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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V3),, ASK HERE for recommendations

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post Jul 8 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 8 2016, 10:00 AM)
now.... define 'low' cause compared to a viva, their maintanance costs will me a multiplied figure
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My viva usually cost around RM100 for normal service (Engine Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter). Looking for around Rm300 to rm400 maintenance cost.
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post Jul 8 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Jul 8 2016, 10:22 AM)
My viva usually cost around RM100 for normal service (Engine Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter). Looking for around Rm300 to rm400 maintenance cost.
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not sure about air filter....but i see ppl paying around 200+ for fully synthetic oil + oil filter

not that expensive though....
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post Jul 8 2016, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(amir_kaldra @ Jul 8 2016, 10:22 AM)
My viva usually cost around RM100 for normal service (Engine Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter). Looking for around Rm300 to rm400 maintenance cost.
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ahh then you are pretty safe..... the 3 choices of yours 'Preve, Vios, Inspira' will fit in just fine.....

preve cfe (i have no respect for the non-turbo models. in my mind, they don't exist whistling.gif)
+ loaded with safety features, really loaded (this is the no 1 selling point of this car)
+ fairly reliable
+- handling is great but to me, does not seem that powerful but in your case, should seem like a bullet! (unless you have a monster hiding under your viva's bonnet, yrv perhaps? brows.gif)
- fc aint that great in towns or if you like to tekan
- technically speaking maintanance down the years might be slightly higher (turbos need to be rebuilt one day and all that)

Inspira
+ basically a mitsu
+ great handling quite powerful, fc similar to the preve cfe
+ fairly high speced
- (i have learnt recently... stability control tadak though)

vios (will admit, am slightly... mildly.... biased against vioses)
+reliable as hell
+ decent fc
- old junk tech (good cause its proven, bad cause its still old junk tech)
- resale too high (good car to buy new/sell off in a few years, not so to buy 2nd hand sweat.gif)
- specs are meh at best

only other alternatives i can think of atm are the city (gen5) and mazda 3 (i am ignoring all kimchi cars)
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+ also well speced
+ reliable car
- airbag issue, (they are replacing them by batches~)
- not that great fc since they switched to the simpler tranny
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post Jul 8 2016, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 8 2016, 10:00 AM)
I am assuming you want the 3s models, cause the rest are kinda sad (dont think we have many of the rest here anyway). Well the caldina is a proven car, parts are not that difficult, the caldina or 3s clubs can lead you the way when it comes to parts. One other point though, the caldina will drink alot more fuel than the m6... problem would be looking for an untrashed unit. many of these as well altezzas, celicas, and most older performance oriented cars have been abused at one point of their lives and you can tell. (personally trashing once in awhile is part and parcel of a sports car's life, but so long as the owner keeps it in good cond, thats alright, its built to take some punishment)

just a point ya, if you are in it for the caldina's power, u can also consider the turbo airtreks....
imo airtrek is a better machine if you are just in it for the power..... looks wise really subjective laugh.gif. mechanically, lots are shared with the evo series and the gearbox is really lasak even if you want to push 400 or so hp. (from what i was told)

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I was considering airtrek at some point but caldina is a "taller" car and comes with VSC which airtrek doesnt have. Any idea loan is still possible with caldina year 2003?
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post Jul 8 2016, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(weikeat90 @ Jul 8 2016, 09:13 PM)
I was considering airtrek at some point but caldina is a "taller" car and comes with VSC which airtrek doesnt have. Any idea loan is still possible with caldina year 2003?
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No good with loan stuff and all that.... The caldina is a nice car, its alright if you really like it I guess... Only thing bad about caldinas are their age

(personally don't like it and the airtrek for one reason.... The auto sluchbox, urgh.... Performance + old autos are not my cup of tea but that's just me rclxms.gif)
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Planning to get used low mileage BMW E90 325i 2.5cc / F30 328i 2.0cc as a weekend car, which should I go for ?
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post Jul 10 2016, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ Jul 10 2016, 12:31 PM)
Planning to get used low mileage BMW E90 325i 2.5cc / F30 328i 2.0cc as a weekend car, which should I go for ?
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Why not a 5 series 2.5L or 2.8L ?

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post Jul 10 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jul 10 2016, 01:12 PM)
Why not a 5 series 2.5L or 2.8L ?

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E60 not a problematic car ?
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post Jul 10 2016, 04:54 PM

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Hey guys, any general tips on buying used cars? Seems like all the ads on Mudah are the same. 99% like new, lady owner, low millage etc. What are the procedures (and precautions) when choosing a car? Not much can be done if something malfunctions 2-3 months after buying one. rclxub.gif
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post Jul 11 2016, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(Iroquois Plissken @ Jul 10 2016, 04:54 PM)
Hey guys, any general tips on buying used cars? Seems like all the ads on Mudah are the same. 99% like new, lady owner, low millage etc. What are the procedures (and precautions) when choosing a car? Not much can be done if something malfunctions 2-3 months after buying one.  rclxub.gif
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Bring your trusted foreman go along to test and inspect.
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post Jul 11 2016, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ Jul 11 2016, 04:17 AM)
Bring your trusted foreman go along to test and inspect.
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Ya, thats the best. I also am seeing alot of e60s postings!!
Gotta control that urge!! bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Jul 11 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 1 2016, 07:59 PM)
i knew that the base 2.0 had no ESC....  when its funny when you compare them like that....  doh.gif
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yeap.

