again... why compare these 2... everyone has asked you the same thing over and over again... why cars from completely different segments....

why not just compare the iris vs a maybach or... mayeb even a chiron... or why not a honda cup? cause they are completely DIFERENT!

hey i have just reedited it

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jul 12 2016, 04:49 PM

actually if you ask me.

In P1, the price will be lagging around 10k. thus go for the high segment will actually do.

Iris 1.6 premium how much again?

SS 1.6 turbo and lotus handling.

if you want proton iriz premium, the manual transmission will cost around RM59,880.00 / Metallic
RM59,430.00 / Solid.If you do not mind with audible noise of cvt,it will cost around RM62,480.00 / Metallic
RM62,030.00 / Solid.

actually do you want space? if not, iris I think is ok.

no i do not want space thanks

Then go for iris. Lol

Even I also don't know what car shall I go in my list of choice.

So, take it as an opinion yea.

Ok.

1. Brand : Kia Sportage
2. Budget : <90k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : Not quite sure if it's worth it to pay 800-900 monthly for used Sportage, or should i better get a new one, or different make. I like SUV.

I dont care much about handling, performance etc and my knowledge about cars is limited. But being loyal to myvi for the past 10 years, i think i deserve for an upgrade.

But in long run, I still hesitate about spare parts, maintenance cost, tires, etc. I'd probably use this car till I die.

I believe you do this decision in a hurry because Kia sport tage isn't a brand...

SUV handling important.... XV new fit your budget tho.

aiyah missed the russ swift demo/display models by 1-2 months... that was a reallly good deal.....

I was eyeing for this car (Sportage) for some time mainly because of the interior/exterior design, but dont want to blindly buy without any knowledge and opinion from others.

Would you recommend Subaru XV over Kia Sportage? Is it because its better in term of handling, space, performance , etc?

Regardless, I thank you for the recommendation.

Anyone could quickly mention a under-rated car that is price unfairly below market?

I'd like to know too.. tag me once you got the answer

understated cars ehh?? I think there are a few.... but these are price unfairly below market in its segment

right now? if its in great cond, this is kinda worth it in my eyes and and two or 3 others that are old, more exp to mantain, 100% impractical but me likes

hmmm.... see the kind of car i like?

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jul 13 2016, 10:04 AM

if i'm your good friend then you ask me my opinion about two sisters coz you considering marrying one of them.

A - fat landwhale with personality disorder but is a good with children
B - skinny semi-sexy gold digger but is a good cook

what am i supposed to say?

Choose A at least if you convince her to slim down you're left with a sexy psychopath who's good with kids?
Choose B if you manage to make her fall in love with you, technically you should be ok

however, since they cut corners on many things i'm actually concerned with the chassis and safety aspects, since those are things you cannot visually see or test unless during an accident

Mazda2 is B-segment so of course space wise it isn't going to be as good as C-segment cars. I'm not going to talk more on this because with your budget you should try to maximize it to get a C-segment.

Attrage is an A-segment. I'm not going to talk more on this because with your budget you should try to maximize it to get a C-segment.

Fluence is a C-segment car, so that alone it already wins the Mazda2. 5influence is a good package. But first things first where do you live, and are you in a 5km radius of a Renault SC/3S? From my previous experience those pickup services doesn't cover everywhere (unless they've upgraded and use Uber or Taxi service as a proxy) when I was staying in Shah Alam and the C&C (Mercedes) didn't have a 3s at Shah Alam yet the pickup service was spotty sometimes got sometimes don't have until you complain. Looking at the technical information of this car it looks to be a reskin of the Nissan Sylphy, similar as how the new Proton Perdana is a reskin of the 8gen Honda Accord. I think parts and maintenance cost isn't an issue since after 5 years you can opt out and service at workshops outside and use cheaper Nissan Sylphy parts or common OEM parts. It should be an okay purchase just think of it as a more nicer looking Sylphy. Fluence is better than Sylphy on a few points because it has ISOFIX seats, cruise control, european design and slightly better quality interior. But still missing from it would be ESC (electronic stability control) as in the Sylphy.

Lancer/Civic/Altis/Mazda3 are all above 100k, the closes one to your budget would be the new Civic at around 115k and the stock clearance price of the previous Civic, I've been told by SA's it is about 90k for the base 1.8 model. However, if you're keen on getting this deal go around a few showrooms and ask around because usually Honda is very smart in silently clearing stock at full price before launching a new model. If you're able to bag a 1800cc Civic for 90k from a non performing dealer then it is probably the best car you can buy.

