LOL. Guess so. The HK Logic 7 helps...a bit

I am setting up this HT package for a living room area (not dedicated HT room). therefore the setup will be compromized in terms of HT effects. the living room is around 22ft x 27ft long x 11ft height. Checked the AV setup that the rear presence speakers can be substituted to front presence as per attach. My question is would this setup be suffice for a living room setup or I should go the extra mile and pull the speaker cable to have the rear 2 channel SR and SL.

Since my AV is capable of DTS:X, will it be worthwhile to go for another 2 ceiling speaker ?

This post has been edited by ccschua: Apr 20 2016, 11:22 AM


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Wait, so you're saying you want to do a 7.1 setup buy instead of surround back left + right, you want to make them function as front presence L/R instead?

So technically then you're having a 5.x.2 setup?
If so, yes that works.

DTS:X is still a novelty now. It may be worthwhile when there are more content with it, but for now I think a solid 7 channel setup with proper placement is more important. Get your basics right first, do everything else second.

It would be great to get Yamaha RX V679 below RM2K this year. I will wait for coming Hari Raya sales or October sales.

Yamaha 7.2 ch RX-V679 Network AV receiver

7.2-channel network AV receiver that features HDMI 2.0a for 4K Ultra HD video upscaling, HDCP 2.2 and high dynamic range (HDR) along with advanced multi-zone speaker configurations powered by high quality discrete amp circuitry. Conveniently access music wirelessly with Bluetooth® from your mobile devices or utilize Wi-Fi to stream online music services and high-resolution audio files. Now with MusicCast, this device can be expanded to deliver wireless multiroom audio playback, all controlled by a simple app.

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MusicCast wireless multiroom audio support
Bluetooth® for wireless music streaming and Compressed Music Enhancer for Bluetooth
Built-in Wi-Fi and Wireless Direct
AirPlay®, Pandora®, Rhapsody®, Spotify®, SiriusXM™ music streaming service and AV Controller App
DSD 2.8 MHz / 5.6 MHz, FLAC / WAV / AIFF 192 kHz / 24-bit, Apple® Lossless 96 kHz / 24-bit playback
YPAO™ - Reflected Sound Control for automatic speaker setup
YPAO™ Volume to ensure natural sounds even at low volume
Virtual Surround Back Speaker for playing 7.2-channel content with a 5.1-channel system
Zone 2 audio with Party Mode
Dialogue Lift and Dialogue Volume
HDMI 2.0a: 4K Ultra HD Full Support with 4K60p, HDCP2.2, HDR* Video and BT.2020 pass-through
7.2-channel surround sound

Klipsch Reference Premiere 7.2 Surround Sound System - Review

Klipsch is well known for their HT speakers

Perhaps. But do weigh out what you need. The V679 doesn't have pre-outs which is my biggest gripe about it, so buying it would basically mean you're stuck with it forever (unless you sell and get higher-end amp) with no path to add additional power amps in the future.
If all you're ever doing is 5.1, the 679 is a pretty decent choice for most midrange-market speakers.

+1 in avr/amp,price does matter get the highest range you can afford..

Thanks Ben. I will consider it around BIG SALES. Of course if I can get a DOLBY ATMOS avr for a good bargain, better still. I can confirmed that I will definitely choose Yamaha AVR.

As for speakers, still on the crossroad whether to get a wireless or wired speakers and which brand.

This post has been edited by jovigrunge: Apr 27 2016, 09:01 PM

Spot on bad2928. I will definitely post in this thread before I make an buying move!

Please don't get entry level Dolby Atmos AVRs. They usually come in a 5.1.2 config, which really only works well in small-medium rooms even with 6" drivers in-ceiling speakers. Not to mention these entry-level AVRs has pretty subpar amp sections to begin with, connecting so many speakers is simply crippling your audio performance unless you like to listen at -30db under reference, 3 feet away from your LCRs.

You want to do Atmos, do it properly. Aim for 5.2.4 if 7.2.4 isn't possible. If you can't do either, stick to good ol' 7.2 setup which is extremely immersive if done right.

And please, if you do Atmos, don't buy into those ceiling reflecting speakers bullshit.

As for wireless or wired speakers, I personally will always go wired. Wireless speakers are powered by their puny batteries, of which needs to be designed to "last longer", so the amount of voltage + wattage it supplies to the driver(s)/tweeter will be very limited hence even if the speaker's capability is decent, it can't do justice. Not only that, wireless speakers will mean that if in the event of the battery going dead, you have no choice but to send it back to the manufacturer for replacement. Go wired, plan out your room, look where to run and conceal cables.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Apr 27 2016, 10:26 PM

Thanks again Ben. I'll definitely will heed your wise advise. I don't plan to do wall mount as for the tv. I have bought a 6 feet tv cabinet in advance. This time instead of going for satellite speakers, I think I'll go for bookshelf speakers.

Bookshelf is good choice

What about the surround? If the front and surround is full range and have different frequency respond how do you set the crossover? Or you only target the front speakers?

Higher-end receivers has individual crossovers for each channel. You generally don't want the surround to be set to large even if you have big bookshelfs/bipoles as surrounds in the event that you set your fronts to 'Large'.

But once again, understand that setting the speakers to "Large" could mean taxing your receiver's amp section near to its max (depending on the speakers, SPL and distance). Will it cause damage? Probably not because the OVP will just kick in. But don't be surprised to suddenly hear distortion, dynamics being compressed (especially the surrounds and center channels) and then you may start to hear clipping.

Doesn't apply to every scenario of course, but generally there's a reason why people who run their L/R as large (assuming they're decent towers) have at least a dedicated power amp for them. Really high-end users have dedicated monoblocks for the stereo stage, but that's getting into the >RM30k stuff (or more).

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Apr 28 2016, 05:40 PM

$5500 USD, very cheap for reference series plus 2 subwoofers. Anybody use this before?

LOL..

RM20k is cheep...
But seriously... I hvnt got it but rvws dont actually like klpsch subs..


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PS :
To add if u list spkrs as large n full range oso means u r taxing ur avr's amps in tat it has to supply pwr to drv ur low end instead of letting LFE be handled by itw own power sourced active sub - note tat even flagship avrs are not powerhouses in any rvw - they only look gud on paper..

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Apr 28 2016, 04:29 PM

Family in the US has the RF-52 series.
I'll say this much; the horn tweeters aren't for everyone. I'm fine with it, my wife didn't like it. Some family members like it, some needed to walk out of the room.

I like the Klipsch RF series of speakers, I think they're pretty nice, speakers wise. Their main downside are their rather lifeless subs IMO, it can rumble yes, but it lacks the tactility and punch.

Don't have a huge experience with Klipsch and I wouldn't mind having their speakers one day either, but definitely with a sub from Hsu Research or SVS.