Andrew buy Iriz even shittest low spec got ESC
Werdna buy Perdana 2.0 at over 100k tarak ESC laugh.gif

not funny meh?
what a joke cool2.gif

QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jul 3 2016, 07:52 PM)
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i guess if more people don't report then nothing will happen.

QUOTE(face @ Jul 4 2016, 09:22 AM)
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maybe u can care to explain everything more clearly.
what is your budget?
what you'll use it for? go work only? go outstation? you use the car alot so high mileage?
what cars you're looking at? model/price/new/used/mileage/etc

QUOTE(nasbbq1992 @ Jul 4 2016, 03:00 PM)
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i dunno is it just me or there really was a problem.
when they started making ckd units of the previous generation of swifts i notice many had rear lamp issues.
some become fishtank or either one of the lights were always out.

the best is of course the CBU Japan Suzuki Swift Sport but that's a 1600cc manual performance hatch.
it competes with cars like CRZ and Mini.

regular maintenance isn't an issue and if you're talking about the previous generation there are lots of them on the road thus there is an economics of scale for cheap parts but don't expect as cheap as Toyota/Honda caars.

QUOTE(csvanguard @ Jul 5 2016, 09:59 AM)
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1993 Proton Wira 1.6XLi - i suppose at such price range and requirements this is probably the best you can get. I'm surprised a 23 year old car is still in such stock condition as the Wira 1.6's were quite sought after as a made for modification as they've got a decent engine and gearbox just some tweaks it can give you can extra 2-5hp. If you're not into modification (which I don't recommend) then the reason why this is better than the Wira 1.5GLi is because of the gearbox. Wira 1.6 has 4 speed autobox, while the Wira 1.5 only has a 3 speed autobox. In terms of reliability both are pretty decent if well taken care of but the 3 speeder from the Wira 1.5 is almost bullet proof but the fuel economy/performance is terrible, so that's why the Wira 1.6 is better it covers everything pretty well with a decent gearbox that is quite reliable, fuel economical (for 90's standards) and 4at performance. Few key things you need to take note when buying something this old and this cheap:

Mountings: if the car shakes/vibrates badly when standstill at traffic light and your gear is in D, that means they're kaput.
Bearings: if there is a droning sound coming from the tires, that means they're kaput.
Cars of this age usually have kaput lower control arms, rack-ends and ball joints.

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post Jul 11 2016, 10:30 AM

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have u checked out Topmark's showroom in JB?
I know they're more expensive but it is a sub company under UMW toyota.
they promise the used cars they sell are of decent condition and no major accidents.
they also give a limited warranty.
the process is like buying a new car.

QUOTE(fortunateSA @ Jul 5 2016, 02:40 PM)
i saw those dirt cheap used peugeot sedans are they worth buying or not, under 10k also got
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car might be cheap but parts are expensive.
who knows the owner might be offering a very low ball price just to get rid of it.
changing the bushings itself might cost u 2k or more.

QUOTE(milky @ Jul 5 2016, 03:26 PM)
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If you're talking about the unregistered/recon units here are a few differentiation factors.

Spec: Just like Vios/Altis/Camry they've got different spec (e.g. G-spec, etc) and limited editions.
Doors: You want all 2 power door and a power boot (they open and close by a push of the button) you gotta pay more.
Special spec: Like their Welcam version for the elderly.
Grade: this is the condition of which it arrives at the showroom.

Now the latest craze is Goo Kantei inspection.

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jul 5 2016, 06:26 PM)
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Andrew vs Andrew hmm.gif

QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 5 2016, 07:33 PM)
guys,
what do you all think of Honda CRV year 2007-2010 second hand, is it a good car? any common problem?
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It is a solid car.
Engine and gearbox shared with Stream/Odyssey/Accord/Civic so parts isn't an issue.

FYI there are major model changes for SUV this year.

Mitsubishi just launched their new Outlander.
Mazda will unveil their facelift version of the CX5 which will have the cool interior and Skyactiv engine upgrades from the Mazda6.
Suzuki will launch the all new Vitara soon in Malaysia (it has already been launched in Brunei) it will ape the good looks of the Evoque.

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Honda is quietly doing a stock clearance of their current CRV while production has been decreased to make way for more Civics in the production line, after the Civic hype expect at the end of the year or early 2017 tehy'll strike with an all new CRV. Look at the spyshot MA took, it looks to be bigger and more muscular looking.

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post Jul 11 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Jul 5 2016, 09:22 PM)
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Their cars are decent now in the context of Malaysia but their sales team and after sales team still sucks.
Unfortunately there is where they fail the most.

QUOTE(weikeat90 @ Jul 5 2016, 10:48 PM)
any comments on mazda 6 2.5L 2010 facelifted model? can get around 65k at mudah dot com.
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it's a japanese cbu, what comment u expecting?
wait lemme read ur mind...

