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post Aug 16 2016, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(TR-8R @ Aug 16 2016, 04:04 PM)
It's RM2.5k for 3 speakers and 1 sub.  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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Try to look out for q acoustics. Very good UK brand and very decent price.
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post Aug 17 2016, 03:22 PM

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Dear all sifus,
Just wondering anybody has listen/bought to the Sony CS3 floorstanding speaker? Care for a comment?

Seems SSJBen words of wisdom has stucked on my brain now...sigh
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
Dear all sifus,
Just wondering anybody has listen/bought to the Sony CS3 floorstanding speaker? Care for a comment?

Seems SSJBen words of wisdom has stucked on my brain now...sigh
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He is the sifu, should listen to him as don't seem many people had experience with this Sony speaker
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
Dear all sifus,
Just wondering anybody has listen/bought to the Sony CS3 floorstanding speaker? Care for a comment?

Seems SSJBen words of wisdom has stucked on my brain now...sigh
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In Malaysia at least, not many floorstanders can match the Sony CS3 in price, performance and general build quality.

To me, the CS3 are very nice all-rounders. Its sound signature is more towards the neutral-warm side. They aren't super transparent and they do color the sound a little bit with some warmth. They have pretty decent bass (again, at this price you cannot expect too much) down to 55hz or so. Output is pretty solid above the 65hz mark, so rest assured that mid-bass frequencies can definitely be heard and felt.

The ironic thing is that many subs at the RM1k-1.5k range are just fart boxes, they just boom with no life, no tactility, and distort like an ass at or below the frequencies that they are supposedly able to play to. The CS3 at least wouldn't distort and while it definitely wouldn't be as loud as any of these farting boxes, at least you get some quality bass instead of just quantity.

On the midrange, I wouldn't say the CS3 does very well. I mean, vocals just don't sound or feel as natural on the CS3. Not to say they are bad, they're definitely a lot more passable than I expect, but it's missing the ingredient to truly make vocals sound like they are projecting from the air instead of the speakers. Fortunately, the midrange were never dull nor muddy, often times they come through clean and clear with a good amount of detail.

I don't like how Sony markets the so-called "super tweeter" on their speakers as a whole. I mean, other than bragging rights, what's the point of having speakers go up to 50khz? That said, the highs on the CS3 are fairly smooth and detailed. Never heard any hints of harshness, they're very easy to listen to. However they're not as dynamic and as airy as I'd want them to be, the similarly priced ELAC B5 bookshelfs does even better than the CS3, without a "super tweeter". Thankfully, imaging is pretty solid and off-axis response isn't too unbearable to listen to.

The competitor to the Sony CS3 is the once, overhyped and extremely popular Pioneer SPFS52 by Andre Jones. In comparison, the Pioneers sound boxy. Yes it has some bassy chops and on its own, is a fairly dynamic set of speakers. But it just isn't as balanced as the Sony CS3. The build quality on the Pioneer FS52 are also quite shoddy, just do a search and you'll see what I mean.


For the price, the Sony CS3 are good deals and will remain as one as long as Sony continues to sell them. ELAC Debut speakers are the next step up, as are Q Acoustics (if you want small), Wharfedale Diamonds, and KEF C series speakers.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 17 2016, 04:50 PM)
In Malaysia at least, not many floorstanders can match the Sony CS3 in price, performance and general build quality.

To me, the CS3 are very nice all-rounders. Its sound signature is more towards the neutral-warm side. They aren't super transparent and they do color the sound a little bit with some warmth. They have pretty decent bass (again, at this price you cannot expect too much) down to 55hz or so. Output is pretty solid above the 65hz mark, so rest assured that mid-bass frequencies can definitely be heard and felt.

The ironic thing is that many subs at the RM1k-1.5k range are just fart boxes, they just boom with no life, no tactility, and distort like an ass at or below the frequencies that they are supposedly able to play to. The CS3 at least wouldn't distort and while it definitely wouldn't be as loud as any of these farting boxes, at least you get some quality bass instead of just quantity.

On the midrange, I wouldn't say the CS3 does very well. I mean, vocals just don't sound or feel as natural on the CS3. Not to say they are bad, they're definitely a lot more passable than I expect, but it's missing the ingredient to truly make vocals sound like they are projecting from the air instead of the speakers. Fortunately, the midrange were never dull nor muddy, often times they come through clean and clear with a good amount of detail.

I don't like how Sony markets the so-called "super tweeter" on their speakers as a whole. I mean, other than bragging rights, what's the point of having speakers go up to 50khz? That said, the highs on the CS3 are fairly smooth and detailed. Never heard any hints of harshness, they're very easy to listen to. However they're not as dynamic and as airy as I'd want them to be, the similarly priced ELAC B5 bookshelfs does even better than the CS3, without a "super tweeter". Thankfully, imaging is pretty solid and off-axis response isn't too unbearable to listen to.

