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post Jan 2 2007, 11:08 PM, updated 19y ago

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lets continue our discussion here... thumbup.gif

PROUD P4 478 USERS


Pentium 4 'C' Northwood/Gallatin (30cappers)/Pentium 4-M 800FSB HT

1) siauann - 2.8C @ 3.71 | Abit IC7-G | Corsair XMS XPERT ddr530 | Leadtek 6600GT
2) zeustronic - 2.8C @ 3.3 | Asus P4S800 | A-Data ddr400 512mb*2 | Palit Radeon X800
3) d3x - 2.8C @ 3.08 | Asus P4P800 Deluxe | Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro
4) kucingfight - 2.8C @ 3.8 | Abit AI7 | Infeneon CE5 ECC ddr400 1gb*2 | Galaxy 6600
5) KahLooN - 2.6C @ 3.25 | Abit IC7-Max3 | Patriot XBL ddr600 512mb*2 | PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro
6) evilnickwong - 2.4C @ 3.0 | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe | A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb*2 | Grandmars 6600GT
7) raymond5105 - 2.6C @ 3.315 | Asus P4P800-X | Hynix BT-J ddr400 256mb*4 | Leadtek FX5900
7) raymond5105 - 3.2C @ 3.68 | Abit AI7 | Kingston Hynix BT-D43 ddr400 512mb*2 | Abit GeForce Ti4200
8) saiaha - 3.06C @ 3.24 | MSI Neo 2 | OCZ ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon 9600XT
9) mulut99 - 2.8C @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Apacer ddr400 512mb*2 | nVidia FX5200
10) toch3 - 2.4C @ stock | MSI P4M800 | Kingston ddr400 512+Apacer ddr400 512mb*2 | Gigabyte Radeon 9550
11) enter - 3.2C @ stock | Intel D865GBF | Kingston ddr400 256mb*4 | ATI Radeon 9550
12) overclockalbert - 3.2C @ 3.52 | Abit IC7 | Corsair C2PT Winbond UTT ddr440 512mb*2 | Palit 6800GS
13) choongkeat - 2.8C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr400 256mb*2 | ATI Radeon 9550
14) Nostalgia - 2.8C @ 3.22 | Asus P4P800 | OCZ EL Platinum Rev.2.0 ddr400 512mb*2 | PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro
15) allenultra - 2.8C @ 3.3 | Abit AI7 | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | HIS Radeon 9550
16) glo - 2.8C @ 3.4 | Asus P4C800 Deluxe | Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb*2 | XFX 7800GS
16) glo - 2.8C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Geil ddr400 1gb | XFX 6600GT
17) shift - 2.8C @ stock | MSI 848P Neo V | Transcend ddr400 512mb | nVidia FX5200
18) AREA51 - P4-M 2.2 @ 3.12 | Asus P4P800-X | Apacer UCCC ddr520 512mb*2 | Leadtek 6800NU
19) jayhan - 2.6C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Apacer ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon 9550XT
20) allenultra - 2.4C @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | HIS Radeon 9550
21) Jcsy - 2.4C @ 2.6 | Dfi 865PE | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | HIS IceQII Radeon X800Pro
22) iori_argami - 3.0C (es) @ stock | Abit AI7 | A-Data Vitesta ddr500 512mb*2 | Gigabyte Radeon 9600XT
23) altie - 2.6C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair XMS Pro LED ddr400 512mb*2 | Unika Radeon X800XT
24) altie - 2.8C @ stock | MSI 865 Neo2 | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | PowerColor Radeon 9800Pro
25) miraged - 2.4C @ 3.24 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston HyperX ddr400 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon X800GTO
26) tyrion4 - 2.8C @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon 9800Pro
27) momochi zabuza - 2.4C @ 3.0 | Abit IS7-E | Geil ddr400 512mb*2 | Galaxy Glacier 6800
28) kenling - 2.6C @ 3.2 | MSI 865PE Neo 2-V | Kingston ddr492 512mb*2 | Inno 3D 6600GT
29) almostthere - 2.8C @ 3.22 | Abit IS7 rev. 1.0 | 256Mb Infineon -5b*2 | GeForce FX5200
30) shinjite - 3.0C @ 3.3 ES | Abit IS7-E | TwinMos BH-5 ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI GeForce 4 MX440
31) fo33il - 2.4c @ stock /color] | [color=blue]Asus P4V8-X | Kingston DDR400 512MB | MSI nvidia Fx5200
32) merzchan - 2.4C /color] | [color=blue]Abit IS7-E | 1.5 GB Kingston HyperX DDR400 RAM | HIS Radeon 9600XT 128MB Turbo Edition

Pentium 4 'B' Northwood 533FSB


1) pengster - 2.4B @ 2.8 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | Triplex Radeon 9550
2) gmail - 2.66B @ 3.2 | Asus P4P800S-X | Kingston ddr333 512mb | Asus MX440
3) QD_buyer - 2.8B @ stock | Asus P4V8X-MX | Corsair XMS ddr400 512mb | Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro
4) wk1168 - 2.66B @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | Asus GeForce 3
5) kramuse - 2.4B @ stock | MSI 645E Max-U SiS645DX | Kingston ddr333 512mb | MSI FX5700
6) rg470 - 2.4B @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr333 512mb*2 | EVGA 7600GS
7) helangkawi - 2.4B @ 3.06 | Aopen AX4SPE-UN | Kingston ddr400 512mb+Apacer ddr400 256mb | GeCube Radeon 9550XT


Pentium 4 'A' Northwood/Willamette 400FSB

1) hyperyouth_firepower - 2.4A @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Air ddr333 256mb*2 | His Radeon X1300
2) polisdirajasarawak - 1.8A @ stock | Lite-On i845 | Advance Module ddr266 512mb | PowerColor Bravo Radeon 9600Pro
3) hihihehe - 2.8A @ stock | Acer E61ML | Apacer ddr400 512mb+Transcend ddr400 256 | MSI 6600

Pentium 4 'E' Prescott 800FSB HT

1) Mowgli - 3.0E @ 3.75 | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe | Team X-Treem TCCD ddr600 512mb*2 | XFX 6800NU
2) sHawTY - 3.0E @ 4.00 | Asus P4C800-E Deluxe | Kingston ddr534 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon X1300
3) hurricane21 - 3.0E @ stock | Abit AI7 | Kingston HyperX ddr400 256mb*2 | Sapphire Radeon X1600Pro
4) mulut99 - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4C800 Deluxe | Mushkin Enhance LVL2 ddr440 512mb*2 | nVidia 7800GS
5) ReaperOfSoul - 2.8E @ stock | Intel D865GBF | Kingston ddr440 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon 9550
6) tompok82 - 3.0E @ 3.75 | Asus P4C800 Deluxe | Kingston ddr500 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon X1300
7) barry80 - 2.8E @ stock | MSI 865PE PLS | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2+256mb*2 | PoweColor Radeon 9600Pro
8) xinghuei - 3.2E @ stock | DFI PT880ELF | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2 | ATI Radeon 9200SE
9) wk1168 - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI 6600 Diamond
10) SkyDriver - 2.8E @ stock | MSI PM8M-V | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | Colorful X700
11) apexi78 - 2.8E @ stock | Abit IC7-G | Corsair XL Pro ddr400 512mb*2 | nVidia 7800GS
12) kcng - 2.8E @ stock | Asus P4P8X | Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb*4 | Leadtek 6600GT
13) Hitman66 - 3.0E @ stock | Gigabyte GA-8I848P-G | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | nVidia 6800XT
14) max*lim - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Corsair ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI 6600GT
15) kcng - 2.8E @ stock | Asus P4P8-X | Corsair XMS ddr400 256mb*4 | Leadtek 6600GT
16) kenling - 3.4E @ stock | Abit IS7-E | Kingston D43 ddr400 512mb*2 | BFG 6800Ultra OC
17) alexandros_18th - P4 3.0E @ Stock | Asrock P4i65G | Apacer 512 + Kingston 256 DDR400 | Galaxy 7300GT

Pentium 4 'A' Prescott 533FSB

1) kabukiawie - 2.4A @ 3.0 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingmax ddr400 512mb*2 | MSI Radeon 9800Pro
2) Freak` - 2.4A @ stock | Abit IS7-E | Kingston ddr400 512mb+256mb | Asus Radeon 9200SE
3) iman_210 - 2.4A @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston Hynix ddr400 512mb*2 | XFX 6600GT
4) mr_habuk - 2.4A @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon 9550XT
5) nelza_ax - 2.4A @ 3.95 | Abit IS7-EG2 | Kingston DT-D43 ddr400 512mb | MSI 6200
6) ToGo - 2.4A @ 3.0 | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe | Corsair VS ddr400 512mb*2 | Asus Radeon 9600XT
7) swhung - 2.4A @ 2.73 | Gigabyte 8VM533M-RZ | Kingston ddr333 512mb+Hynix ddr266 128mb | PowerColor Radeon 9550
8) apek - 2.4A @ 2.73 | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston ddr400 512mb*2 | GeCube Radeon X1600Pro
9) apek - 2.8A @ stock | Intel D865PERL | Transcend ddr400 512mb*2 | Galaxy 6800NU
10) RokXIII - 2.4A @ 3.0 | MSI i865PE Neo-2 | Corsair ddr400 512mb | Sapphire Radeon 9550PE
11) GameSky - 2.4A @ stock | Asus P4V8X-X | Apacer ddr333 512mb+Kingston ddr333 512mb | ATI Radeon 9200SE

Pentium M Dothan CTP-479

1) cycquest - 750 1.86 @ stock | Asus P4P800-E Deluxe CTP-479 | Apacer ddr400 512mb | eVGA 6800Ultra
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post Jan 2 2007, 11:09 PM

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USEFUL INFO FOR P4 478 tongue.gif

Details of your P4 CPU
Check all the P4 siblings n details n type of the cpu at the link above smile.gif
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Let's compete against each other for our old skool P4 478 machine...our machine can't compare wif those X2, FX, C2D.... sweat.gif

P4 478 HALL OF FAME [TOP 20]

SUPER PI 1M
01. nelza_ax - 2.4 @ 4.05 - 225.5mhz @ 2.5-3-3-7 - 35.641s
02. siauann - 2.8 @ 3.78 - 270.2mhz @ 2.5-3-3-6 - 36.64s
03. tyrion4 - 2.8 @ 3.78 - 216.4mhz @ 2.5-4-4-8 - 39.641s
04. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68 - 230.3mhz @ 3-4-4-8 - 39.873s
05. KahLooN - 2.6 @ 3.38 - 225mhz @ 2-3-3-5 - 39.953s
06. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23 - 168mhz @ 2-3-3-5 - 41.938s
07. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02 - 168mhz @ 2-3-3-5 - 46.016s

. NORTHWOOD
. PRESSCOTT


SiSANDRA LITE 2007
. PROCESSOR ARITHMETIC
01. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68 - 9477
02. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23 - 7262
03. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02 - 6780

. MEMORY BANDWIDTH
01. raymond5105 - 3.2 @ 3.68 @ 230mhz @ 3-4-4-8 - 5525
02. RokXIII - 2.4 @ 3.23 @ @ 225mhz @ 2-3-3-5 - 4132
03. kabukiawie - 2.4 @ 3.02 @ @ 168mhz @ 2-3-3-5 - 4052
. NORTHWOOD
. PRESSCOTT
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again and again..............
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post Jan 2 2007, 11:12 PM

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i think can start the discussion edi.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 2 2007, 11:25 PM

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Ceh my name not in the list. Ptuik
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post Jan 2 2007, 11:28 PM

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juz want to share mine...
old skul p4..now still using it icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 2 2007, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 2 2007, 11:25 PM)
Ceh my name not in the list. Ptuik
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waaaa..dun be angry..juz handled this thread...ask siauann lar.. cry.gif
btw can u gimme ur spec plz.. icon_rolleyes.gif
will update later..

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 2 2007, 11:25 PM)
Ceh my name not in the list. Ptuik
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Wakakaka...
How come not in the list? laugh.gif

Maybe because u didn't post you're spec meh? laugh.gif

Seriously, that's the funniest post i've seen this week... laugh.gif

QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:28 PM)
juz want to share mine...
old skul p4..now still using it  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Man, jelesnya aku...
Kalau la aku ada keberanian macam ko, aku nak gak lapping IHS processor Pentium D 930 aku, tapi tak berani, takut nanti tak rata la, takut nanti ada static shock la... sweat.gif

Takut beb... sweat.gif

Tapi aku seriously nak buat camtu, nak gak turun 1 - 2 degress sebab lapping IHS processor aku, sebab tgk IHS processor aku kasar gila... rclxub.gif

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wow... lapped P4!

nice...


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post Jan 2 2007, 11:36 PM

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Got edi leh boss, ask irangan. He saw my first post in the old thread. Anyway refresher course

Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8C@3.22Ghz
Abit IS7 rev. 1.0
2*256Mb Infineon -5b
GeForce FX5200

linked for justice: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/312068/+2040

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 2 2007, 11:29 PM)


Man, jelesnya aku...
Kalau la aku ada keberanian macam ko, aku nak gak lapping IHS processor Pentium D 930 aku, tapi tak berani, takut nanti tak rata la, takut nanti ada static shock la... sweat.gif

Takut beb... sweat.gif

Tapi aku seriously nak buat camtu, nak gak turun 1 - 2 degress sebab lapping IHS processor aku, sebab tgk IHS processor aku kasar gila... rclxub.gif
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act, the temp, dun hav much different than before.. juz a lil bit..around 2-3 degree ony maa.. not worth for you to do it.. too risky..lain la klu kaya sgt..sweat.gif
if you dun dare then...jangan buat.. tongue.gif
pentium D wooo.. not old skul p4..
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nelza ur da man icon_rolleyes.gif
thx for continuing the spirit of P4 478 brows.gif
well..its up tp u to handle it now... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 2 2007, 11:36 PM)
Got edi leh boss, ask irangan. He saw my first post in the old thread. Anyway refresher course

Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8C@3.22Ghz
Abit IS7 rev. 1.0
2*256Mb Infineon -5b
GeForce FX5200

linked for justice: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/312068/+2040
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ic ic..everything update edi....
btw, i dun thing 3.22 is the max rite? wat a nice moob you hav there thumbup.gif


QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 2 2007, 11:44 PM)
nelza ur da man  icon_rolleyes.gif
thx for continuing the spirit of P4 478 brows.gif
well..its up tp u to handle it now... biggrin.gif
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kinda hard oso to handle.. cry.gif
but i'll try ma best.. blush.gif

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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:37 PM)
act, the temp, dun hav much different than before.. juz a lil bit..around 2-3 degree ony maa.. not worth for you to do it.. too risky..lain la klu kaya sgt..sweat.gif
if you dun dare then...jangan buat.. tongue.gif
pentium D wooo.. not old skul p4..
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Weh, 2-3 degress differences is not something that we should take lightly...
2-3degress dude!!!

I also want one!!! drool.gif

But just like what you've said earlier, i'm so afraid to do it...
Benda paling aku takut, takut takut kalau dah lepas lap, makin tak rata ada la... sweat.gif

Ehh siauann, since the V3 is already up and running, i think you should close V2 liao... laugh.gif

V3, this proves that Intel Pentium socket 478 processors are still hot to us, not something that can be forgotten easily... smile.gif
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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 2 2007, 11:47 PM)
ic ic..everything update edi....
btw, i dun thing 3.22 is the max rite? wat a nice moob you hav there  thumbup.gif
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Lazy to take back my barang otherwise I'd try summore but limiting me is the RAM and the PSU. Caplang -5b's and Powerlogic 600W PSU. Not stable beyond that speed. 3.6Ghz can POST but unbootable
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 2 2007, 11:49 PM)
Weh, 2-3 degress differences is not something that we should take lightly...
2-3degress dude!!!

I also want one!!! drool.gif

But just like what you've said earlier, i'm so afraid to do it...
Benda paling aku takut, takut takut kalau dah lepas lap, makin tak rata ada la... sweat.gif

Ehh siauann, since the V3 is already up and running, i think you should close V2 liao... laugh.gif

V3, this proves that Intel Pentium socket 478 processors are still hot to us, not something that can be forgotten easily... smile.gif
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y dun you find a faulty proc and practice 1st? brows.gif
safety 1st tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 2 2007, 11:49 PM)
Weh, 2-3 degress differences is not something that we should take lightly...
2-3degress dude!!!

I also want one!!! drool.gif

But just like what you've said earlier, i'm so afraid to do it...
Benda paling aku takut, takut takut kalau dah lepas lap, makin tak rata ada la... sweat.gif

Ehh siauann, since the V3 is already up and running, i think you should close V2 liao... laugh.gif

V3, this proves that Intel Pentium socket 478 processors are still hot to us, not something that can be forgotten easily... smile.gif
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okok..time to shut it down... tongue.gif
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Update mine, processor is 3Ghz HT ES, running at 3.3Ghz now smile.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 3 2007, 01:40 AM)
Update mine, processor is 3Ghz HT ES, running at 3.3Ghz now  smile.gif
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still using BH5?mind to post some sperPI result? blush.gif

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aiyark..forgot edy..need to go back to my hometown for 2 weeks during my holiday..
no internet connection there.. goin to cc is sux!!.. but i'll update dis thread slowly..
sorry for that.. notworthy.gif


keep on rockin soc 478 user!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 3 2007, 04:11 AM)
still using BH5?mind to post some sperPI result? blush.gif
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Actually I used to use BH-5s, now no more, sold it off already
Looking for D43s now~~

Edit : My twinmos is not BH-5 chips, normal Value RAMs (using 5:4 ratio) and my GFX has been changed to Nvidia FX 5900XT (forgot to update)
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So fast comes to V3 already. thumbup.gif shinjite,last time you use BH5 how far can you your RAM goes?
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post Jan 3 2007, 01:03 PM

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hoho, V3 already. s478 still rock!! thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 3 2007, 08:35 AM)
So fast comes to V3 already. thumbup.gif shinjite,last time you use BH5 how far can you your RAM goes?
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250Mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.3V smile.gif
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250Mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.3V smile.gif
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You gto tried to go higher or not?You were using DDR booster on your motherboard?
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Wow, already V3?
S478 still goin strong as ever, bravo. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 3 2007, 02:31 PM)
You gto tried to go higher or not?You were using DDR booster on your motherboard?
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didn't go higher because need a lot of Vdimm, around 3.6V to reach 265Mhz FSB
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good work nezla thumbup.gif oh yeah my specs aint updated..mind to change my GC to 6800GS and the speed to 2.7ghz?thanx biggrin.gif
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yup, mine need to update as well, no more 9800 pro, now using geForce 3 Ti 200 cry.gif

i will try to push till highest using 4:5 divider and test superPI it. hehe, hope can get better result.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 3 2007, 10:41 PM)
yup, mine need to update as well, no more 9800 pro, now using geForce 3 Ti 200 cry.gif

i will try to push till highest using 4:5 divider and test superPI it. hehe, hope can get  better result.
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i know, but not stable at 170fsb++, highest can go to 180++. Too bad, the steping not good at oc. If get same steping like nelza's D1 steping, at least can pump till 3.5GHz at stock.

i try 188fsb just now, heres the screenchots
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my rig

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HIS ATI Radeon 9600XT
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full load temp 69c

cant get 39s in superpi using vista



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I wonder why your Vcore is so high reported from CPUZ
Inaccurate reporting?
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lol
didnt notice that...
i think inaccurate reporting
its around 1.50 in xp

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a bit weird that the vcore is high if that is default vcore. my vcore report higher i put default. i set 1.425v, it come out 1.488v. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 4 2007, 09:52 AM)
a bit weird that the vcore is high if that is default vcore. my vcore report higher i put default. i set 1.425v, it come out 1.488v. sweat.gif
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probably your PSU cant maintain the proper voltage. sometime if u using normal PSU, the voltage will flatuate abit.

PeowYong, i think your cpu temp is abit too high for Ultra120. it is better for you to check the heatsink contact with your processor. with ultra 120 shouldnt reach 69'c
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 4 2007, 09:52 AM)
a bit weird that the vcore is high if that is default vcore. my vcore report higher i put default. i set 1.425v, it come out 1.488v. sweat.gif
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That's normal, if you want to set it at 1.425V, you have to set it lower than what you've set in the bios, do it times & times again until the cpuz reports that the Vcore is true 1.425V [wait for 5minutes for the Vcore to be stable]

This doesn't happen to me while i'm using my Pentium 4 3.0E [Clocked at 4GHz] running on ASUS P4C800 E Deluxe thumbup.gif

The best motherboard i've ever had for an Intel Pentium 4 Socket 478 processors thumbup.gif
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juz want to share mine...
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 3 2007, 11:11 PM)
i know, but not stable at 170fsb++, highest can go to 180++. Too bad, the steping not good at oc. If get same steping like nelza's D1 steping, at least can pump till 3.5GHz at stock.

i try 188fsb just now, heres the screenchots
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at last, 40sec.

