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Yveatel
post Sep 18 2022, 02:28 PM

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I am sorry to see this. Honestly, while I am having fun with my family, sex really goes down hills. My wife never touch me if I initiate. Even I did initiate, she hardly responds. Perhaps too tired with two kids now. But I did taking care of the kids and send the kids to bed. In the end, it is always men's fault for looking for other relieve method.
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post Sep 19 2022, 07:21 PM

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i've divorced & separated with wife over 5 years
didnt get into any new relationship ever since
sexual needs, i just "Mr DIY"
didnt spend money on this part too
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post Oct 7 2022, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(hydroboy87 @ Sep 9 2022, 04:51 PM)
I am more than happy to hear from women, especially wives who have experienced something similar. I get you and I agree. As I have mentioned, I have tried all of the above. We have not gone on a date in like 4 years. I have tried all kinds of things. The most we have done is lunch during workdays. Which is not romantic at all...And we are unable to leave our son anywhere as we do not have any support system. Both of our parents/inlaws are not in KL/Sel - so it has been the both of us all these while. No one to jaga our son over night. It is such a painful situation.

I have also lost count of the times I have spoken to her. The latest was like two weeks ago. I am with the hope she'd initiate something. Two weeks - nothing. And I have been quite silent and sulking. Still, she is like not bothered or just avoiding.

I am very sure , many men are going through this.
I agree, and I have been doing a lot of reading on this topic lately. The most common explanation is hormonal issue and the changes a woman goes through. But what I cannot accept is that, I am being a good husband (again not expecting brownie points here), and I have expressed many times to her that she is very attractive and I yearn for her. Recently I even suggested, let's get an air bnb during the day since baby sitter can only cover during the day time, get a nice place. Spend the day the there, and let me take some sexy photos of you. My intention is to make her feel sexy again... but again, no reaction.
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Here's a suggestion...make yourself looks sexy instead, go to gym, build a six pack, get groom, and wear shorts around home to arouse her
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post Oct 7 2022, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Nov 24 2021, 08:04 AM)
Hi guys

Been married since feb 2019, we(well me actually) finally decided to want to have kids of our own.
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Replying to my own old account...cant retrieve back...

Now we are expecting our first boy...22 weeks now
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post Oct 11 2022, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Oct 7 2022, 07:43 PM)
Replying to my own old account...cant retrieve back...

Now we are expecting our first boy...22 weeks now
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Congrats! It gonna be sleepless night awaiting you!
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post Oct 12 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(hydroboy87 @ Sep 9 2022, 10:52 AM)
It is me again guys. I previously shared the challenges I was going through with my wife. And sadly, things are not much different this year. Personally I have ramped up my responsibilities in making sure I help out more with house work. However, sex is life is still non-existent. And to make it worse, she doesn't even touch me sexually, and there's absolutely no intimacy whatsoever. We do not have and deep conversations anymore. We are not going out. Nothing. No dirty talk, no jokes

And each time I ask her, she just has a defensive wall, citing tiredness, busy with work. I mean, who is not busy with work. And I do not intend to compare our workloads. Anyway, she does not initiate anything. I am actually very frustrated with all these, and I am not sure what else to. I have slowly began to understand what some men end up violating the marriage rule. We signed up for monogamy. But not for celibacy.

Our son is older now, and it is easier to manage him on our own. Although we are still sending him to the baby-sitter on the weekdays. Despite all these, she still has no mood for any husband and wife time. Next year, we will be sending our son to nursery. I can already forsee the other excuses that may come.

What should I do? Go to therapy and waste money? By the way, we're in our mid 30s, and our issues began right after having our son - only child, and wife does not want another one sad.gif 

We've been together since we were teenagers. I can also confirm there's no adultery involved as both of us are working from home and hardly go out.

I really feel like I am going through some kinda of mental torture at the moment. There have been nights were I have cried to bed thinking about this. Like, why do I deserve this? It gets very lonely considering that she is the one person I love with all my heart. But deeply inside, I know I cannot live like this. I am getting older, and I do not wish to waste my life by not receiving any love from my spouse.  And the thought of separating is too painful because I do not wish to go through hell, and put my son through hell. He is too young, and innocent.

Any other dads out there who have been through this before? I will really appreciate if you guys could advise me. It's so lonely and I don't know who to talk to. I did try asking some female colleagues previously, without shedding much detail, and they just shoved it aside. Of course, siding a fellow woman. I am not sure if men even talk about this openly.

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The bolded part could be root the cause. How open is she to talk about it or she just sweep it under the carpet / avoid the discussion ?

I faced the same life resistance during my mid 30s as well. I talked about it with my wife, it is the psychology fear of unplanned pregnancy - condom or morning after pill is out of tolerance. That time, we no longer want any more kids. I made a decisive decision, if that fear is the cause of the life resistance, I'll remove the cause of the fear. I took 2 days off, went for the vasectomy at KPJ, the frequency of intimacy are coming back, in fact it is better now. My wife seems to enjoy the sex now without the fear of pregnancy.

