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ktek
post Dec 4 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 4 2016, 01:22 PM)
Thanks for your advice ktek.
I am located up North, so going KL to survey for AV receiver is too far.

By the way, I am also looking to replace my MS10i as one speaker's binding posts were previously damaged after my kid tripped the speaker (which was on stand). I have since changed to a hanging tv cabinet, and the front speakers sit on it.

I see online shop selling Q Acoustics Q2020i at rm899 per pair.
I wonder how the sound will be like if paired to Denon X1200W?
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i stay pg. similar situation as u.
occasionly ask friends and home relative in kl to help cod.

actually avr cannt really survey. as the shops only connect 1 or 2 demo display. so far the only shop has 8 demo room i went in was ipoh choy hifi. of course he put own carry brands only. mix with all different cable and spk i go back without any catch of idea lol.
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back to topic. ok qacoustic is a branding of qed cables england (fyi). so 5" wont give sufficient kick unless have a subwoofer.
other concerns of music and movie are not to worry (means quite good) more wide and energetic to ms10.

899 that online shop is s____ laser i guess. i just bought a player from him.

This post has been edited by ktek: Dec 4 2016, 03:19 PM
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post Dec 4 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 4 2016, 02:56 PM)
i stay pg. similar situation as u.
occasionly ask friends and home relative in kl to help cod.

actually avr cannt really survey. as the shops only connect 1 or 2 demo display. so far the only shop has 8 demo room i went in was ipoh choy hifi. of course he put own carry brands only. mix with all different cable and spk i go back without any catch of idea lol.
so

back to topic. ok qacoustic is a branding of qed cables england (fyi). so 5" will not give sufficient kick unless u with subwoofer.
other concerns of music and movie are not to worry (means quite good)

899 that online shop is s____ laser i guess. i just bought a player from him.
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Yes S____ Laser, how is the service?
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post Dec 4 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 4 2016, 03:19 PM)
Yes S____ Laser, how is the service?
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i not even step in the shop biggrin.gif
self research item, call to reserve. then ask friend go pay and carry only. get a bit discount
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post Dec 4 2016, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 4 2016, 02:56 PM)
i stay pg. similar situation as u.
occasionly ask friends and home relative in kl to help cod.

actually avr cannt really survey. as the shops only connect 1 or 2 demo display. so far the only shop has 8 demo room i went in was ipoh choy hifi. of course he put own carry brands only. mix with all different cable and spk i go back without any catch of idea lol.
so

back to topic. ok qacoustic is a branding of qed cables england (fyi). so 5" wont give sufficient kick unless have a subwoofer.
other concerns of music and movie are not to worry (means quite good) more wide and energetic to ms10.

899 that online shop is s____ laser i guess. i just bought a player from him.
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Yeah my subwoofer died many years ago and I didn't replace it.
If 5" woofer is smallish, how about Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 at rm999?
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post Dec 4 2016, 07:29 PM

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For movie sub which is smaller than 10" is really not recommended
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post Dec 6 2016, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 4 2016, 07:29 PM)
For movie sub which is smaller than 10" is really not recommended
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Yes for movies, I agree with it. Personally, I will go with minimum 12" (if space not an issue).

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post Dec 6 2016, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 4 2016, 07:29 PM)
For movie sub which is smaller than 10" is really not recommended
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I am actually referring to the woofers in my front LR bookshelf speakers. Many are 5" or so, but some like Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 or Diamond 10.2 are 6.5".

Yeah I kinda agree 10" subwoofer is the recommended minimum for HT. Probably those 8" subwoofers are meant for 2.1 music where your front LR have smallish woofers like 4" or so.
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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 6 2016, 11:01 AM)
I am actually referring to the woofers in my front LR bookshelf speakers. Many are 5" or so, but some like Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 or Diamond 10.2 are 6.5".

Yeah I kinda agree 10" subwoofer is the recommended minimum for HT. Probably those 8" subwoofers are meant for 2.1 music where your front LR have smallish woofers like 4" or so.
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Oh you mean speaker, than 6" is quite good for speaker
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post Dec 6 2016, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 6 2016, 11:01 AM)
I am actually referring to the woofers in my front LR bookshelf speakers. Many are 5" or so, but some like Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 or Diamond 10.2 are 6.5".

Yeah I kinda agree 10" subwoofer is the recommended minimum for HT. Probably those 8" subwoofers are meant for 2.1 music where your front LR have smallish woofers like 4" or so.
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crystal not sure. never heard the actual unit.
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post Dec 6 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 4 2016, 03:49 PM)
Yeah my subwoofer died many years ago and I didn't replace it.
If 5" woofer is smallish, how about Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 at rm999?
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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 6 2016, 11:01 AM)
I am actually referring to the woofers in my front LR bookshelf speakers. Many are 5" or so, but some like Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 or Diamond 10.2 are 6.5".

Yeah I kinda agree 10" subwoofer is the recommended minimum for HT. Probably those 8" subwoofers are meant for 2.1 music where your front LR have smallish woofers like 4" or so.
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Eh?

My Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers and Center all use 5" drivers, which by logic should be a "step down" from my previous SVS Prime and Ultra bookshelfs using 6.5" drivers, right? No.

The Ascend speakers beats the SVS speakers without a break of a sweat. And since movies generally require a sub, the low-end "loss" wasn't even apparent at all.

What I'm trying to say is, don't be so quick to dismiss a smaller driver. It's all about proper integration.
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post Dec 6 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 4 2016, 03:49 PM)
Yeah my subwoofer died many years ago and I didn't replace it.
If 5" woofer is smallish, how about Wharfedale Crystal 30.3 at rm999?
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If you come here n ask..

All the other subs are simply not HT material..
Simply save for an used SvS - even sealed is loads better .. for HT..