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QUOTE(PeowYong @ Jan 4 2007, 02:20 AM)
my rig

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Pentium 4 2.8E@ 3.4GHz
Thermalright Ultra-120 paired with Thermaltake 120mm fan @ 2400rpm
ABIT IC7
2x Kingston d43 DDR400 @ 2.5 3 3 6
HIS ATI Radeon 9600XT
Powerlogic Atrix 500T

full load temp 69c

cant get 39s in superpi using vista
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I found that A version proc is better in Super PI 1M compare to the E version.A version is slighly slower than the E version though.
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@shawty
haha......by default vcore, cpuz reads 1.4v+- sweat.gif i just maintain the vcore below 1.5v coz i use stock cooler.

i also wish to have that god mobo drool.gif

wao, you now bulk TR product, quite tempted to Ultra-90 drool.gif....haha...but pocket dry dry cry.gif

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 4 2007, 02:02 PM)
I found that A version proc is better in Super PI 1M compare to the E version.A version is slighly slower than the E version though.
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of coz slower as the fsb is lower and lack of HT, E version is 800fsb, A version is 533fsb non HT. at the same speed there is no way that A version will outperform E version in most case. wink.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 4 2007, 03:36 PM)
of coz slower as the fsb is lower and lack of HT, E version is 800fsb, A version is 533fsb non HT. at the same speed there is no way that A version will outperform E version in most case. wink.gif
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But the difference is the A version is slightly faster than the E version although the E version has higher clock speed and using 1:1 divider.A version is using 5:4 divider so resulting the RAM running at lower speed. You can refer the post screens on page 2.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 4 2007, 03:17 PM)
@shawty
haha......by default vcore, cpuz reads 1.4v+- sweat.gif i just maintain the vcore below 1.5v coz i use stock cooler.

i also wish to have that god mobo drool.gif

wao, you now bulk TR product, quite tempted to Ultra-90 drool.gif....haha...but pocket dry dry cry.gif
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Seriously, 1.488Volts can kill you're processor anytime... laugh.gif
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similiar with a Northwood going at 1.9V smile.gif

All those using dry ice or liquid nitrogen went over 2V too smile.gif

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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 4 2007, 11:13 AM)
PeowYong, i think your cpu temp is abit too high for Ultra120. it is better for you to check the heatsink contact with your processor. with ultra 120 shouldnt reach 69'c
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i also think so... its just few c lower than my previous cooler,
will try mounting it again after my exam

cant get less than 41s in superpi in vista which i can get it in xp

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woot shawty bulking TR hsf thumbup.gif eh can the HR01 be used with s478?might get from u that or ultra90 laugh.gif

btw for me running at 2.7ghz is it advisable if i dont pump up the voltage?
holy sh- my volts are fluctuating like hell doh.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 4 2007, 09:08 PM)
woot shawty bulking TR hsf thumbup.gif eh can the HR01 be used with s478?might get from u that or ultra90 laugh.gif

btw for me running at 2.7ghz is it advisable if i dont pump up the voltage?
holy sh- my volts are fluctuating like hell doh.gif
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if your volts are flunctuating, its better to raise it a bit in the BIOS
You can calculate ler by seeing how low it will flunctuate on load from idle
Then u set it in BIOS
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 4 2007, 05:37 PM)
But the difference is the A version is slightly faster than the E version although the E version has higher clock speed and using 1:1 divider.A version is using 5:4 divider so resulting the RAM running at lower speed. You can refer the post screens on page 2.
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Ops...i didnt notice that. tongue.gif But i notice that i running 4:5 divider it show a little boost than 1:1. maybe i try it later. Dunno how far my ram can go....sad.gif

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 4 2007, 06:07 PM)
Seriously, 1.488Volts can kill you're processor anytime... laugh.gif
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i know, anything that obove default may having the risk. smile.gif

is the ultra come with 2 version? i read from review, there are for amd and intel ultra90. hmm.....

QUOTE(PeowYong @ Jan 4 2007, 07:36 PM)
i also think so... its just few c lower than my previous cooler,
will try mounting it again after my exam

cant get less than 41s in superpi in vista which i can get it in xp

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maybe like what irangan said, reinstall it and try to see any changes. is it vista is a bit resource hungry??

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hey guys..i stil got no time to test out my IC7 MAX 3 sweat.gif its been laying in my room for so long rclxub.gif
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just tested my new ram. not bad at all. can reach 229.5FSB smile.gif

p.s. anyone want to purchase 4 pieces of 512mb KVR? hehe..
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i remember last time your result is around 226fsb 1:1, the new ram only a bit better than your previous ram, ofcoz now you are running 2GB ram. Ever try to push 5:4 on the cpu? maybe it can break trough 4GHz

@siauann
haha, let me try lo laugh.gif kidding
you want to keep it as antique in your room and let the legendary mobo collect dust? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 5 2007, 04:00 AM)
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just tested my new ram. not bad at all. can reach 229.5FSB smile.gif

p.s. anyone want to purchase 4 pieces of 512mb KVR? hehe..
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You RAM can go up to 230MHz or not? biggrin.gif Seems like your dream already come true. > 3.8GHz already.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 5 2007, 08:51 AM)
i remember last time your result is around 226fsb 1:1, the new ram only a bit better than your previous ram, ofcoz now you are running 2GB ram. Ever try to push 5:4 on the cpu? maybe it can break trough 4GHz

@siauann
haha, let me try lo laugh.gif kidding
you want to keep it as antique in your room and let the legendary mobo collect dust? tongue.gif
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haha..u wan try ka? i sell u lor... tongue.gif
offer me ur price lar..i sell u cheap cheap...thn u got the legendary board n top the results here brows.gif
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 5 2007, 10:10 AM)
haha..u wan try ka? i sell u lor... tongue.gif
offer me ur price lar..i sell u cheap cheap...thn u got the legendary board n top the results here brows.gif
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Wah siauann,your board still haven't tested out ? laugh.gif Get C2D and forget the legendary board already? tongue.gif You don't have proc and RAM to test out is it?I think many of us here are willing to try up for you. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 5 2007, 08:51 AM)
i remember last time your result is around 226fsb 1:1, the new ram only a bit better than your previous ram, ofcoz now you are running 2GB ram. Ever try to push 5:4 on the cpu? maybe it can break trough 4GHz

@siauann
haha, let me try lo laugh.gif kidding
you want to keep it as antique in your room and let the legendary mobo collect dust? tongue.gif
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ya i noticed that.. but at least this ram can break the 226FSB barrier. my old ram cant even break 228fsb with 5:4 divider.

no time to test that yet. sad.gif

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 5 2007, 09:45 AM)
You RAM can go up to 230MHz or not? biggrin.gif  Seems like your dream already come true. > 3.8GHz already.
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ya.... at least i know my stupid processor can break the 3.8ghz barrier. my ram ar... my comp cant go in windows if the FSB 230 1:1 divider. so either my ram cant reach 230 or my processor already reach its limit.

QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 5 2007, 10:10 AM)
haha..u wan try ka? i sell u lor... tongue.gif
offer me ur price lar..i sell u cheap cheap...thn u got the legendary board n top the results here brows.gif
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selling? i think my friend will be interested. btw how to define cheap smile.gif


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@ irangan,your proc now running at 3.9GHz sure very very shock in gaming one. thumbup.gif Hehe,won't feel the proc lagging at all.

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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 5 2007, 11:31 AM)
no time to test that yet. sad.gif
ya.... at least i know my stupid processor can break the 3.8ghz barrier. my ram ar... my comp cant go in windows if the FSB 230 1:1 divider. so either my ram cant reach 230 or my processor already reach its limit.
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if its CE-5, your RAM still can go higher

At 230Mhz FSB 1:1, Windows can't boot, refer below

1) High chances your CPU hit wall, raise Vcore. Above 1.6V still okay 1, just don't go above 1.7v

2) Whats your Vdimm? Most CE-5 chips max out at 2.7v, increase also no gain at all

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hmm......if loosen the timing, i think it will get higher.

check this out smile.gif
http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t22139.html

the average oc result for Infineon CE-5\6
2.0-3-2-7-1T - 200-220Mhz
2.5-3-2-7-1T - 240-260Mhz
3.0-3-2-7-1T - 260-265Mhz
3.0-3-2-8-1T - 265-300Mhz

seem that loosen the timing may help to boost the speed. icon_rolleyes.gif

if can get 250fsb 1:1 drool.gif

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 5 2007, 12:02 PM)
@ irangan,your proc now running at 3.9GHz sure very very shock in gaming one. thumbup.gif Hehe,won't feel the proc lagging at all.
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yeah... no lag at all.. haha..

QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 5 2007, 02:31 PM)
if its CE-5, your RAM still can go higher

At 230Mhz FSB 1:1, Windows can't boot, refer below

1) High chances your CPU hit wall, raise Vcore. Above 1.6V still okay 1, just don't go above 1.7v

2) Whats your Vdimm? Most CE-5 chips max out at 2.7v, increase also no gain at all
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most probably my processor hit the wall already. 1.6v is the max i can go with my mobo. Vdimm is at 2.7v.

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 5 2007, 05:23 PM)
hmm......if loosen the timing, i think it will get higher.

check this out smile.gif
http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t22139.html

the average oc result for Infineon CE-5\6
2.0-3-2-7-1T - 200-220Mhz
2.5-3-2-7-1T - 240-260Mhz
3.0-3-2-7-1T - 260-265Mhz
3.0-3-2-8-1T - 265-300Mhz

seem that loosen the timing may help to boost the speed. icon_rolleyes.gif

if can get 250fsb 1:1 drool.gif
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Thanks for the info.


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vdimm=2.7v
timing= 2-3-3-5

Super PI=38.391 sec

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 5 2007, 11:04 AM)
Wah siauann,your board still haven't tested out ? laugh.gif Get C2D and forget the legendary board already? tongue.gif You don't have proc and RAM to test out is it?I think many of us here are willing to try up for you. biggrin.gif
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haha...yeah..so sad...i got no time recently for pc..even my C2D oso dun have the extreme mood to oc like last time my P4 478 tongue.gif


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selling? i think my friend will be interested. btw how to define cheap smile.gif
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how i define cheap? tongue.gif im not using it anymore..tat's y selling cheap tongue.gif
n how much do u thk this board gonna be? rm150 do u thk its cheap enuf for tis good board? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 4 2007, 09:18 PM)
if your volts are flunctuating, its better to raise it a bit in the BIOS
You can calculate ler by seeing how low it will flunctuate on load from idle
Then u set it in BIOS
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yeah my volts are fluctuating like mad doh.gif i raised my vcore from the stock of 1.525v to 1.55v already..and its changing from 1.568-1.616v shakehead.gif damn my lousy psu sad.gif

erm btw is it normal for the mhz to fluctuate also?cuz i've set my fsb to 150 which should be 2700mhz but when i open cpuz its like sometimes 2760mhz sometimes 2700mhz sweat.gif
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 5 2007, 06:16 PM)
haha...yeah..so sad...i got no time recently for pc..even my C2D oso dun have the extreme mood to oc like last time my P4 478  tongue.gif
how i define cheap?  tongue.gif im not using it anymore..tat's y selling cheap  tongue.gif
n how much do u thk this board gonna be? rm150 do u thk its cheap enuf for tis good board?  rolleyes.gif
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i will inform my friend about this... RM150 is cheap smile.gif

QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 5 2007, 06:59 PM)
yeah my volts are fluctuating like mad doh.gif i raised my vcore from the stock of 1.525v to 1.55v already..and its changing from 1.568-1.616v shakehead.gif damn my lousy psu sad.gif

erm btw is it normal for the mhz to fluctuate also?cuz i've set my fsb to 150 which should be 2700mhz but when i open cpuz its like sometimes 2760mhz sometimes 2700mhz sweat.gif
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your vcore flatuate is due to your PSU. get a better one la. Acbel is cheap and nice smile.gif

yes, cpu speed do flatuate but not so serious like yours. your mhz faltuate that much is directly due to your PSU and that is not good for your comp smile.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 5 2007, 05:29 PM)
yeah... no lag at all.. haha..
most probably my processor hit the wall already. 1.6v is the max i can go with my mobo. Vdimm is at 2.7v.
Thanks for the info.
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vdimm=2.7v
timing= 2-3-3-5

Super PI=38.391 sec
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Wao, that is sweet. smile.gif i notice your performance mode is disabled, have you try to enable it?? It may boost a bit. smile.gif


QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 5 2007, 06:16 PM)
haha...yeah..so sad...i got no time recently for pc..even my C2D oso dun have the extreme mood to oc like last time my P4 478  tongue.gif
how i define cheap?  tongue.gif im not using it anymore..tat's y selling cheap  tongue.gif
n how much do u thk this board gonna be? rm150 do u thk its cheap enuf for tis good board?  rolleyes.gif
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150?? its cheap. drool.gif


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siauann you MAX 3 only selling for RM150 ? That's preety cheap . thumbup.gif irangan, seeing your RAM running with 2.0 latency,the performance is improved man. drool.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 5 2007, 08:02 PM)
i will inform my friend about this... RM150 is cheap smile.gif
your vcore flatuate is due to your PSU. get a better one la. Acbel is cheap and nice smile.gif

yes, cpu speed do flatuate but not so serious like yours. your mhz faltuate that much is directly due to your PSU and that is not good for your comp smile.gif
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yeah i actually already have a enermax fma purepower psu..just that it's in the process of RMA now laugh.gif now no choice have to use this capalang powerlogic psu sleep.gif

so in short if the volts or cpu speed fluctuates too much it'll damage the proc/mobo? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 5 2007, 06:23 PM)
hmm......if loosen the timing, i think it will get higher.

check this out smile.gif
http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t22139.html

the average oc result for Infineon CE-5\6
2.0-3-2-7-1T - 200-220Mhz
2.5-3-2-7-1T - 240-260Mhz
3.0-3-2-7-1T - 260-265Mhz
3.0-3-2-8-1T - 265-300Mhz

seem that loosen the timing may help to boost the speed. icon_rolleyes.gif

if can get 250fsb 1:1 drool.gif
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i think intel system can't achive that! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 5 2007, 06:59 PM)
yeah my volts are fluctuating like mad doh.gif i raised my vcore from the stock of 1.525v to 1.55v already..and its changing from 1.568-1.616v shakehead.gif damn my lousy psu sad.gif

erm btw is it normal for the mhz to fluctuate also?cuz i've set my fsb to 150 which should be 2700mhz but when i open cpuz its like sometimes 2760mhz sometimes 2700mhz sweat.gif
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ASUS board tend to overvolt a bit during idle. Its normal throughtout my experience. However for my Abit board, terbalik, voltage goes down like hell >.>"
As for your Mhz a bit higher than expected, it is due to the spread spectrum. Normally it is recommended to disable it if OC but if its stable then let it be.


QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 5 2007, 08:02 PM)
your vcore flatuate is due to your PSU. get a better one la. Acbel is cheap and nice smile.gif

yes, cpu speed do flatuate but not so serious like yours. your mhz faltuate that much is directly due to your PSU and that is not good for your comp smile.gif
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2 factors causes flunctuations, PSU itself and the motherboard. As for my case, its the mobo, if I get even a 500W also the same thing unless I do a droop mode which I dunno how to do >.>"


QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Jan 5 2007, 10:34 PM)
is the OC result for AMD system?
i think intel system can't achive that! hmm.gif
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Even some TCCD got 300Mhz FSB 1:1 on Intel systems but sadly its quite picky

But mostly all rams works well with AMD, I dunno why

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 5 2007, 11:06 PM)
ASUS board tend to overvolt a bit during idle. Its normal throughtout my experience. However for my Abit board, terbalik, voltage goes down like hell >.>"
As for your Mhz a bit higher than expected, it is due to the spread spectrum. Normally it is recommended to disable it if OC but if its stable then let it be.
2 factors causes flunctuations, PSU itself and the motherboard. As for my case, its the mobo, if I get even a 500W also the same thing unless I do a droop mode which I dunno how to do >.>"
You won't know unless you try smile.gif
Even some TCCD got 300Mhz FSB 1:1 on Intel systems but sadly its quite picky

But mostly all rams works well with AMD, I dunno why
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oh okay..yeah i remembered last time i disabled my spread spectrum on my msi board..forgotten what it does edi laugh.gif so should i disable it now?wont affect much right unsure.gif
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hehe..cheap sales...mega sales... tongue.gif
i need to test the board 1st tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 5 2007, 11:22 PM)
oh okay..yeah i remembered last time i disabled my spread spectrum on my msi board..forgotten what it does edi laugh.gif so should i disable it now?wont affect much right unsure.gif
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Won't effect much
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 5 2007, 11:06 PM)
ASUS board tend to overvolt a bit during idle. Its normal throughtout my experience. However for my Abit board, terbalik, voltage goes down like hell >.>"
As for your Mhz a bit higher than expected, it is due to the spread spectrum. Normally it is recommended to disable it if OC but if its stable then let it be.
2 factors causes flunctuations, PSU itself and the motherboard. As for my case, its the mobo, if I get even a 500W also the same thing unless I do a droop mode which I dunno how to do >.>"
You won't know unless you try smile.gif
Even some TCCD got 300Mhz FSB 1:1 on Intel systems but sadly its quite picky

But mostly all rams works well with AMD, I dunno why
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like what you said, asus mobo really overvolt when idle. when load, it drop back. hmm......

enable and disable spread spectrum not much different to me. i disabled it already.

even though the result is for amd, i think the outcome is almost the same. loosen the timing seems help to push higher, maybe irangan's ce-5 can go 250 at c2.5. now have good ram in hand, it better that find the max fsb 1st instead of tighten the timing. after reach there, tighten the timing to squeeze more. just my 2 cents. icon_rolleyes.gif
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the thing is whether irangan's CPU can go or not only. HIs Vcore max at 1.6v which is a limitation. Vdimm no problems already at 2.7V
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 3 2007, 08:00 AM)
Actually I used to use BH-5s, now no more, sold it off already
Looking for D43s now~~

Edit : My twinmos is not BH-5 chips, normal Value RAMs (using 5:4 ratio) and my GFX has been changed to Nvidia FX 5900XT (forgot to update)
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So fast comes to V3 already. thumbup.gif shinjite,last time you use BH5 how far can you your RAM goes?
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yeah..wonder how fast it is...250mhz 2-2-2-5 drool.gif
post some super PI result lar... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 6 2007, 12:34 PM)
the thing is whether irangan's CPU can go or not only. HIs Vcore max at 1.6v which is a limitation. Vdimm no problems already at 2.7V
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seems his cpu like stuck at 3.9GHz, if can push till 4GHz++ sure rocks. At 250fsb 1:1 sure can get 36s or less in super PI 1m. drool.gif cant wait for his result. smile.gif


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last time hows the temp for idle and load on HFS last time?? i afraid the cpu fried if push to high. planning to add more vcore. hehe.....
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 5 2007, 11:56 PM)
hehe..cheap sales...mega sales... tongue.gif
i need to test the board 1st  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 6 2007, 02:02 PM)
seems his cpu like stuck at 3.9GHz, if can push till 4GHz++ sure rocks. At 250fsb 1:1 sure can get 36s or less in super PI 1m. drool.gif cant wait for his result. smile.gif
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last time hows the temp for idle and load on HFS last time?? i afraid the cpu fried if push to high. planning to add more vcore. hehe.....
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yeah..wonder how fast it is...250mhz 2-2-2-5  drool.gif
post some super PI result lar... icon_idea.gif
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pm me if you wan to sell it  blush.gif
erm..dun remember ar..but not much different when using hsf and WC..
i'm still 0n ma holiday,neway  i'll find the screenie later.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 6 2007, 02:41 PM)
pm me if you wan to sell it  blush.gif
erm..dun remember ar..but not much different when using hsf and WC..
i'm still 0n ma holiday,neway  i'll find the screenie later.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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so far i got one pm frm user here tongue.gif
stil hvnt test it out yet..
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i already tested..... My ram and processor cannot go beyond 230FSB, no matter what timing i set. sad.gif

probably my low vcore is the main problem like mentioned by shinjite.

so currently 225FSB with 2-3-3-5 is the best i can get and maintained.
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havent add me since v1.. haha! this is the third time i post my spec.. wee still a s478 supporter...


