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Hardware The iPhone, First Mac OS based phones
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OmniAtlas
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Sep 25 2007, 08:15 PM
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Clarification from apple:
Apple's Phil Schiller was quoted by an Associated Press article about today's announcement that SIM Unlocked iPhones may become permanently disabled by upcoming iPhone updates.
Schiller clarifies that this is not an intentional move to disable unlocked iPhones: ''This has nothing to do with proactively disabling a phone that is unlocked or hacked,'' Phil Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said in an interview. ''It's unfortunate that some of these programs have caused damage to the iPhone software, but Apple cannot be responsible for ... those consequences.''
To clarify, this appears to affect iPhones that have been specifically SIM Unlocked to use other carrier SIM cards besides AT&T. iPhones otherwise "hacked" to install 3rd party applications are unlikely to be affected in the same manner.
This post has been edited by OmniAtlas: Sep 25 2007, 08:18 PM
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iamseng
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Sep 25 2007, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(derred @ Sep 25 2007, 06:27 PM) There is wifi remember, of coz u can. Plus if u subscribe EDGE, u can use that too. If u don't subscribe they will charge per kb download then. Hehe, thanx alot bro... but how much to suscribe to EDGE from celcom may i ask? Cos currently using Maxis, but getting fed up with their 3G coverage
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derred
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Sep 25 2007, 09:02 PM
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I am with AT&T so no idea. The news above ur post is scary tho. QUOTE September 25, 2007
Apple Inc. warned users that they can permanently damage their iPhones by modifying the cellular phones to work on unauthorized wireless networks, a move that could diminish a potential threat to Apple's iPhone partnerships with carriers like AT&T Inc.
In a statement, Apple said it has discovered that unauthorized iPhone "unlocking" programs cause damage to the device's software that could make the phone "permanently inoperable" when users install future software updates from Apple. The Cupertino, Calif., company said that any permanent disabling of iPhone that stems from the installation of unlocking software isn't covered on the product's warranty. [iPhone]
The warning is likely to rankle the online community of programmers who have come up with various unlocking programs that permit users to reprogram the phones so that they can work on any wireless network based on the global system for mobile communications, or GSM, technical standard.
Apple has struck exclusive partnerships with wireless carriers in three countries -- AT&T in the U.S., Telefónica SA's O2 in the United Kingdom and Deutsche Telekom AG's T-Mobile in Germany -- that permit the phone to be used only by subscribers to those networks. Apple's approach has irked some users, particularly international travelers who want to be able to purchase airtime on wireless networks when they are abroad to avoid high roaming charges.
Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president for world-wide product marketing, declined to describe the technical problems caused by unlocking software, which includes programs known as iUnlock and AnySIM. He said any permanent damage to unlocked iPhones that occurs after users install software updates from Apple would be inadvertent on Apple's part.
"We're not proactively trying to disable an iPhone that has been hacked or unlocked by software," said Mr. Schiller.
Apple itself, though, has recently suggested it might make deliberate attempts to counteract the effects of the unlocking programs. When asked about the topic in a recent interview, Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs said he wasn't worried about the impact of such programs. "It's a cat-and-mouse game," Mr. Jobs said. "We have a lot of really good cats."
Users with unlocked iPhones, in theory, might avoid the problems simply by not installing Apple software updates. That means they will then likely have to forgo new features Apple designs for the phones. Apple said its next iPhone-software update will be available later this week and will include the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, a new capability that will let users wirelessly download songs from iTunes.
Jennifer Granick, civil-liberties director at the online-rights organization Electronic Frontier Foundation, said iPhone sales likely wouldn't suffer from widespread unlocking of the phone since it might actually make the product more desirable to some customers. Apple's exclusive carrier partners, though, could be harmed if customers are able to use iPhones on the network of their choosing. Ms. Granick, who has worked on legal issues related to cellphone unlocking, believes Apple likely has, as part of its contract with carriers like AT&T, an obligation to ensure a "technologically robust" link between the networks and iPhones.