VW Jetta stock clearance price for 2015 cars are in the 70-90k range. Specs, power, fc, space, it has everything and even better than the Civic. However, just take note the 1.4TSI engine and 7speed DSG are potential time bombs.

2010 Toyota Mark X 2.4 Zio - since your budget goes to 100k range let me show you a few recon/unreg cars to consider. Unfortunately a sedan version of the Mark X isn't available at the moment for your price range but the Zio (MPV/stationwagon version) is available. So basically it is a wagon version of the sedan, and it is D-segment. Upgrading to this from your Vios would be a huge upgrade because D-segment brings in a few refinements not found in C-segments like, bigger interior space, better materials for interior, more gadgets on your steering wheel, push start, etc. And being JDM you can expect it to have more than 2 airbags, full array of system systems like ESC, ABS, EBD, BA, etc. Don't worry too much on the maintenance side (I know the sedan version uses a 2.5 which is the same as the Lexus IS250) this one uses a 2.4 which is the same as the Camry and Estima. I know there are some "younger" 2011-2013 Toyota Wish in this price range too but imho their interior is kinda like other C-segments. If you're wondering what is the competitor to the Zio then it is the Honda Odyssey because their both low slung wagons without van like sliding doors.

Talking about under appreciated cars. If you happen to find this on sale. Grab it. It is basically a VW Golf MK5 in a sedan body. Being a Skoda it should be dirt cheap too.


2010 Toyota RAV4 2.4 - for that kinda price why not consider something from the recon/unreg world. You'll be paying about the same but of course you'll be getting a much better car either JDM or export spec. Click on the advertisement and see the pictures and specs for yourself, it is all good. Plus you know with Toyota the car is reliable, good fc, and spare parts are cheap. Plus also instant approval from your in-laws FaMa. Parts and maintenance isn't going to cost you a bomb even-though it is an imported car because it shares the mechanical parts especially the engine with Camry (ASV40) and Alphard (AH30) specifically the 2AR-FE engine. I think this would be a super upgrade for you.

meaning the car is actually pretty decent but it is below market price?

i think the market price is a fair representation of the cars/brands we have.

Toyota/Honda/Merc - usually have high resale value because they produce pretty good and reliable cars. in the past their sales were so good that distributors and stockist even bothered to source for cheaper parts from overseas because there is margin and volume.

Nissan/VW - Nissan has (and VW will follow soon) itself in the foot by playing around with their car prices too much especially with their overtrade policy, they buy from the consumer at slightly higher than market rate then dump into the market at slightly lower than market rate, this forced the used car dealers to go even lower to be able to sell their cars. I think they've stopped this practice but the damage has been done, Nissan doesn't have a high RV like THM.

All other conti - depreciate like a rock not because the cars aren't good but parts are expensive and buyers normally just keep them around until warranty over then sell them on, with many willing to even sell at below market price to "get rid" of the car before expensive maintenance schedule or parts replacements are needed. The problem is expensive parts is because it is monopoly by the brand owner, due in part there isn't enough volume for stockist to bring in cheaper stock from overseas. Imagine they bring in one container of brake pads for Citroen, he retire also not yet finish selling.

This post has been edited by zenix: Jul 13 2016, 11:51 AM

You are not female, so don't buy car based on design. Nased on what you need and the practical part.

If you really want the second hand sportage, go ask around the mechanic for maintenance part fees, FC and other.

I feel XV good because its new and fit your budget. And lately, they try to clear off too, so possible got big discount. Go ask around, New always better then used.

my opinion tho

Well, actually I can afford Fluence, but I may not have that money to run it.... First the FC. No doubt 2.0 will higer FC than a 1.5 correct?

I live in klang so, both SC also near me. One of the reason why M2 let me reconsider abit is the safety features, seem outdated.

Running a 2.0 japs isn't cheaps also correct?

And running a 1.5 also isn't cheaps nowadays.

Yea, attraged I ruled out already. But the price so tempting haha. Is it really A seg? Same as my vios size only.

Afte think so much its better to save the few k to used on M2 or city.

City airbag, cvt and batt problem solved?

2.0 fc might not actually be higher... cause you dont need to push it so hard to move about. The thing that will make that fc go up, is the fatter heavier body. if you ask me... main costs come from the tax, insurance blabla, and maybe engine oil only... rest of it isnt very different (if you take into account similar engines)