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another year for it support, then time to change.. go go go!
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 7 2007, 02:09 AM)
i already tested..... My ram and processor cannot go beyond 230FSB, no matter what timing i set. sad.gif

probably my low vcore is the main problem like mentioned by shinjite.

so currently 225FSB with 2-3-3-5 is the best i can get and maintained.
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too bad it cant push any higher, just grap siauann's max3 and try it out. thumbup.gif

anyway, you are now having a very nice rig that can get 38s 1m superPI. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 7 2007, 11:17 AM)
too bad it cant push any higher, just grap siauann's max3 and try it out. thumbup.gif

anyway, you are now having a very nice rig that can get 38s 1m superPI. icon_rolleyes.gif
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my friend wishes to purchase the board but i not sure whether have he ask siauann or not. actually, i am very interested too but my gf is staring me with those very cold eyesight. so you know lo. hehe... *bought too many stuffs these few months.

so i think i had to satisfy for what i have now. hehe. what to do.


nelza_ax, add me to the list.
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Hmmm....I think the last thing you can do it tighten up your ram timings, go to 2-3-2-5 and see instead of 2-3-3-5 tongue.gif
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Hmmm....I think the last thing you can do it tighten up your ram timings, go to 2-3-2-5 and see instead of 2-3-3-5 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 6 2007, 12:15 AM)
Won't effect much
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 6 2007, 09:53 AM)
like what you said, asus mobo really overvolt when idle. when load, it drop back. hmm......

enable and disable spread spectrum not much different to me. i disabled it already.

even though the result is for amd, i think the outcome is almost the same. loosen the timing seems help to push higher, maybe irangan's ce-5 can go 250 at c2.5. now have good ram in hand, it better that find the max fsb 1st instead of tighten the  timing. after reach there, tighten the timing to squeeze more. just my 2 cents. icon_rolleyes.gif
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okay later i'll disable it smile.gif just tightened my ram timings from 2.5-3-3-6 to 2-3-3-6 but not much difference laugh.gif should i up my vdimm slightly? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 7 2007, 05:40 PM)
okay later i'll disable it  smile.gif just tightened my ram timings from 2.5-3-3-6 to 2-3-3-6 but not much difference  laugh.gif should i up my vdimm slightly? unsure.gif
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2-3-3-6 is quite tight already, have you try superPI??
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@irangan
i thk u shd start playing wif ram timing since u knw ur proc limit liao smile.gif
btw ur board oso 875 chipset mah...not a bad one i thk tongue.gif
anyway nice ram u have there rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 7 2007, 11:25 PM)
@irangan
i thk u shd start playing wif ram timing since u knw ur proc limit liao  smile.gif
btw ur board oso 875 chipset mah...not a bad one i thk  tongue.gif
anyway nice ram u have there  rclxms.gif
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did that... the best i can get is from 225FSB, 3 4 4 8 to 225FSB, 2 3 3 5. i can go 225FSB 2 3 2 5 but sometime cant boot and sometime can. not sure why.

though, my mobo is 875P but no match in term of OC if compare to your IC7 Max. sigh. BUT i have 6 ram slots! hehe

about the ram, yes it is a very nice ram especially with its very cheap price.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 8 2007, 01:03 AM)
did that... the best i can get is from 225FSB, 3 4 4 8 to 225FSB, 2 3 3 5. i can go 225FSB 2 3 2 5 but sometime cant boot and sometime can. not sure why.

though, my mobo is 875P but no match in term of OC if compare to your IC7 Max. sigh. BUT i have 6 ram slots! hehe

about the ram, yes it is a very nice ram especially with its very cheap price.
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@irangan
the Gigabyte mobo u have there with 6 ram slot is a gimmic by gigabyte.
u won't used up that much of slot either.
but the mobo is really a great one for i875 chipset mobo series! no doubt of it. tongue.gif
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Any Intel i848P chipset users here? Want to ask, what're the highest supported P4? P4 EE with HT?
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i think you can check your mobo website for details. Are you wanna upgrade your CPU??


QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 8 2007, 12:03 AM)
did that... the best i can get is from 225FSB, 3 4 4 8 to 225FSB, 2 3 3 5. i can go 225FSB 2 3 2 5 but sometime cant boot and sometime can. not sure why.

though, my mobo is 875P but no match in term of OC if compare to your IC7 Max. sigh. BUT i have 6 ram slots! hehe

about the ram, yes it is a very nice ram especially with its very cheap price.
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hoho, dump all you ram 2*1GB, 4*512MB, then you have 4GB of ram, no sweat..... laugh.gif

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I wanna sign up for the list, my rig:

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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 8 2007, 12:03 AM)
did that... the best i can get is from 225FSB, 3 4 4 8 to 225FSB, 2 3 3 5. i can go 225FSB 2 3 2 5 but sometime cant boot and sometime can. not sure why.

though, my mobo is 875P but no match in term of OC if compare to your IC7 Max. sigh. BUT i have 6 ram slots! hehe

about the ram, yes it is a very nice ram especially with its very cheap price.
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Wah your RAM can go with 2-3-3-5 timing,that's very nice.I think your RAM maybe can't get the 2-3-2-5 as the RAM's limitation or the chipset's limitation.
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@irangan
the Gigabyte mobo u have there with 6 ram slot is a gimmic by gigabyte.
u won't used up that much of slot either.
but the mobo is really a great one for i875 chipset mobo series! no doubt of it.  tongue.gif
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If its a great one, its VCore limit would not be 1.6V only smile.gif
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Jan 8 2007, 12:56 AM)
@irangan
the Gigabyte mobo u have there with 6 ram slot is a gimmic by gigabyte.
u won't used up that much of slot either.
but the mobo is really a great one for i875 chipset mobo series! no doubt of it.  tongue.gif
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very true... i875P chipset only can support 4 pieces of ram, anything more than that is considered OC your mobo. it is written in the manual. haha..

last time i bought this mobo is due to its wide range goodies that come with its and of course the gimmic of 6 ram slots. haha.

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 8 2007, 08:29 AM)
i think you can check your mobo website for details. Are you wanna upgrade your CPU??
hoho, dump all you ram 2*1GB, 4*512MB, then you have 4GB of ram, no sweat..... laugh.gif
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i think 2 gig of ram is good for now and coming 1 year. that's why i am selling off my old ram. no use anymore.

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 8 2007, 09:33 AM)
Wah your RAM can go with 2-3-3-5 timing,that's very nice.I think your RAM maybe can't get the 2-3-2-5 as the RAM's limitation or the chipset's limitation.
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ya, it is a very good ram with cheap price. i think is my mobo that restricting the ram. most of the buyer of the ram running at 2 3 2 5.

QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 8 2007, 10:46 AM)
If its a great one, its VCore limit would not be 1.6V only smile.gif
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IC-7 Max famous for its OC
Asus (forgot the name) famous for its performance
and my mobo famous for its wide range of function and stablity. hehe
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 8 2007, 11:20 AM)

ya, it is a very good ram with cheap price. i think is my mobo that restricting the ram. most of the buyer of the ram running at 2 3 2 5.

IC-7 Max famous for its OC
Asus (forgot the name) famous for its performance
and my mobo famous for its wide range of function and stablity. hehe
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if not wrong asus 875 mobo that nice is p4c800-e series, shawty own that goody mobo.
as for 865pe then it will be p4p800-e series

too bad mine is x series......cheapo series.....cry.gif
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p4c800-e better than p4c800 Deluxe?
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p4c800-e better than p4c800 Deluxe?
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i think so as the 'E' series is better than normal series, there is p4c800-E dlx which is the top asus mobo for s478 if not mistaken. deluxe is just add more feature in the mobo. Correct me if i am wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif
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try my luck here
any1 goin to sell his mobo kindly pm me
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looking for i865,DC,sata..prefer asus or a bit board
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haha, pm siauann. he want to sell off his abit ic7 max3. one of the top mobo available for 478. thumbup.gif
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goin to get abit IS7-E
any idea??
i saw tat the delivering bandwidth is 4.8GB/s??
wats the diff between 4.8GB/s and 6.4GB/s??
any diff when i using DC??
6.4GB/s faster??

thx
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goin to get abit IS7-E
any idea??
i saw tat the delivering bandwidth is 4.8GB/s??
wats the diff between 4.8GB/s and 6.4GB/s??
any diff when i using DC??
6.4GB/s faster??

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so siauann pls pm me once u on9

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you pm him 1st la, then he will reply you. better be hurry. it is still a hot cake. smile.gif
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aiyo i cannot afford it la
but i knw its a good mobo..
just tat i don hv $$

can any1 help me??i asked just now regarding the delivering bandwidth
4.8GB/s....6.4GB/s...
wat it mean?

thx
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he offer 150 for that mobo if not wrong. too bad i dont want to invest more on my rig, if not sure i grab that gem. wink.gif
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if 150 i early get it liao lor..
i offer 20X....
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2-3-3-6 is quite tight already, have you try superPI??
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2.7GHz with lower fsb is the main reason your cpu cant get higher. Have you get your new cooler? i saw your thread that you are aiming for ultra-90. how is it? is your pcu temp very high?

what is the ram speed of your KVR?? if ddr400 then it should be quite flexible for you to pump the fsb.
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the main reason im not pushing my proc higher cuz now im using a capalang psu laugh.gif temps still not too bad,around 37c when idle and 49c on full load smile.gif

and also cuz one of my ram's is old school DDR266 paired with a newer DDR400 sweat.gif

wait till my good psu comes back and i get my ultra90 and a DDR400 ram and i'll try to go past 3ghz laugh.gif
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are you using 2.4b northwood?? as i know that 2.4b is not as good oc as 2.4c. Well, wait your ultra90 and ram come and pump your speed. smile.gif
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pengster, i am quite sure your processor can go 3ghz with DDR400 and better PSU.
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irangan, you oc'ed rig is kinda cool. from 3.4c to 3.82 how much degree C on full load? any voltage core modification been done?
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irangan, you oc'ed rig is kinda cool. from 3.4c to 3.82 how much degree C on full load? any voltage core modification been done?
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Idle temp = 32-33'C Full Load = 42-43'C

1.6Vcore, that is the max my mobo can go. if can, i wishes to pump 1.9V and see my processor go 4ghz+ haha..

p.s. with my current ram, i can go 3.9Ghz with 5:4 and 3.82Ghz with 1:1
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Idle temp = 32-33'C Full Load = 42-43'C

1.6Vcore, that is the max my mobo can go. if can, i wishes to pump 1.9V and see my processor go 4ghz+ haha..

p.s. with my current ram, i can go 3.9Ghz with 5:4 and 3.82Ghz with 1:1
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Wao going to 3.9GHz, rclxm9.gif that's preetty top speed already in this thread here.You got test up the results in benchmarks or not?Sure iit s tempting.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 8 2007, 10:37 PM)
are you using 2.4b northwood?? as i know that 2.4b is not as good oc as 2.4c. Well, wait your ultra90 and ram come and pump your speed. smile.gif
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yeap northwood..im not really that worried about my hsf..mainly my psu laugh.gif

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those are really nice temps for an overclocked p4 thumbup.gif hope mine'll be something like that when i get my ultra90 + chill factor smile.gif
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haha..........i more tempted to your ultra90. btw, how about the fan for it? may i know how much u spent on the hfs and the fan??

i missed shawty's last unit xp120......someone grabed the last unit from him 2 minutes before me.....cry.gif...cry.gif...cry.gif

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fan im thinking of getting a TT thunderblade 92mm from moderno...if i have time to buy it anyway laugh.gif if not maybe just my 80mm vantec spectrum led fan first if it fits smile.gif

for the ultra90 + s478 retention kit is rm155 and also the chill factor so its rm180 biggrin.gif
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Pengster your memory only able to run in DDR300?Is it your original RAM speed is running at DDR266?Your northwood core should be able to reach at least 3.0GHz with good settings.
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yeah cuz one of my rams is DDR266 laugh.gif and the other is a DDR400..i shall be gettin another stick of DDR400 ram to replace my old one biggrin.gif

the main reason im not pushing it like i did last time is cuz my enermax has been sent for RMA sweat.gif last time with my enermax and rams on 4:5 divider could reach 2.88ghz smile.gif after that dint try anymore
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 9 2007, 06:29 PM)
Wao going to 3.9GHz, rclxm9.gif that's preetty top speed already in this thread here.You got test up the results in benchmarks or not?Sure iit s tempting.
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i am using 3.82ghz, 1:1, 2 3 2 5 now because at 3.9ghz i need to use 5:4 and 3 4 4 8. smile.gif

i only tested superpi on 3.9ghz.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9839173


QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 9 2007, 06:32 PM)
yeap northwood..im not really that worried about my hsf..mainly my psu  laugh.gif

@irangan
those are really nice temps for an overclocked p4  thumbup.gif hope mine'll be something like that when i get my ultra90 + chill factor  smile.gif
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If your processor is northwood, you can go much much higher than your 2.7Ghz.

If your casing can fit, should get the Ultra 120. can perform much better smile.gif

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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 8 2007, 05:35 PM)
dont get that.. get siauann's mobo. you will be very suprise what that mobo can do.
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To me the only difference is its BIOS got more things, Vdimm at 3.2V and has OTES and more SATA drives support.

IS7-E the limit is its Vdimm, do a Vmod on it and you can get Vdimm of a IC7. Plus you can enable and disable PAT.

If you can, get the Abit AI7 if you can't get either the IS7-E/IC7-Max 3:) The best i865 chipset mobo from Abit

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 10 2007, 12:36 AM)
To me the only difference is its BIOS got more things, Vdimm at 3.2V and has OTES and more SATA drives support.

IS7-E the limit is its Vdimm, do a Vmod on it and you can get Vdimm of a IC7. Plus you can enable and disable PAT.

If you can, get the Abit AI7 if you can't get either the IS7-E/IC7-Max 3:) The best i865 chipset mobo from Abit
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adding to shinjite info,

Vdimm 3.2V in IC7Max3 is useless. got issue- VTT doh.gif
get AI7 if u can. max vdimm also at 3.2V but no issue. drool.gif

if u can get AI7 then just forget about IS7-E whistling.gif
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thx for the usefull info
i m getting a is7-e
btw...if siauann bro tested the ic7-max3 and decide to sell it pls PM me

n bros here who wan to sell his abit ai7..pm me oso

thx a lot..
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 9 2007, 09:17 PM)
fan im thinking of getting a TT thunderblade 92mm from moderno...if i have time to buy it anyway laugh.gif if not maybe just my 80mm vantec spectrum led fan first if it fits smile.gif

for the ultra90 + s478 retention kit is rm155 and also the chill factor so its rm180 biggrin.gif
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last time i saw from air cooling thread that 1 of the forumer manage to fit 120mm fan in his ultra90. blink.gif

rm180.....over budget for me...sweat.gif


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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Jan 10 2007, 04:54 AM)
adding to shinjite info,

Vdimm 3.2V in IC7Max3 is useless. got issue- VTT  doh.gif
get AI7 if u can. max vdimm also at 3.2V but no issue. drool.gif

if u can get AI7 then just forget about IS7-E whistling.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 9 2007, 11:16 PM)
i am using 3.82ghz, 1:1, 2 3 2 5 now because at 3.9ghz i need to use 5:4 and 3 4 4 8. smile.gif

i only tested superpi on 3.9ghz.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9839173
If your processor is northwood, you can go much much higher than your 2.7Ghz.

If your casing can fit, should get the Ultra 120. can perform much better smile.gif
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yeah 2.7ghz is just slight oc..since im on a capalang psu and all that laugh.gif my target would be 3.4ghz or at least 3ghz tongue.gif

dun think my casing can fit,cuz im using some cheap mid tower casing sweat.gif

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 10 2007, 10:41 AM)
last time i saw from air cooling thread that 1 of the forumer manage to fit 120mm fan in his ultra90. blink.gif

rm180.....over budget for me...sweat.gif
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its actually rm130 only leh...but sadly im not on LG775 yet so no choice but to get the bracket sad.gif and to maximize the performance mar get the chill factor lor laugh.gif
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kabukawie, if your 2.4B stepping is the same as mine C1, then 3 Ghz will be no problem with stock voltage, but to go to 3.4Ghz stable will be at 1.69V smile.gif

UNLESS yours is a M0 stepping, thats a gem, saw 1 guy have it, 3.51Ghz only needs 1.55V prime stable...shyt >.>"
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 4 2007, 05:37 PM)
But the difference is the A version is slightly faster than the E version although the E version has higher clock speed and using 1:1 divider.A version is using 5:4 divider so resulting the RAM running at lower speed. You can refer the post screens on page 2.
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It all depends on the ram's bandwidth efficiency and of course for SuperPI, the 1MB cache does help a lot in high frequencies, we Northwood users will lose.

For mine, my 5:4 ratio scores better than my 1:1 ratio in Sandra and SuperPI
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It all depends on the ram's bandwidth efficiency and of course for SuperPI, the 1MB cache does help a lot in high frequencies, we Northwood users will lose.

For mine, my 5:4 ratio scores better than my 1:1 ratio in Sandra and SuperPI
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Yaya recently i discovered that using tighter timing on my RAM does boost a bit on the Super PI. biggrin.gif The bandwidth efficiency really gives boost to overall system performance.
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erm just a question.if my ram's timings are too tight for my mobo,will it cause my whole pc to freeze up? unsure.gif
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erm just a question.if my ram's timings are too tight for my mobo,will it cause my whole pc to freeze up? unsure.gif
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Yaya,unsuitable RAM timing will causing your pc to freeze.Especially those tight timing like 2-x-x-x . If want to use those tight timing,need very good and high performance RAM.I see irangan's RAM also can run at tight timing nicely.I guess his value RAM is the best in terms of performance and value in tight timing setting.
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play around, if too tight it will either give you a long beep or it won't boot at all
If it can boot, another symptom is that your comp will freeze then restart XD
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 10 2007, 08:15 PM)
Yaya,unsuitable RAM timing will causing your pc to freeze.Especially those tight timing like 2-x-x-x . If want to use those tight timing,need very good and high performance RAM.I see irangan's RAM also can run at tight timing nicely.I guess his value RAM is the best  in terms of performance and value in tight timing setting.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 10 2007, 08:37 PM)
play around, if too tight it will either give you a long beep or it won't boot at all
If it can boot, another symptom is that your comp will freeze then restart XD
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oh okay...my timings too tight edi tongue.gif now readjusted to 2.5-3-3-6 and no problems so far for an hour+ edi..earlier on after 30mins den freeze edi doh.gif

oh yeah guyz i just got my DDR400 ram from irangan [nice guy laugh.gif ] so which do u all prefer?run both 512 at dual channel or put in my old 512 and make it total 1.5gb ram?
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 10 2007, 09:28 PM)
oh okay...my timings too tight edi  tongue.gif now readjusted to 2.5-3-3-6 and no problems so far for an hour+ edi..earlier on after 30mins den freeze edi  doh.gif

oh yeah guyz i just got my DDR400 ram from irangan [nice guy  laugh.gif ] so which do u all prefer?run both 512 at dual channel or put in my old 512 and make it total 1.5gb ram?
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You can try to run on both and see how is it. Of course 1.5GB RAM will be the best for your system.But if want to talk about overclocking need to see which pair of RAM does better.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 10 2007, 07:12 PM)
kabukawie, if your 2.4B stepping is the same as mine C1, then 3 Ghz will be no problem with stock voltage, but to go to 3.4Ghz stable will be at 1.69V smile.gif

UNLESS yours is a M0 stepping, thats a gem, saw 1 guy have it, 3.51Ghz only needs 1.55V prime stable...shyt >.>"
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mine is the 533fsb pressHott...A version. stock voltage i manage to boot at 3.2GHz but keep restarting. 3GHz is the best prime stable speed that i can go with stock.

UNLESS i have the same stepping as nelza's 2.4A, his gem manage to run at 3.6GHz at stock!!!! OMG! drool.gif

QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 10 2007, 09:28 PM)
oh okay...my timings too tight edi  tongue.gif now readjusted to 2.5-3-3-6 and no problems so far for an hour+ edi..earlier on after 30mins den freeze edi  doh.gif

oh yeah guyz i just got my DDR400 ram from irangan [nice guy  laugh.gif ] so which do u all prefer?run both 512 at dual channel or put in my old 512 and make it total 1.5gb ram?
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Better stick at 1GB at ddr400 to run at dual channel and you can boost your fsb 1:1 with tight timing coz still under 200fsb. thumbup.gif at 3GHz you can run at C2 for your ram. smile.gif



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holy sh- i just tried to replace my DDR266 ram with the new DDR400 KVR and it cant boot up shocking.gif came out saying some system32 file is missing mega_shok.gif

now i've set it back to the original 266+400 and it works fine icon_question.gif whats wrong??? icon_question.gif
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try to boot with 1 stick of ram, it can boot then put in another 1. maybe you can try to switch the ram or slot. hope it helps.
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ok..now i'll try to switch the slots..if still cant then maybe i put it all 3 sticks of ram and see what happens smile.gif wish me luck laugh.gif
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=.= i managed to boot up at 1.5gb of ram...used the 1st 2nd and 4th slot.when i tried the new ram only 1 piece[512mb] came out the bsod mega_shok.gif


edit : now can run 2 pc DDR400 but in slot 1 and 2 , not dual channel sad.gif gona try now to dual channel.

btw my speeds now is DDR375 on divider 4:5 and superPI is 59s [1s slower then my old dual channel rams]

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1.5GB is not dual channel so bandwidth will be slower than DC

Run memtest see got errors or not
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nope cant run dual channel at all sad.gif looks like i've gotta change the ram..lolz now my bandwidth is like 2400mbps only but 1.5gb ram DDR300 sad.gif
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u mean u cant run the ddr400 together?? hmm..... try run the newly bought ram, once boot then put it in your old ddr400 ram. Quite weird that. btw, did you set all settings to default timing and clock speed?

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yeah now i have 2 DDR400 and 1 DDR266 but i cant run both the DDR400 in dual channel,only single channel sad.gif damn sad lah...is it ram or mobo incompatible? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 10 2007, 11:41 PM)
yeah now i have 2 DDR400 and 1 DDR266 but i cant run both the DDR400 in dual channel,only single channel sad.gif damn sad lah...is it ram or mobo incompatible? unsure.gif
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try with different ram slots loh.....
if worst come to worst, use 1 stick of ddr400 + ddr 266
At least still will run DC at 266Mhz stock

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 10 2007, 07:42 PM)
Yaya recently i discovered that using tighter timing on my RAM does boost a bit on the Super PI. biggrin.gif  The bandwidth efficiency really gives boost to overall system performance.
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yeah.... tighter timing will boost your comp performance. that's why i rather run at 3.82ghz, 1:1, 2 3 2 5 than 3.9ghz, 5:4, 3 4 4 8. hehe

QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 10 2007, 08:01 PM)
erm just a question.if my ram's timings are too tight for my mobo,will it cause my whole pc to freeze up? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 10 2007, 08:15 PM)
Yaya,unsuitable RAM timing will causing your pc to freeze.Especially those tight timing like 2-x-x-x . If want to use those tight timing,need very good and high performance RAM.I see irangan's RAM also can run at tight timing nicely.I guess his value RAM is the best  in terms of performance and value in tight timing setting.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 10 2007, 08:37 PM)
play around, if too tight it will either give you a long beep or it won't boot at all
If it can boot, another symptom is that your comp will freeze then restart XD
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if memory timing not correct, your comp will freeze up OR cant even boot. need to clear CMOS before you boot.