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QUOTE(young_97 @ Jul 6 2016, 11:16 PM)
hey guys, does the new Proton Iriz has alot of problems like the previous proton cars problem ??
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you need to ask our Iriz expert andrewyu2005

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Actually there are no major issues with the Civic 9gen, only thing is the engine is not a K20 DOHC i-VTEC but a R18 SOHC i-VTEC (kenot gloat during car club meeting so remain 2"), then the styling is pretty boring, other than that it is a decent car.

Good FC, good power for 1800cc, not too expensive to maintain for 1800cc engine, etc.

You should check if the owner sent the car to do all the honda recalls of late.

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Go for the Inspira, read my comments about it few pages back.
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 8 2016, 01:31 PM)
ahh then you are pretty safe.....  the 3 choices of yours 'Preve, Vios, Inspira' will fit in just fine.....

preve cfe (i have no respect for the non-turbo models. in my mind, they don't exist whistling.gif)
+ loaded with safety features, really loaded (this is the no 1 selling point of this car)
+ fairly reliable
+- handling is great but to me, does not seem that powerful but in your case, should seem like a bullet! (unless you have a monster hiding under your viva's bonnet, yrv perhaps? brows.gif)
- fc aint that great in towns or if you like to tekan (but u no tekan/drop to 2/L tebu no kick in yo & driving becomes miserable!!!)
- technically speaking maintenance down the years might be slightly higher (turbos need to be rebuilt one day and all that) you're also pretty much locked into buying from Proton or their local OEM's not like Japan cars where u can buy from distributors/stockist that import cheaper parts from other factories all over the world.
TLDR if u like to drive fast this would be a safe car to be in if anything happens

Inspira
+ basically a mitsu I think it is a Taxi spec being CKD coz build quality is different from the Japan CBU Lancers
+ great handling quite powerful, fc similar to the preve cfe
+ fairly high speced
+ C-segment and at this price range getting C-segment and not very old and decent looking is hard unless you want Nissan Latio
- (i have learnt recently... stability control tadak though) Cheaper C's like Latio/Sylphy/Sentra also don't have ESC

vios (will admit, am slightly... mildly.... biased against vioses)
+reliable as hell
+ decent fc
- old junk tech (good cause its proven, bad cause its still old junk tech)
- resale too high (good car to buy new/sell off in a few years, not so to buy 2nd hand sweat.gif)
- specs are meh at best
- B segment
- small interior space if you're planning for family you should think about stretched B's like Almera / City current gen

only other alternatives i can think of atm are the city (gen5) and mazda 3 (i am ignoring all kimchi cars)
city
+ also well speced
+ reliable car
- airbag issue, (they are replacing them by batches~)
- not that great fc since they switched to the simpler tranny
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let me add a few points.

QUOTE(weikeat90 @ Jul 8 2016, 09:13 PM)
I was considering airtrek at some point but caldina is a "taller" car and comes with VSC which airtrek doesnt have. Any idea loan is still possible with caldina year 2003?
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Airtrek = SUV/crossover
Caldina = stationwagon

how can Caldina be "taller"? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(Raymond T. @ Jul 10 2016, 12:31 PM)
Planning to get used low mileage BMW E90 325i 2.5cc / F30 328i 2.0cc as a weekend car, which should I go for ?
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ah....another month already....time to poison someone devil.gif

QUOTE(Iroquois Plissken @ Jul 10 2016, 04:54 PM)
Hey guys, any general tips on buying used cars? Seems like all the ads on Mudah are the same. 99% like new, lady owner, low millage etc. What are the procedures (and precautions) when choosing a car? Not much can be done if something malfunctions 2-3 months after buying one.  rclxub.gif
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hehe....of course....many conman there laugh.gif
what you're looking for?
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post Jul 11 2016, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 11 2016, 10:43 AM)
you need to ask our Iriz expert andrewyu2005
Actually there are no major issues with the Civic 9gen, only thing is the engine is not a K20 DOHC i-VTEC but a R18 SOHC i-VTEC (kenot gloat during car club meeting so remain 2"), then the styling is pretty boring, other than that it is a decent car.
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Alamak it was nice and quiet...

And yeah everyone loves the k20.... Maybe a little too much, great engine and all but I still maintain, some think that cause it shares the same name as the r, its similar.... Its definitely not...
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 11 2016, 11:16 AM)
Alamak it was nice and quiet...
And yeah everyone loves the k20.... Maybe a little too much, great engine and all but I still maintain, some think that cause it shares the same name as the r, its similar.... Its definitely not...
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materials itself oredi know difference brows.gif
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post Jul 11 2016, 12:44 PM

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btw, whats the processing fees for buying a used car now ah? some used car are charging up to RM2000-RM4000. I find it to be too expensive. please advice what is the normal price.
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 11 2016, 12:44 PM)
btw, whats the processing fees for buying a used car now ah? some used car are charging up to RM2000-RM4000. I find it to be too expensive. please advice what is the normal price.
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no normal price for this processing fee, its any figure they want.... i also kene this bs so i just walked away

to me, you should include these processing fees into the total cost of the car, and use this 'total cost' as the final value to be used for comparison

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