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rizal77
post Aug 16 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 16 2016, 03:18 PM)
Some pretty good deals there.

For receivers:
1) Entry-level wise, the Yamaha RX-v379 at RM1099 is pretty much a no brainer. I'll drive home the point again, this is the best entry-level receiver on the market currently. No other receiver at this price point would be as reliable as the v379 (which consequently has the highest amount of sales worldwide for a 2015 receiver).

2) For a more mid-range budget, RM2k for the Yamaha v679 is another solid choice. Understand that the overpriced A750 is basically just a re-named v679 with an additional fifth foot. Don't fall for the marketing bs.

3) Denon X5200w while is a little old in the tooth now with no DTSX support, it is still a very good receiver at RM4k. However the Yamaha RX-A1050 is RM100 cheaper with DTS:X support, but limited to only 7 channels processing while the x5200w has 9. I honestly think at the sub-RM4k bracket, one should just focus on a solid no-frills 7.1 (or .2) setup. Don't cheap out on ground layer speakers just because you want height speakers.
For speakers:
...Unfortunately, nothing really catches my eye except the Wharfedale Jades. Won't say they are absolute bang-for-buck kings, but they're decently priced I'd say. Wharfedale usually have a very warm signature sound, which I don't really like for HT usage. The Jades are still warm speakers by design, but they're more towards the neutral side in comparison to their other line-ups (especially the popular Diamonds).

As such, I'd feel that the Wharfedale Jades are nice and fun sounding speakers for movies and games, while still having the intimacy when it comes to music. Worth a listen definitely.
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Dean Ben,
How do I play my flac file stored in a hard disk to this Yamaha amplifier? What I know is , this V379 model doesn't have usb input right?
If other models have USB input, we can easily connect a harddisk and play the music files, right?

thank you in advance.
rizal77
post Aug 16 2016, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 16 2016, 03:33 PM)
Well, you can't, not directly at least. The v379 has no networking features, so DLNA or streaming off your local network is not possible.
Yes you are correct, there is no USB inputs either (which is dumb, I know) so local storage playback is not possible as well.

Of course, the work-around is that you can just connect a source with a HDMI/optical and play your music that way.

Other models with USB input can indeed play music files off a local storage device.
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that is what really baffles me...
usb input is one features that I like. I can straight away play all my flac collection directly by connecting my 1tb harddisk.

Instead now I have to open another player, like ps4 or media player just to play my music...right???

So meaning for V379 amp, I need to used another player just to play music files. Am I correct??

thank you again.
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 16 2016, 03:40 PM)
Yes that is correct.
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Dear Ben,
So if were to get a Yamaha Amp with USB input, which is the next logical model? my budget is tight as well as I have fixed my eyes on v379....huhuhu

thank you Ben.
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post Aug 16 2016, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 16 2016, 03:59 PM)
Either the v479 (RM1749) or v481 (RM1949). However, both models are so close in price to the v679 that I suggest just going for the v679 instead.

If you dare to roll the dice, the Pioneer VSX-924k at RM1499 has USB playback support for music. Just know that the Pioneer VSX line has been very shabby in the last few years, you either get a unit that doesn't break or one that just doesn't work for no logical reason. Otherwise the VSX-924 is an okay-ish AVR.
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But why V679 doesn't get rave quite a good reviews as its other cheaper siblings? huhuhu
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post Aug 17 2016, 03:22 PM

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Dear all sifus,
Just wondering anybody has listen/bought to the Sony CS3 floorstanding speaker? Care for a comment?

Seems SSJBen words of wisdom has stucked on my brain now...sigh
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post Aug 17 2016, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 17 2016, 04:50 PM)
In Malaysia at least, not many floorstanders can match the Sony CS3 in price, performance and general build quality.

To me, the CS3 are very nice all-rounders. Its sound signature is more towards the neutral-warm side. They aren't super transparent and they do color the sound a little bit with some warmth. They have pretty decent bass (again, at this price you cannot expect too much) down to 55hz or so. Output is pretty solid above the 65hz mark, so rest assured that mid-bass frequencies can definitely be heard and felt.

The ironic thing is that many subs at the RM1k-1.5k range are just fart boxes, they just boom with no life, no tactility, and distort like an ass at or below the frequencies that they are supposedly able to play to. The CS3 at least wouldn't distort and while it definitely wouldn't be as loud as any of these farting boxes, at least you get some quality bass instead of just quantity.

On the midrange, I wouldn't say the CS3 does very well. I mean, vocals just don't sound or feel as natural on the CS3. Not to say they are bad, they're definitely a lot more passable than I expect, but it's missing the ingredient to truly make vocals sound like they are projecting from the air instead of the speakers. Fortunately, the midrange were never dull nor muddy, often times they come through clean and clear with a good amount of detail.

I don't like how Sony markets the so-called "super tweeter" on their speakers as a whole. I mean, other than bragging rights, what's the point of having speakers go up to 50khz? That said, the highs on the CS3 are fairly smooth and detailed. Never heard any hints of harshness, they're very easy to listen to. However they're not as dynamic and as airy as I'd want them to be, the similarly priced ELAC B5 bookshelfs does even better than the CS3, without a "super tweeter". Thankfully, imaging is pretty solid and off-axis response isn't too unbearable to listen to.