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pengster, from your posting..

there is only 2 possible scenarios.

1)i think your old DDR400 is not compatible with your new ram. are you sure that your old DDR400 is Kingston Value RAM? just now during the trading, i gave you my ram box too. you can check the serial num on the box. my ram is 100% Kingston Value RAM.

2)your mobo dual channel have problem.

info: dual channel only works when both of the ram is identical. e.g. KVR and KVR and so on.

edit: Run memtest on my ram, i am sure that your pro is not due to faulty ram. i tested the ram before sold to you just now

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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 11 2007, 03:11 AM)
pengster, from your posting..

there is only 2 possible scenarios.

1)i think your old DDR400 is not compatible with your new ram. are you sure that your old DDR400 is Kingston Value RAM? just now during the trading, i gave you my ram box too. you can check the serial num on the box. my ram is 100% Kingston Value RAM.

2)your mobo dual channel have problem.

info: dual channel only works when both of the ram is identical. e.g. KVR and KVR and so on.

edit: Run memtest on my ram, i am sure that your pro is not due to faulty ram. i tested the ram before sold to you just now
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to run dual channel not necessary KVR with KVR.
i had once try KVR with Corsair, KVR & Apacer also no problem
but just the same value of both ram, which is 512 & 512
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Jan 11 2007, 02:38 AM)
to run dual channel not necessary KVR with KVR.
i had once try KVR with Corsair, KVR & Apacer also no problem
but just the same value of both ram, which is 512 & 512
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if your saying is correct, that's means that there is something wrong with pengster mobo.
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even not the same type of RAM also able to run in DC, but doesn't mean all can run.
in this case, i believe the problem come from the RAM instead of mobo.
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maybe the spd of the ram is different for both ram. maybe can try adjust the ram timing at c3 or 2.5. by setting loose timing than the ori timing that acceptable for both, maybe can run DC. Just my 2 cents. icon_rolleyes.gif
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okay now im running at dual channel with 1 of my old DDR266 and irangan's DDR400 and no problems..just that when i boot it says overclocking failed and i have to set back to my stock speeds (2.4ghz) sad.gif now im gonna try with stock speeds but with my other DDR400.

btw my other ram is confirmed a KVR,i bought it and it cam with the same box plus a blue cardboard box laugh.gif

edit : when i tried booting up with both my DDR400 it says NTLDR is missing , press ctrl alt del to restart icon_question.gif

OMFG i totally cant boot up my pc anymore cry.gif im using my laptop atm..wtffff

edit again : now can boot up again with both DDR400 in slot 1 and 2 after i disabled spread spectrum and changed my boot up harddisk priority sweat.gif

edit yet again : now i've succesfully managed to run dual channel with both the DDR400 KVR's smile.gif but i cant set back my normal 2.7ghz but now 2.52ghz only..bumped up the vdimm n it was able to boot sweat.gif now my vdimm is 2.55v from the stock 2.5v i think.

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u really learn alot . haha
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 11 2007, 08:01 PM)
okay now im running at dual channel with 1 of my old DDR266 and irangan's DDR400 and no problems..just that when i boot it says overclocking failed and i have to set back to my stock speeds (2.4ghz) sad.gif now im gonna try with stock speeds but with my other DDR400.

btw my other ram is confirmed a KVR,i bought it and it cam with the same box plus a blue cardboard box laugh.gif

edit : when i tried booting up with both my DDR400 it says NTLDR is missing , press ctrl alt del to restart  icon_question.gif

OMFG i totally cant boot up my pc anymore  cry.gif im using my laptop atm..wtffff

edit again : now can boot up again with both DDR400 in slot 1 and 2 after i disabled spread spectrum and changed my boot up harddisk priority  sweat.gif

edit yet again : now i've succesfully managed to run dual channel with both the DDR400 KVR's  smile.gif but i cant set back my normal 2.7ghz but now 2.52ghz only..bumped up the vdimm n it was able to boot  sweat.gif now my vdimm is 2.55v from the stock 2.5v i think.
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i think there is something wrong with your mobo.
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just to share my new OC with 2.8E

2.8@3.712@5:4@265.15@212.12
superPi 1M at 38S blush.gif
all this with Clockgen and finished in window.
this OC is fully stable with dual sp2004 no error for 4 hours
and memtest 2 hours no error.

i think my IC7-Max3 still can go higher--->4Ghz barrier! rclxms.gif
i'll do the VTT mod next week.
currently my Vdimm is max out at 2.8V. my Corsair UTT BH5 willing to suck more of it. Running at 5:4 really can show that my 2.8G can fly high.

i'll post the new result as soon as i get the VTT mod done.
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i wanted to attach the printscreen but somehow it can't attach the file.
wonder what went wrong rclxub.gif
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Good efford! Finally you can run DC:respect:
is your rig performance have increase even with lower speed+DC??
maybe you can try to disable the DC and push the cpu higher, DC somehow may lower the oc performance.

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thanx all but now i cant go past 140mhzx18=2520mhz sad.gif when i try 142 or 145 it comes out the BSOD n says "page fault at non paged area" any1 noe whats that suppose to mean?

tried SuperPI 1M n got 1min1sec doh.gif worst then my old timing of 58secs.btw im on 3-4-4-8,2.5-3-3-7 cant work sad.gif

shud i try to bump up the vdimm even more?now mine's 2.55v from the stock of 2.5v i think..the max my mobo allows me is 2.68v
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i use the same mobo as yours.
max vdimm is 2.68v sad.gif but it seems you just manage to oc to 1.5GHz, then no need to rise.
is your virtual memory large enough? page file drive space is limited?

i have 1 question, is your divider is 4:5?? if 1:1 then it is quite flexible to up as you ar running the ram at speed lower than default. try set the dram speed to 266 instead of auto or 333(can be found in BIOS>advance or somewhere there) to run at 1:1 instead of 4:5 by default(coz cpu is 533fsb with ram ddr400) Hope this help. smile.gif




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yeah my virtual memory is 2GB if im not mistaken..my divider is 5:4 laugh.gif now my rams are running at DDR350 on auto mode smile.gif will try to set to 333mhz later biggrin.gif

now im running prime95 on my pc to stress it and see if its stable or not..

ran prime95 for 1hour and 6mins and had 1 error sad.gif was using blend tests...looks like my ram's are causing it

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just to share my new OC with 2.8E

2.8@3.712@5:4@265.15@212.12
superPi 1M at 38S blush.gif
all this with Clockgen and finished in window.
this OC is fully stable with dual sp2004 no error for 4 hours
and memtest 2 hours no error.

i think my IC7-Max3 still can go higher--->4Ghz barrier! rclxms.gif
i'll do the VTT mod next week.
currently my Vdimm is max out at 2.8V. my Corsair UTT BH5 willing to suck more of it. Running at 5:4 really can show that my 2.8G can fly high.

i'll post the new result as soon as i get the VTT mod done.
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Wao overclockabert,nice to see you can acheive 3.7GHz. thumbup.gif Really the nice one.The E version is easy to break 4Ghz. rclxms.gif  waiting for you good news on 4GHz.
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i'm gathering all the infomation i got to perform the VTT mod on my IC7 MAX3 in order to run my UTT BH5 at 3.2V.
i'll need fellow forumer here to help me gather as much information as possible as to complete the MOD.

i also found out that a Droop Mod also helps to stablelize Vcore and Vdimm to help OC more success.

you help is most welcome.thanks
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 12 2007, 02:38 PM)
i use the same mobo as yours.
max vdimm is 2.68v sad.gif but it seems you just manage to oc to 1.5GHz, then no need to rise.
is your virtual memory large enough? page file drive space is limited?

i have 1 question, is your divider is 4:5?? if 1:1 then it is quite flexible to up as you ar running the ram at speed lower than default. try set the dram speed to 266 instead of auto or 333(can be found in BIOS>advance or somewhere there) to run at 1:1 instead of 4:5 by default(coz cpu is 533fsb with ram ddr400) Hope this help. smile.gif
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i've just set my DRAM freq to 333mhz but it's still 5:4 divider as shown in cpuz hmm.gif and the speed is still 350mhz.oh yeah i've also increased the vdimm to 2.658v [max] edi smile.gif
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i've just set my DRAM freq to 333mhz but it's still 5:4 divider as shown in cpuz  hmm.gif and the speed is still 350mhz.oh yeah i've also increased the vdimm to 2.658v [max] edi  smile.gif
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setting to 333 means it run at 4:5, set it to 266(same as my setting), then you will have 1:1 mean your ram is running at ddr333. i believe you can increase your fsb to 160 at least, 160*18=2880MHz. Not bad already. smile.gif worth try!
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 13 2007, 02:05 PM)
setting to 333 means it run at 4:5, set it to 266(same as my setting), then you will have 1:1 mean your ram is running at ddr333. i believe you can increase your fsb to 160 at least, 160*18=2880MHz. Not bad already. smile.gif worth try!
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kayz set it to 266mhz already and yeah its on 1:1 divider now but only 140mhz[280mhz] sweat.gif even slower then my old 300mhz speed.nvm i shall try to go back to 2.7ghz again laugh.gif

ugh even at 1:1 divider cant go past 2520mhz sleep.gif still stuck at 140fsb.so now reverted back to auto frequency for my rams.

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the max you can go on 1:1 is only up to 140?? hmm.......i thought it can go higher.

last time i cant get pass through 2.9GHz with 4:5 divider cause my ram cant get though 220+-(forgot the exact value tongue.gif )

once i set to 1:1, i able to boot to windows at 3.38GHz(188*18) max. My ram not even reach to its default speed. smile.gif

The reason why set to lower ram speed is to give ram more room to go up along with your cpu fsb. try to push your cpu fsb higher like 150++.

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tried pushing my cpu fsb with auto dram frequency and 266mhz frequency both also cant go past 142mhz sad.gif could it be my psu now is a capalang 1 n not stable and all that thats y i cant push higher? unsure.gif sienz lah now cant even get to my ori speed of 2.7ghz.

lets say if i do not have any problems now,which is better?higher cpu clock speed or higher ram speed? laugh.gif
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try to get your highest cpu clock with 1:1 then switch to 4:5 to see whether your ram can keep up or not.

your FMA not yet in your hand?? hmm.........

you running at 2.7GHz means 150fsb?? and your ram is 350(default 333)?? are you running with your old slower ram?? if your old ram run together with your ddr400, then its hard to push it higher.

Its better that run your both ddr400 together even not in DC. At least your ram can run perfectly at 400MHz speed. then set it to 1:1 which set down your ddr400 to ddr333. you have a room of 66 cpu fsb in order to get to ddr400 speed. 66*18= 1188MHz of OC! From what i notice, DC doesn't mean everything, just additional memory bandwidth. If you can run at higher speed like 100-200MHz higher than slower speed with DC, you will benefit more with higher speed. Nelza-ax is a good example of this case, his 2.4A prescott is running at 4GHz with 1 stick of ram, no DC, no HT. His super PI 1M is 35s shocking.gif and he said his sandra mem bandwidth is only 3K++.

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icic...yeah my FMA not back yet sad.gif just checked cpuz n it says that at 200mhz my rams def timings shud be 3-3-3-8 but i cant even set that.wont even boot if i set 3-3-3-8.so now currently is 3-4-4-7 sweat.gif

last time when i reached 2.7ghz my fsb was 150mhz.that time i was on 1 stick kvr400 and another kvr266 but 1:1 divider so its running DC at DDR300 speeds.last time b4 my FMA kaput i managed to reach 2880mhz with that set up but 5:4 divider lah.so that time my rams was running at DDR395 biggrin.gif now since my good psu send for warranty everything's messed up already sad.gif

hmm i thought dual channel is good ie increase performance/response time all that? laugh.gif cuz like u know earlier i tried so hard to get my 2 sticks of KVR400 to work in DC and now im afraid if i change it again i cant get it back to DC laugh.gif
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try to get your highest cpu clock with 1:1 then switch to 4:5 to see whether your ram can keep up or not.

your FMA not yet in your hand?? hmm.........

you running at 2.7GHz means 150fsb?? and your ram is 350(default 333)??  are you running with your old slower ram?? if your old ram run together with your ddr400, then its hard to push it higher.

Its better that run your both ddr400 together even not in DC. At least your ram can run perfectly at 400MHz speed. then set it to 1:1 which set down your ddr400 to ddr333. you have a room of 66 cpu fsb in order to get to ddr400 speed. 66*18= 1188MHz of OC! From what i notice, DC doesn't mean everything, just additional memory bandwidth. If you can run at higher  speed like 100-200MHz higher than slower speed with DC, you will benefit more with higher speed. Nelza-ax is a good example of this case, his 2.4A prescott is running at 4GHz with 1 stick of ram, no DC, no HT. His super PI 1M is 35s shocking.gif and he said his sandra mem bandwidth is only 3K++.
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His SuperPI is fast because of the 1MB L2 cache
Sandra mem bandwidth only 3 K? That means he is running on single channel only

The only Northwood I know is the highest here is kcync's Northwood, 34 seconds



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can you feel the responsiveness with and without DC?? i dont really feel the responsiveness. Only have different in memory benchmark. DC if not wrong it boost like 5%+- of current system. if performance for higher speed without DC is better than highest with DC, then there is no harm to live without DC. tongue.gif

i havent try to disable DC and push it higher, maybe it can help to squeeze somemore juice from my cpu...hehe... i wish i have FMA laugh.gif
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His SuperPI is fast because of the 1MB L2 cache
Sandra mem bandwidth only 3 K? That means he is running on single channel only

The only Northwood I know is the highest here is kcync's Northwood, 34 seconds
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 13 2007, 04:45 PM)
can you feel the responsiveness with and without DC?? i dont really feel the responsiveness. Only have different in memory benchmark. DC if not wrong it boost like 5%+- of current system. if performance for higher speed without DC is better than highest with DC, then there is no harm to live without DC. tongue.gif

i havent try to disable DC and push it higher, maybe it can help to squeeze somemore juice from my cpu...hehe... i wish i have FMA laugh.gif
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dont know laugh.gif now my bandwith as stated frm sandra is like 2.7K+ only doh.gif so if i disable DC will it be able to go higher?lolz if not then im not touching my rams till my FMA returns laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 13 2007, 04:53 PM)
yup, single channel. the insane speed and 1mb L2 cache really boost the super PI. kcync's northwood is quite high oc, i forgot how fast. 34s is cool drool.gif
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34 seconds in Northwood is equalavent to 4Ghz range. Remember he is using phase cooling smile.gif Us air cooling can't even reach 4 Ghz, its going to the limits already

QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 13 2007, 04:58 PM)
dont know  laugh.gif now my bandwith as stated frm sandra is like 2.7K+ only  doh.gif so if i disable DC will it be able to go higher?lolz if not then im not touching my rams till my FMA returns  laugh.gif
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If you play around normally in desktop, you won't feel any difference, most of it will be in benchmarks. So if u disable your DC, expect lower scores then....smile.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 13 2007, 05:02 PM)
34 seconds in Northwood is equalavent to 4Ghz range. Remember he is using phase cooling smile.gif Us air cooling can't even reach 4 Ghz, its going to the limits already
If you play around normally in desktop, you won't feel any difference, most of it will be in benchmarks. So if u disable your DC, expect lower scores then....smile.gif
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oh okay..how about gaming and other processor hungry apps like encoding vids and all that?will there be a significant difference if i disable DC? unsure.gif maybe i'll add in my old ram n make it 1.5gb laugh.gif
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i'm gathering all the infomation i got to perform the VTT mod on my IC7 MAX3 in order to run my UTT BH5 at 3.2V.
i'll need fellow forumer here to help me gather as much information as possible as to complete the MOD.

i also found out that a Droop Mod also helps to stablelize Vcore and Vdimm to help OC more success.

you help is most welcome.thanks
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Vmodding need really expert work as it involves soldering work on board. sweat.gif I also not giong to try as i feel risky.Well increasing the Vdimm sure will boost more on RAM.

QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 13 2007, 05:02 PM)
34 seconds in Northwood is equalavent to 4Ghz range. Remember he is using phase cooling smile.gif Us air cooling can't even reach 4 Ghz, its going to the limits already
If you play around normally in desktop, you won't feel any difference, most of it will be in benchmarks. So if u disable your DC, expect lower scores then....smile.gif
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34s is preety fast.The fastest i can get on mine system is 38s with 3.712GHz with 1:1 divider @231FSB on my board. Using phase cooling only gives little boost on the PI result,that's hard to believe also.But Northwood will be max out at 4GHz,i guess that is the best he can done already. biggrin.gif

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dont know  laugh.gif now my bandwith as stated frm sandra is like 2.7K+ only  doh.gif so if i disable DC will it be able to go higher?lolz if not then im not touching my rams till my FMA returns  laugh.gif
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disable DC will decrease the score for sure. i tried before, same speed it drop from 4k to 3k+a bit. doh.gif
BTW, what you set for your "performance mode" in 'chipset' at BIOS?? MUST put enable to run DC, AUTO will most probably disable it. Thats my experience. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 13 2007, 09:41 PM)
Vmodding need really expert work as it involves soldering work on board. sweat.gif I also not giong to try as i feel risky.Well increasing the Vdimm sure will boost more on RAM.
34s is preety fast.The fastest i can get on mine system is 38s with 3.712GHz with 1:1 divider @231FSB on my board. Using phase cooling only gives little boost on the PI result,that's hard to believe also.But Northwood will be max out at 4GHz,i guess that is the best he can done already. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 13 2007, 11:15 PM)
disable DC will decrease the score for sure. i tried before, same speed it drop from 4k to 3k+a bit.  doh.gif
BTW, what you set for your "performance mode" in 'chipset' at BIOS?? MUST put enable to run DC, AUTO will most probably disable it. Thats my experience. icon_rolleyes.gif
wao.....phase cooling shocking.gif . whats the cpu speed?
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owh okay..i set mine to auto laugh.gif just now when running at 3-4-4-7 after some gaming came out BSOD "IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL" sweat.gif my default timing at DDR400 supposed to be 3-3-3-8 but cant even run at that rated timings doh.gif
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no wonder you hardly have DC la...laugh.gif

mine ddr400 my default spd on 400MHz, then it will be 2.5-4-4-8 sad.gif
currently running on spd at 2-3-3-6, prime overnight stable at 168*18 smile.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 13 2007, 11:43 PM)
no wonder you hardly have DC la...laugh.gif

mine ddr400 my default spd on 400MHz, then it will be 2.5-4-4-8 sad.gif
currently running on spd at 2-3-3-6, prime overnight stable at 168*18  smile.gif
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even on auto cpuz and everest show im on DC..now i've set the performance to enable edi smile.gif any ideas why my rams cant even run at its default 3-3-3-8 timings?i damn dulan of my pc edi yawn.gif
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even on auto cpuz and everest show im on DC..now i've set the performance to enable edi  smile.gif any ideas why my rams cant even run at its default 3-3-3-8 timings?i damn dulan  of my pc edi  yawn.gif
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I think the Vdimm is limiting you.Asus P4P800-X max at 2.68V. sad.gif
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yeah...already set mine to the max of 2.658v already sad.gif iirc last time on my msi mobo i dint change the vdimm n can reach up to 2.88ghz [192.5mhz on rams]
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i dont think is the vdimm, i face even weird case on this mobo, it wont boot at all if i set to 3-x-x-x on 1:1!!!! sweat.gif

but if the ram speed is above default, then its fine.
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haihz..cant do much at my current situation..so shud i stick in another 512mb ram?is it better that way or its better to run DC with two KVR400s unsure.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 13 2007, 09:41 PM)
Vmodding need really expert work as it involves soldering work on board. sweat.gif I also not giong to try as i feel risky.Well increasing the Vdimm sure will boost more on RAM.
34s is preety fast.The fastest i can get on mine system is 38s with 3.712GHz with 1:1 divider @231FSB on my board. Using phase cooling only gives little boost on the PI result,that's hard to believe also.But Northwood will be max out at 4GHz,i guess that is the best he can done already. biggrin.gif
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For Vdimm mod, u need to solder a higher Ohm capasitor, like 300-450Ohm. As for droop mod, a bit tough.

Kcync's Northwood is over 4 Ghz (34 seconds man rclxms.gif ), with phase cooling, over 4 Ghz is easy because your temp is below sub zero and you can increase the voltage to >1.9V without much problems.


