thx man i 'll sure will test my rig....

becareful that, boost too much will result in hang, treat ur PC's fever first lar, dont put it in cold place until u also need to wear jacket to go inside, haha

kindly explain.

i have been OCing AMD processors for since sub 1ghz days. so i'd like to know what you've discovered that i've not.

i also think like that, coz AMd is build for gamers it should be safer than intel, intel only good in cooling, but it's 2.6GHz stock speed lose to my 2.21GHz stock speed ^^

Not yet sold le....
Yeah that teddy guy is irritating....he's been posting everywhere to buy ram and ask for screenshot of 250mhz ocing eventhough seller didnt mention about that..
And i found somebody complaining him for aeroplane after reserve to him.

I doubt OCing could burn ur stuffs....
mobo usually has its own detection and it wont bootup setting is wrong, then it will auto reset back worst case have to manually reset.

Damm 1.8 to 2.5

explain that too........... please.

i powered an Intel 2.4ghz without putting on heatsink. no problem. shutdown itself. spoil? no. safe? yes. what else?

i'd like to know why you guys are thinking one is safer than another.

intel good in cooling? maybe for the C2D yes........ but have you considered that for the past years, AMD has the cooler processor?

WaCKy, my Sempron 2800+ was 1.6ghz and it did 2.5ghz on 1.5vcore and stock heatsink.

don't believe? check it out.......
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/242325

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 28 2006, 11:27 PM

well, that's what i'm basing it on. i'm not too updated with AMD technology, but i'm pretty sure Intel can still run safe without heatsink . i know that AMD can be overclock, but i've seen for a fact(forgot which website) an overheated athlon got fried and an Intel will only throttle down and reboot. so let me rephrase that abit:

"AMD is overclockable as much as Intel(if not better), but it may not be as failsafe as intel "

@zeroglyph
well, if u are not too updated, i guess u may have to rephrase a lot of time. stop doing it, until u update ur info on AMD.
u might be causing a havoc here.

OCers know what they are doing. failsafe or not or watsoever prob, they did it on their own risk.
i fried my athlon few years back, just because i am a noob at that time.. those who know how to handle things, i bet their Athlon is still doing a decent job.

exactly what i mean. intel will not fry itself due to its throttle down and reboot feature. by not updated, i mean i know that athlon does not have this feature, i just don't know whether the newer AMD model has it. so it is my bad for basing on old tech.

by failsafe, i mean a p4 can be overclocked without worries on stock, but an athlon will fry if clocked too much on stock. with proper cooling, it's a different story already.

by "knowing how to handle things" means, it is no longer in failsafe territory because they already know how to do things.

i'm not trying to mislead or "wreck havoc", just a precaution based on experience. if that's wrong, then.....whatever.

i'd say that is a better explanation.
i am never in a position to say u are misleading.. my bad if i have the tone..i got what u mean in the first place, but afraid newbies tend to get the wrong idea, simply conclude AMD is not safe for OC.

ok. never answer based on old tech. for the past few years, AMD has the cooler processor compared to Intel.

AMD boards comes with shutdown temperature setting BIOS too.

in fact those hot processors were the past, i once fried till crack a Duron just because i forgot to put on the heatsink (used to Intel processors that time the Intels were fine without sink for a while)

anyway have a read at this article http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=346&pgno=4




i assume your Athlon in the above statement refers to AMD processors in general

here's my Sempron 2800+ overclock to prove the above being false.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...1&#entry5833191

CPU: AMD Sempron 2800+
SPEED: 2500MHz (312MHz x 8) <=-- original speed. 1600mhz. that's 56% overclock
VOLTAGE APPLIED: 1.500V
COOLING: AIR
CPU COOLER: stock HSF <=-- yup, stock heatsink.

btw even now i'm typing to you on my Athlon64 2800+ from 1.8ghz to 2.4ghz (was 2.5ghz but i changed board. will try to push to 2.5ghz again on Scythe Ninja running fanless.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 12:34 AM

by athlon i mean athlon XP. the research papers i read was a comparison between p4 and athlon XP.

ok. then you had better mention Athlon XP specifically.

because since even AFTER Athlon XP, there's still other Athlons. like Athlon 64, Athlon FX and even Athlon X2 - covering from S754 to S940.

so by saying Athlon alone would generalize and mislead.

have a look
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=337&pgno=1

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 01:07 AM

first of all i'm not pin pointing to anyone, but i feel that many ppl in this forum like to give their "maybe" opinion instead they're not sure about it. so as mod say answer it if you are sure or put a ? if you're not sure...
or you may say what's wrong if i simply answer? well when ppl google up they'll see the thread and this lead them to think "ppl in this forum/country are just so so"

my 2 cents

What's motherboard r u using?!
That PCI-E bus speed is wrong. No way it can get that high...

i use nvidia nTune software and i use GIGABYTE M61PM-S2, i didnt adjust the PCI-E bus speed itself, i just let the nvidia nTune to tune itself, at first it boost my processor to 2.5 then hang, and then it take it down to 2.3GHz, and yesterday be4 i sleep, i take it up to 2.4GHz, and now still works fine for me, the PCI-E bus speed seem not to be so useful.

EDIT: y after i overclock my PC, when i go to the control panel > system there, it still show me 2.21GHz although i already adjust to 2.4GHz, and one more things, is 589.980MHz very high for my kingston PC4200 DDRs 1GB RAM?

This post has been edited by amduser: Dec 29 2006, 10:24 AM

my comp restart while i playing games or watching movies after some time, system overheating? or overclock the limit? i using 3500+ 2.21GHz and 7300GS 512MB

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This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 02:20 PM

better you use CPU-Z to view your system.

sometimes it's more about instability rather than heat.

so to make it more stable, you might have to up the vcore or vdimm or both.

after upping those stuff you'll generate more heat. of course, i would that you understand vcore / vdimm and pushing it too high MAY cause damage to your system.

as for me, I OCed my rig from 1.8ghz to 2.5ghz with 1.6vcore. however i decided to drop it back to 2.3ghz and running 1.5vcore instead. lesser heat, and only a bit slower than 2.5ghz but still much faster than 1.8ghz.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 02:21 PM

ppl learn from mistakes, and other brighter ppl learn from other ppl's mistakes...
Ok so we're abit dumb, whats wrong about that?
Your gonna take your C2D, quad core, etc etc to compare with US?
They have the tech more earlier than u...