The competitor to the Sony CS3 is the once, overhyped and extremely popular Pioneer SPFS52 by Andre Jones. In comparison, the Pioneers sound boxy. Yes it has some bassy chops and on its own, is a fairly dynamic set of speakers. But it just isn't as balanced as the Sony CS3. The build quality on the Pioneer FS52 are also quite shoddy, just do a search and you'll see what I mean.
For the price, the Sony CS3 are good deals and will remain as one as long as Sony continues to sell them. ELAC Debut speakers are the next step up, as are Q Acoustics (if you want small), Wharfedale Diamonds, and KEF C series speakers.
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wow, that's quite a mouthful I say...
Believed me, u are one of those people that can make people buy things that they dont want to buy...hahahahah
thank you SSJBen, thank you for the info

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post Aug 18 2016, 11:13 AM

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[quote=SSJBen,Aug 17 2016, 05:19 PM]
LOL. Like dirtrun says, definitely go have a listen to the CS3 first. What I say is just my opinion on them.

I suggest going to the Curve, the Sony outlet there has a separated dedicated audio room for some decent audition of the speakers. If you can, bring your own music also (FLAC if possible).
Also understand that speakers will sound different in different rooms, so don't take the initial judgement as final until it is in your own room.
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I have read the reviews on these cs3, it is that good!!
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post Aug 18 2016, 04:12 PM

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hi guys,
i thought rx v379 doesn't have usb?? why there is a usb in front???
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post Aug 18 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 18 2016, 04:43 PM)
It doesn't.

You are probably mistaking the 379 for the 479/579.
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no ben i just bought it!! it has usb input!!! bought from style audio in cheras
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post Aug 18 2016, 05:04 PM

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is this v379 really v379? one more thing this unit is missing the ypao mic. just call the shop he says to come back and get it. why laa i didnt open the box in first place...
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post Aug 18 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 18 2016, 05:08 PM)
My mistake entirely.

The Asia/EU models do indeed have USB input, where as the US models do not.
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waaa i thought my model got mixed up or something..
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post Aug 19 2016, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Aug 19 2016, 02:47 AM)
You don't mind to tell us how much you bought it or do you?  wub.gif

Latest Pricing

YAMAHA RX-V379 5.1CH AV RECEIVER RM 1,399.00 (Desa Home Theatre Promotion - RM1099) 
YAMAHA RX-V381 5.1CH AV RECEIVER - RM 1,599.00

YAMAHA RX-V479 5.1CH AV RECEIVER - RM 1,799.00 
YAMAHA RX-V481 5.1CH AV RECEIVER - RM 1,999.00

YAMAHA RX-V579 7.2 CH AV RECEIVER - RM 
YAMAHA RX-V581 7.2 CH AV RECEIVER - RM 

YAMAHA RX-V679 7.2CH AV RECEIVER - RM
YAMAHA RX-V681 7.2CH AV RECEIVER - RM 2,699.00

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guys!!
dont ever go to desa home theater!!
they advertise those yamaha amplifier but when u reached there, no stock. this happen to me.

the point is, i did call them first in the early morning to confirm got stock or not on the particular model n they said yes.

but once u reached there they said no stock... i was clealy being played by DESA HOME THEATER

last time i will go there... bye bye

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post Aug 20 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(myxery @ Aug 19 2016, 05:31 PM)
bought my Sony W70C and rx-v377 from them in LYP. Previously bought Onkyo SR308 from them also.
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what im saying is... just becarefull of those too good to be true sales by desa home theater.. if u know what i mean.
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post Aug 22 2016, 08:55 AM

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Morning guys,
If I want to buy Q Acoustics speakers, where should I go?

People say WilayahAV in subang, is it ok ?

Thank guys!!
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post Aug 23 2016, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 23 2016, 06:38 AM)
Acoustic system at amcorp mall
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thanks bro
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post Aug 23 2016, 08:59 AM

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if you were given an options, which one do you guys pick?

Q acoustic 3020 or ELAC Debut B6?

Please give some insight/real life experience on these bookshelf speakers...
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post Aug 23 2016, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(cypaq @ Aug 23 2016, 11:05 AM)
Agree with Sonerin, that Q acoustic 3020 is smooth sounding. It however has less bass compared to Debut B6. Elac Debut B6 has better bass and PRaT but doesn't sound as smooth. Which speaker you like is very dependent on the type of music you listen to. You can't really go wrong with either model. It's all down to personal preference.

The last time I was at Acoustique System (Amcorp Mall), they have both the 3020 and B6 for evaluation.
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thank you sir!! will give acoustic system a call for an audition..
err when was the last time by the way ??

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post Aug 23 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 23 2016, 04:08 PM)
IMO, the Elac Debut B5/B6 are more suited for HT usage though vs the QA 3020. Its tweeters are just a little more broader, airier, and overall just more dynamic. The void between the mid-bass of 80-120hz (where generally the crossover is set at) is also filled much better by the Elac B6, which makes for better sub integration.

That said, if size is an issue the QA3020 is a much better pick.
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Will have a listen later, thanks ben for the input!!
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post Aug 24 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 23 2016, 06:55 PM)
Mr Lim from acoustic system is very friendly guy. Listen to it and ask him for advice. He is very experience in this business
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thank you bro, appreciate it!!!
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post Aug 25 2016, 08:36 AM

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I just notice that my rx v379 cannot play flac files directly!!!
nooooooooooooooo...

By the way, met Mr Lim. Great guy...thinking of buying next budget subwoofer after the budget elac B6. Any recommendation guy to accompanied the B6?

Appreciate your input guys!!

thank you in advance

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