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disable DC will decrease the score for sure. i tried before, same speed it drop from 4k to 3k+a bit.  doh.gif
BTW, what you set for your "performance mode" in 'chipset' at BIOS?? MUST put enable to run DC, AUTO will most probably disable it. Thats my experience. icon_rolleyes.gif
wao.....phase cooling shocking.gif . whats the cpu speed?
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better way?? put ddr400 ram at slot 1 and 3, enable the performance mode in bios. then your DC is on most probably. (dont curse me if it doesnt work that way tongue.gif )

if it doesnt change anything like DC cannot enabled or no oc improve at 1:1, then you can just run at 1.5GB ram. Just my cheap 2 cents icon_rolleyes.gif
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Over 4 Ghz  thumbup.gif
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Seriously don't know dude, ask kcync biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Jan 14 2007, 01:58 AM)
anyone know how much a vappo chiller cost? the cheapest one will do.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 14 2007, 01:13 AM)
better way?? put ddr400 ram at slot 1 and 3, enable the performance mode in bios. then your DC is on most probably. (dont curse me if it doesnt work that way tongue.gif )

if it doesnt change anything like DC cannot enabled or no oc improve at 1:1, then you can just run at 1.5GB ram. Just my cheap 2 cents icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah my rams are in slot 1 and 3 already,performance mode enabled,DC on and 1:1 divider but still cant go higher then 140mhz on fsb doh.gif lolz

now gonna try to put in the other 512mb ram n see whether can push higher or not laugh.gif

edit : now this is weird.i've set my other 512mb ram in my pc and i was able to push it back to my original 2.7ghz speed.just no DC and 1:1 divider.superPI 1M got 1min3secs sweat.gif timings are 2.5-3-3-6.

another thing,when i tried to loosen the timing from 2.5-3-3-6 to 3-3-3-6 my comp wont even boot up doh.gif but can boot up with tighter timings icon_idea.gif

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means ur DC mode dont support CL3
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i wasnt running on DC...lol 512mb x3 KVRs laugh.gif when on DC i could run 3-4-4-8 but not the default timing of 3-3-3-8.damn weird lah.

so far no probs with 2.7Ghz with 512MB x3 KVR at DDR300 smile.gif
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finally my max3 is functioning rclxm9.gif

i jz tested out...pasang proc + hsf...pasang ram..pasang psu..pasang gc...then those cables on mobo...try on it...it it wrks...so happy...fan...evrythg all run...
n the sad part is i selling off.. sad.gif miss those old days whr i got myself tccd...n now this board baru jalan..haih rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 14 2007, 04:08 PM)
i wasnt running on DC...lol 512mb x3 KVRs laugh.gif when on DC i could run 3-4-4-8 but not the default timing of 3-3-3-8.damn weird lah.

so far no probs with 2.7Ghz with 512MB x3 KVR at DDR300 smile.gif
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Oh 3 sticks eh...iciicc
more ram can open more programs, XD
DC is only for benchamrks XD
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 14 2007, 06:38 PM)
Oh 3 sticks eh...iciicc
more ram can open more programs, XD
DC is only for benchamrks XD
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still dont know why when 2x kvr400 on dc cant oc but 3x kvr can oc sweat.gif
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real life performance you won't feel a lot of differences
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benchmark no mean real performance.

pengster, you have the case case as mine, run 1:1 with c3 it wont boot doh.gif
since you can run 3 sticks on 2.7GHz, just carry on. smile.gif maybe your FMA can help you push higher.
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benchmark no mean real performance.

pengster, you have the case case as mine, run 1:1 with c3 it wont boot doh.gif
since you can run 3 sticks on 2.7GHz, just carry on. smile.gif maybe your FMA can help you push higher.
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the weird things of this board is that if i run my ram beyond or at default, then cl3 is fine. 2.68v vdimm really low, it should give till 2.8v doh.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 14 2007, 08:45 PM)
benchmark no mean real performance.

pengster, you have the case case as mine, run 1:1 with c3 it wont boot doh.gif
since you can run 3 sticks on 2.7GHz, just carry on. smile.gif maybe your FMA can help you push higher.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 14 2007, 08:48 PM)
I thought the Asus P4P800-X should be able to support the Cl3 RAM.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif I think this is the reason why this board just let us set Vdimm to 2.68V only.
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yalah.weird lah this board.def timing 3-3-3-8 cant boot doh.gif somemore lower then the def freq doh.gif

hopefully when i get my FMA back i can reach 3Ghz without any problems tongue.gif
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anyway, it serve me well for 2 years+ smile.gif i didnt say its bad as it is not designed for extreme. X series in asus is for budget user. i hardly complain for its stability and performance. if you want for extreme, get siauann's Max3. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 14 2007, 08:58 PM)
the weird things of this board is that if i run my ram beyond or at default, then cl3 is fine. 2.68v vdimm really low, it should give till 2.8v doh.gif
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i think this is the first time i heard that DC wont work at CL3. pengster, probably can ask your dad to get the IC7 Max smile.gif
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Some rams can't work at CL3 irangan smile.gif
For example, BH-5 chips smile.gif

and the TwinMos DDR400 value ram with PSC chips, tightest is 2.5-3-3-5, and loosest is 2.5/4/4/8, if CAS go CL2 or CL3 it won't boot

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i have some questions that need help,

P4 Prescott 2.8E stepping3 rev CO flex.gif
P4 Prescott 2.8E stepping4 rev DO flex.gif

i wanna know which 2.8E is better? in OC or in gaming. biggrin.gif

thanks

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if its good in OC sure it will be good for gaming XD

Normally D0 being the later revision should be better, M0 being the best

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D0 is better in OC. C0 is quite hot. sad.gif

M0 is quite rare. i wish i have D0 steping.
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I wish I have M0 stepping instead but its easy to find out
Under the SL code, its SL6Z5, got the 'Z' means M0 steppin smile.gif

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is it? that something i dont know. haha......... i forgot my SL code already. tongue.gif

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where to find the SL code? unsure.gif

omg i am so stupid to think that it was the rams that was giving me the headaches doh.gif

the actual problem is my PSU cannot handle the requirements of the 6800s like my 6800GS sad.gif now just took out my 6800GS n replaced with my old 9550 n worked fine till now.

ps.before this i cant even boot up my pc after last night.last night used the pc for 7hours and no problems but around 10pm came out the BSOD.from then till just now could not boot up.
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i see, so its your cap ayam psu not enough juice. if you dare to try, modify 1 of the old psu and feed it only to your 6800gs. haha.....just a lame suggestion. I try that before with old 230w old psu to power up my 9800pro and 2 case fans, works fine for about a year. tongue.gif

now hows the oc after switch the gc? ever try to push higher?
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argh.i h-a-t-e cheap psus dry.gif cause me so much headache trying to figure out what was the damn problem.LOL or maybe im just a n00b biggrin.gif

lolz im still a kid lah duno how to mod a psu..and my other old psu also no switch to turn it on/off laugh.gif

nahh havent tried to push it higher yet.since its a cap ayam psu 2.7ghz is good enough.when i get a better psu or my fma back then i'll try for 3Ghz.dang cant play all those graphic intense games no more sad.gif
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haha, easy 1, just a simple mode to bypass1 of the wire. then when the psu power on the psu is on. smile.gif i know it is not recommended to do so. haha..... but to me i think its better than 2 cap ayam psu share the workload instead of 1 psu to handle all workload. At least cap ayam psu can handle smaller workload. no offence icon_rolleyes.gif

i tried this, its a simple mod. have fun.

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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 15 2007, 07:25 PM)
where to find the SL code? unsure.gif

omg i am so stupid to think that it was the rams that was giving me the headaches doh.gif

the actual problem is my PSU cannot handle the requirements of the 6800s like my 6800GS sad.gif now just took out my 6800GS n replaced with my old 9550 n worked fine till now.

ps.before this i cant even boot up my pc after last night.last night used the pc for 7hours and no problems but around 10pm came out the BSOD.from then till just now could not boot up.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 15 2007, 08:49 PM)
Its written in your Intel box and the processor itself
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oh okay.will check when i change my HSF later this month biggrin.gif

found out that my Turion64 1.8Ghz with 110mb available real memory is the same with my 2.7ghz P4 with 700mb of available real memory in SuperPI sweat.gif both also achieved 57s laugh.gif
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Hahaha....AMD's architecture, their IPC count is way higher than Intel's per cycle, if compare same clock speed, Intel P4 kan toi adi.....cannot be compared 1

Thats why last time they say AMD's 2 Ghz = Intel's 3Ghz and above

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haha...pengster, wanna sell ur 6800gs to me??hehe...

anyway, i just using my P4 3.2E in default clock.using intel board, so the overclockability is almost 0%..tongue.gif
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You can use SoftFSB smile.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 17 2007, 02:46 AM)
You can use SoftFSB smile.gif
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ooo..can use thi software to oc my ancient rig arr??will try it later... rclxms.gif

edit:looks like i can't find softfsb which support my intel865perl.... sweat.gif
anyone wanna sell their overclockable mobo to me?? icon_idea.gif

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You can try to google out for clockgen too smile.gif
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ooo..can use thi software to oc my ancient rig arr??will try it later... rclxms.gif

edit:looks like i can't find softfsb which support my intel865perl.... sweat.gif
      anyone wanna sell their overclockable mobo to me??  icon_idea.gif
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I don't think this mobo can do any overclocking on it. Not even the softfsb or clockgen unless you change the motherboard.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 17 2007, 01:01 PM)
I don't think this mobo can do any overclocking on it. Not even the softfsb or clockgen unless you change the motherboard.
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Ya, i agree too.
If ur mobo don't have OC features, then no matter wat softFSB u use, u still cant OC it unless u change the mobo. smile.gif
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have u tried using clockgen??

http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php
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i thought software like clockgen is the option for those non ocable mobo to oc. but even you can oc with non ocable mobo, the clock for pci and agp will be high and it may kill those cards due to the lack of agp/pci lock.
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 17 2007, 04:01 PM)
Ya, i agree too.
If ur mobo don't have OC features, then no matter wat softFSB u use, u still cant OC it unless u change the mobo. smile.gif
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sienz.now duno whats wrong with my pc again.cant boot up at 2.7ghz sad.gif so now back on stock 2.4ghz.and without 1 stick of kvr. icon_question.gif

i think i'll lay off till my fma returns smile.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 17 2007, 09:31 PM)
sienz.now duno whats wrong with my pc again.cant boot up at 2.7ghz sad.gif so now back on stock 2.4ghz.and without 1 stick of kvr.  icon_question.gif

i think i'll lay off till my fma returns  smile.gif
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One of your RAM got faulty?Hehe,if dun run on dual channel also cannot boot up?
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 17 2007, 09:37 PM)
One of your RAM got faulty?Hehe,if dun run on dual channel also cannot boot up?
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lol cant be..i took out my old(er) ram which was working fine before..yeah forgotten to say that i wasnt on dual channel with 1.5gb of ram.now with 1gb also not dual channel doh.gif

so now i using slot 1 and 4 with 2x KVR400.non DC 1:1 divider.p4 at stock 2.4ghz. sad.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 17 2007, 09:47 PM)
lol cant be..i took out my old(er) ram which was working fine before..yeah forgotten to say that i wasnt on dual channel with 1.5gb of ram.now with 1gb also not dual channel  doh.gif

so now i using slot 1 and 4 with 2x KVR400.non DC 1:1 divider.p4 at stock 2.4ghz. sad.gif
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You got try to clear the CMOS and put back 2 sticks of RAM? Might be CMOS corrupted.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 17 2007, 07:28 PM)
Are you sure?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 17 2007, 09:58 PM)
You got try to clear the CMOS and put back 2 sticks of RAM? Might be CMOS corrupted.
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hmm nope..to clear the CMOS just take out the 5v battery right? unsure.gif lolz
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hmm nope..to clear the CMOS just take out the 5v battery right? unsure.gif lolz
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@pengster
what version of your bios? maybe update it to later version can help solve the problem. Give it a try. smile.gif

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 17 2007, 10:05 PM)
ya, quite sure according to my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong. smile.gif
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http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/software/dcc/

It does work brows.gif

Note : Lowest support is 865 PERL board smile.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 17 2007, 11:33 PM)
Note : Lowest support is 865 PERL board :)This program only allows you to overclock 3% which you don't feel any difference on it after o/c. doh.gif
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so that program enable oc in window?? but 3% is consider same as no o at all. Never used before as my mobo is not supported.

Better get other mobo if really want to oc. s478 mobo is almost like antique now, really hard to find. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 18 2007, 01:14 PM)
so that program enable oc in window?? but 3% is consider same as no o at all. Never used before as my mobo is not supported.

Better get other mobo if really want to oc. s478 mobo is almost like antique now, really hard to find. sad.gif
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The program is useless in Intel 865PERL. Last time i owned one,no matter after or before o/c,the performance is still almost the same. yawn.gif
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haha...i also oc my mobo before using old version clockgen.using 2.8E can go up untill 3.2...the performance increased...
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i have use clockgen before but never success after few try, then give up and use manual BIOS oc which is easier to set. smile.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 18 2007, 10:14 AM)
Note : Lowest support is 865 PERL board :)This program only allows you to overclock 3% which you don't feel any difference on it after o/c. doh.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 18 2007, 01:14 PM)
so that program enable oc in window?? but 3% is consider same as no o at all. Never used before as my mobo is not supported.

Better get other mobo if really want to oc. s478 mobo is almost like antique now, really hard to find. sad.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
The program is useless in Intel 865PERL. Last time i owned one,no matter after or before o/c,the performance is still almost the same. yawn.gif
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Tough luck for you guys then
Some guys OCed their Dell to 3.5Ghz without problems....laugh.gif

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Tough luck for you guys then
Some guys OCed their Dell to 3.5Ghz without problems....laugh.gif
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oc till 3.5GHz is sweet, i have worry on the agp/pci speed that rise along oc will slowly kill cards attached. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 17 2007, 11:26 PM)
@pengster
what version of your bios? maybe update it to later version can help solve the problem. Give it a try. smile.gif
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mine's version 1009 if im not mistaken..tried to update the bios thru asus update utility but cant find the file in the server doh.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 19 2007, 09:27 AM)
oc till 3.5GHz is sweet, i have worry on the agp/pci speed that rise along oc will slowly kill cards attached. sad.gif
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Yup thats just the only problem smile.gif
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@kabukiawie
sorry my bios version is 8.00.09 blush.gif is it safe to download the newer bios [if any] and just install it? unsure.gif


after trying umpteen times i finally got my pc to boot up laugh.gif all settings at default and now running DC with 2 of my KVR400 at 166mhz 5:4 divider smile.gif now i wonder if i can push it back up to 2.7ghz without any problems hmm.gif


edit : but i love my temps currently - 33c idle rclxm9.gif

edit 2 : i've already downloaded the beta bios v1010..should i use it?hmm abit afraid la cuz its beta laugh.gif

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i not facing any issue on v1009 beta. 33c is nice temp. your kvr running at 166? are you sure it is 5:4? easiest way to check is by using cpuz.smile.gif

i left default is running 4:5 = cpu(166):ram(200), now running 1:1 cpu(166):ram(166). unless i get 800fsb proc, if not it is no chance for me to get 5:4, 3:2 divider. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 19 2007, 09:27 AM)
oc till 3.5GHz is sweet, i have worry on the agp/pci speed that rise along oc will slowly kill cards attached. sad.gif
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you mean using clockgen the agp/pci can be lock?? i go download and try. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 20 2007, 12:48 AM)
i not facing any issue on v1009 beta. 33c is nice temp. your kvr running at 166? are you sure it is 5:4? easiest way to check is by using cpuz.smile.gif

i left default is running 4:5 = cpu(166):ram(200), now running 1:1 cpu(166):ram(166). unless i get 800fsb proc, if not it is no chance for me to get 5:4, 3:2 divider. tongue.gif
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v1009beta or v1010beta? unsure.gif yeap confirmed running at DDR333 dual channel.fsb:4 dram:5 divider.fsb at stock 133mhz now smile.gif later shall try to get back to 150mhz

33c cuz never oc mar tongue.gif

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also socket 478.. but celeron wor... can i join? tongue.gif
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long time didnt update lo...i dont know its already having v1010 tongue.gif lazy to update it as now my system is rock stable. smile.gif
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Nelza is not yet back? Nelza,I have changed my TI4200 to Gecube 9550 Extreme.One more thing need to edit also,i am currently using Abit IC7-G not AI7.Thank,please help me to update in the first page.
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where to check the memory bandwidth? is this ?
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where to check the memory bandwidth? is this ?
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i thought everest is the same as sisoft sandra. Normally i bench memory bandwidth with sisoft. smile.gif
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i thought everest is the same as sisoft sandra. Normally i bench memory bandwidth with sisoft. smile.gif
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My Sandra didn`t work at all after i install it... @@ how come ..
double click it, didn`t response at all..
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 05:33 PM)
My Sandra didn`t work at all after i install it... @@ how come ..
double click it, didn`t response at all..
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what version are you using?last time when i tried to use the Pro edition same thing happened.so i just used the Lite edition which is free and works almost the same too laugh.gif
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what version are you using?last time when i tried to use the Pro edition same thing happened.so i just used the Lite edition which is free and works almost the same too  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:18 PM)
pro edition @@, last year i still can run this program..  cool2.gif  i still remember it.. but now dont know why cant already.. thx
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 05:33 PM)
My Sandra didn`t work at all after i install it... @@ how come ..
double click it, didn`t response at all..
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after reinstall still the same problem? i faced the problem before. sad.gif at last just install newer lite version now running fine

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My new Super PI 1M result. smile.gif
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after reinstall still the same problem? i faced the problem before. sad.gif at last just install newer lite version now running fine
wa........38s drool.gif  drool.gif , mission impossible for me.
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i see that Socket 478 is still living on strong

Version 3 already

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 23 2007, 08:32 AM)
after reinstall still the same problem? i faced the problem before. sad.gif at last just install newer lite version now running fine
wa........38s drool.gif drool.gif , mission impossible for me.
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dl a free version already, lite.. cool2.gif
so, how about my memory bandwidth ? 71% only blink.gif

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ya, after reinstall the problem still there..
dl a free version already, lite.. cool2.gif
so, how about my memory bandwidth ? 71% only blink.gif
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Its normal if u get 71% bandwidth efficiency, mine also same thing at 1:1
If you want higher, use 5:4 instead
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My new Super PI 1M result. smile.gif
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i'll update everything tonite notworthy.gif

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@MyCJS01
Is normal for the efficiency around 70+% region, perhaps you can try to tighten the ram timing to 2-3-3-5.
Since you are using Intel motherboard, no way you can overclock it. If not, you can try the one sofeware to alter the memory setting but i forgotten the name of it.

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a friend of mine got Gigabyte GA-81PE1000G, P4 1.5, 512MB DDR266, MSI GF5200 Seagate 80GB SATA HDD... I OC'd it to 1.7 and the timing i set to 2-2-3-7 but got slower windows loading... y is tat...? hmm.gif same case wif my current rig on my siggy if i go beyond 2.5... sad.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jan 23 2007, 05:08 PM)
a friend of mine got Gigabyte GA-81PE1000G, P4 1.5, 512MB DDR266, MSI GF5200 Seagate 80GB SATA HDD... I OC'd it to 1.7 and the timing i set to 2-2-3-7 but got slower windows loading... y is tat...? hmm.gif  same case wif my current rig on my siggy if i go beyond 2.5... sad.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 23 2007, 04:21 PM)
Its normal if u get 71% bandwidth efficiency, mine also same thing at 1:1
If you want higher, use 5:4 instead
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1:1 bandwidth lower ar? unsure.gif i thought 1:1 divider gives you better performance over 5:4? hmm.gif
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I got 75 - 76% in the Sandra testing using 1:1.. Tthis % is going to give huge effects on the whole system.I think the higher the memory bandwidth the better it does.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:49 AM)
Nelza is not yet back? Nelza,I have changed my TI4200 to Gecube 9550 Extreme.One more thing need to edit also,i am currently using Abit IC7-G not AI7.Thank,please help me to update in the first page.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 23 2007, 04:21 PM)
Its normal if u get 71% bandwidth efficiency, mine also same thing at 1:1
If you want higher, use 5:4 instead
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1:1 bandwidth lower ar? unsure.gif i thought 1:1 divider gives you better performance over 5:4? hmm.gif
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im back.. will update it tonite  notworthy.gif
yeah.. i tot 1:1 will give better performance rite? hmm.gif
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Thanks as need you to update the info. Well i am also thinking that the 1:1 will be giving the best performance in memory.I am doubt with the 5:4 divider.
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@MyCJS01
Is normal for the efficiency around 70+% region, perhaps you can try to tighten the ram timing to 2-3-3-5.
Since you are using Intel motherboard, no way you can overclock it. If not, you can try the one sofeware to alter the memory setting but i forgotten the name of it.

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systool ?
my ram is just Kingston KVR PCF normal chipset only, 2.5v..(default 3-3-3-8, but can set it to 2.5-3-3-6 manually) i think cant set the timings to 2-3-3-5..
and this intel mb, cant add voltage at all..
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Thanks as need you to update the info. Well i am also thinking that the 1:1 will be giving the best performance in memory.I am doubt with the 5:4 divider.
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divider can cause the system unstable is it ?
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divider can cause the system unstable is it ?
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Not to say like that but the divider is always the best that you can run on 1:1.This will make the proc and memory speed be synchronize.
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maybe 1:1 is too low as the processor is using 100fsb. higher ram speed may be better. i think by default it is 100:133(cpu:ram). if set to 1:1, try to push fsb to 133, 133*15=1995MHz just at the default ram speed of DDR266. smile.gif
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divider can cause the system unstable is it ?
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can oso

eg : if ur ram limit is 210Mhz, lets say u r running on 210x18 = 3.8Ghz
then u cannot use 4:5...it will make ur ram ram speed higher than 210Mhz. so 1:1 is the best.... highest fsb with highest ram speed rite? notworthy.gif
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I got one question that is blur about that.How to differentiate between the P4 "C" proc and a normal P4 HT proc? Since both of them also got the HT function on the processor there,it's hard to define them. I thought that all the procs that came with HT are P4 C not including the P4 "B" 3.06GHz with HT.
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Not necessary that 1:1 will give u the best in performance, it depends but most of the time 1:1 serves you best results. For C users, your RAM is the most important factor. B and A Prescott users no need to worry, best to use 1:1 instead.

