why dont you mention exactly which models...

fresh grad... save ur $, dont convert convertlah....

used inspira
- will cost more to maintain, if you start modifying, even more so.
- me like this car, pretty decent if you ask me (look for a stock non-abused unit, generally, stock = less likely to be abused)
-i have a hatred of all cars that are kitted but have no go... same applies to those with straight pipes which scream like hell is unleashed but go nowhere. if its kited like an evo, it better be as powerful as an evo... but thats just me

new preve (i assume campro)
- is depressing... i just dont like it so im gona skip this (admitedly senang jagalagh, simple and horrible as hell engine)
used preve cfe
- alright under 40k for a 3yo used unit, cfe helps abit... more power better fc
- problem is with proton qc....

would still pick the inspira over the preve..... (i have a soft spot for the inspira)

about the roadtax figures,
1600cc rm90
1800cc rm280 (plus 190)
2000cc rm380 (plus 100)
the sicnificant jump is between the 1.6l and 1.8l.... 2.0l isnt actually that much more than the 2.0l.... if that amount is considered a problem, best you stick with the smaller engines

whatever problem the cfe has the campro has as well.... only issue the cfe had was the cooler hose which has been fixed~
the campro is underpowered.... weak engine + heavy body, not a good combination.... (preve is very fat at 1.3 tons)

really depends... but assuming mixed driving, i would say the best would be the inspira followed by the cfe then the campro.... simply because the campro is so so underpowered. It has no torque down low so you really have to push it hard (forcing you to uss more fuel) to get it going especially if you have a load.

The campro is frankly is not a very advanced engine, i would go as far as to claim that there are many engines over 10 years older which incorporate more advanced technologies


some figures for you. Note that the preve is a mix of both the cps and the turbo (assume that the campro is pulling those figures down) while the inspira is a mix of the 1.8 and 2.0 (i know the 1.8 and 2.0 manage very similar figures)
http://www.fuelly.com/car/proton/preve
http://www.fuelly.com/car/proton/inspira

Of XV, when you said new, did you mean new as in 1st hand car year 2016? Saw the price about RM120k+ at official website. Used XV about 75-85k for 2013/2014

Enlighten me.

1. Brand : Toyota
2. Budget : Below 30k [loan]
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Any
6. NA or FI : FI
7. Type : 4 Seater
8. Remarks : Should I take Altis 1.6 or 1.8? Everyday family car not going to city just go work from Putrajya to KLIA. Budget monthly below 600 @ 3-4 years.

This post has been edited by e_X: Jul 14 2016, 03:04 AM

Wait. 2015 stock finished?

Sorry I less follow Subaru. Last I heard is 92k.

First car of your life? Still studying?

P1 or p2.

Both easy maintained.

P1 can go for persona. 40k only.

P2 axis or myvi.

Simple.

Inspira maintain wil high cost. Preve also

fresh grad i think? hehe

inspira is good but i agree.... maintanance can be tougher.

cheapo iriz, maivee, axia, saga, persona, boleh dah...... ppl say if you are in sales u need to drive a nice car? i duno about thatlah.


when it comes to fresh grads, I always offer advice contradictory to what i did <= am genius bought a 20 yo pretty car haha


edit: e_X if u can wait, the perodua bezza is coming out soon... should be a very decent car. am not that convinced that a 1.0 can lug it around properly tho, but that remains to be seen.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jul 14 2016, 10:07 AM

I think Fluence or Sylphy are realistic targets for a new C-segment car.

City is a realistic target for a B-segment car as a C-segment replacement, although slightly smaller the stretch rear helps to give your passengers extra legroom, plus in terms of safety systems and accessories it blows the Fluence and Sylphy out of the water. So unless you're able to get a Civic at a huge discount there really is no better car. New stock for City should have all the recall updates already done before you collect the car, if you're worried about it make sure they provide you proof that it has been done in case you need to sue them later

Also if you think the Honda CVT has problems I'm going to make an evil laugh coz the CVT in Mitsubishi/Nissan/Renault are even more terrible.

Attrage/Mirage are modern A-segments can't really compare with older ones like Kancil, Viva, etc because those are real death traps and have cramped interior.

2012 Nissan Latio 1.6 - this one comes with factory fitted Impul bodykits so it would appeal to your "all show no go" philosophy. It is pretty good looking in stock condition, and I don't think you'd need to change anything or you could change to bigger rims and lower profile tires which will result in poorer fuel economy and unreliable odometer reading but it will look cool. You can get the rims at the infamous kedai papan at Klang on the cheap if you trade-in your more tough and reliable OEM but boring rims it would cost you around RM600-800 for a set of 16-18" rims (this is a C-segment so it can fit 18" rims) and cheapo tires with brand names like Simex, Triangle, Westlake, etc. Maintenance wise it is about there with Honda City and Toyota Vios being in the 1500-1600cc engine category you can also opt to use cheap mineral based engine oil to save money, but most likely you'll need to change it often because with such a sporty looking car I doubt you'll drive it like a grandpa. It is cheaper to change mineral oil often than semi-syn anyway and don't fall for the 10,000km fully synthetic trap.

If you can't afford the extra RM100 difference between 1800cc and 2000cc roadtax you've no idea the world if shit you're getting yourself into.

