i want to ask u all, i hv tune my GPU and motherboard settings using the nTune download from the nvidia.com, i just let it to help me to tune my setting in my graphic card and motherboard, after i wait for 3 hours, ntg change also, i go for my game, and still the same experience >.<

i use the nvidia monitor(software from nvidia) to detect my CPU core and PCI-E bus speed

original MHz of CPU core: 2210.xxxMHz
after overclock: 2321.277MHz

original PCI-E bus speed: 2500MHz
after overclock: 2925MHz

i'm using AMD 3500+ 2.2GHz and run on 7300GS 512MB DDR2 and 1GB RAM

should i considered the changes of bus speed of CPU and PCI-E as overclock?

Its only 100mhz improvement....cant be very visible...
But yes it does improved abit....u have to notice it carefully....

Btw i just tried to OC last nite...
My 3.0Ghz went to 3.5 or 3.7ghz cant remember....
3.0Ghz with x15multiplier and 200fsb -> 249fsb....

tried to do 250 but it just hanged after loading....whole screen black but there's a mouse and can move...

PCI-E is for graphic and it doesnt really affect cpu performance....

means now my processor is 2.3GHz? be4 i finish my tuning, the nTune boost my processor to 2.6GHz@@ and the benchmark test went unstable, then a runtime error come out, if PCI-E doesn't affect my CPU performance, then is it mean it only improve my graphic card performance?

u adjust the GHz urself or u let the PC help u adjust? my casing is powerlogic, and it has no good air flow, if i go so high i scared my motherboard will turn to ashes.

EDIT: did u change the voltage of ur motherboard and graphic card while overclocking? if hv, wat software u use? or u adjust it in the BIOS while u start windows?

This post has been edited by amduser: Dec 28 2006, 08:07 PM

What a nice CPU to overclock... *sigh*.. if only it was given to me



I tried using nTune. It sucks big time for me... I seriously suggest you overclock it manually from the BIOS itself. Be sure to check out the FSB, multiplier, RAM Speed, RAM timing... and last but most importantly.. voltage.

And yea, don't bother overclocking your GPU yet. Its still considered okay for today's games.

*edit*

Once you have set it to the max in your BIOS that is stable. You can use softwares such as A64 Tweaker and ClockGen to help you correct your RAM timing and also push ur overclocking a lil higher.

This post has been edited by J-Slade: Dec 28 2006, 08:10 PM

original MHz of CPU core: 2210.xxxMHz
after overclock: 2321.277MHz

Yup now its 2.3Ghz after OCing..
multiplier depends on proc itself...my proc has locked multiplier but i have no idea what its for anyway....
It not mistaken, the lower multiplier the better...

Im using bios to oc not software and wasnt tested for stability...

GPU oc somehow does affect abit, not on processing but atleast stuffs regarding to video/display...and that somehow affect abit..

U need to findout the suitable clock when using clockgen...
Google for "systool" its suitable for A64.

And damm i need to learn how to play with ram timing...

Somehow stability isnt a big issue for me. I dun get whats so big deal abt Prime stable and yada yada yada... people just wanna show others that their rig is very good in overclocking but truly, sometimes these benchmark stabilities don't reflect much. I mean, as long as it works, it doesnt hang... it can go load @ 100% without any problems... things shld be okay.

-Out of Topic-
Yo WaCKy-Angel, you sold your Advance Modules already ah? That teddy fella a bit irritating right? lol

if i manually overclock it, i would prefer all go max, but i know that it will burn my processor and motherboard, and i hv no moeny to fixed it, and i dont know much about the voltage adjusting, i only gt a 450W power supply, and i'm not using ASUS or ABIT motherboard, i'm using the GIGABYTE.

is it 3500+ really suitable for overclocking?

Definitely better than the common 3000+ that most people including I are using.
Btw, only certain ASUS motherboard is good. Mine sucks big time. Abit is quite nice. DFI, Biostar are.... fun! haha...