For C users and E users, best example would be with BH-5/6 or UTT RAMs, they can't scale as high as the proc ( most of the case unless your CPU suck ) so ppl use 5:4 instead, performance wise in sandra, nearly the same with 300Mhz FSB 1:1 with TCCD due to the bandwidth efficiency.

Same with my case, my 5:4 bandwidth efficiency is better than my 1:1 so it depends smile.gif

raymond5105: HT procs started off with the P4B 3.06Ghz, after that all the C procs with HT are out. And what do you mean by normal HT proc? Those days the "C" is just to differentiate between non HT with HT as well as the 800(200)Mhz FSB with the 533(133)Mhz FSB. As for the rest of the specifications, B and C are the same.

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Yup, some RAMs don't like dividers. It can cause your system unable to boot or hang



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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 09:37 AM)
I got one question that is blur about that.How to differentiate between the P4 "C" proc and a normal P4 HT proc? Since both of them also got the HT function on the processor there,it's hard to define them. I thought that all the procs that came with HT are P4 C not including the P4 "B" 3.06GHz with HT.
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p4 c = northwood
p4 e = prescott

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 PM)
That's under Northwood core.You can see from attachment below.
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From the pic, the place where you highlighted, it is still considered under the C category, due to its being Northwood, 0.13micron, HT and with 200Mhz QDR FSB and 1.5V

Prescott onwards different already, 0.09micron, 1MB L2 cache, lower Vcore

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i think later p4'B' uses northwood core with 533fsb non HT. The 'C' is the northwood that with 800fsb with HT. Northwood only having 512kb L2.

E is prescott that features 800fsb with HT, the low end prescott with 533fsb, non HT is the p4'A'. Both A & E having 1mb of L2 cache.

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 24 2007, 07:33 PM)
From the pic, the place where you highlighted, it is still considered under the C category, due to its being Northwood, 0.13micron, HT and with 200Mhz QDR FSB and 1.5V

Prescott onwards different already, 0.09micron, 1MB L2 cache, lower Vcore
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Why they don't make those P4 800FSB HT under "C" ?Just little bit confuse with it.But i know that those P4 800FSB HT are called "C" type proc. The table might be confused up other poeple as some of them are not declared with "C" in the table.

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 24 2007, 07:59 PM)
i think later p4'B' uses northwood core with 533fsb non HT. The 'C' is the northwood that with 800fsb with HT. Northwood only having 512kb L2.

E is prescott that features 800fsb with HT, the low end prescott with 533fsb, non HT is the p4'A'. Both A & E having 1mb of L2 cache.

Just my 2 cent. tongue.gif
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You are worng.P4 A type got 2 versions. Earlier version is just having 512kb L2 (Northwood)with the later one is based on prescott which is having 1MB L2. biggrin.gif
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i know la.......the 1st old p4 is fsb100 with 512kb L2. tongue.gif damn.....miss that..laugh.gif

But eventhough it state like that, normally when sell p4 northwood with 800fsb & HT sure is 'C'. maybe that is for OEM?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 24 2007, 08:17 PM)
i know la.......the 1st old p4 is fsb100 with 512kb L2. tongue.gif damn.....miss that..laugh.gif

But eventhough it state like that, normally when sell p4 northwood with 800fsb & HT sure is 'C'. maybe that is for OEM?? tongue.gif
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The table i have atteched is confusing me. rclxub.gif Then conclusion is all the 800FSB proc with HT are categorized in " C " .

@ shinjite, the normal P4 HT proc i meant was pointing at the attachment that i posted,why is not P4 "C" ?

Regarding divider,i don't have experience on using the CH or BH chips but i know that those RAMs are good in overclocking. Bandwidth efficiently i think should be more or less the same with the Hynix chip right?
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 24 2007, 08:29 PM)
The table i have atteched is confusing me.  rclxub.gif  Then conclusion is all the 800FSB proc with HT are categorized in " C " .

@ shinjite, the normal P4 HT proc i meant was pointing at the attachment that i posted,why is not P4 "C" ?

Regarding divider,i don't have experience on using the CH or BH chips but i know that those RAMs are good in overclocking. Bandwidth efficiently i think should be more or less the same with the Hynix chip right?
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It might be OEM. OEM they don't state whether its "A", "B" or what not. BUT to avoid confusion, 200Mhz FSB QDR procs with HT 512KB L2 cache Northwood are C types smile.gif

about the memory, 5:4 and 1:1 at high speeds is nearly the same.....but it depends on the setup smile.gif
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im on Northwood and 800FSB

i guess that is "C" and it is class "C" smile.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 24 2007, 11:19 PM)
It might be OEM. OEM they don't state whether its "A", "B" or what not. BUT to avoid confusion, 200Mhz FSB QDR procs with HT 512KB L2 cache Northwood are C types smile.gif

about the memory, 5:4 and 1:1 at high speeds is nearly the same.....but it depends on the setup smile.gif
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Last nite i found that playing around the GAT setting on my board will also giving different bandwidth efficiency on Sandra. biggrin.gif Maybe can get some improvement from there using good settings.

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im on Northwood and 800FSB

i guess  that is "C" and it is class "C" smile.gif
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hey guys.. i need help here...
i bought Intel C2D E6600...
which mobo should i go for...???!
My budget is around Rm600...
Plz advice... i hope im in the right discussion...
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QUOTE(eastherd @ Jan 25 2007, 09:51 AM)
hey guys.. i need help here...
i bought Intel C2D E6600...
which mobo should i go for...???!
My budget is around Rm600...
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btw, RM600 is enuff for purchase a very good mobo, like Gigabyte-965P-DS3....
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any asus mobo for s478 still selling in lowyat anyone?
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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 25 2007, 10:35 AM)
found dis..my old benchie.. unsure.gif
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Nice result nelza,between now you are still using the S478?
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Best would be AAADD unless you play a bit by yourself smile.gif
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Now i am using the setting AAAAD,might try up the other settings also.You are using AAADD ?
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hey guys.. i need help here...
i bought Intel C2D E6600...
which mobo should i go for...???!
My budget is around Rm600...
Plz advice... i hope im in the right discussion...
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 25 2007, 12:48 PM)
Nice result nelza,between now you are still using the S478?

Now i am using the setting AAAAD,might try up the other settings also.You are using AAADD ?
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QUOTE(Godek @ Jan 25 2007, 12:21 PM)
any asus mobo for s478 still selling in lowyat anyone?
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I believe it is very difficult to find right now. So far i c from the price list in LYP, it just leave Biostar, Asrock, MSI still available in 478 mobo...
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QUOTE(Godek @ Jan 25 2007, 12:21 PM)
any asus mobo for s478 still selling in lowyat anyone?
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yeah there is..the Asus P4P800X smile.gif

btw guyz whats GAT? laugh.gif
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GAT if not wrong only available in abit mobo. Never use abit mobo before, dont know whats that. I think is something like additional tweak on memory, just like PAT in asus.
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basically GAT is PAT in Abit boards smile.gif
Tweaking the memory for better performance, sadly my RAM can't use PAT....sheesshh

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shinjite,i thought you are using the Aneneon RAM ? should be quite good in o/c right? Beside my new Super PI result. smile.gif


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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 26 2007, 08:24 AM)
shinjite,i thought you are using the Aneneon RAM ? should be quite good in o/c right? Beside my new Super PI result. smile.gif
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u r using hynix chipset rite? cannot go any further? btw..nice super PI there.. thumbup.gif
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@raymond5105
What the max speed other than 1:1?? like 5:4 how fast can it go? But as i know northwood's limit is up 4ghz, ever try to push near that limit?

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i saw you have a "FEMALE" tag. shocking.gif i thought you are a guy. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 26 2007, 08:24 AM)
shinjite,i thought you are using the Aneneon RAM ? should be quite good in o/c right? Beside my new Super PI result. smile.gif
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Yeah using Aeneon RAM, not as overclockable in Intel systems or maybe not as good used with my board. Can't enable PAT, iw on't boot. Can't go high FSB even with the loosest of timings, sure errors in memtest. Can't even do 5:4 also over 200Mhz, it won't boot. Sigh..... sad.gif

kabukawie : D43s doens't like 5:4 base on my experience. Best is to do 1:1 and his FSB is till 229Mhz only, if 5:4, it'll hamper the ram performance greatly. About his speed, he still can go higher if he wants to, just need to increase voltage, but remember, the Abit board will flunctuate smile.gif
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@ raymond..
u r using hynix chipset rite? cannot go any further? btw..nice super PI there.. thumbup.gif
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Yes it's a Hynix Chipset,BT-D43. Sometimes i can't get stable in 230MHz in running Super PI.I don't know what's wrong with that.Maybe the RAM is hitting the limit already. So sad. I have tried on the loose timing 3-4-4-8 and it's do sometimes run the Super PI half way then stop already. sad.gif

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@raymond5105
What the max speed other than 1:1?? like 5:4 how fast can it go? But as i know northwood's limit is up 4ghz, ever try to push near that limit?

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I didn't try on 5:4 division since i know that the optimized setting for my proc is at 1:1. Northwood will be max out at 4GHz. biggrin.gif If i set 250MHz using 5:4 divider then will be exactly 4GHz. drool.gif
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I htink your D43 at 250Mhz should be okay
Just that whether your proc can follow or not XD


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I htink your D43 at 250Mhz should be okay
Just that whether your proc can follow or not XD
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Like that i am sure sure about this already.Mine is BT not DT. DT can easily hit 250MHz.Normally BT should be around 230MHz like that.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 25 2007, 10:48 PM)
GAT if not wrong only available in abit mobo. Never use abit mobo before, dont know whats that. I think is something like additional tweak on memory, just like PAT in asus.
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 25 2007, 11:28 PM)
basically GAT is PAT in Abit boards smile.gif
Tweaking the memory for better performance, sadly my RAM can't use PAT....sheesshh
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oh okay...erm.dumb question here but whats PAT laugh.gif i know my asus mobo has it but im not sure what is it for or how to enable it laugh.gif blush.gif
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PAT = Performace acceleration technology
About your ASUS board, I am not sure myself as I didn't play with ASUS boards

raymod5105 : You're wrong, BT can achieve high FSB at loose timings, some hand pick ones can even do 250Mhz 1:1 with 2.5/3/3/x. The later revisions like DT can get high speeds at tighter timings. Maybe your batch doens't oc well.....

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 26 2007, 03:26 PM)
Like that i am sure sure about this already.Mine is BT not DT. DT can easily hit 250MHz.Normally BT should be around 230MHz like that.
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erk..most BT oso can hit 250mhz at loose timing..

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 26 2007, 02:09 PM)
Yeah using Aeneon RAM, not as overclockable in Intel systems or maybe not as good used with my board. Can't enable PAT, iw on't boot. Can't go high FSB even with the loosest of timings, sure errors in memtest. Can't even do 5:4 also over 200Mhz, it won't boot. Sigh..... sad.gif

kabukawie : D43s doens't like 5:4 base on my experience. Best is to do 1:1 and his FSB is till 229Mhz only, if 5:4, it'll hamper the ram performance greatly. About his speed, he still can go higher if he wants to, just need to increase voltage, but remember, the Abit board will flunctuate smile.gif
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i see, i just know that Abit board will flunctuate the voltage when increase. tongue.gif

QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 26 2007, 04:17 PM)
oh okay...erm.dumb question here but whats PAT  laugh.gif i know my asus mobo has it but im not sure what is it for or how to enable it  laugh.gif  blush.gif
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like what shinjite said, it is a memory tweak that boost more performance. I found out that it come along with dual channel from my experience. I tried to disable it and i cant run dual channel, sandra memory bandwidth score is drop alot. Google for more detail on PAT if want detail explanation. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 26 2007, 06:09 PM)
PAT = Performace acceleration technology
About your ASUS board, I am not sure myself as I didn't play with ASUS boards

raymod5105 : You're wrong, BT can achieve high FSB at loose timings, some hand pick ones can even do 250Mhz 1:1 with 2.5/3/3/x. The later revisions like DT can get high speeds at tighter timings. Maybe your batch doens't oc well.....
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i see, i just know that Abit board will flunctuate the voltage when increase. tongue.gif
like what shinjite said, it is a memory tweak that boost more performance. I found out that it come along with dual channel from my experience. I tried to disable it and i cant run dual channel, sandra memory bandwidth score is drop alot. Google for more detail on PAT if want detail explanation. icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh okay..last time i did try to search on PAT but i dint know what does it stands for so i dint get any revelant results laugh.gif

off topic : just applied arctic ceramique on my hsf,northbridge heatsink and gpu hsf laugh.gif so far im getting 33c on mobo & 34c on proc hmm.gif it seems to be fluctuating alittle.34c then 35c then 36c then back again laugh.gif
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So far I only applied thermal paste on my CPU. GPU and NB didn't even bother...LOLZ
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haha....i dun even have artic ceramique. gpu i have try but dunno the temp. northbridge never take off before. Lazy to take off. Even HFS i also lazy to take off when clean the dust. lolx
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laugh.gif it took me about 1 hour+ to take out all the heatsinks,clean them and apply ceramique laugh.gif just applied ceramique to my 6800GS also..waiting for my fma to come back so i can check the temps biggrin.gif
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have to wait your fma to check the temp??
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PAT = Performace acceleration technology
About your ASUS board, I am not sure myself as I didn't play with ASUS boards

raymod5105 : You're wrong, BT can achieve high FSB at loose timings, some hand pick ones can even do 250Mhz 1:1 with 2.5/3/3/x. The later revisions like DT can get high speeds at tighter timings. Maybe your batch doens't oc well.....
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This morning i was successfully increased my RAM to 232MHz using 1:1 divider. Super PI 1M is about 37.8s. brows.gif Damn happy with it. I will post the screeny by Monday since now i am at cc.
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wao, thats impressive drool.gif. is it stable running 232sb on normal computing? Ever stress it??
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RAM should be okay ler, CPU if not stable mah increase Vcore a bit lo
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wao, thats impressive drool.gif. is it stable running 232sb on normal computing? Ever stress it??
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 27 2007, 04:21 PM)
RAM should be okay ler, CPU if not stable mah increase Vcore a bit lo
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Hi guy,coming back again.Now can online at home already. rclxm9.gif My Spuer PI at 233MHz .I think my cpu using default vcore would be around this speed.My RAM also i think not leaving much headroom to go higher already.


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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 27 2007, 06:44 PM)
Hi guy,coming back again.Now can online at home already. rclxm9.gif My Spuer PI at 233MHz .I think my cpu using default vcore would be around this speed.My RAM also i think not leaving much headroom to go higher already.
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wahhhh..impressive!!
i think sumday my superPI result oso will be kick off by you.. sweat.gif
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wahhhh..impressive!!
i think sumday my superPI result oso will be kick off by you.. sweat.gif
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Hehe nelza won't la.You are consider very high-end in o/c already.Mine one is just a peanut. blush.gif Beside maybe if i am using high performance RAM then will be able to get better results. tongue.gif Besides,nelza still haven't update the informations in the first page? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 27 2007, 07:42 PM)
Hehe nelza won't la.You are consider very high-end in o/c already.Mine one is just a peanut. blush.gif Beside maybe if i am using high performance RAM then will be able to get better results. tongue.gif Besides,nelza still haven't update the informations in the first page? biggrin.gif
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tongue.gif i hav been super bz dis week.. my registeration week.. damn..
seriously ill updated when i hav a free time notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 27 2007, 01:15 PM)
have to wait your fma to check the temp??
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cuz now my cap ayam psu cant support the power requirements of my 6800GS doh.gif can lah but then i wont be able to oc my pc edi laugh.gif now also damn busy lazy to oc my comp laugh.gif


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nice results man thumbup.gif u never up vcore also can push that much thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 27 2007, 06:44 PM)
Hi guy,coming back again.Now can online at home already. rclxm9.gif My Spuer PI at 233MHz .I think my cpu using default vcore would be around this speed.My RAM also i think not leaving much headroom to go higher already.
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OMG... didnt check this thread for sometime. your speed thrashed my p4 easily. hahaha.. i think i should consider to sell my processor.

anyway very nice OC. respect.
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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 27 2007, 08:05 PM)
tongue.gif  i hav been super bz dis week.. my registeration week.. damn..
seriously ill updated when i hav a free time  notworthy.gif
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Oh,MMU right?Goodluck for your registration.Hope you can get the time table you want. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 27 2007, 08:46 PM)
cuz now my cap ayam psu cant support the power requirements of my 6800GS doh.gif can lah but then i wont be able to oc my pc edi  laugh.gif now also damn busy lazy to oc my comp  laugh.gif
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nice results man  thumbup.gif u never up vcore also can push that much  thumbup.gif
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SOlute you as you got an 6800GS.I'm just using 9550XT. wink.gif When is your FMA coming back?Ya,i am using default Vcore.I feel like the proc running at default Vcore almost going to hit its' limit.

QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 27 2007, 09:04 PM)
OMG... didnt check this thread for sometime. your speed thrashed my p4 easily. hahaha.. i think i should consider to sell my processor.

anyway very nice OC. respect.
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Wao going to let go your processor? brows.gif brows.gif Seriously? tongue.gif You can try to run on 1:1 divider to acheive the best peroformance since yours is also an 800FSB proc. thumbup.gif
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i got my 6800GS at a steal laugh.gif my FMA should return by the end of this month sweat.gif

stock vcore also can get such good scores and freqs like that if push higher sure can reach 4Ghz laugh.gif laugh.gif
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wahhhh..impressive!!
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If he can reach at 4 Ghz XD
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 28 2007, 12:38 AM)
If he can reach at 4 Ghz XD
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you might be right.....but I think 3.9Ghz still not enough to overthrow you, might be on par
okay, tell u guys, wanna shave off some time, close off all unnecessary processes including ur explorer.exe and your wallpaper and do the benchmark smile.gif

A lot of differences.....I think with that raymond5105 can get 37 seconds flat

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 27 2007, 09:37 PM)
Oh,MMU right?Goodluck for your registration.Hope you can get the time table you want. biggrin.gif
SOlute you as you got an 6800GS.I'm just using 9550XT. wink.gif When is your FMA coming back?Ya,i am using default Vcore.I feel like the proc running at default Vcore almost going to hit its' limit.
Wao going to let go your processor? brows.gif  brows.gif Seriously? tongue.gif  You can try to run on 1:1 divider to acheive the best peroformance since yours is also an 800FSB proc. thumbup.gif
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still considering that since my current processor cant oc well probably due to its high multipler, considering to get a prescott 3.0 smile.gif

i am running at 3.82ghz, 1:1, 2 3 2 5. my processor max fsb only 229. sigh sad.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 28 2007, 02:45 AM)
you might be right.....but I think 3.9Ghz still not enough to overthrow you, might be on par
okay, tell u guys, wanna shave off some time, close off all unnecessary processes including ur explorer.exe and your wallpaper and do the benchmark smile.gif

A lot of differences.....I think with that raymond5105 can get 37 seconds flat
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Wao i haven't try this before. brows.gif Good idea man.Maybe will try it when i am free. Now i am running on 230MHz only.Afraid over stress the proc. sweat.gif

QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 28 2007, 03:49 AM)
still considering that since my current processor cant oc well probably due to its high multipler, considering to get a prescott 3.0 smile.gif

i am running at 3.82ghz, 1:1, 2 3 2 5. my processor max fsb only 229. sigh sad.gif
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Hehe,consider to sell your proc or not? brows.gif I still have a S478 mobo with me.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 28 2007, 08:27 AM)
Wao i haven't try this before. brows.gif  Good idea man.Maybe will try it when i am free. Now i am running on 230MHz only.Afraid over stress the proc. sweat.gif
Hehe,consider to sell your proc or not? brows.gif I still have a S478 mobo with me.
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i already recieved an offer to trade my 3.4c. still considering and reading up more article to find what is holding my OC. mobo or processor?
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solute you. Why dont you try to up the vcore a bit? it need more juice to gp higher. smile.gif i wondering how many 478 you have? biggrin.gif

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4GHz for northwood is a bit hard. is the chip itself reach the limit. i may consider prescott 3.0GHz.

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want to let go your 3.4c?
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i already recieved an offer to trade my 3.4c. still considering and reading up more article to find what is holding my OC. mobo or processor?
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I think u need more tweaking on your mobo.Just like the PAT settings on your mobo.I am using AAADD setting now.

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solute you. Why dont you try to up the vcore a bit? it need more juice to gp higher. smile.gif i wondering how many 478 you have? biggrin.gif

@prngster
4GHz for northwood is a bit hard. is the chip itself reach the limit. i may consider prescott 3.0GHz.

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want to let go your 3.4c?
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I have 2 S478 systems usign now. Got one more AI7 lying idle. blush.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 28 2007, 11:35 AM)
I think u need more tweaking on your mobo.Just like the PAT settings on your mobo.I am using AAADD setting now.
I have 2 S478 systems usign now. Got one more AI7 lying idle. blush.gif
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I don't mind using your AI7...I need that XD
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solute you. Why dont you try to up the vcore a bit? it need more juice to gp higher. smile.gif i wondering how many 478 you have? biggrin.gif

@prngster
4GHz for northwood is a bit hard. is the chip itself reach the limit. i may consider prescott 3.0GHz.