They are clearing stock at around 90k plus.

sos

Since you're going to be taking up a loan for this car then your choices are cars 2006 or younger.

2009 Nissan Sentra 1.6 - it is always recommended to get a car as young as possible that meets your requirements and loan, I know Altis is a choice but it would be older, although the Sentra is based on older technology the production only stopped around 2009 so therefore the car is still relatively new (7 years old). At this price range you can't be too fussy on certain things if you want a younger car which I recommend for non-car person buyers due to lesser potential issues. Not much to choose from and I'm not loving this particular advert because it isn't all stock/original looks to be modified.

2009 Nissan Latio 1.6 - this is a C-segment like the Sentra and is based on a newer design and platform so of course passive safety aspects like a more rigid body with accident crumple zones are incorporated into this car, however it is still pretty basic C-segment like the Sentra without things like rear disc brakes but it has ABS but doesn't have stuff common in C-segments now like BA (brake assist) and EBD (electronic brake distribution), they both lack ESC (electronic stability control e.g. VSA in honda and VSC in Toyota) but it is also missing in most Nissan's except higher range like Serena and Teana. However, you get a much more spacious interior and boot space compared to the Sentra. Maintenance would be about the same for both cars as they're both 1600cc engines and from Nissan, Nissan parts are easily available and cheap.

2007 Honda Accord 2.0 - however, if safety and comfort aspects are important to you maybe you should consider an older D-segment. Unfortunately, even 10 years old this is another 10k from your budget but looking around there are Toyota Altis 1.6/1.8 in similar price bracket so why not choose a D-segment? The roadtax and maintenance difference between 1.8/2.0 is negligible but the benefits are a bigger and more comfortable family car and a full array of safety elements like ABS, EBD, BA, VSA, etc. Since your drive to work on mostly on highways anyway the fuel consumption difference between 1.6/2.0 is also negligible as 2.0 performs better on highways. Unfortunately that would mean the car is older and might be some repairs are needed so it is best to get a friendly mech to help you inspect before purchasing.

It isn't impossible to get a good deal at this price range but must be more prudent.

would be another land whale with micro heart like the attrage

that i agree.... 1.3 should be alright kut..... but the 1.0.... oh my....

Brand : Any
Budget : Below 60k
New/Used/Unreg : New
Transmission : Auto
Type : Any
Remarks : Safety and FC

mazda 6 2.0 second hand 2013-2014 vs new civic turbo.
Thoughts anyone ?
This is car is for family and long distance driving.
Both have same amount of interior space but mazda 6 has less power.

hmmm dif segment... mazda should quite abit larger...... just go view both i guess...

It's roughly the same except that mazda is slightly wider, leg room and everything roughly the same.
I test drove it but the problem is I couldn't test highway speed, only city driving kind of speed.

This post has been edited by Drian: Jul 14 2016, 03:22 PM

Lol I duno la. For me 1st car should can than lasak one. Don't little bit cant start la. this la that la. Outside mechanic also duno shit. that's dangerous. And bezza ad out. lol. 1.0 really facepalm.

Probalby taking M2. Fluence can buy buy tax and fc tak buli. lol. M2 6 speed rite. I not that use to cvt tbh haha

Thanks zenix

How about Vios 2008?

Hi there. Any mechanic offering car checkup service for used vehicle ?

what to do?
people want cheap

If 60k is the absolute number then your choices are pretty limited to Nissan Almera (lowest spec), Toyota Vios (J-spec) or Mitsubishi Attrage.
Any of these cars interest you?
FC wise Almera/Attrage doesn't cut it unless you drive like a grandpa.
Vios is pretty decent for FC but technology wise it is pretty dated.
Safety wise in this price range there isn't anything amazing.

Things would change if you want to consider local cars from Proton/Perodua or even Koreans.
Let me know what you think.

One is a used D-segment car another is a new C-segment car.
Apple and Watermelon cannot be compared.

2011 Merc C200 - if you're thinking of the Civic Turbo then I'm assuming you've got the budget up until 130k with that kind of budget and your requirements why not consider a recon/unreg instead of used? You're able to fetch a pretty good Merc recon for that price. It would be a great family car because it is a C-Class it has the space, comfort, luxury and safety equipment you wanted in the Mazda6 but this C200 even has more and is better. Then it also has the performance you'd want from the Civic, as this is a 1800cc turbo charged engine (Merc lingo CGI engine = turbo), now this is not crazy performance turbo like that in an Evo. GTI or Impreza, like most modern turbo's it is meant more for fuel economy and passing emissions but c'mon it is a German car they don't make wimpy engines so it is going to be pretty quick much quicker than the Civic despite it's bulk but it is not going to surge ahead and give you whiplash like an Evo, you've gotta test drive to understand. Maintenance part well as you can see this model of Merc is everywhere and there are many Merc specialist around so don't worry about expensive maintenance, I'm not saying it is going to be cheap to maintain like a Civic it would be in the range of a Mazda6, Camry, and other D-segments generally. An advantage of recons/unreg over used is dealer warranty and new car interest rates.

Lol! twice you defended the Mazda2 without backup, i guess you really like it, just buy it then
What you mean buy buy tax and fc tak buli?
That's just silly nonsense excuse to exclude City