ok firstly when you overclock, 100mhz gain won't give you noticable difference. neither does 200mhz.

however from 1.8ghz to 2.5ghz like mine, it's really not that noticable either unless the application requires some processing.

kindly explain.

i have been OCing AMD processors for since sub 1ghz days. so i'd like to know what you've discovered that i've not.

explain that too........... please.

i powered an Intel 2.4ghz without putting on heatsink. no problem. shutdown itself. spoil? no. safe? yes. what else?

i'd like to know why you guys are thinking one is safer than another.

intel good in cooling? maybe for the C2D yes........ but have you considered that for the past years, AMD has the cooler processor?

WaCKy, my Sempron 2800+ was 1.6ghz and it did 2.5ghz on 1.5vcore and stock heatsink.

don't believe? check it out.......
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/242325

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 28 2006, 11:27 PM

ok. never answer based on old tech. for the past few years, AMD has the cooler processor compared to Intel.

AMD boards comes with shutdown temperature setting BIOS too.

in fact those hot processors were the past, i once fried till crack a Duron just because i forgot to put on the heatsink (used to Intel processors that time the Intels were fine without sink for a while)

anyway have a read at this article http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=346&pgno=4




i assume your Athlon in the above statement refers to AMD processors in general

here's my Sempron 2800+ overclock to prove the above being false.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...1&#entry5833191

CPU: AMD Sempron 2800+
SPEED: 2500MHz (312MHz x 8) <=-- original speed. 1600mhz. that's 56% overclock
VOLTAGE APPLIED: 1.500V
COOLING: AIR
CPU COOLER: stock HSF <=-- yup, stock heatsink.

btw even now i'm typing to you on my Athlon64 2800+ from 1.8ghz to 2.4ghz (was 2.5ghz but i changed board. will try to push to 2.5ghz again on Scythe Ninja running fanless.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 12:34 AM

ok. then you had better mention Athlon XP specifically.

because since even AFTER Athlon XP, there's still other Athlons. like Athlon 64, Athlon FX and even Athlon X2 - covering from S754 to S940.

so by saying Athlon alone would generalize and mislead.

have a look
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=337&pgno=1

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 01:07 AM

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This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 02:20 PM

better you use CPU-Z to view your system.

sometimes it's more about instability rather than heat.

so to make it more stable, you might have to up the vcore or vdimm or both.

after upping those stuff you'll generate more heat. of course, i would that you understand vcore / vdimm and pushing it too high MAY cause damage to your system.

as for me, I OCed my rig from 1.8ghz to 2.5ghz with 1.6vcore. however i decided to drop it back to 2.3ghz and running 1.5vcore instead. lesser heat, and only a bit slower than 2.5ghz but still much faster than 1.8ghz.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 29 2006, 02:21 PM

wacky, some errors are really mistakes. some errors are due to lack of common sense before posting.

what warrior mentioned is absolutely true, time and again i find forummers here keep giving opinions that are either false or outdated - all just because they HEARD someone said so.

it's getting pretty annoying.

it's not about who being dumb or what - it's about lacking common sense. don't know? not sure? lack information /experience in a particular topic? then don't post, if you want to give information that do your very best to give an as accurate an answer as possible, not something based on myths or old information.

even if you don't know the answer, then you can try googling. you may learn and at the same time share your answer - at least that's a more proper way of answering questions.

download it from http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip

CPU-Z is good, it's the application that we OCer use to check our system.

no no.

vdimm is ram voltage
vcore is cpu voltage

yes, but also stability. it won't cause fire la.

at most overheat then shutdown.

usually OCing requires you to play around with the balance of speed + vcore boost + temperature.

for me, though i'm running fanless. i can do 2.5ghz with 1.65vcore but it's hotter. or i can settle with 2.4 at 1.5vcore (default) vcore and it's much cooler. so i want more speed, i have to boost vcore to stabilize it.

my previous boards allow me to go 1.8vcore, but then this board, maximum is 1.65 but it's good enough for me. 1.8ghz to 2.5ghz - cannot complain already.

erm. yeah. bad.

even if you fail Prime95, your system should at least allow you to play game and whatever without auto-restart.

however passing Prime95 tests would be best to prove your system is 100% stable, or at least close to it.

you should also examine the air-flow in your casing.


don't worry. as you say - we learn. at least you put the words "if not mistaken".

if your casing air-flow is good, you wouldn't even have to do what you're doing.

so now you have good air-flow thanks to your face (and waste electricity)

reset your CMOS. refer to the manual, look for keywords like CLEAR CMOS JUMPER.

there's a reason why there's a CLEAR CMOS JUMPER on motherboards, simply because in some cases you can't even access the BIOS to restore default settings.

normally a CMOS reset jumper has 3 pins
[1][2][3]

so normal usage would have the jumper set on pins [1][2] while to reset CMOS just change it to [2][3] for a while then back to [1][2]

however another way to do so would be by removing that battery the mobo.

my timings are 3-4-4-11 and i couldn't be bothered to reach 2-2-2-5 either. why? i don't other to spend my time on timings as i don't see the purpose of spending so much time there just to speed up by some nano pico or whatever seconds that i couldn't even notice.

which is why i don't spend on performance RAMs. btw having shorter timing doesn't mean less stable, having longer timings doesn't mean more stable.

that's why some people take a lot of time and hassle to find out what's that lowest timing they can get before the RAM goes unstable. of course you can pump the vdimm for to help stabilize.

i already explained earlier why i didn't get performance RAMs.

sure, you can say it's faster by having tighter timings and FSB - my question will be : how much faster? if you have the moolah and willing to pay for the boost (whether significant or not) then go ahead.

and value ram doesn't mean it's unstabled. neither does it mean it can't be OCed and still be stable. of course, this really depends on what Value Rams we're talking about. my KVR BT-D43s can OC fine but i tried other KVRs with Nanya chips and others, no such luck on OCing.

all in all it really depends on what you have, and your knowledge on how to use it. for my case, my KVR works great so i don't see a purpose of buying performance RAMs unless my goal is to OC really well and get benchmarking results that i can brag about.