The competitor to the Sony CS3 is the once, overhyped and extremely popular Pioneer SPFS52 by Andre Jones. In comparison, the Pioneers sound boxy. Yes it has some bassy chops and on its own, is a fairly dynamic set of speakers. But it just isn't as balanced as the Sony CS3. The build quality on the Pioneer FS52 are also quite shoddy, just do a search and you'll see what I mean.
For the price, the Sony CS3 are good deals and will remain as one as long as Sony continues to sell them. ELAC Debut speakers are the next step up, as are Q Acoustics (if you want small), Wharfedale Diamonds, and KEF C series speakers.
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wow, that's quite a mouthful I say...
Believed me, u are one of those people that can make people buy things that they dont want to buy...hahahahah
thank you SSJBen, thank you for the info

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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 17 2016, 04:59 PM)
wow, that's quite a mouthful I say...
Believed me, u are one of those people that can make people buy things that they dont want to buy...hahahahah
thank you SSJBen, thank you for the info
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LOL,

You make him sound like a Whats Hi-Fi review guide.. Keke smile.gif
Better you go listen for yourself first before you plonk your money down..
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 17 2016, 04:59 PM)
wow, that's quite a mouthful I say...
Believed me, u are one of those people that can make people buy things that they dont want to buy...hahahahah
thank you SSJBen, thank you for the info
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LOL. Like dirtrun says, definitely go have a listen to the CS3 first. What I say is just my opinion on them.

I suggest going to the Curve, the Sony outlet there has a separated dedicated audio room for some decent audition of the speakers. If you can, bring your own music also (FLAC if possible).
Also understand that speakers will sound different in different rooms, so don't take the initial judgement as final until it is in your own room.
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Dont mind about the usb port. In reality usage is difficult to navigate folders, i rather use ps or player.

Network models still ok, control from app.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 17 2016, 07:31 PM)
Dont mind about the usb port. In reality usage is difficult to navigate folders, i rather use ps or player.

Network models still ok, control from app.
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I agree with this. Have not came across any receiver with easy to navigate UI for music playback.

Better to actually just get a cheap PS3 (which believe it or not, until today is still the budget king for digital audio and video) and use it as the media player instead.
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Most AVR now has android and apple apps. Is pretty nice to use. If really want cheap and good player just get the rapsberry pi.
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Hi all sifu here, does anyone have any experience on this avr Onkyo TX-SR343 5.1ch? It's a reliable model? How does it compare with Yamaha 479?
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[quote=SSJBen,Aug 17 2016, 05:19 PM]
LOL. Like dirtrun says, definitely go have a listen to the CS3 first. What I say is just my opinion on them.

I suggest going to the Curve, the Sony outlet there has a separated dedicated audio room for some decent audition of the speakers. If you can, bring your own music also (FLAC if possible).
Also understand that speakers will sound different in different rooms, so don't take the initial judgement as final until it is in your own room.
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I have read the reviews on these cs3, it is that good!!
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QUOTE(kokboon04 @ Aug 17 2016, 09:46 PM)
Hi all sifu here, does anyone have any experience on this avr Onkyo TX-SR343 5.1ch? It's a reliable model? How does it compare with Yamaha 479?
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not sure about this particular. u can see onkyo reliability report from members here at least 1 case every month
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QUOTE(kokboon04 @ Aug 17 2016, 09:46 PM)
Hi all sifu here, does anyone have any experience on this avr Onkyo TX-SR343 5.1ch? It's a reliable model? How does it compare with Yamaha 479?
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i'd go with yammy 479
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hi guys,
i thought rx v379 doesn't have usb?? why there is a usb in front???
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 18 2016, 04:12 PM)
hi guys, 
i thought  rx v379 doesn't have usb??  why there is a usb in front???
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It doesn't.

You are probably mistaking the 379 for the 479/579.
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Thanks for the info. Do noted that Onkyo used to have HDMI issues on older model.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 18 2016, 04:43 PM)
It doesn't.

You are probably mistaking the 379 for the 479/579.
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no ben i just bought it!! it has usb input!!! bought from style audio in cheras
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is this v379 really v379? one more thing this unit is missing the ypao mic. just call the shop he says to come back and get it. why laa i didnt open the box in first place...
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QUOTE(rizal77 @ Aug 18 2016, 04:56 PM)
no ben  i just bought it!!  it has usb input!!!  bought from style audio in cheras
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My mistake entirely.

The Asia/EU models do indeed have USB input, where as the US models do not.

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