RE004 actually...but these models are quite difficult to find somehow.
Recently I visited a workshop and found Toyo Proxes CR1 and Michelin Primacy 4. I think Primacy 4 is quite a good option? Toyo apparently is on par and cheaper...
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What size do you actually need? Primacy 4 and CR1 are mid category touring tires like MC5 which are 1 category lower than those UHP tires that I mentioned. If you are short on budget, the Maxxis I-Pro is actually very cheap, even cheaper than that Toyo CR1. RE004 price range is also pretty cheap now, probably similar to Primacy 4 or CR1.
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post Jan 20 2022, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(I.hunter @ Jan 13 2022, 04:09 PM)
Any opinion on xm2+ vs primacy 4st vs pilot sport 3 for honda city (15').

Driving style (on myvi 1st gen 14'):
- 130-170 on North south (100-120km/h on rain, don't remember)
- 100-140km/h on major roads/city highways when possible
- 60-80km/h on non major roads
- usually around 50-60km/h cornering. anything above 60 usually tyre start squeaking
- slightly lower speed 10-20km/h on wet condition.
- sometimes do hit potholes at speed (so tyre better not too fragile)
- faster than avg person on bumps.
- old tyres are like silverstones or other budget tyres. even drove with 4 different brand and 'flower' 3-6yo (well just realized)

preference:
safety/durability (in terms of fragility) > comfort/noise > durability (mileage).

Price is hard to judge. If xm2+ is sufficient of course best option since almost x2 mileage compare to primacy and ps.
Safe as in good enough wet grip but not too fragile kena non serious pothole then break. so far (10y+) driving no break tyre due to pothole (touchwood). Bumpy like tyre hardened is no fun. Noise? even budget tyre also seldom realized much noise (maybe too much road noise till not realized). best to last atleast 40kkm (all three of tyre above should pass this already).
I heard michelin tyre easy break/fragile is it true? Wanna give a try on these branded stuff as past experience only on (goodyear/silverstone/dunlop/toyo) budget tyres.
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If 15in just get PS3. 3rd set for me and very happy with it. Wet performance no problem, confident on hwy.

Its tough enough to survive as long as u dont underinflate the tyre.
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post Jan 21 2022, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 20 2022, 05:25 PM)
What size do you actually need? Primacy 4 and CR1 are mid category touring tires like MC5 which are 1 category lower than those UHP tires that I mentioned. If you are short on budget, the Maxxis I-Pro is actually very cheap, even cheaper than that Toyo CR1. RE004 price range is also pretty cheap now, probably similar to Primacy 4 or CR1.
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my tyre size is 215/55/16. Tried looking for MC6 but can't find it anywhere.

Actually regarding those 3 tyres...you're very off on the price there. RE004 tyre is the most expensive of all for some reason...100 bucks a pop more than Primacy 4. And the CR1 is almost 100 bucks a pop less than Primacy 4. doh.gif at least for my tyre size.

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post Jan 21 2022, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 21 2022, 09:34 PM)
my tyre size is 215/55/16. Tried looking for MC6 but can't find it anywhere.

Actually regarding those 3 tyres...you're very off on the price there. RE004 tyre is the most expensive of all for some reason...100 bucks a pop more than Primacy 4. And the CR1 is almost 100 bucks a pop less than Primacy 4. doh.gif at least for my tyre size.
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What are the prices you got for re004? A quick check in mudah for your size shows it's slightly cheaper than Primacy 4. I still highly recommend getting Re004 instead of Primacy 4 or CR1.
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post Jan 22 2022, 11:15 AM

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RE004 - around RM550
Primacy 4 - around 450
CR1 - around 300
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post Jan 22 2022, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 22 2022, 11:15 AM)
RE004 - around RM550
Primacy 4 - around 450
CR1 - around 300
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Your re004 price is too high, should be under rm400, see below

https://www.mudah.my/view?ad_id=91543575&sh...&share_to=other
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post Jan 22 2022, 10:14 PM

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Anyplace to recommend to buy tires around Bukit Jalil area. Tq
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post Jan 23 2022, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 22 2022, 04:24 PM)
Your re004 price is too high, should be under rm400, see below

https://www.mudah.my/view?ad_id=91543575&sh...&share_to=other
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Oh thanks. But this tyre is year 2020...might be very old stock. I'll check around more but so far two shops quoted me 550 & 545 each...