That is for my case but not all case is the same. If it is not this issue but other issue, don't go for vasectomy blindly.

*Also, don't talk about the marriage issue with the female colleagues, you will invite unnecessary "tribulation" to your marriage.

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post Oct 13 2022, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 11 2022, 04:58 PM)
Congrats! It gonna be sleepless night awaiting you!
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So negative. Enjoy them they grow up very fast. take a lot of picture and video.
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post Oct 15 2022, 08:50 AM

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I love taking pictures of kids.
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post Oct 28 2022, 09:20 PM

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been reading and getting good info from you guys....expecting my first....10 weeks d

but my wife been looking into confinement centers and they all kasi marketing talk etc etc.....must book this month ada promo 2k / 3k etc etc

i think i can wait out until 1-2 months before deciding which center is good.....what do you guys think??


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post Nov 2 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(shinn911 @ Oct 28 2022, 09:20 PM)
been reading and getting good info from you guys....expecting my first....10 weeks d

but my wife been looking into confinement centers and they all kasi marketing talk etc etc.....must book this month ada promo 2k / 3k etc etc

i think i can wait out until 1-2 months before deciding which center is good.....what do you guys think??
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if book first can get full refund within certain of period then why not just to get the discount but....

u have to take consideration that the center also could be full, so when u really decide to go, maybe they no more slot for you also.

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post Nov 8 2022, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(hydroboy87 @ Sep 9 2022, 11:17 AM)
Haihz....It kinda pisses me off that women can just sweep this under the carpet. And when things go south, blame the men.

Thank you brother. I will check out Opt 1 for now. I am not gonna lie, Opt 2 has crept up into my head many, many times but I am quite reluctant. But I am not looking to pay to 'release' which is of course the easiest option. I just want love and care. Also, I am not I judging anyone. I perfectly understand why many man go for Opt 2.
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If you opt for affair please be honest and tell her beforehand.
At least there's a time frame to let her think about what's wrong between you 2. Since she can't communicate with you, giving her the time to think about your request.

Not all perempuan the same. It also has alot to do with:

1) Do you only care to satisfy yourself on the bed rather than her 99% of the time?
2) Do u ever had a fling outside long ago before this and you rejected your wife needs on bed 99% of the time?
3) The hormone can be fix but it also has to do with daily dietary, fast food .....etc

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I need advise to be a father. I want to have PIV with my wife but my p*nis does not get hard enough when she is very simulated. Which forum can I use in lowyat to discuss more?
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post Nov 21 2022, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(ericjoe @ Nov 21 2022, 04:42 AM)
I need advise to be a father. I want to have PIV with my wife but my p*nis does not get hard enough when she is very simulated. Which forum can I use in lowyat to discuss more?
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on health perspective, there's possibility you may have high blood pressure or blood circulation related illness as such health problems can cause decrease efficiency of your banana

on other hand, maybe you're very stressful during the happy session with your wife, try to think of some ways to release some stress first the day before

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Yveatel
post Nov 21 2022, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(ericjoe @ Nov 21 2022, 04:42 AM)
I need advise to be a father. I want to have PIV with my wife but my p*nis does not get hard enough when she is very simulated. Which forum can I use in lowyat to discuss more?
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Do you check with doctor? is it medical issue?
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post Dec 15 2022, 02:00 PM

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need help from the fathers here....especially chinese fathers

how to choose baby chinese name....not sure where to start....cant ask my parents coz they unable to assist.
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post Dec 15 2022, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(shinn911 @ Dec 15 2022, 02:00 PM)
need help from the fathers here....especially chinese fathers

how to choose baby chinese name....not sure where to start....cant ask my parents coz they unable to assist.
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Boy or girl?
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post Dec 15 2022, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(shinn911 @ Dec 15 2022, 02:00 PM)
need help from the fathers here....especially chinese fathers

how to choose baby chinese name....not sure where to start....cant ask my parents coz they unable to assist.
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did any of your elders say the newborn name must include certain specific chinese characters?
did any elders say the newborn name must contain certain specific meanings?
did they asked to choose names base on the "eight numbers of birth 生辰八字" ?
how / what type of person would you & wife want your baby to grow up become?
have you thought of going temple to ask "sifu" for opinions / suggestions if you're Buddhist?
or you can ask opinions of pastor from your church if you're christian?

for my kids, our family have the so call "family tree book 族谱", we give names to our newborn following the specific chinese characters mentioned in the book
at the same time we also refer to the suggested suitable characters according to the eight numbers of birth

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post Dec 17 2022, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(shinn911 @ Dec 15 2022, 02:00 PM)
need help from the fathers here....especially chinese fathers

how to choose baby chinese name....not sure where to start....cant ask my parents coz they unable to assist.
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Ask your parents for a middle character and think for yourself for the last character.

