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msa9696
post Oct 3 2016, 08:08 PM

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Regarding using CC for cars. I've signed about RM 25k on Nissan, no charges at all, but they only allow Visa, not Amex. On another case, Mercedes allow Amex but they charge you 2%.
whyip1988
post Oct 4 2016, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(msa9696 @ Oct 3 2016, 08:08 PM)
Regarding using CC for cars. I've signed about RM 25k on Nissan, no charges at all, but they only allow Visa, not Amex. On another case, Mercedes allow Amex but they charge you 2%.
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two months ago i swipe 10k in Honda, they allowed amex ,but charged me 1.5%
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post Oct 4 2016, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(lilsunflower @ Oct 3 2016, 05:23 PM)
Have you considered cards like HLB Fortune (someone recently revived a thread on this) to pay significant  TNB bills?  Not sure what your usage requirements are, but it gives 1% on almost any spend except govt and JOMPay as long as you spend more than RM2k per month. However, cap at RM50 (so effectively up to 5000 spending per month) BUT they have bonus cash back upon hitting annual thresholds so you could still get cashback on spending above 5000. A little complicated to explain here but it's clear if you visit the HLB page itself. Can discuss in more detail on that thread.
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thanks for sharing. I already have the HL VI card and i try not to keep 2 cards from the same bank (exception of mbb 2 cards premier). I use jompay w HL for tnb bills, but it seems that jompay does not qualify for points? Strange, as I have been getting enrich miles credited automatically every month from HL.

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post Oct 4 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Jack128 @ Oct 3 2016, 10:59 AM)
Hi herc,, how are you getting along with your tnb bills? Still running them 20x at the grocers?  blink.gif
I find that just too much of a hassle and using the HL VI instead. Rm2.80 =1EM so not fantastic. Looking at other oprions so it will be great if you can share any updates.Thanks!
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I am using Maybank KrisFlyer Amex at the moment, but having issue if u read on FFP thread.
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post Oct 4 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(whyip1988 @ Oct 4 2016, 08:55 AM)
two months ago i swipe 10k in Honda, they allowed amex ,but charged me 1.5%
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Which outlet sir? Are they any max amount? Car down payment 5 X TP right

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post Oct 4 2016, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Oct 4 2016, 01:19 PM)
Which outlet sir? Are they any max amount? Car down payment 5 X TP right
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Retail purchase with AMEX is 5x TP
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post Oct 4 2016, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(whyip1988 @ Oct 4 2016, 08:55 AM)
two months ago i swipe 10k in Honda, they allowed amex ,but charged me 1.5%
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which begs the question...is 50k points worth the rm150 extra?....the treats point nominal value is 0.25sen....so the value of 50k points is rm125....
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post Oct 4 2016, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jack128 @ Oct 4 2016, 09:02 AM)
thanks for sharing. I already have the HL VI card and i try not to keep 2 cards from the same bank (exception of mbb 2 cards premier). I use jompay w HL for tnb bills, but it seems that jompay does not qualify for points? Strange, as I have been getting enrich miles credited automatically every month from HL.
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Strange. The announcement says effective 16 June 2016. I learned the hard way because I had been getting 1% on DBKL and Pos Online, and suddenly one month I received ZERO cashback. Called them and said change in terms.

Some dude on the HLB Fortune thread reported nearly 2% annual returns on his HLB Fortune (after including the annual bonus).
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2016, 03:02 PM)
which begs the question...is 50k points worth the rm150 extra?....the treats point nominal value is 0.25sen....so the value of 50k points is rm125....
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It depends how you value your treatpoints. For me, the sole plus of this card its it conversion value to FFP miles. 50000 TP equates to 10482 Asiamiles. Which equates to 'buying' miles at RM0.014 per Mile.

A return ticket in economy on Cathay from KL to Hong Kong costs 30000 Asiamiles +. That equals to RM420(miles value) + RM233(taxes), RM633 for a return ticket to HKG. Use it to redeem a Multi Carrier Award ticket in J/F the value rises exponentially. Asiamiles also allows you to buy miles but it's priced at USD32.50 per 1000 miles. mad.gif

If anyone wants to buy a car and would not mind me swiping AMEX, please PM me I'll pay the 1.5% sweat.gif sweat.gif biggrin.gif

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post Oct 4 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Oct 4 2016, 03:52 PM)
It depends how you value your treatpoints. For me, the sole plus of this card its it conversion value to FFP miles. 50000 TP equates to 10482 Asiamiles. Which equates to 'buying' miles at RM0.014 per Mile.