An AT&T spokesman declined to comment. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1190674506...p_us_whats_newsThis post has been edited by derred: Sep 25 2007, 10:02 PM
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MoNnY
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Sep 26 2007, 12:08 AM
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yeap... but think about it, this update, only itunes wifi store.. i don't know about u guys, but i don't need it... haha
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sayming
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Sep 26 2007, 03:01 AM
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So is anyone doing any petition of any sort for this Maxis thing? Do inform to get more support
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froggyx
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Sep 26 2007, 10:36 AM
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Hi guys,Great thread about the iphone here.  Just wondering if i should do a service to get iphone from the states.cause i'll be going there on 2nd of oct.for minimal charge maybe i can bring in the iphone from the states.i am not doing business on the iphone.just want to help those who cant afford to pay high price.I am sure getting one for myself.anyone want to piggy tumpang can pm me.lets all use the iphone.thanks a lot.please dont flame me cause i am not doing this for my business or myself.oh and yeah the price will be RM 1700 + tax(not sure about california tax though)and if there is any malaysian custom charge will apply to.thanks again.
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Kerry1136
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Sep 26 2007, 11:19 AM
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Is profit all you can think about?
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froggyx
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Sep 26 2007, 11:42 AM
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Hi please clarify by "is profit all u can think about".i am doing this with my own time in the states cause i feel that to pay for 8gb version with the other forumer are doing bulk is at RM2300 is a bit pricey.my intention is to help forumers to get the iphone directly fron there without taking any money for myself and with a cheaper price.if there is any change from the RM 1700 the money will be refund to when u took pesession of the phone.thanks again for your comment.
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Kerry1136
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Sep 26 2007, 11:51 AM
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If your looking to start a bulk, you are in the wrong thread.
And my apologies for mis-read your post. Your words seem to have jumbled altogether.
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froggyx
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Sep 26 2007, 12:33 PM
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It is probably my mistake to jumble up the words as my son is tagging me when i wrote the reply.no apology is necessary my friend.I just tought that whoever is intrested can pm me since there a lot of forumers would like to have the iphone but staying away from the price.I can only carry a few with me as i am on duty during that time,just to save on the courrier service charge and ensure that the phone does not have any damage with the courrier service,so i decide to carry it.thats all.thanks again.
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Kerry1136
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Sep 26 2007, 01:43 PM
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No worries. It is kinda my fault that I mis-read and jump to conclusion.
Anyhow if you plan to start a bulk then I'd suggest you head to the garage section.
But if you plan to help the forumers by bringing in one or two then I suppose there is no harm to post it here.
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akihito
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Sep 26 2007, 01:54 PM
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i bought an iphone from ebay and now that parcel end up in the Custom >_< not sure how much they will charge me for the import tax and the sirim shit
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stringfellow
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Sep 26 2007, 02:23 PM
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stringfellow
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Sep 26 2007, 02:26 PM
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   This last pic was taken inside the TourdeForce Production warehouse where the Rock 'n' RollerCoaster featuring Aerosmith is located. It's a dark ride, so the interior was lit only with intermittent spotlights, with klaxons and launchhorns blaring. The pic was taken right before the coaster blasts off the launchpad into the 360 degree inversion. Click the pic for full size, it's pretty grainy, but you can still make the details even at such low light level.  Just to clear things up, Celcom DOES NOT have EDGE, they only have GPRS working on the iPhone. So does Maxis, only GPRS, since these two telcos have skipped EDGE to 3G/UMTS. Only Digi have EDGE. SO with your 3G sim cards, unless your telco have GPRS standby by as the backup connection AND you have opted to activate and subscribe to a particular service plan( voice AND/OR data), you wont be able to use EDGE. It is common occurence for Youtube to turn up in error once you have done the full sim unlock, you need to reactivate it back again, using the PACAY single batch file activation. Google it up.
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megatron007
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Sep 26 2007, 03:49 PM
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WoW that's cool !
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black^demon
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Sep 26 2007, 03:53 PM
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Dayumn,wuts ur occupation man?
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stringfellow
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Sep 26 2007, 03:59 PM
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Bus driver....and sometimes i bring people around to places to visit. You know, one of those tour guides from mainland China holding thin poles with small flags on top of them.  Tokyo pics in 3 days, if you like.
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wei
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Sep 26 2007, 04:05 PM
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wah... bz till no time to check mail ka?  haha, nice photos there, big thanks for uploading and shaing. demm, just got the news my iPhone delay another week. so please stop "taruk poison" at the moment This post has been edited by wei: Sep 26 2007, 04:05 PM
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stringfellow
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Sep 26 2007, 04:09 PM
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Hahahahah, no lah, caught a stray Wifi spot and in came the mails!  Just woke up after work, so hadnt really the time to read them. Mostly newsletters methinks. The photos would turn out better if its not for the London-like cloud cover there. Most of the time i had to tilt the phone proper to avoid capturing just dark silhouettes against the cloudy background.
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