Then choose a meaningful combination.
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post Dec 17 2022, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Dec 15 2022, 03:36 PM)
did any of your elders say the newborn name must include certain specific chinese characters?
did any elders say the newborn name must contain certain specific meanings?
did they asked to choose names base on the "eight numbers of birth 生辰八字"  ?
how / what type of person would you & wife want your baby to grow up become?
have you thought of going temple to ask "sifu" for opinions / suggestions if you're Buddhist?
or you can ask opinions of pastor from your church if you're christian?

for my kids, our family have the so call "family tree book 族谱", we give names to our newborn following the specific chinese characters mentioned in the book
at the same time we also refer to the suggested suitable characters according to the eight numbers of birth
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Oh... my dad did this too...

Basically my mom gave me a middle character which I just accept anyway since I'm banana... then my dad go those calculate eight numbers of birth and see what is lacking then I simply choose one character which contain the missing elements like mu, jin, etc.

Like my elder son, dad say lacking mu so I select quan... second son missing jin, so I select xin
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QUOTE(@lice~~ @ Sep 9 2022, 03:49 PM)
Can women comment on this thread?  tongue.gif  Anyway as a wife + mother, I understand you and your wife's situation. Maybe you need to sit her down and talk like adult and try to understand her problems. Let her talk and you don't interrupt. Then both of you come out with the solutions for the those issues. Remember compromise.

If the above matter still don't work then both you need to get sometime for a date, only 2 of you. Go for movies, dinner, shopping or a night of stay out maybe. Try to have quality time together. Normally after we have the kids we have less quality time together.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Sep 9 2022, 04:16 PM)
We are not you. We do not know the journey you two being through together.

But what I can know/understand is a few paragraphs you wrote above. I understand you still love your wife. But what I think is. Now you can try treat your wife as a friend or partner for now. But at the same time, you are trying to go after her to get your attention to be your girlfriend. She maybe need some sort of fresh spark that you both doing when you were young.

I'm suggesting some idea/solution. It may not work, but it worth to try. I do read a lot of women no longer feel love/sex life interest toward their husband after giving birth on Facebook mom group. Is not their fault, is because of hormone issues.
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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Sep 12 2022, 10:41 AM)
i notice from your replies, you mentioned a lot on intimacy/sexual topic.
maybe this is the main reason she's avoiding you, she could be thinking that you only wanna have sex & nothing else, could be the way you talk / do / act / expression.
some women after giving birth, she will feel her private part is not attractive anymore or became ugly, this feeling has huge impact on her self-esteem, so in the end causing her to change & become what she is today.

current condition she doesnt wanna talk / speak to you directly, you can use other methods of communication.
whatsapp messages (typing not voice record), emails, actual hand writing letters.
but avoid mention anything which can possibly lead to thinking of intimacy/sexual topic.
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QUOTE(@lice~~ @ Sep 12 2022, 02:41 PM)
I agree with this part. You let us feel that we women only your sex slave and nothing else.

Try take thing naturally, like go for dating first eg movie + lunch, some massage and follow the flow. Don't make it like you purposely set it up just for that session - like you mentioned book air bnb and take sexy photos  doh.gif
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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ Sep 14 2022, 10:10 AM)
do you know any of her friends?
or some of her BFF?

maybe you can ask them for some advice or ask them to help with the talking?
did you discussed this issue with her parents or her siblings?
since she clearly doesnt give you any chance of communications, you have to make the talk with her closest relatives & friends
ask those people to do the communications for you
anything you wanna convey to your wife, let those people do the job for you
until one day she opens up to you then you can slowly talk with her directly
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To everyone who heard me, and responded to me - a million thanks. I did not have any outlet to share my feelings. Here's an update for everyone.

Things have drastically improved. I guess my patience, and persistence paid off. I feel like I have gotten back the women I loved, and married after almost 5 years. What changed?

I guess my wife finally realised that I was drained, and I am putting in a lot of effort in not only raising our child, but also with the house chores, and in providing for the family. And she was being cold for selfish reasons. She certainly took her time, and we did have a talk - like a proper talk where she finally opened up. The combination of being a career driven women, and then having a child did not sit well with her the last couple of years. However, she has come to realise that she is not only punishing herself, but also those around her.

And of course, I have been putting in more effort than before in being a husband and father. It was not a smooth journey, but it is slowly healing. Our intimacy is there and I appreciate each moment I spend with here, although it is not frequent. I have come to terms that it may not be ideal, but I am glad, and happy to have my wife back, and my family together.

The thing I learned is that, being silent, and not talking nor sharing things nor seeking help makes things worse. My wife has her regrets, but boy are we glad we stuck together. End of the day, child is our priority.

Not sure how many daddies/men have been through this, or going through this. But if you are, just talk to your fellow brothers, siblings, or trusted ones. Do not suffer alone. Society sucks as it says men should not whine, complain or cry. Seriously, screw them. Not all men are a-holes, and these good bros really need a shoulder to lean on at times.

Again, thanks to all who listened, and responded. I truly appreciate your feedback.


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