A return ticket in economy on Cathay from KL to Hong Kong costs 30000 Asiamiles +. That equals to RM420(miles value) + RM233(taxes), RM633 for a return ticket to HKG. Use it to redeem a Multi Carrier Award ticket in J/F the value rises exponentially.

If anyone wants to buy a car and would not mind me swiping AMEX, please PM me I'll pay the 1.5%  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  biggrin.gif
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yes, i believe genx did calculate this out before....and conclude that for the purpose of airmiles, it may be worth it....

the worth is not very much for economy class redemption...best for business class...

however, it only has value if it is replacement worth...ie, you intend to buy a business class ticket anyway, and then use miles to redeem...if you would otherwise just travel economy, then the worth may be a bit of $ saving (usually redemption cost will be less than an economy ticket), and a free class upgrade.... biggrin.gif

free class upgrade isn't much value to me, unless it's a long haul red eye....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2016, 04:11 PM)
yes, i believe genx did calculate this out before....and conclude that for the purpose of airmiles, it may be worth it....

the worth is not very much for economy class redemption...best for business class...

however, it only has value if it is replacement worth...ie, you intend to buy a business class ticket anyway, and then use miles to redeem...if you would otherwise just travel economy, then the worth may be a bit of $ saving (usually redemption cost will be less than an economy ticket), and a free class upgrade....  biggrin.gif

free class upgrade isn't much value to me, unless it's a long haul red eye....
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Agreed! Different strokes for different folks ! Hahaha
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wooo .... i look old now, i don't even calculate the point i earn ....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2016, 04:11 PM)
however, it only has value if it is replacement worth...ie, you intend to buy a business class ticket anyway, and then use miles to redeem...if you would otherwise just travel economy, then the worth may be a bit of $ saving (usually redemption cost will be less than an economy ticket), and a free class upgrade....  biggrin.gif

free class upgrade isn't much value to me, unless it's a long haul red eye....
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That's a fair statement, which also relates very much to how much most people are actually spending in a year. I always tell folks that if you're not gaining at least 30-40k miles (not TP) in a year, then a card like the premiere is not worth the annual fee, you can't get enough value out of it compared to a cashback card.

Many don't put enough thought or analysis into it, which is the banks' gain...

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post Oct 5 2016, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(lilsunflower @ Oct 4 2016, 03:52 PM)
Strange. The announcement says effective 16 June 2016. I learned the hard way because I had been getting 1% on DBKL and Pos Online, and suddenly one month I received ZERO cashback. Called them and said change in terms.

Some dude on the HLB Fortune thread reported nearly 2% annual returns on his HLB Fortune (after including the annual bonus).
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What if you swipe at the counter? Also zero cash back? So what are you doing now to get the most out of your bills?
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post Oct 5 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(herc @ Oct 4 2016, 10:07 AM)
I am using Maybank KrisFlyer Amex at the moment, but having issue if u read on FFP thread.
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Moving away from enrich? Understandable, with their route cuts etc
But their recent OZ deal was pretty good and I snapped 4 biz tickets to Sydney for 55k miles each
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QUOTE(Jack128 @ Oct 5 2016, 09:18 AM)
Moving away from enrich? Understandable, with their route cuts etc
But their recent OZ deal was pretty good and I snapped 4 biz tickets to Sydney for 55k miles each
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Enrich redemptions become not competitive after they removed the 15% discount. Personally, I would only redeem Enrich during promotion period which give 30% to 50% discount. Else, I would prefer KF.
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post Oct 6 2016, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(kelvintt @ Oct 5 2016, 10:02 AM)
Enrich redemptions become not competitive after they removed the 15% discount. Personally, I would only redeem Enrich during promotion period which give 30% to 50% discount. Else, I would prefer KF.
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Yes I agree. It appears that they are running promo quite frequently now but with very short travel dates and limited booking time. I prefer not to transit in Singapore so for the moment it's still enrich for me

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post Oct 6 2016, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Oct 4 2016, 01:19 PM)
Which outlet sir? Are they any max amount? Car down payment 5 X TP right
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Senawang Honda , ya, 5X TP ,and i converted to PBB BT ,honda charged me RM150 but i can get 0% interest + 5x TP,
still nt bad..
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2016, 03:02 PM)
which begs the question...is 50k points worth the rm150 extra?....the treats point nominal value is 0.25sen....so the value of 50k points is rm125....
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coz i wan BT to pbb , 0% interest
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post Oct 6 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(whyip1988 @ Oct 6 2016, 10:17 AM)
coz i wan BT to pbb , 0% interest
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yes, but bt to a 0% bank does not add any further value to you...

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