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post Dec 6 2016, 05:23 PM

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hi... need help/advice from all the experienced bros here. i am looking to buy a pair of bookshelf speakers to upgrade from my current pair of Taga Harmony. shortlisted 3 brands:
1) Elac Debut B6
2) Acoustic Energy 301
3) Klipsch RP-150M
mainly used for music but also occasionally for Movies. Any comment and advice is very much appreciated
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QUOTE(dushman @ Dec 6 2016, 05:23 PM)
hi... need help/advice from all the experienced bros here. i am looking to buy a pair of bookshelf speakers to upgrade from my current pair of Taga Harmony. shortlisted  3 brands:
1) Elac Debut B6
2) Acoustic Energy 301
3) Klipsch RP-150M
mainly used for music but also occasionally for Movies. Any comment and advice is very much appreciated
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Have you went and audition any of them though? All 3 speakers from your list has significantly different tonal balances.

For me personally, I've never heard the AE301 so I won't comment on it. But between the Klipsch RP150 and the ELAC DB6, I prefer the RP150s any day. The Klipsch RP150 just offers a better top-end, is more dynamic and has a better mid-bass balance to my ears vs the DB6.

As a bonus which I appreciate, the RP150s are also much more easier to drive to reference levels due to its high sensitivity (yes, yes the number provided by Klipsch is bullshit, but it's definitely a high sensitivity speaker at the end of the day), great for movies.

Also, might want to add the Q Acoustics 3020 to that list.
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post Dec 6 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 6 2016, 05:42 PM)
Have you went and audition any of them though? All 3 speakers from your list has significantly different tonal balances.

For me personally, I've never heard the AE301 so I won't comment on it. But between the Klipsch RP150 and the ELAC DB6, I prefer the RP150s any day. The Klipsch RP150 just offers a better top-end, is more dynamic and has a better mid-bass balance to my ears vs the DB6.

As a bonus which I appreciate, the RP150s are also much more easier to drive to reference levels due to its high sensitivity (yes, yes the number provided by Klipsch is bullshit, but it's definitely a high sensitivity speaker at the end of the day), great for movies.

Also, might want to add the Q Acoustics 3020 to that list.
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Thanks you for your feedback. the AE301 wasn't in my list at first but recent saw someone selling it new for cheap around the same price range as the other two.

I've not auditioned any of them as i dont live in the klang valley and the audio shops here dont carry those speakers. but since you've mentioned it, i will definitely try to drive down to amcorp this weekend to try the Q Acoustics. will let you guys know my final decision as soon as i decide

Thanks a lot bro... really appreciate it
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post Dec 6 2016, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(dushman @ Dec 6 2016, 06:17 PM)
Thanks you for your feedback. the AE301 wasn't in my list at first but recent saw someone selling it new for cheap around the same price range as the other two.

I've not auditioned any of them as i dont live in the klang valley and the audio shops here dont carry those speakers. but since you've mentioned it, i will definitely try to drive down to amcorp this weekend to try the Q Acoustics. will let you guys know my final decision as soon as i decide

Thanks a lot bro... really appreciate it
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No problem, hope you find something you like.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 6 2016, 04:30 PM)
Eh?

My Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers and Center all use 5" drivers, which by logic should be a "step down" from my previous SVS Prime and Ultra bookshelfs using 6.5" drivers, right? No.

The Ascend speakers beats the SVS speakers without a break of a sweat. And since movies generally require a sub, the low-end "loss" wasn't even apparent at all.

What I'm trying to say is, don't be so quick to dismiss a smaller driver. It's all about proper integration.
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Thanks for the advice.
I just read Q Acoustics 3020 got a top review from Whats Hifi.
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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 6 2016, 08:19 PM)
Thanks for the advice.
I just read Q Acoustics 3020 got a top review from Whats Hifi.
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I have a pair of them as my desktop speakers, mated with a Sb1000 sub. The 3020s does nothing wrong, very natural sounding speakers for the price. Sumptuous bass, nice smooth midrange and a tweeter that doesn't cut in your ears like a sawmill.

While they lack a lot of the "hi-fi" bullshit qualities (not enough air, soundstage not having enough width or depth for example), they are competent in what they were intended for : a great pair of speakers at a reasonable price.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 6 2016, 09:32 PM)
I have a pair of them as my desktop speakers, mated with a Sb1000 sub. The 3020s does nothing wrong, very natural sounding speakers for the price. Sumptuous bass, nice smooth midrange and a tweeter that doesn't cut in your ears like a sawmill.

While they lack a lot of the "hi-fi" bullshit qualities (not enough air, soundstage not having enough width or depth for example), they are competent in what they were intended for : a great pair of speakers at a reasonable price.
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Anyone tested / have Wharfedale Diamond 10.2?
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post Dec 9 2016, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(hooi @ Dec 4 2016, 01:22 PM)
Thanks for your advice ktek.
I am located up North, so going KL to survey for AV receiver is too far.

By the way, I am also looking to replace my MS10i as one speaker's binding posts were previously damaged after my kid tripped the speaker (which was on stand). I have since changed to a hanging tv cabinet, and the front speakers sit on it.

I see online shop selling Q Acoustics Q2020i at rm899 per pair.
I wonder how the sound will be like if paired to Denon X1200W?
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If only binding posts are damaged, can change the binding post terminals only.

Lazada

Even if you decide to buy new speakers, can still sell the old one after fixing it.
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post Dec 9 2016, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Dec 9 2016, 04:47 PM)
If only binding posts are damaged, can change the binding post terminals only.

Lazada

Even if you decide to buy new speakers, can still sell the old one after fixing it.
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Thanks for the advice.
Well binding post and part of the body are damaged. Not sure about fixing it.

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