450W is good enuff for simple and basic usage including a lil overclocking (as long as its a true power). Btw, overclocking requires pretty good heatsink/cooling system. Of course, pushing your hardware to go higher than it can, will generate more heat and ruin it over time... but if you have a good cooling system like water cooling or perhaps a high end air cooling one, it will do the trick. But you know what?

My personal opinion is, if you're happy with your system. No lag, no problems... then just leave everything to stock. I have done a survey HERE and it seems that outta 74 votes only 18 really found a significance in performance improvements. No hear problems, no warranty voids, no headaches

i use 2 fans, one for processor and one for exhaust, i dont know wat is true power, and how to see my PSU is true power or not? and i always leave my casing open, is it enough for cooling and air-flow? and u say that DFI and BIOSTAR r fun, wat is the means by fun?

If you leave your case open, your exhaust fan is already considered useless...

Your PSU, hmmm... must see the brand. Most of those cap ayam PSU that comes with your casing are not true power. Check and see what brand/model your PSU.

fun means..... hmmm kay basically they have a lot of tweaking options in the BIOS which allows you to tweak/overclock every single bit that you need. Sometimes things like FSB increment, its good to have small increase like 1Mhz at a time. Also, RAM timings are usually limited to the certain options. Good motherboards will have options like manual RAM speed increment and other optional timing tweaks. WIth so much control in your hands... how can not be itchy to overclock if you've got a good mobo.

i got a cap ayam psu but it works fine when i overclock my rig.......
about the ventilation in the casing i just opened my case ...on my air condition in the room together with fan....the thing is my cpu becomes cold when i check the temperature is 25 degree...(asking if cpu too cold also has disadvantages or not?) but the thing is i need to wear jacket went using the com hehehe

my PSU there write 200W pure/true power, and 450W max/peak power, which one is more accurate? my PSU is POWERLOGIC one, i think if u put the temperature too low, ur motherboard wil be freeze and all the things will start to going down, or other bullsh!t possible is, outside ur motherboard is cold, but inside ur motherboard is hot, cold & hot, make ur motherboard and processor fever^^

i think the max power is more accurate[correct me if im wrong].... btw i didnt think my motherboard will caught fever because it runs smoothly and stable...im using p4 willamette 1.8 ghz and oc it to 2 ghz....it seems fine and all runs smoothly for a week already.. i oc my com little by little so that i can see the system stability...but i didnt touch my graphic card...just the ram and the proc...

coz the graphic card hv not much to adjust, just the GPU and 3D-core, and it only available for some graphic card only

so have u try to oc your proc again? me im thinking to go to the max but scared my proc will become ashes...hehe

i'm not sure i hv to go or not oh, coz i'm not a pro and i dont hv enough experience, many things about the BIOS i still dont understand, and i only hv 2 months working experience on hardware, if any things goes wrong while overclocking, then it will be no backup @@

or u teach me how to overclock lar.

ok firstly when you overclock, 100mhz gain won't give you noticable difference. neither does 200mhz.

however from 1.8ghz to 2.5ghz like mine, it's really not that noticable either unless the application requires some processing.

overclocking should be done little by little over a period of time TS. and you better know what you're doing. AMDs are not as safe as intel with overclocking. better check some of the overclocking guide here and try to understand as much as you can. overclocking blindly is a good way to waste money. 0.2Ghz increment is not that significant is most cases.

about the prime and benchmark thing:
it is to show stability. your system will rarely be pushed as much as with these benchmarking softwares. so if you're system is considered stable doing you daily task, there are still instability in your system that just haven't been discovered. so if your system is not stable with prime or any other benchmark software, your system is not 100% stable. it is only stable for your daily task.

This post has been edited by zeroglyph: Dec 28 2006, 10:37 PM

then i think my graphic card should be consider as not stalble, because when i ply command & conquer: genrals zero hours when i see some kind of car, my screen will appear vertical and horizontal dark line, but when i leave that car it turns back normal, i though AMD can be overclock safety.