@irangan
want to let go your 3.4c?
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 28 2007, 11:35 AM)
I think u need more tweaking on your mobo.Just like the PAT settings on your mobo.I am using AAADD setting now.
I have 2 S478 systems usign now. Got one more AI7 lying idle. blush.gif
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i dont know how to tweak with PAT and those setting. btw i cant find those setting that you mentioned in bios
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get a prescott, it can score more than 4ghz.haha.... but watch out the temp....can fried the egg when oc tongue.gif

the PAT setting is define differently in different manufacturer, maybe you can refer to your mobo manual. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 28 2007, 04:23 PM)
get a prescott, it can score more than 4ghz.haha.... but watch out the temp....can fried the egg when oc tongue.gif

the PAT setting is define differently in different manufacturer, maybe you can refer to your mobo manual. smile.gif
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Wao so many ppl wanna get the AI7. I am still considering want to swap the mobo with my P4P800-X or not. sweat.gif When i am going to sell will notify you all.
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Wow, y both of ur CPU and HD so hot de.... izit the full load temperature for the CPU? sweat.gif
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yeahh..
the hdd act, since i bought it... the temp is like dat..
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Idle temp is so high? sweat.gif sweat.gif Need very very got cooling device if you need to go 4GHz. Last time you were using Hyper 6 also?
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Idle temp is so high? sweat.gif  sweat.gif  Need very very got cooling device if you need to go 4GHz. Last time you were using Hyper 6 also?
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idle around 50-51..
60-63 when full load @ 3.9 @ default vcore.. but, the temp..can consider high edi.. sweat.gif
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Greetings all 478er'

I'm using stock cooling for my Soc 478 3.0 (details as per my siggy).

This afternoon after finished playing my NFS Carbon, i opened my Abit EQ and was shocked. Temp was 97C rclxub.gif, so I let it idle for a while but temp still remain at 96C rclxub.gif Does anyone have this kind of prob before ?

Pls not tat system was stock and totally no oc. another thing, when u start the system and check on Abit EQ immediately, temp is 57C-60C izzit normal ?

Do i need to chance to 3rd party HSF, any recommendation ? or if anyone wanna sell theirs can PM me. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Greetings all 478er'

I'm using stock cooling for my Soc 478 3.0 (details as per my siggy).

This afternoon after finished playing my NFS Carbon, i opened my Abit EQ and was shocked. Temp was 97C rclxub.gif, so I let it idle for a while but temp still remain at 96C rclxub.gif Does anyone have this kind of prob before ?

Pls not tat system was stock and totally no oc. another thing, when u start the system and check on Abit EQ immediately, temp is 57C-60C izzit normal ?

Do i need to chance to 3rd party HSF, any recommendation ? or if anyone wanna sell theirs can PM me.  icon_rolleyes.gif

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97 degree C? shocking.gif shocking.gif Won't causing restart?

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QUOTE(ekestima @ Jan 28 2007, 08:32 PM)
Greetings all 478er'

I'm using stock cooling for my Soc 478 3.0 (details as per my siggy).

This afternoon after finished playing my NFS Carbon, i opened my Abit EQ and was shocked. Temp was 97C rclxub.gif, so I let it idle for a while but temp still remain at 96C rclxub.gif Does anyone have this kind of prob before ?

Pls not tat system was stock and totally no oc. another thing, when u start the system and check on Abit EQ immediately, temp is 57C-60C izzit normal ?

Do i need to chance to 3rd party HSF, any recommendation ? or if anyone wanna sell theirs can PM me.  icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Jan 28 2007, 05:28 PM)
yeah..u r rite..
mine.... im using hyper6 now.. sweat.gif
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wao...62'C on hyper 6?? sweat.gif

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i cant believe it......too impresive!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif i think is on extreme cooling in order to get 5GHz. Really hope that my stepping is E0. cry.gif
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Where to get new S478 Motherboard now?

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QUOTE(ekestima @ Jan 28 2007, 08:32 PM)
Greetings all 478er'

I'm using stock cooling for my Soc 478 3.0 (details as per my siggy).

This afternoon after finished playing my NFS Carbon, i opened my Abit EQ and was shocked. Temp was 97C rclxub.gif, so I let it idle for a while but temp still remain at 96C rclxub.gif Does anyone have this kind of prob before ?

Pls not tat system was stock and totally no oc. another thing, when u start the system and check on Abit EQ immediately, temp is 57C-60C izzit normal ?

Do i need to chance to 3rd party HSF, any recommendation ? or if anyone wanna sell theirs can PM me.  icon_rolleyes.gif

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I don't think that's possible. The processor gets restarted whenever temperature reaches 80 C. Processors don't go up to 57C - 60C without load.

Something's definitely wrong with your temperature sensor.
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anyone any suggestion on replacement of intel original fan which is extreamly noisy. ?

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anyone any suggestion on replacement of intel original fan which is extreamly noisy. ?
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QUOTE(ekestima @ Jan 28 2007, 08:32 PM)
Greetings all 478er'

I'm using stock cooling for my Soc 478 3.0 (details as per my siggy).

This afternoon after finished playing my NFS Carbon, i opened my Abit EQ and was shocked. Temp was 97C rclxub.gif, so I let it idle for a while but temp still remain at 96C rclxub.gif Does anyone have this kind of prob before ?

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at stock with 97C??? shocking.gif shocking.gif i think over 80C already hang or restart the computer. Is the reading not correct?? maybe you can try touch the heatsink with your finger, if you cant ly your finger on it for 5seconds, then its time for you to get a better HFS.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 28 2007, 11:13 PM)
at stock with 97C???  shocking.gif  shocking.gif i think over 80C already hang or restart the computer. Is the reading not correct?? maybe you can try touch the heatsink with your finger, if you cant ly your finger on it for 5seconds, then its time for you to get a better HFS.
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I think not all mobo can support this feature, some mobo still can operating at high temp but some will automatic restart or shut down directly...
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but if the reading is correct, then cpu should be throttle at that temp.
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When i chk Abit EQ on CPU temp setting, max temp is 80C.
on restart, tat's d funny thing, system is still stable even at 97C.

like nezla_ax & wishbone said, might be bug in abit eq. bty anyone got any suggestion which software is better to monitor the system ?

used my finger to test the hsf, but hsf doesnt feels very hot, only normal (touchable). unfortunately my last finger got hit by the xtra 120mm fan, now blue black, luckily didnt break / cut off my finger.
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Ouch, sorry for that. tongue.gif if the temp is not so hot, i think is the reading problem. ever try to flash the bios?? maybe newer bios will give a accurate reading. I think most software temp monitor the temp from the reading of bios, so if bios temp is high, software reads high also. Just my 2 cents.
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Tot i saw one thread about 478ers stating their proc type & speed, cpu cooler type, mobo, gc atc.

can some1 pls provide link to tat coz its good reference for ppl like me to c which cpu cooler to buy ba. Thx
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@ekestima ,IS7-E loading for so high temperature is preety impossible,even a prescott core also not going for so hot.What version of bios is your IS7-E using?
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QUOTE(kwangz @ Jan 28 2007, 10:06 PM)
anyone any suggestion on replacement of intel original fan which is extreamly noisy. ?
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get those great performing coolers like Noctuas or Thermalright Ultra120 brows.gif

QUOTE(ekestima @ Jan 29 2007, 09:55 AM)
When i chk Abit EQ on CPU temp setting, max temp is 80C.
on restart, tat's d funny thing, system is still stable even at 97C.

like nezla_ax & wishbone said, might be bug in abit eq. bty anyone got any suggestion which software is better to monitor the system ?

used my finger to test the hsf, but hsf doesnt feels very hot, only normal (touchable). unfortunately my last finger got hit by the xtra 120mm fan, now blue black, luckily didnt break / cut off my finger.
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why not try to use speedfan or everest home/ultimate edition to monitor ur temps?97c can almost boil water already lor..or a good way to know if its really 97c,just touch the mobo laugh.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:03 PM)
@ekestima ,IS7-E loading for so high temperature is preety impossible,even a prescott core also not going for so hot.What version of bios is your IS7-E using?
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I think could be system bug. Tried again but manage to get 43C idle and 56C load.

like u said i think need t chk bios.
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43C idle, 56C load is more acceptable. haha....like Pengster said, Get Noctua from irangan or get TR Ultra120 from ShawTy. biggrin.gif

Make sure your casing airflow is good enough. Bad airflow easilly rise up the cpu temp.
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wahlao.running disk defragmenter,disk cleanup,speedfan and firefox = 100% cpu usage sweat.gif no background apps except antivirus somemore.

time to change my rig laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 29 2007, 09:08 PM)
wahlao.running disk defragmenter,disk cleanup,speedfan and firefox = 100% cpu usage sweat.gif no background apps except antivirus somemore.

time to change my rig laugh.gif
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Got spyware in your computer?Just running on those applications can reach 100% ?
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now im running everything at stock..cuz if i oc then auto restart <.<

dont think there's any spyware lor..no noticable symptoms lah. laugh.gif
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go to task manager and have a look on suspecious processes. As i know, disk cleanup quite resource hungry. tongue.gif never run that after fresh install since last year June. i use CCleaner, fast and efficient. Pengster, now you cant oc at all? I thought you are running at 2.7GHz.
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hola rclxm9.gif ....my second rig

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hola rclxm9.gif ....my second rig

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Welcome to this thread.Later Nelza will add you in the list.Using 2.4C .Nice proc to make o/c man.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 30 2007, 10:07 AM)
go to task manager and have a look on suspecious processes. As i know, disk cleanup quite resource hungry. tongue.gif never run that after fresh install since last year June. i use CCleaner, fast and efficient. Pengster, now you cant oc at all? I thought you are running at 2.7GHz.
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hola rclxm9.gif ....my second rig

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finish a'dy my registertion week..........icon_rolleyes.gif
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yup,i will be oc'ing it... brows.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Jan 30 2007, 10:07 AM)
go to task manager and have a look on suspecious processes. As i know, disk cleanup quite resource hungry. tongue.gif never run that after fresh install since last year June. i use CCleaner, fast and efficient. Pengster, now you cant oc at all? I thought you are running at 2.7GHz.
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hmm..im not very sure myself..looks like there's a few suspicious ones but not sure what exactly is it laugh.gif

yeah i cant oc now sad.gif even with my old 9550.tried to oc to 2.52ghz and my pc will give me random reboots doh.gif
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QUOTE(ekestima @ Jan 28 2007, 08:32 PM)
Greetings all 478er'

I'm using stock cooling for my Soc 478 3.0 (details as per my siggy).

This afternoon after finished playing my NFS Carbon, i opened my Abit EQ and was shocked. Temp was 97C rclxub.gif, so I let it idle for a while but temp still remain at 96C rclxub.gif Does anyone have this kind of prob before ?

Pls not tat system was stock and totally no oc. another thing, when u start the system and check on Abit EQ immediately, temp is 57C-60C izzit normal ?

Do i need to chance to 3rd party HSF, any recommendation ? or if anyone wanna sell theirs can PM me.  icon_rolleyes.gif

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naaa... abit EQ is sux!
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Abit EQ always report higher temperature in its' program.Even i think you got a TR on it,i think the temperature still cannot goes below 40 degree celcius.
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 30 2007, 06:12 PM)
hmm..im not very sure myself..looks like there's a few suspicious ones but not sure what exactly is it  laugh.gif

yeah i cant oc now  sad.gif even with my old 9550.tried to oc to 2.52ghz and my pc will give me random reboots  doh.gif
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naaa... abit EQ is sux!
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hahhaa... MBM or speedfan also better than that. hahaha.
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Welcome to this thread.Later Nelza will add you in the list.Using 2.4C .Nice proc to make o/c man.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 30 2007, 11:04 PM)
hahhaa... MBM or speedfan also better than that. hahaha.
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i wish i have a 'C' proc.....haha
wao.... another fried egg temp. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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too bad the wish required $$...wahaha tongue.gif actually i have stop my invest on my rig already, its really no point to dump $ on a old tech. Anyway, i love s478. smile.gif



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too bad the wish required $$...wahaha tongue.gif actually i have stop my invest on my rig already, its really no point to dump $ on a old tech. Anyway, i love s478. smile.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 30 2007, 11:04 PM)
i think wait for your PSU back from RMA first then try again.
hahhaa... MBM or speedfan also better than that. hahaha.
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yeah no choice but to wait sad.gif suppose to be back by now,dunno what happened already doh.gif

hoping to reach minimum 3Ghz.now my system damn slow lahh cry.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jan 31 2007, 09:34 PM)
Yup actually our rig is a bit old already,i also felt that not really worth to upgrading them already. Somehow i still feel that those HT systems are really enough for me already as i am not really a hardcore gamer. tongue.gif
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agreed with you, nowadays i read the new game requirements or new hardware or even new software like windows vista, really can feel that my rig is full of grey hair already. haha..... your HT system using P4 consider quite powerful already. My low profile HT system that running in my living room is using Duron 1GHz, 256MB ram, 40GB HDD, DVDROM, GeForce 4MX 440. Just use it as DVD player and DiVX player biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 31 2007, 09:48 PM)
yeah no choice but to wait  sad.gif suppose to be back by now,dunno what happened already  doh.gif

hoping to reach minimum 3Ghz.now my system damn slow lahh cry.gif
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RMA psu need to take that long?? omg! ever try ask for the progress?

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at least some of your rigs have HyperThreading tech not so bad.. laugh.gif still boleh tahan for maybe another year laugh.gif

the rma process damn ghey lah.first send to OP took 2months then come back but not working.then send to vertex and now its been a month sleep.gif
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HyperThreading?? hahaha.........i really wish that......

mine just have the advantage of 1mb L2 cache if compare with p4 'B', no HT, 533fsb. Thats why i said i wish to have a 'C' that feature 800fsb and HT. tongue.gif
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my prescott dont have HT...cry.gif but if i can choose, i rather get 3.0E, hehe....
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wat tis about?
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QUOTE(pengster @ Jan 31 2007, 11:09 PM)
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the question is are you willing to stand the heat those lil ovens are gonna emit?
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proper cooling is a must if really want to oc prescott. as long as the temp is under control, prescott is a nice gem. thumbup.gif
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yeah at least with HT there's another virtual core,am i right? laugh.gif me myself also feel tempted to change to a 1MB cache 800fsb + HT tech proc laugh.gif instead of upgrading the whole system whistling.gif
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my prescott dont have HT...cry.gif but if i can choose, i rather get 3.0E, hehe....
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 1 2007, 10:44 AM)
Yes a HT core is really better than the one which doesn't have.HT makes you feel less lagging while doing applications and gaming.
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 1 2007, 09:28 AM)
hmm.gif i dont understand what you want to ask about.
proper cooling is a must if really want to oc prescott. as long as the temp is under control, prescott is a nice gem.  thumbup.gif
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yeah lah..good cooling is a must for a prescott proc laugh.gif stock hsf sure die 1 lah..esp if u OC it laugh.gif unless maybe u lap the heatsink to a mirror finish + AS5 brows.gif

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 1 2007, 10:44 AM)
Yes a HT core is really better than the one which doesn't have.HT makes you feel less lagging while doing applications and gaming.
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its like a 1.25 or 1.5 core proc laugh.gif at least can multitask better lah
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i dont dare to lap cpu. haha....

many program doesnt support HT, but run multiple program uses HT. At least when ripping dvd or compressing files wont hog all resources. smile.gif

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nelza, plzz add me in the list:

P4 3.2E HT @ stock (Artic freezer4)
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9200se (downgraded from x850xt already sweat.gif )

temp kinda hot at stock.its just ok la since it is prescott... bruce.gif

edit:typo

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3.2E.......not bad smile.gif cant your freezer4 cool down the temp even at stock??
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Feb 1 2007, 02:59 PM)
most applications doens't support multithreading, thats why XD
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 1 2007, 08:08 PM)
i dont dare to lap cpu. haha....

many program doesnt support HT, but run multiple program uses HT. At least when ripping dvd or compressing files wont hog all resources. smile.gif
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Tot i saw one thread about 478ers stating their proc type & speed, cpu cooler type, mobo, gc atc.

can some1 pls provide link to tat coz its good reference for ppl like me to c which cpu cooler to buy ba. Thx
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BTY any1 know how's d performance for CM Hyper 48 ? can give any comment ? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 1 2007, 11:54 PM)
nelza, plzz add me in the list:

P4 3.2E HT @ stock (Artic freezer4)
Intel 865Perl mobo
9200se (downgraded from x850xt already  sweat.gif )

temp kinda hot at stock.its just ok la since it is prescott... bruce.gif

edit:typo
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 1 2007, 11:54 PM)
nelza, plzz add me in the list:

P4 3.2E HT @ stock (Artic freezer4)
Intel 865Perl mobo
9200se (downgraded from x850xt already  sweat.gif )

temp kinda hot at stock.its just ok la since it is prescott... bruce.gif

edit:typo
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 2 2007, 08:28 AM)
3.2E.......not bad smile.gif cant your freezer4 cool down the temp even at stock??
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the temp is kinda hot la, but normal for prescott i think..
mine idle 50-52c and full load around 56-57c... sweat.gif

i tested my freezer4 ability by oc my friends proc 2.4c to 3.0ghz.temp not exceed 48c.but when pairing with my proc, it's really hot la.but compared to stock heatsink this one totally silent.... cool.gif

last time i modd my freezer, adding additional fan (pull n push configuration), manage to decrease the temp around 5c... smile.gif

edit:typo

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QUOTE(ekestima @ Feb 2 2007, 10:23 AM)
Still no 1 can find the link ka ? sweat.gif 

BTY any1 know how's d performance for CM Hyper 48 ? can give any comment ? icon_rolleyes.gif
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do you mean this Thread? laugh.gif

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 2 2007, 02:31 PM)
the temp is kinda hot la, but normal for prescott i think..
mine idle 50-52c and full load around 56-57c... sweat.gif

i tested my freezer4 ability by oc my friends proc 2.4c to 3.0ghz.temp not exceed 48c.but when pairing with my proc, it's really hot la.but compared to stock heatsink this one totally silent.... cool.gif

last time i modd my freezer, adding additional fan (pull n push configuration), manage to decrease the temp around 5c... smile.gif

edit:typo
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that should be normal for prescott laugh.gif now my northwood also idle temps around 37c and load at 48c at 2.7-2.8Ghz smile.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 2 2007, 02:31 PM)
the temp is kinda hot la, but normal for prescott i think..
mine idle 50-52c and full load around 56-57c... sweat.gif

i tested my freezer4 ability by oc my friends proc 2.4c to 3.0ghz.temp not exceed 48c.but when pairing with my proc, it's really hot la.but compared to stock heatsink this one totally silent.... cool.gif

last time i modd my freezer, adding additional fan (pull n push configuration), manage to decrease the temp around 5c... smile.gif

edit:typo
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decrease 5C is alot. smile.gif now still using that configuration?
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 2 2007, 02:31 PM)
the temp is kinda hot la, but normal for prescott i think..
mine idle 50-52c and full load around 56-57c... sweat.gif

i tested my freezer4 ability by oc my friends proc 2.4c to 3.0ghz.temp not exceed 48c.but when pairing with my proc, it's really hot la.but compared to stock heatsink this one totally silent.... cool.gif

last time i modd my freezer, adding additional fan (pull n push configuration), manage to decrease the temp around 5c... smile.gif

edit:typo
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my previous prescott 2.4, idle temp at around 43-45C, full load will be 61C, sometimes can go idle at 39C...
So mayb u can try to reapply the thermal compound then give u a lower temp. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 2 2007, 02:45 PM)
decrease 5C is alot. smile.gif now still using that configuration?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 2 2007, 04:17 PM)
my previous prescott 2.4, idle temp at around 43-45C, full load will be 61C, sometimes can go idle at 39C...
So mayb u can try to reapply the thermal compound then give u a lower temp.
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my previous 2.8A prescott the temp while idle also around that.but in full load, only around 55c.must be becoz of my freezer... biggrin.gif already applied new AS5 last weekend.maybe this is just becoz mine got higher clock..
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my P4E 3.0 prescott idle about 42c - 44c, full load about 65c .. using a cm vortex dream hsf.. (using a intel brand mb)

before this mb, using a albatron mb, idle always show me 52c-55c, full load about 72c.. dont know what happen is this..
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I need a bit help.My motherboard spoil and it's soket 478 Intel 865PE asus motherboard.

I would like to ask , where can I find soket 478 Intel 865PE at lowyat plaza ? There are a lot of shops I went there and mos of them said they didn't sell it already.Any brand also can , but it's good if I find back the same motherboard Asus chipset.
Which shop selling it ?
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hmm i bought my Asus P4P800X last year end from Czone.have you checked shops like cycom,viewnet,sri etc?if im not mistaken they still have various brands of s478 mobos like msi,biostar or asrock biggrin.gif
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s478 mobo is almost an antique nowadays. Or you can try your luck at garage section. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Feb 2 2007, 09:12 PM)
hmm i bought my Asus P4P800X last year end from Czone.have you checked shops like cycom,viewnet,sri etc?if im not mistaken they still have various brands of s478 mobos like msi,biostar or asrock biggrin.gif
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Mine is 865PE......