If you have a choice of Primacy 4 and Potenza RE004....which would be your choice?
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post Jan 23 2022, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 23 2022, 12:53 AM)
Oh thanks. But this tyre is year 2020...might be very old stock. I'll check around more but so far two shops quoted me 550 & 545 each...

If you have a choice of Primacy 4 and Potenza RE004....which would be your choice?
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2020 is still perfectly fine, even 2019! Too many people misunderstood that buying tires must be the newest one but actually not correct. FYI I bought a 2019 tires back in 2021 and only this new year installed them, still works perfectly as expected just as any newer year tires, yet I got a 15-20% discount on them! We just gotta be smart customers.

For me no brainer I go for RE004 cuz performance and grip are my first priority above comfort and longevity.
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post Jan 23 2022, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 23 2022, 08:43 AM)
2020 is still perfectly fine, even 2019! Too many people misunderstood that buying tires must be the newest one but actually not correct. FYI I bought a 2019 tires back in 2021 and only this new year installed them, still works perfectly as expected just as any newer year tires, yet I got a 15-20% discount on them! We just gotta be smart customers.

For me no brainer I go for RE004 cuz performance and grip are my first priority above comfort and longevity.
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wait, Michelin would be longer lasting? I've had Bridgestone many years ago and it was the longest lasting of all the tyres I've tried. Performance a no brainer there biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 23 2022, 11:17 AM)
wait, Michelin would be longer lasting? I've had Bridgestone many years ago and it was the longest lasting of all the tyres I've tried. Performance a no brainer there  biggrin.gif
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Not all BS are the same and not all Michelin are the same either! Primacy 4 has Tread Wear rating of 340 while RE004 only 220 so huge difference there. Primacy model is designed as mid range touring tire that focus more on comfort and durability while Potenza focus more on performance.
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post Jan 24 2022, 01:48 PM

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I am currently having these wheel set up on two of my car

Car 1
185/55 R16 with Mich XM2+

Car 2
185/60 R14 with Mich XM2+

I know this two size is odd side but is there any performance tires like PS3/4 or Primacy that came with the above size?

Would prefer to keep it stock size/wheel type.

I am more of the performance/drive hard in the corner type driver.

Too bad local (proton/peredua) car dont allow you to customize (eg car came with 16inch wheel but you can custom order to come with 15inch wheel that was standard on another variant)

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post Jan 25 2022, 11:59 PM

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anyone here using 245/45/R19 for suv.
any recommendation beside Michelin PS4 or Primacy 4 (too expensive rm9xx each)
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post Jan 26 2022, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(evanttc @ Jan 25 2022, 11:59 PM)
anyone here using 245/45/R19 for suv.
any recommendation beside Michelin PS4 or Primacy 4 (too expensive rm9xx each)
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Pirelli Dragon for under $700 a pc
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QUOTE(evanttc @ Jan 25 2022, 11:59 PM)
anyone here using 245/45/R19 for suv.
any recommendation beside Michelin PS4 or Primacy 4 (too expensive rm9xx each)
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Try search Falken Azenis FK510 SUV
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post Feb 9 2022, 08:50 AM

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My wheels current size is 20 inches jj 8.0 and et 50, it is the stock wheels for BMW X2. However, the tyre size is 225/40/R20 and it is a pain in the butt to find tyres in this size.
What other tyre size I can use?

Edit: Found a tyre calculator...so it seems best fit 225/40 235/40 245/40

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post Feb 13 2022, 05:08 PM

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The below are the tyres 225/45r17 I used all these years, last for 20-22k KM only…

1) Michelin PS3
2) Bridgestone RE003
3) Hankook v12
4) Dunlop maxx sport 050+

Please advise which brand/model can go further maybe 30k+ KM….

Please help.

This post has been edited by k9182: Feb 13 2022, 05:09 PM

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