when things turns into memory timing, i'm the most noob in timingand i still dont understand wat u all say the 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.0 timing >.<

Have you read our forum's RAM Handbook yet?

it's long man!! until now i'm still reading the timing only!! @@

i still dont know anout the RAM timing even though i hv already read the thread that u gv me, when the international links r up again, i will send u my cpu-z screenshot

last time i OC my rig and one thing i found out.

i OC from 2.4GHz to 2.8GHz. it ran fast but can't really feel it.

but when i OC my GC from 450MHz to 550MHz the output from the 3DMark hit from 7000+ for 05 to 9000+ for 05... that is a bloody big difference. haha.. ^^

This post has been edited by LuVjunz: Dec 29 2006, 11:52 PM

to really enjoy the speed diff, i suggest u familiarize with the speed for a period of time.. run high-processing application,then u revert back to default speed.

next time u run the same application, u will hate the default speed.

normally a CMOS reset jumper has 3 pins
[1][2][3]

so normal usage would have the jumper set on pins [1][2] while to reset CMOS just change it to [2][3] for a while then back to [1][2]

however another way to do so would be by removing that battery the mobo.

my timings are 3-4-4-11 and i couldn't be bothered to reach 2-2-2-5 either. why? i don't other to spend my time on timings as i don't see the purpose of spending so much time there just to speed up by some nano pico or whatever seconds that i couldn't even notice.

I pull out the pin from [1][2], then leave it there for like 15 mins.
then i plug in the pin back to [1][2].

it can boot till the POST, but it did find out that my RAM timing is not good, hence it set back to default.
so, i am not sure if I did clear the CMOS, cause some other setting like Disable onboard sound, disable Floppy still there.

when u want to make ur timing as less as possible, u must know that is ur RAM can support the timing u want? the lesser the timing the faster the performance, but u must gv out the stability of ur RAM, ur data may corrupt or PC hang, but if u make the timing longer or larger the number, u'll gain stability but ur RAM will suffer lose in performance, even a nano or pico second can make ur data corrupt or PC hang, maybe also can improve much stability.

which is why i don't spend on performance RAMs. btw having shorter timing doesn't mean less stable, having longer timings doesn't mean more stable.

that's why some people take a lot of time and hassle to find out what's that lowest timing they can get before the RAM goes unstable. of course you can pump the vdimm for to help stabilize.

y dont buy high performance RAM? more speed and stable u will gain isn't it?

i already explained earlier why i didn't get performance RAMs.

sure, you can say it's faster by having tighter timings and FSB - my question will be : how much faster? if you have the moolah and willing to pay for the boost (whether significant or not) then go ahead.

and value ram doesn't mean it's unstabled. neither does it mean it can't be OCed and still be stable. of course, this really depends on what Value Rams we're talking about. my KVR BT-D43s can OC fine but i tried other KVRs with Nanya chips and others, no such luck on OCing.

all in all it really depends on what you have, and your knowledge on how to use it. for my case, my KVR works great so i don't see a purpose of buying performance RAMs unless my goal is to OC really well and get benchmarking results that i can brag about.

Agreed... I have pushed my RAMs to tighter timings. But somehow... can't feel any difference. All I get is just the satisfaction of benchmarked results... haha.. kinda like syiok sendiri. No actual feel of the performance

it depends on wat u do... not all OC get higher benchies... the reason i don get my CPU to 3GHz cuz it's more jumpy at 3GHz than my current 2.5GHz... i've tried tightenning my timings but will be unstable... If u do light OC it memang won show any diff... if u do better OC than diff story... example: wif my rig i can play Fear wif majority medium and some high wif no AA... after OC can put 2x AA... therefore in this case i achieved better speed & quality... so it really depend on wat u do...

This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Jan 8 2007, 07:50 PM

my memory timing is 4-3-3-5-13 1T i think i havent reach the most stable and tightest timing, but is my timing really that tights? i'm using DDR2 PC4300