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 2 2007, 11:01 PM)
s478 mobo is almost an antique nowadays. Or you can try your luck at garage section. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I hope i can find it , i reallydon't have money to change my whole computer ..
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 2 2007, 11:05 PM)
Mine is 865PE......
I hope i can find it , i reallydon't have money to change my whole computer ..
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Asus P4P800X is using 865PE chipset. thumbup.gif

Btw, i jus refer to the latest price list for C-Zone and Cycom, thr are no more Asus socket 478 mobo for sell...
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I saw overclockalbert is selling his MAX-3 in garage sale.RM280 . brows.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 3 2007, 10:35 AM)
I saw overclockalbert is selling his MAX-3 in garage sale.RM280 .  brows.gif
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yeah, great oc-ability mobo.... wub.gif rclxms.gif

but wish i have money right now... doh.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 3 2007, 12:03 AM)
Asus P4P800X is using 865PE chipset. thumbup.gif

Btw, i jus refer to the latest price list for C-Zone and Cycom, thr are no more Asus socket 478 mobo for sell...
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I though of going there to ask.

QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 3 2007, 10:35 AM)
I saw overclockalbert is selling his MAX-3 in garage sale.RM280 .  brows.gif
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Max-3 ???


I'd like to ask normally soket 478 asus can be guarantee for how long ? 2 years or 3 years ?
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 3 2007, 01:41 PM)
I though of going there to ask.
Max-3 ???
I'd like to ask normally soket 478 asus can be guarantee for how long ? 2 years or 3 years ?
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if you want to get a s478 mobo from lyp u better hurry cuz stocks are hard to find smile.gif

max3 is abit's s478 mobo if im not mistaken.a very good board. laugh.gif

my Asus P4P800X warranty only 1 year shop warranty sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Feb 3 2007, 02:12 PM)
if you want to get a s478 mobo from lyp u better hurry cuz stocks are hard to find  smile.gif

max3 is abit's s478 mobo if im not mistaken.a very good board. laugh.gif

my Asus P4P800X warranty only 1 year shop warranty  sweat.gif
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What do you mean by shop warranty ? is it 3 years ?? sorry i am quite noob is these things.
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i bought my Asus mobo from a shop in lowyat plaza.the shop's name is Czone.and my motherboard has a 1 year warranty from the shop.means if there's any problem i have to send it back to the shop for RMA. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 3 2007, 01:41 PM)
I though of going there to ask.
Max-3 ???
I'd like to ask normally soket 478 asus can be guarantee for how long ? 2 years or 3 years ?
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Yes it's a MAX-3 mobo. Very good in overclocking. brows.gif brows.gif Asus mobo if not mistaken sohuld be having 1 year warranty only on new mobo.
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my motherboard already 2 years plus almost 3 years.So if i give back to the shop will they send back to the factory and fix it ? or something else they will do ?


Added on February 3, 2007, 4:53 pmMy problem is this , my last post
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=401028&hl=
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=401326&hl=

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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 3 2007, 04:52 PM)
my motherboard already 2 years plus almost 3 years.So if i give back to the shop will they send back to the factory and fix it ? or something else they will do  ?


Added on February 3, 2007, 4:53 pmMy problem is this , my last post
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=401028&hl=
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=401326&hl=
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If like that maybe they won't help you to send for RMA or they might make some charges upon your RMA process as they need to use the delivering service to send to overseas.
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using my intel mobo for around 2.5years...no prob at all coz only can use it at stock (can't oc or whatsoever.... sweat.gif ) but intel mobo are good if u are not an overclocker...very stable...
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 3 2007, 06:57 PM)
using my intel mobo for around 2.5years...no prob at all coz only can use it at stock (can't oc or whatsoever.... sweat.gif ) but intel mobo are good if u are not an overclocker...very stable...
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agreed!!! i'm once using the Intel 865PERL without any issue.
very stable mobo indeed!
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I also have been using this mobo.Well i can said no even blue problem occured as no o/c done on it and the motherboard layout also looks simple compare to others.
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Feb 3 2007, 06:36 PM)
agreed!!! i'm once using the Intel 865PERL without any issue.
very stable mobo indeed!
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yeah, same mobo.althought the green pcb layout is kinda boring, but it's ok la since im using Uv setup.... smile.gif
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I don't even know how to OC .I am just an average user.
So normally how much they will charge to RMA back ? any idea?
So does it sound my mobo is dead , i still haven't send it for repair
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 3 2007, 07:01 PM)
I don't even know how to OC .I am just an average user.
So normally how much they will charge to RMA back ? any idea?
So does it sound my mobo is dead , i still haven't send it for repair
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This need to depend on the shop wants to send for RMA for you or not.There are some of them after 1 year warranty they won't bother you if your mobo spoil.You can ask around the shop there if you want.
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So how much will it be if mobo spoil ? anyone in this forum know how to repair motherboard ?
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if your mobo really spoiled, it is quite hard to repair it locally as those pc shops just selling products. Electrician dont have the facilities for mobo. I dont think the RMA cost will be cheap, it takes ages and the shipping fees are not cheap. Better use the $ to get a new 478 mobo or buy from forumers.

Well, these are only my 2 cents. The decision is in your hand. icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah agreed with kabukiawie.even if you send for repairs there's a possibility that it wont work when u get it back laugh.gif


anyway,just found out that i managed 2808mhz last time with my fma on stock volts sweat.gif but on my old msi 865pe neo2v mobo.cant wait for my fma to come back n see how good this p4p800x is laugh.gif
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if the procssor and ram is ocable, it should be able to show 70%++ of its real performance. Too bad the limited vdimm hold some of the high voltage ram back to get higher. sad.gif
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Thanks kabukiawie and pengster , i thin i'll buy a new motherboard.If i change a new motherboard , can i still use back the window xp that being use from my old spoil motherboard asus ? i heard my friends chipset no same cannot run need to reformat.
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i would recommend backup your data and fresh install to get the better performance. if really want to use back the old windows, put windows cd in and reinstall it. But i think it just save the time for installing other software. icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah, every time when u upgrading ur hardware such as proc/gc, make sure u install/reinstall windows for better performance.that's what all of the reviewers on the net do when doing their hardware test.... happy.gif
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 4 2007, 10:17 AM)
Thanks kabukiawie and pengster , i thin i'll buy a new motherboard.If i change a new motherboard , can i still use back the window xp that being use from my old spoil motherboard asus ? i heard my friends chipset no same cannot run need to reformat.
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you can if you want to but if you deem its not necessary then dont do it smile.gif cuz last time i changed my msi mobo to the asus im using now but i dint reformat laugh.gif


now i think i'll try to get my proc back up to 2.7ghz whistling.gif
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something like , after changing into new mobo , boot the hard disk , then put the xp cd and reinstall window ?
Will it delete my file if I reinstall window xp ?
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 4 2007, 05:00 PM)
something like , after changing into new mobo , boot the hard disk , then put the xp cd and reinstall window ?
Will it delete my file if I reinstall window xp ?
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u can repair..but dont use the 1st option.when wndows installation ask for the 1st time, just select format.than it will ask for the 2nd time whether wanna istall fresh copy of windows or repair, u just choose repair...the 2nd one is better... smile.gif
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 4 2007, 05:00 PM)
something like , after changing into new mobo , boot the hard disk , then put the xp cd and reinstall window ?
Will it delete my file if I reinstall window xp ?
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if you dont reformat then all ur files will still be there..but when u reinstall a new copy of windows without reformatting all your things will be pretty messed up laugh.gif

and windows might ask you which windows do you want to boot into.[since you have two copies of windows in 1 hdd]
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damn.. my proc lost oc ability now..it suddently happen when i format my pc..
last time can do 3.9 @ default vcore.. now 3.7X only cry.gif
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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Feb 4 2007, 06:24 PM)
damn.. my proc lost oc ability now..it suddently happen when i format my pc..
last time can do 3.9 @ default vcore.. now 3.7X only  cry.gif
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maybe it's nearly reach it's lifespan??

nelza, plzz update my name in the list plz...
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i still recommend fresh format. FYI, i believe there are 'junk' files in your current system. For sure your old driver files will be still in windows even you uninstall them after reinstall windows. It more or less will bring down the performance. Why dont spend a little more time to fresh install it?

@nelza-ax
you mean after you fresh install it wont boot into windows? Quite weird hmm.gif......
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@kingmax
i still recommend fresh format. FYI, i believe there are 'junk' files in your current system. For sure your old driver files will be still in windows even you uninstall them after reinstall windows. It more or less will bring down the performance. Why dont spend a little more time to fresh install it?

@nelza-ax
you mean after you fresh install it wont boot into windows? Quite weird hmm.gif......
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yeah.. alwayz restart.. and now... stuck at 3.8 only sweat.gif
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never encounter this prob before. You still using stock cooling??
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nelza_ax : Happens to me b4, got my max OC with my 2.4B at 3.6Ghz, managed to boot into windows

Tried again b4 I change my proc, always restart with same voltage applied....

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Ok i'll format and freshly install window xp.
Just want to ask , noob question , i am using something like Intel 865PE at my asus board.If i buy a new motherboard not Intel 865PE will it work with my pentium 4 processor ?
If i use back the same Intel 865PE chipset means i can run back my window xp without reformating it ?
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 5 2007, 12:43 AM)
Ok i'll format and freshly install window xp.
Just want to ask , noob question , i am using something like Intel 865PE at my asus board.If i buy a new motherboard not Intel 865PE will it work with my pentium 4 processor ?
If i use back the same Intel 865PE chipset means i can run back my window xp without reformating it ?
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as long as it is soc478, support same FSB it's ok la... sweat.gif can't get actually what ur Q.... sweat.gif
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actually what is Intel 865PE means ? chipset ??
Why i can't find the same name of chipset at other different motherbaord ? like asrock and msi.Can't find the same name Intel 865PE
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 5 2007, 12:43 AM)
Ok i'll format and freshly install window xp.
Just want to ask , noob question , i am using something like Intel 865PE at my asus board.If i buy a new motherboard not Intel 865PE will it work with my pentium 4 processor ?
If i use back the same Intel 865PE chipset means i can run back my window xp without reformating it ?
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if u use back then its okay, you just need to reinstall back the audio drivers, and chipset drivers etc
if totally different chipset then have to reformat, unless u ghost your windows ler
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Feb 5 2007, 04:28 PM)
actually what is Intel 865PE means ? chipset ??
Why i can't find the same name of chipset at other different motherbaord ? like asrock and msi.Can't find the same name Intel 865PE
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865PE/GB is the chipset that support p4 soc 478 supporting 800fsb. there is also 875,like Asus, gigabyte and abit produced for their highend series.this intel 875PE support PAT..

some of the manufacturer produce mobo with VIA chipset (dunno much about this).but still can support soc478....
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 5 2007, 06:44 PM)
865PE/GB is the chipset that support p4 soc 478 supporting 800fsb. there is also 875,like Asus, gigabyte and abit produced for their highend series.this intel 875PE support PAT..

some of the manufacturer produce mobo with VIA chipset (dunno much about this).but still can support soc478....
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Got VIA and SIS also.As long as their mobos are built with S478 socket then any 478 proc can fit in already. But usually for SIS and VIA mobo ,need to check on their max proc spec capability first before going to use them.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 5 2007, 07:19 PM)
Got VIA and SIS also.As long as their mobos are built with S478 socket then any 478 proc can fit in already. But usually for SIS and VIA mobo ,need to check on their max proc spec capability first before going to use them.
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yeah, usually SIS got at those SFF mobo....SIS not bad for overclocker.... thumbup.gif (example those shuttle series... thumbup.gif )
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Normally for OC, its best to choose mainstream to high end
My experience with SiS was....no PCI/AGP lock so can't go high >.>"
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But is sad to say that SIS is not really a famous chipset for overclockers.I think even forummers here don't even have one of them is using them according to those reported in this thread here.
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like what shinjite said, via and sis are lack of pci/agp lock. I prefer VIA more than sis. tongue.gif Maybe the SiS chipset i encounter is low end. VIA serves me better. I didnt see any VIA or SiS chipset users in this thread. hmm.gif
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VIA is ok for normal use.But in terms of overclocking sitll left very much behind from Intel chipsets. VIA and SIS are normally found out on those budget boards.
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at least they can oc compared to my intel board... sad.gif
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Intel doesn't support OCing mah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Feb 6 2007, 02:39 AM)
Intel doesn't support OCing mah tongue.gif
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except for their latest intel 975xbx... thumbup.gif
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is Asrock P4i65G is a good mobo for OCing?
the description said got untied overclocking technology one..
but only can use with prescott s478 only..
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 6 2007, 03:26 AM)
is Asrock P4i65G is a good mobo for OCing?
the description said got untied overclocking technology one..
but only can use with prescott s478 only..
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say no to asrock blush.gif
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if normal use, Asrock is fine, but to OC, better get a better board. smile.gif
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yo guys, i need some recomendation on HSF for my P4C 3.0GHz oc @ 3.41GHz. Idle temp is around 45-48C but 100% load is as high as 75C ! even at stock voltage (1.525v) still too hot for me.

currently use the CM Xdream III Copper base+ Aluminium fins. i need to replace a good HSF so that i can decrease to about 55-60C on full load.
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hmm..why asrock is no good?

care to review some more?
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Feb 6 2007, 09:12 AM)
yo guys, i need some recomendation on HSF for my P4C 3.0GHz oc @ 3.41GHz. Idle temp is around 45-48C but 100% load is as high as 75C ! even at stock voltage (1.525v) still too hot for me.

currently use the CM Xdream III Copper base+ Aluminium fins. i need to replace a good HSF so that i can decrease to about 55-60C on full load.
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yours is 3.0E??got same prob when using CM cooler before.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Feb 6 2007, 09:12 AM)
yo guys, i need some recomendation on HSF for my P4C 3.0GHz oc @ 3.41GHz. Idle temp is around 45-48C but 100% load is as high as 75C ! even at stock voltage (1.525v) still too hot for me.

currently use the CM Xdream III Copper base+ Aluminium fins. i need to replace a good HSF so that i can decrease to about 55-60C on full load.
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if you are using 3.0E and wish to OC, your CM heatsink cant handle that. get something better like those from Thermalright, ZeroTherm or Noctua. You will find more option in Cooling/Modding Forum.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Feb 6 2007, 04:11 PM)
if you are using 3.0E and wish to OC, your CM heatsink cant handle that. get something better like those from Thermalright, ZeroTherm or Noctua. You will find more option in Cooling/Modding Forum.
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mine is 3.0C oc at 3.41GHz. My northwood core is terribly high on 100% load. can be as high as 75C. i came across with alot of HSF review but cannot find exactly how much celcius © can be lowered down on OCed P4
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Feb 6 2007, 05:36 PM)
mine is 3.0C oc at 3.41GHz. My northwood core is terribly high on 100% load. can be as high as 75C. i came across with alot of HSF review but cannot find exactly how much celcius (C) can be lowered down on OCed P4
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i think it's ur heatsink...overclocked northwood got lower tempt.that's y become famouse amongs overclocker...or maybe ur core??? sweat.gif
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can i join the club? my spec? see my sig. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(merzchan @ Feb 6 2007, 07:46 PM)
can i join the club? my spec? see my sig. biggrin.gif
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of course!! ur welcome... icon_rolleyes.gif any info of ur rig??seems can oc higher.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(merzchan @ Feb 6 2007, 07:46 PM)
can i join the club? my spec? see my sig. biggrin.gif
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updated oledi icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(merzchan @ Feb 6 2007, 07:46 PM)
can i join the club? my spec? see my sig. biggrin.gif
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nice rig, why didnt oc it since you have hyperX ram?? icon_rolleyes.gif share your oc with us. smile.gif
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merzchan, welcome to my gang, IS7-E user XD
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nelza,you didn't updated my system.My mobo is IC7-G,not AI7. My Super PI result also you didn't updated. tongue.gif

Super PI result



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QUOTE(nelza_ax @ Feb 6 2007, 08:12 PM)
updated oledi icon_rolleyes.gif
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y u only updaitng his name, but not mine as i already ask u to update earlier than him??? cry.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Feb 6 2007, 05:36 PM)
mine is 3.0C oc at 3.41GHz. My northwood core is terribly high on 100% load. can be as high as 75C. i came across with alot of HSF review but cannot find exactly how much celcius (C) can be lowered down on OCed P4
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i am using 3.4C (30caps) oc at 3.82ghz

3.82ghz
Idle: 35'C
Full Load: 46'C

3.4ghz
Idle: 29'C
Full Load: 38'C

My processor is a 30caps ver. The temp is higher than normal ver C P4. Seem that my heatsink really great smile.gif

I am using Scythe Andy Samurai Master with Silverstone FM121. The third best in Scythe Heatsink, after Scythe Infinity and Ninja.

Reapply your TIM and heatsink. Your temp is too high and abnormal.


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QUOTE(merzchan @ Feb 6 2007, 07:46 PM)
can i join the club? my spec? see my sig. biggrin.gif
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Welcome to the old school club smile.gif

Nice rig

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QUOTE(irangan @ Feb 6 2007, 11:34 PM)
i am using 3.4C (30caps) oc at 3.82ghz

3.82ghz
Idle: 35'C
Full Load: 46'C

3.4ghz
Idle: 29'C
Full Load: 38'C

My processor is a 30caps ver. The temp is higher than normal ver C P4. Seem that my heatsink really great smile.gif

I am using Scythe Andy Samurai Master with Silverstone FM121. The third best in Scythe Heatsink, after Scythe Infinity and Ninja.

Reapply your TIM and heatsink. Your temp is too high and abnormal.


Added on February 6, 2007, 11:36 pm

Welcome to the old school club smile.gif

Nice rig
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is it due to not high performance HSF from Coolermaster Xdream III? well it says from the box it can support up to 3.4GHz P4. is it due to HSF design where 90% made from aluminium only the base is full copper.
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Feb 7 2007, 12:24 PM)
is it due to not high performance HSF from Coolermaster Xdream III? well it says from the box it can support up to 3.4GHz P4. is it due to HSF design where 90% made from aluminium only the base is full copper.
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IMO, there are only 2 possible scenario in your case.

1. Your heatsink is not good enough. (IMO, almost all of Cooler Master heatsink is crappy except Hyper TX and Gemini series)

2. You didnt mount your heatsink properly. Probably lack of TIM or pressure on the processor.


Sorry if I sounds harsh. But you must know that your Xdream III is considered as low end 3rd party heatsink. Your heatsink dont have any heatpipe and used only a normal fan. IMO, its performance probably only better than stock cooler abit. Thus, it is almost impossible for it to cope up with the heat produced from a prescott even you used it at default speed.

You can compare your heatsink with those high end stuff sell by fellow forummer. You will see the difference in its looks and of course the performance.

Thermalright

Scythe

Noctua

I dont wish to discuss this any further since I am way off topic here. Any further question, pls discuss it in Cooling and Hard-modding Thread
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irangan,last time you said want to let go your 478 system now decide to use back this system?
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 7 2007, 06:31 PM)
irangan,last time you said want to let go your 478 system now decide to use back this system?
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Haha, he is temp with the x1950pro. Seems maybe can last longer.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Feb 7 2007, 06:31 PM)
irangan,last time you said want to let go your 478 system now decide to use back this system?
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Actually I should playing with my new x6700 and 8800gtx rig by now. But before i managed to withdraw the money, I cant get through my customs and that is my Girlfriend. She questioned my spending and we go into a friendly debate. In the end, she won the debate sad.gif. I dont need such a powerful new rig since I am not in graphic design line and have too little time for games due to heavy workload. So I get myself a new GC to use lo.

*Moral of the story: When you have a GF, not easy to spend money on computer parts even you have those money to spend. So upgrade while you can. haha..

QUOTE(KahLooN @ Feb 7 2007, 10:27 PM)
Haha, he is temp with the x1950pro. Seems maybe can last longer.
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Ya.. a x1950pro will prolong my rig life span for another 1 year at least .hehe..


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irangan : X1950pro good enough already ler.....

1 year later, u won't be thinking about 8800GTX liao XD
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 6 2007, 03:26 AM)
is Asrock P4i65G is a good mobo for OCing?
the description said got untied overclocking technology one..
but only can use with prescott s478 only..
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ASRock MTB-P4i65G << this mb`s bios got the setting of the ram voltage ?
anyone using this mb now ? good mb ?
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QUOTE(irangan @ Feb 7 2007, 10:38 PM)
Actually I should playing with my new x6700 and 8800gtx rig by now. But before i managed to withdraw the money, I cant get through my customs and that is my Girlfriend. She questioned my spending and we go into a friendly debate. In the end, she won the debate sad.gif. I dont need such a powerful new rig since I am not in graphic design line and have too little time for games due to heavy workload. So I get myself a new GC to use lo.

*Moral of the story: When you have a GF, not easy to spend money on computer parts even you have those money to spend. So upgrade while you can. haha..
Ya.. a x1950pro will prolong my rig life span for another 1 year at least .hehe..
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x1950pro is a gem. drool.gif drool.gif there is no need for you to upgrade anymore. Maybe the most after this is that you have a P4EE. haha.... laugh.gif spend your time more with your GF wink.gif

QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Feb 8 2007, 04:10 AM)
ASRock MTB-P4i65G << this mb`s bios got the setting of the ram voltage ?
anyone using this mb now ? good mb ?
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google for it. download the manual if you dont have. Are you using it now? i never come across asrock p4 mobo. maybe you can share your experience about it. smile.gif

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So right now irangan is using his 1950 PRO ? His signature is written incoming status for the display card.
@ irangan, show us some print screen on the 3D marks. I read the reviews online that the x1950 pro did quite well on the 3D mark 06 too.

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